Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-12-02 Thread Michael Peel

On 1 Dec 2013, at 03:01, Michael Maggs mich...@maggs.name wrote:

 
 On 30 Nov 2013, at 22:01, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com 
 wrote:
 
 Actually, I despair of the entire thread. There is all of £20 at stake here. 
 There is every reason to economise on staff time, on this scale. The waste 
 of volunteer time and good will that has been generated is unconscionable. 
 The object of the exercise has been completely forgotten. The objects of the 
 charity hardly enter.
 
 Charles
 
 Absolutely. After 43 emails all we have learned that the mailing list is not 
 a remotely efficient way of deciding how the charity should spend £20.  The 
 staff have plenty to go on, and they should be perfectly able to move ahead 
 now without need for any further commentary.  

I disagree with the assertion that this thread has just been discussing an 
amount of £20. That could have been true if it was a thread focused on a single 
prize, but instead this has been talking about the general issue. Depending on 
how many vouchers WMUK purchases for competition prizes over the coming years, 
then that could easily amount to well in excess of £1,000. There’s also the 
intangible financial benefits from competition advertising, which is difficult 
to quantify. I think it’s useful to see the range of viewpoints here, and if 
there are people subscribed that have different viewpoints than those raised 
here then they shouldn’t feel forbidden from airing them here if they want to.

Thanks,
MIke
(Again, from my work address due to technical issues, but this is my personal 
viewpoint.)


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Amazon Tax avoidance

2013-12-02 Thread Charles Matthews
On 2 December 2013 18:59, Michael Peel michael.p...@manchester.ac.ukwrote:


  I think it’s useful to see the range of viewpoints here, and if there are
 people subscribed that have different viewpoints than those raised here
 then they shouldn’t feel forbidden from airing them here if they want to.


Remarkably naive view of DNFTT, that. And you were asked politely not to.

OK then, I have a viewpoint that the suggestion that people in an
international competition should be asked to nominate what gift voucher for
£10 they would like, rather than be told (your choice is good) is plain
silly. One winner may want a voucher for a department store in Belize City,
the other one want something denominated in Australian dollars. Exactly how
much correspondence and faffing around do you want to dump on the office?

Charles
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