[Wikimediauk-l] Joseph's interview on Radio 4
You can hear Joseph's interview on Friday's PM news programme at http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0418x6d, skip to 33 minutes in to the programme. It is 4 minutes long. This was after a request from the BBC for someone to talk to about long running disputes on the English Wikipedia. Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photographers needed for photography at the Tank Museum in Dorset
Thanks Geni, Would you mind adding those suggestions to the wishlisthttps://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Tank_Museum_2014#Requested_photographson wiki, this mailing list is much better at making suggestions for photos that could be taken at that museum, and the mailing I did to Wiki Loves Monuments participants has been more fruitful at recruiting photographers who are going to go there. Including one who has assured me he will work from that list. I now have a number of requests to make of that museum covering everything from lighting and moving the tanks around to having a ROV fly round in their building. But as I have several photographers who have now taken a third of the tickets, I think it would be best to wait until we can point to some photos in use before I ask for what I suspect would be out of hours access. . Jonathan Cardy GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives Museums) Organiser/Trefnydd GLAM (Galeriau, Llyfrgelloedd, Archifdai a llawer Mwy!) Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. Press Enter to send your message. On 26 April 2014 20:39, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: Long email is long. While expanding commons is a worthy goal the museum is likely to want pics that make it into Wikipedia articles. The main challenge with photographing vehicles tends to be their size. Getting even lighting over an object that big is tricky (and tanks tend to be large even for vehicles). Studio set-ups use a bunch of big lights. Wikipedians tend to use outdoor shots (the soft light of dawn/ evening or light overcast during the day generally produces he best results). Indoors lighting tends to be worse with point sources resulting in uneven illumination. The shear size of vehicles means you can't generally light the whole things from an onboard flash. There is a significant falloff at a greater distance. Better results can be obtained with off camera flashes but this requires multiple people and someone experienced with off camera flash. Still it might be worth seeing if a team can be put together. We must have someone who knows their way around flash photography. In terms of what can usefully be photographed offer the following list. In addition photos of details (suspension, cupolas weapon mounts) as well as interiors are often lacking. ==Need pics== Mark IX tank Tetrarch -not easy to get a good pic of since it appears to be surrounded by stuff Vickers 6-Ton Tank Excelsior tank Valentine Archer T14 Heavy Tank ==Improvable with a tripod== Little Willie-seriously dark though current image has an exposure of ¼ seconds Mark II female TOGII ==Improvable through other methods== Light tank Mk IIA -Might be better with a slightly greater depth of field Tortoise heavy assault tank-Some clever HDR or off camera flash use is needed to deal with the rather messy lighting Black Prince-slightly wider field of view (the area behind the tank is much brighter than the tank itself which may complicate things). Valiant tank- needs a wider field of view. Area around tank is also pretty dark. Vickers A1E1 Independent-Some clever HDR or off camera flash use is needed to deal with the rather messy lighting FV4401 Contentious-Needs a wider field of view although Covenanter tank-Photo could be taken at a better angle. Some clever HDR or off camera flash use is needed to deal with the rather messy lighting FV 4005-Photo could be taken at a better angle in better weather Mark VIII- pic needed that shows the whole tank Rolls-Royce Armoured Car-Possible some HDR work. The thing has gloss paint that complicates things. Peerless Armoured Car- Looks like it could use some serious fill flash. Conqueror tank- slightly wider field of view. Lighting is going to be a pain since there appears to be a window behind it so the thing is strongly backlit. You would almost want a large ring flash (something like the AlienBees ABR800). Tricky Fiat M13/40- slightly wider crop On 23 April 2014 19:14, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote: I just had a flick through some images in that category, and there is quite a lot that I reckon I'd be able to improve on with my D90 and a tripod. If only I had a spare day to go and take photos of tanks :) On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: Tog 1 they don't. The only Cavalier tank I'm aware of is one in rather poor condition on the isle of weight. They've got
[Wikimediauk-l] Fw: Fwd: Joseph's interview on Radio 4
Forwarding on behalf of Fae. Perhaps the list admins could consider allowing emails like this through. Harry Mitchell http://enwp.org/User:HJ Phone: 024 7698 0977 Skype: harry_j_mitchell On Saturday, 26 April 2014, 20:57, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Fæ fae...@gmail.com Date: 26 April 2014 12:17 Subject: Joseph's interview on Radio 4 To: UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org You can hear Joseph's interview on Friday's PM news programme at http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0418x6d, skip to 33 minutes in to the programme. It is 4 minutes long. This was after a request from the BBC for someone to talk to about long running disputes on the English Wikipedia. Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fw: Fwd: Joseph's interview on Radio 4
We do - but sometimes it takes time for an admin to get to the page to approve. On 27 Apr 2014 10:43, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote: Forwarding on behalf of Fae. Perhaps the list admins could consider allowing emails like this through. Harry Mitchell http://enwp.org/User:HJ Phone: 024 7698 0977 Skype: harry_j_mitchell On Saturday, 26 April 2014, 20:57, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Fæ fae...@gmail.com Date: 26 April 2014 12:17 Subject: Joseph's interview on Radio 4 To: UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org You can hear Joseph's interview on Friday's PM news programme at http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0418x6d, skip to 33 minutes in to the programme. It is 4 minutes long. This was after a request from the BBC for someone to talk to about long running disputes on the English Wikipedia. Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fw: Fwd: Joseph's interview on Radio 4
On 27 April 2014 10:43, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote: Forwarding on behalf of Fae. Perhaps the list admins could consider allowing emails like this through. It was let through. Fae wouldn't have seen it himself because gmail is helpful like that. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediauk-l/2014-April/012180.html Before indulging dramatists, be sure to check the archive. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fw: Fwd: Joseph's interview on Radio 4
On 27 April 2014 11:27, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 April 2014 10:43, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote: Forwarding on behalf of Fae. Perhaps the list admins could consider allowing emails like this through. It was let through. Fae wouldn't have seen it himself because gmail is helpful like that. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediauk-l/2014-April/012180.html Before indulging dramatists, be sure to check the archive. - d. The time and date Sat Apr 26 11:17:59 UTC 2014 was when I sent the email, not when it was posted to the list. Could you publish the time it was published to the list? Thanks, Fae ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fw: Fwd: Joseph's interview on Radio 4
On 27 April 2014 12:02, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: The time and date Sat Apr 26 11:17:59 UTC 2014 was when I sent the email, not when it was posted to the list. Could you publish the time it was published to the list? The mod queue emails the mods every morning at 8am UTC; it's attended to some time after that. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fw: Fwd: Joseph's interview on Radio 4
David, perhaps (unless the list gets large volumes of spam? In which case it would be impractical) you could set it to email the list admins when an email is received, rather than just once a day when there are pending emails. Or you and Fae could come to an agreement whereby Fae's could be taken of moderation? I'll just note that I had not received Fae's email via wikimediauk-l when I checked my emails this morning, which is why I forwarded it for him, and this is precisely the sort of nonsense that puts people off contributing - we can't even just congratulate Joe on being interviewed by Radio 4 without a row about list moderation. Harry Mitchell http://enwp.org/User:HJ Phone: 024 7698 0977 Skype: harry_j_mitchell On Sunday, 27 April 2014, 13:09, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 April 2014 12:02, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: The time and date Sat Apr 26 11:17:59 UTC 2014 was when I sent the email, not when it was posted to the list. Could you publish the time it was published to the list? The mod queue emails the mods every morning at 8am UTC; it's attended to some time after that. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fw: Fwd: Joseph's interview on Radio 4
I think I might have been the person that switched this list from per-email to digest moderator emails - the list was certainly getting quite a bit of spam back when I was a list admin, and I doubt the situation has improved since then. I would support Fæ being taken off moderation here, but it was because of Fæ that I had to stop being a list admin. :-/ So I would ask whether his current emails support people contributing, or if they put others off contributing... (I should probably ask the same about my own emails at the moment, sadly.) Thanks, Mike On 27 Apr 2014, at 21:27, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote: David, perhaps (unless the list gets large volumes of spam? In which case it would be impractical) you could set it to email the list admins when an email is received, rather than just once a day when there are pending emails. Or you and Fae could come to an agreement whereby Fae's could be taken of moderation? I'll just note that I had not received Fae's email via wikimediauk-l when I checked my emails this morning, which is why I forwarded it for him, and this is precisely the sort of nonsense that puts people off contributing - we can't even just congratulate Joe on being interviewed by Radio 4 without a row about list moderation. Harry Mitchell http://enwp.org/User:HJ Phone: 024 7698 0977 Skype: harry_j_mitchell On Sunday, 27 April 2014, 13:09, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 April 2014 12:02, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: The time and date Sat Apr 26 11:17:59 UTC 2014 was when I sent the email, not when it was posted to the list. Could you publish the time it was published to the list? The mod queue emails the mods every morning at 8am UTC; it's attended to some time after that. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk