[Wikimediauk-l] Joseph's interview on Radio 4

2014-04-27 Thread
You can hear Joseph's interview on Friday's PM news programme at
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0418x6d, skip to 33 minutes in to
the programme. It is 4 minutes long.

This was after a request from the BBC for someone to talk to about
long running disputes on the English Wikipedia.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photographers needed for photography at the Tank Museum in Dorset

2014-04-27 Thread Jonathan Cardy
Thanks Geni, Would you mind adding those suggestions to the
wishlisthttps://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Tank_Museum_2014#Requested_photographson
wiki, this mailing list is much better at making suggestions for
photos
that could be taken at that museum, and the mailing I did to Wiki Loves
Monuments participants has been more fruitful at recruiting photographers
who are going to go there. Including one who has assured me he will work
from that list.

I now have a number of requests to make of that museum covering everything
from lighting and moving the tanks around to having a ROV fly round in
their building. But as I have several photographers who have now taken a
third of the tickets, I think it would be best to wait until we can point
to some photos in use before I ask for what I suspect would be out of hours
access.

.

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On 26 April 2014 20:39, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:

 Long email is long.


  While expanding commons is a worthy goal the museum is likely to want
 pics that make it into Wikipedia articles. The main challenge with
 photographing vehicles tends to be their size. Getting even lighting over
 an object that big is tricky (and tanks tend to be large even for
 vehicles). Studio set-ups use a bunch of big lights. Wikipedians tend to
 use outdoor shots (the soft light of dawn/ evening or light overcast during
 the day generally produces he best results).


  Indoors lighting tends to be worse with point sources resulting in
 uneven illumination. The shear size of vehicles means you can't generally
 light the whole things from an onboard flash. There is a significant
 falloff at a greater distance. Better results can be obtained with off
 camera flashes but this requires multiple people and someone experienced
 with off camera flash. Still it might be worth seeing if a team can be put
 together. We must have someone who knows their way around flash photography.


  In terms of what can usefully be photographed offer the following list.
 In addition photos of details (suspension, cupolas weapon mounts) as well
 as interiors are often lacking.


  ==Need pics==


  Mark IX tank

 Tetrarch -not easy to get a good pic of since it appears to be surrounded
 by stuff

 Vickers 6-Ton Tank

 Excelsior tank

 Valentine Archer

 T14 Heavy Tank


  ==Improvable with a tripod==


  Little Willie-seriously dark though current image has an exposure of ¼
 seconds

 Mark II female

 TOGII


  ==Improvable through other methods==


  Light tank Mk IIA -Might be better with a slightly greater depth of field

 Tortoise heavy assault tank-Some clever HDR or off camera flash use is
 needed to deal with the rather messy lighting

 Black Prince-slightly wider field of view (the area behind the tank is
 much brighter than the tank itself which may complicate things).

 Valiant tank- needs a wider field of view. Area around tank is also pretty
 dark.

 Vickers A1E1 Independent-Some clever HDR or off camera flash use is needed
 to deal with the rather messy lighting

 FV4401 Contentious-Needs a wider field of view although

 Covenanter tank-Photo could be taken at a better angle. Some clever HDR or
 off camera flash use is needed to deal with the rather messy lighting

 FV 4005-Photo could be taken at a better angle in better weather

 Mark VIII- pic needed that shows the whole tank

 Rolls-Royce Armoured Car-Possible some HDR work. The thing has gloss paint
 that complicates things.

 Peerless Armoured Car- Looks like it could use some serious fill flash.

 Conqueror tank- slightly wider field of view. Lighting is going to be a
 pain since there appears to be a window behind it so the thing is strongly
 backlit. You would almost want a large ring flash (something like the
 AlienBees ABR800). Tricky

 Fiat M13/40- slightly wider crop


 On 23 April 2014 19:14, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just had a flick through some images in that category, and there is
 quite a lot that I reckon I'd be able to improve on with my D90 and a
 tripod. If only I had a spare day to go and take photos of tanks :)


 On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tog 1 they don't. The only Cavalier tank I'm aware of is one in rather
 poor condition on the isle of weight. They've got 

[Wikimediauk-l] Fw: Fwd: Joseph's interview on Radio 4

2014-04-27 Thread HJ Mitchell
Forwarding on behalf of Fae. Perhaps the list admins could consider allowing 
emails like this through.
 
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On Saturday, 26 April 2014, 20:57, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:


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Date: 26 April 2014 12:17
Subject: Joseph's interview on Radio 4
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org


You can hear Joseph's interview on Friday's PM news programme at
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0418x6d, skip to 33 minutes in to
the programme. It is 4 minutes long.

This was after a request from the BBC for someone to talk to about
long running disputes on the English Wikipedia.

Fae
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fw: Fwd: Joseph's interview on Radio 4

2014-04-27 Thread Richard Symonds
We do - but sometimes it takes time for an admin to get to the page to
approve.
On 27 Apr 2014 10:43, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote:

 Forwarding on behalf of Fae. Perhaps the list admins could consider
 allowing emails like this through.

 Harry Mitchell
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 Phone: 024 7698 0977
 Skype: harry_j_mitchell
   On Saturday, 26 April 2014, 20:57, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Fæ fae...@gmail.com
 Date: 26 April 2014 12:17
 Subject: Joseph's interview on Radio 4
 To: UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org


 You can hear Joseph's interview on Friday's PM news programme at
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0418x6d, skip to 33 minutes in to
 the programme. It is 4 minutes long.

 This was after a request from the BBC for someone to talk to about
 long running disputes on the English Wikipedia.

 Fae
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 fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fw: Fwd: Joseph's interview on Radio 4

2014-04-27 Thread David Gerard
On 27 April 2014 10:43, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote:

 Forwarding on behalf of Fae. Perhaps the list admins could consider allowing
 emails like this through.


It was let through. Fae wouldn't have seen it himself because gmail is
helpful like that.

http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediauk-l/2014-April/012180.html

Before indulging dramatists, be sure to check the archive.


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fw: Fwd: Joseph's interview on Radio 4

2014-04-27 Thread
On 27 April 2014 11:27, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 27 April 2014 10:43, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote:

 Forwarding on behalf of Fae. Perhaps the list admins could consider allowing
 emails like this through.


 It was let through. Fae wouldn't have seen it himself because gmail is
 helpful like that.

 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediauk-l/2014-April/012180.html

 Before indulging dramatists, be sure to check the archive.


 - d.

The time and date Sat Apr 26 11:17:59 UTC 2014 was when I sent the
email, not when it was posted to the list. Could you publish the time
it was published to the list?

Thanks,
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fw: Fwd: Joseph's interview on Radio 4

2014-04-27 Thread David Gerard
On 27 April 2014 12:02, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:

 The time and date Sat Apr 26 11:17:59 UTC 2014 was when I sent the
 email, not when it was posted to the list. Could you publish the time
 it was published to the list?


The mod queue emails the mods every morning at 8am UTC; it's attended
to some time after that.


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fw: Fwd: Joseph's interview on Radio 4

2014-04-27 Thread HJ Mitchell
David, perhaps (unless the list gets large volumes of spam? In which case it 
would be impractical) you could set it to email the list admins when an email 
is received, rather than just once a day when there are pending emails.

Or you and Fae could come to an agreement whereby Fae's could be taken of 
moderation? 

I'll just note that I had not received Fae's email via wikimediauk-l when I 
checked my emails this morning, which is why I forwarded it for him, and this 
is precisely the sort of nonsense that puts people off contributing - we can't 
even just congratulate Joe on being interviewed by Radio 4 without a row about 
list moderation. 
 
Harry Mitchell

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On Sunday, 27 April 2014, 13:09, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 
On 27 April 2014 12:02, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:

 The time and date Sat Apr 26 11:17:59 UTC 2014 was when I sent the
 email, not when it was posted to the list. Could you publish the time
 it was published to the list?


The mod queue emails the mods every morning at 8am UTC; it's attended
to some time after that.



- d.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fw: Fwd: Joseph's interview on Radio 4

2014-04-27 Thread Michael Peel
I think I might have been the person that switched this list from per-email to 
digest moderator emails - the list was certainly getting quite a bit of spam 
back when I was a list admin, and I doubt the situation has improved since then.

I would support Fæ being taken off moderation here, but it was because of Fæ 
that I had to stop being a list admin. :-/ So I would ask whether his current 
emails support people contributing, or if they put others off contributing... 
(I should probably ask the same about my own emails at the moment, sadly.)

Thanks,
Mike

On 27 Apr 2014, at 21:27, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote:

 David, perhaps (unless the list gets large volumes of spam? In which case it 
 would be impractical) you could set it to email the list admins when an email 
 is received, rather than just once a day when there are pending emails.
 
 Or you and Fae could come to an agreement whereby Fae's could be taken of 
 moderation? 
 
 I'll just note that I had not received Fae's email via wikimediauk-l when I 
 checked my emails this morning, which is why I forwarded it for him, and this 
 is precisely the sort of nonsense that puts people off contributing - we 
 can't even just congratulate Joe on being interviewed by Radio 4 without a 
 row about list moderation. 
  
 Harry Mitchell
 http://enwp.org/User:HJ
 Phone: 024 7698 0977
 Skype: harry_j_mitchell
 On Sunday, 27 April 2014, 13:09, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 27 April 2014 12:02, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  The time and date Sat Apr 26 11:17:59 UTC 2014 was when I sent the
  email, not when it was posted to the list. Could you publish the time
  it was published to the list?
 
 
 The mod queue emails the mods every morning at 8am UTC; it's attended
 to some time after that.
 
 
 
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