Re: [Wikimediauk-l] List participation

2015-03-07 Thread HJ Mitchell
At a basic level, yes, but salaried staff have responsibilities beyond what 
volunteers have, as do the trustees - who take on a legal duty to ensure the 
proper running of the charity, and who are asleep at the wheel in my opinion.  
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  From: Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com
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On 06/03/15 11:08, HJ Mitchell wrote:
 
 Never mind, though. As long as the board keep their heads in the sand
 it'll all be all right.  


Steady on old man. We are all volunteers here!

Gordo

P.S. Aren't WMF funds unrestricted?




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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] List participation

2015-03-07 Thread Gordon Joly
On 06/03/15 11:08, HJ Mitchell wrote:
 
 Never mind, though. As long as the board keep their heads in the sand
 it'll all be all right.  


Steady on old man. We are all volunteers here!

Gordo

P.S. Aren't WMF funds unrestricted?


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] List participation

2015-03-07 Thread Gordon Joly
On 06/03/15 18:02, rupert THURNER wrote:
 What are your most important KPIs?


Updates and growth on English, Scottish, Welsh and Simple English
wikipedias?

Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] List participation

2015-03-07 Thread Richard Farmbrough
Activity units  are a reasonable proxy for volunteer hours.  However it
is an open question whether spending time on WMUK events is more productive
than working on other projects.

On 6 March 2015 at 18:35, rexx r...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

 We should be looking at indirectly estimating the impact WMUK has in each
 given time-period on its goal: to promote and support the widest possible
 public access to, use of and contribution to Open Content of an
 encyclopaedic or educational nature or of similar utility to the general
 public, in particular the Open Content supported and provided by the
 Wikimedia Foundation.

 I'd suggest that a decent estimate of the number of volunteer-hours
 devoted to WMUK events per month would be a really good starting point. See
 what the trend has been over time.

 Volunteer involvement is the life-blood of WMUK. Anything else is
 unsustainable without that.

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 Rexx


 On 6 March 2015 at 18:02, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote:

 What are your most important KPIs?

 Rupert

 On Mar 6, 2015 12:08 PM, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote:
 
  It would be something to welcome if that activity had moved elsewhere,
 but as far as I can tell activity on the wiki is in decline as well.
 
  Not to worry, though - as long as we're meeting our meaningless KPIs
 I'm sure the FDC won't notice. Oh wait... Well, it's a good job we had that
 get-together last weekend so that the board could (pretend to) listen to
 the community's thoughts. Oh, wait... Well it's a good job WMUK has
 independent revenue streams. Oh, wait... Well, it's a good job we've still
 got those 200-odd volunteers from last year's Wikimania, they should help
 us tick some boxes for our KPIs. Oh wait...
 
  Never mind, though. As long as the board keep their heads in the sand
 it'll all be all right.
 
  Harry Mitchell
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  Phone: +44 (0) 7507 536971
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  On 06/03/15 10:01, Gordon Joly wrote:
   On 27/02/15 12:23, Tom Morris wrote:
   Less mailing list activity should be something we welcome rather than
   worry about.
  
  
   I am old school. I started nattering on the net in 1980, so old habits
   die hard (Usenet, Spuddy, WSMR, etc).
  
   Gordo
  
  
 
 
 
  The wiki works better than email for content (examples, issues,
  brainstorms etc.) for numerous reasons.
 
 
  Brainstorms?
 
  I rest my case.
 
 
 
 
  Gordo
 
 
 
 
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