Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 25 November

[Gordon Joly]

On 12/11/17 19:48, geni wrote:
> Does maker space mean "someone who might know something about .STL
> files"? (although I'll be there either way since I want to go to
> duxford).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STL_(file_format)

Just in case like me you did not know what STL was!

:-)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Free Parliamentary event - RecordDNA – developing an international research agenda for the future digital evidence base

[Gordon Joly]

On 25/11/17 12:46, John Lubbock wrote:
> Sold out now unfortunately. I would have been interested.

Not currently?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 25 November

[Gordon Joly]

On 02/11/17 21:12, Charles Matthews wrote:
> The meetup has a conventional wiki page
> 
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Cambridge/36
> 


Can you ask Prof. Hawking why he did not publish his thesis as an open
document?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] GLAM/MILHIST volunteer role

[Gordon Joly]

On 20/10/17 10:29, Chris Keating wrote:
> Hmmm - sadly I don't think writing Wikipedia articles is what they
> have in mind 

Yup. Some of these boards will want to attract people who are members of
a community (of the charity in question) but that will be explicit in
the person specification.

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[Wikimediauk-l] Trevor Martin article.

[Gordon Joly]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Martin

Trevor Martin died earlier this month. A serious "allegation" was on his
talk page from June 2009 until a few days after his death. It was signed
by SineBot.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Physiological Society editathon, London 13 October 2017

[Gordon Joly]

On 10/10/17 16:33, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> Are any of you planning to attend?


Virtual attendance, maybe?

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[Wikimediauk-l] Blippar

[Gordon Joly]

The English Heritage Members' Magazine has pages you can "blipp".

https://blippar.com/en/

http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/members-area/members-magazine/

The app recognises a page (or a building) and links to content (in the
case of magazine example, some videos).

A flexible replacement (or augmentation) for QRcodes and hence QRPedia?

http://qrpedia.org/

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ordnance Survey 1st series 1:10, 560 - a complete mid 19th century map of Britain

[Gordon Joly]

Were not the original maps "Crown Copyright"? And if so, how does that
affect the statement below?

***

This work is in the public domain in its country of origin and other
countries and areas where the copyright term is the author's life plus
100 years or less.

This work is in the public domain in the United States because it was
published (or registered with the U.S. Copyright Office) before January
1, 1923.


***

Taken from:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_Anglesey_OS_Map_name_002-SE,_Ordnance_Survey,_1888-1891.jpg

If the author was 25 in 1891 and lived to age 75, that is 1941, then
copyright expired in 2011?

And if she died aged 85, then copyright expires in 2021?

Working on death year plus 70.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] #4947276 Invoice secondary Notice

[Gordon Joly]

On 22/08/17 01:00, Katie Chan wrote:
> 
> Perhaps the dozens of messages that Ewan has posted to this email list
> FROM that email address on the many archive publicly available of
> wikimediauk-l?

Or the inner workings of his own mail client?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] #4947276 Invoice secondary Notice

[Gordon Joly]

On 21/08/17 17:16, Rex X wrote:
> For those that are interested, the spammer's IP seems to be 189.223.76.180,
> which geolocates to Rosarito, Estado de Baja California, Mexico and their ISP 
> is
> Telefonos del Noroeste, S.A. de C.V. if anyone wants to complain. They are
> simply using Ewan's name in the From: field, but it's worth him running a
> malware check just in case.

How did they link Ewan's email address to this email list?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] #4947276 Invoice secondary Notice

[Gordon Joly]

On 21/08/17 11:09, Lucy Crompton-Reid wrote:
> Sorry just saw that this actually came to the whole mailing list, not
> directly to Owen...but my point still stands!
> 



Any one of the four admins care to comment?

Gordon

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[Wikimediauk-l] "Native name" in Infobox?

[Gordon Joly]

The term "native name" the Infobox at

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konnie_Huq

Konnie Huq was born in Hammersmith, as was her sister.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupa_Huq

Native name: is there something better to describe her name in Bengali?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Open-licensed images of UK MPs are coming!

[Gordon Joly]

On 28/07/17 08:12, Gordon Joly wrote:
> Let us hope that everybody respects the CC licence.
> 
> Gordo

This licence

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.en

Gordo

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Odd? Peter Tatchell aritcle.

[Gordon Joly]

On 26/07/17 16:09, Michael Peel wrote:
> But for my canonical example of a Wikidata infobox:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole_Telescope
> Have a look at how the data is stored at:
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1513315
> Hopefully you'll agree it's clearer than wikicode, and the way to edit the 
> info is a bit clearer.

Thanks. I will put these under the microscope.

:-)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Odd? Peter Tatchell aritcle.

[Gordon Joly]

On 26/07/17 09:07, geni wrote:
> Template vandalism on.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Official_URL
> 
> If you are still getting issues purge the page.

Thanks. Now fixed.

*

This template is for use in infoboxes. It links to property P856
(official website) at Wikidata to retrieve the website and displays in
the same way as {{URL}}.

*

There has been some discussion on Facebook (and elsewhere?) about the
current trend to feed data from Wikidata directly in Wikipedia's Infoboxen.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/WikidataCommunity/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_person/Wikidata

Usage:

{{infobox person/Wikidata | fetchwikidata=ALL}}

I have suggested on Facebook that this might be putting a Infobox
editing beyond the reach of certain people, like me. I have yet to start
editing Wikidata.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Odd? Peter Tatchell aritcle.

[Gordon Joly]

On 26/07/17 09:12, Magnus Manske wrote:
> Confirmed. JS XSS thing?

Could be. But I have Firefox set to warn me?

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[Wikimediauk-l] Odd? Peter Tatchell aritcle.

[Gordon Joly]

I click on links at...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Tatchell

and I get some odd behaviour?

Can anybody confirm this?

And fix it?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM

[Gordon Joly]

On 16/07/17 19:44, Fæ wrote:
>  Along with a review to ensure the charity's Articles are
> made fit for the 21st century, 

I wonder if the transition to CIO could (should?) also happen?

Gordo



Wikimedia UK is a charity registered in England and Wales, number
1144513 and a company limited by guarantee registered in England and
Wales, registered no. 6741827.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM

[Gordon Joly]

The numbers of email addresses on this list are as follows:

207 Non-digested Members of Wikimediauk-l:

66 Digested Members of Wikimediauk-l:

So this list could have about half of the total membership of the Charity?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM

[Gordon Joly]

On 16/07/17 10:34, Katie Chan wrote:
> On 16/07/2017 10:07, Gordon Joly wrote:
>> On 15/07/17 22:39, Katie Chan wrote:
>>> The staff already worked most of a Saturday. People may want to give
>>> them a chance at a (rest of the) weekend?
>>>
>>> Katie
>>
>>
>> Of course. But why send to the mailing list *FIRST*?
> 
> I wasn't aware Richard Farmbrough is a member of staff. If I missed
> that, much congratulations on whatever role he's in. Or maybe you're
> proposing that the mailing list should be moderated and the original
> email shouldn't had been allowed through until after an email to the
> members?
> 
> Katie
> 


It was not official and hence my apologies. I await the official
announcement.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM

[Gordon Joly]

On 15/07/17 22:39, Katie Chan wrote:
> The staff already worked most of a Saturday. People may want to give
> them a chance at a (rest of the) weekend?
> 
> Katie


Of course. But why send to the mailing list *FIRST*?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM

[Gordon Joly]

On 15/07/17 16:24, Richard Farmbrough wrote:
> All candidates were voted in, and all resolutions passed,  nearly
> unanimously. 
> 

I hope the membership are emailed as well, since members might not be on
this discussion list?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK Annual Report and Accounts

[Gordon Joly]

On 15/07/17 14:53, Michael Peel wrote:
> That's an excellent turn-around to see. :-)
> 
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMUK_membership_over_time.jpg
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike


Very troubling. The trends are unreal.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK Annual Report and Accounts

[Gordon Joly]

Ringers?

Gordo

Sent from my Windows 10 phone

From: Fæ
Sent: 15 July 2017 17:59
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK Annual Report and Accounts

As I was at the AGM, I put the question of the 250% jump in membership
to the two trustees in the room standing for election. Both were
caught out, as neither had been informed about membership numbers and
none of the reports to the AGM mentioned membership increases.

It seems odd that there is no understanding or explanation for the
significant growth in membership and that the board has not taken the
opportunity to discuss the charity governance and obvious stability
risks that come with this sort of growth. Part of this is the absence
of meaningful verification of members, a matter I recall formally
raising back in 2013 when I was on the board. I was not expecting to
catch anyone out, as the board used to regularly track membership
numbers as a means of assessing the effectiveness of activities to
attract and retain members, something I had presumed was still normal.

Fae

On 15 July 2017 at 14:53, Michael Peel <em...@mikepeel.net> wrote:
> That's an excellent turn-around to see. :-)
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMUK_membership_over_time.jpg
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> On 15 Jul 2017, at 09:44, Lucy Crompton-Reid
> <lucy.crompton-r...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Yes, and today :)
>
> On 15 July 2017 at 12:39, Gordon Joly <gordon.j...@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 15/07/17 10:21, Richard Nevell wrote:
>> > Membership is 498.
>>
>>
>> Wow! That is the number of individuals (to which date)?
>>
>> Gordo
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>
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>
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>
> +44 (0) 207 065 0991
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK Annual Report and Accounts

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On 15/07/17 10:21, Richard Nevell wrote:
> Membership is 498.


Wow! That is the number of individuals (to which date)?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Firefox doesn't like cert for https://donate.wikimedia.org.uk

[Gordon Joly]

On 25/06/17 09:31, Lewis Cawte wrote:
> I'd question whether anyone would see the Bugzilla bug without actually
> looking, as most people probably won't be seeing any of the emails from it.
> 
> Sort of amusingly, that particular issue has its own bug report
>  which doesn't
> appear to have been worked on yet.
> 
> -- Lewis Cawte

Thought I would sign up for Bugzilla. You know, put in my two cents worth...

Pobox.com caught the email:-


DateFromSubject Caught By

Jun 25, 2:11 pm b...@wikimedia.org.uk   Bugzilla: confirm account
creationdnsbl/zen.spamhaus.org

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Firefox doesn't like cert for https://donate.wikimedia.org.uk

[Gordon Joly]

On 25/06/17 09:31, Lewis Cawte wrote:
> 
> 
> Sort of amusingly, that particular issue has its own bug report
>  which doesn't
> appear to have been worked on yet.
> 
> -- Lewis Cawte

I have done the SPF/DKIM/DMARC faffage for my own server, which has
several domains. You would need access to the DNS server, namely
ns{1,2,3}.livedns.co.uk, and setting up an email address to monitor the
DMARC quarantine email alerts.

I have had excellent results. No more blacklisting for my server!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Firefox doesn't like cert for https://donate.wikimedia.org.uk

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What a star!


Gordo


On 25/06/17 11:05, Thomas Morton wrote:
> Morning all.
> 
> I've taken a look and I think have resolved all the existing issues.
> We're now getting an A  on SSLLabs :) Charles can you check if the issue
> is resolved.
> 
> Just to be clear on an important change; I've disabled TLSV1.1 and below
> on the confidential server (board wiki and CiviCRM/Donate page). This is
> because I feel it needs a boost in security; what this DOES mean is that
> it now no longer supports Android versions below 4.4 and IE 10 and below.
> 
> If this poses a problem I can re-enable it, but standard practice is to
> move away from TLSV1.1 and below. 
> 
> I've left the website/wiki with the ealier TLS versions for wider
> support for now.
> 
> Sorry it took so long to get to this; my Gmail I don't check so often
> nowadays and I get a lot of junk that hides meaningful things; I've
> unsubscribed from lots of stuff and sorted some filters out to help with
> this. I'll also subscribe my work address to this list.
> 
> Cheers,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 at 10:35 Thomas Morton  > wrote:
> 
> taking a look this morning. Stay tuned.
> 
> T
> 
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 at 10:21 Charles Matthews
>  > wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 25 June 2017 at 09:18 David Gerard > > wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>> https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=donate.wikimedia.org.uk
>> is as broken as ever and clearly shows the incomplete cert chain
>> issue.
>>
>> I'm not going to mess around with yet another Bugzilla when
>> what I'm
>> reporting on is that I'm trying to give WMUK money and the
>> site's not
>> working properly. Y'know, WMUK can either care or not.
>>
> I believe they accept cheques.  Charles
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK member confirmation sent to spam by GMail

[Gordon Joly]

On 17/06/17 18:47, David Gerard wrote:
> tl;dr they want you using SPF, DMARC and DKIM. (The message headers
> say spf=neutral, which I expect means nobody's set it up.)
> 
> These are very faffy (we just set this up at work) but worth it. But
> also very faffy.


Yes, MailChimp also wants you to faff around.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Website certificate (again)

[Gordon Joly]

Thomas Morton - where are you? You're needed again!

Gordo

On 11/10/16 21:07, Richard Nevell wrote:
> Thank you!
> 
> On 11 October 2016 at 21:02, Thomas Morton <
> <mailto:morton.tho...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Cracked it! Man that was complicated; got stuff in the right order.
> Just running updates now.
> 
> T
> 
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 at 09:30 Thomas Morton
> <morton.tho...@googlemail.com <mailto:morton.tho...@googlemail.com>>
> wrote:
> 
> Eek! That's not good.
> 
> 
> I've been testing different things but nothing is working with
> FireFox. This Chrome one is new :/ I'll take a look tonight with
> a priority.
> 
> 
> T
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:24 , <leu...@fabiant.eu
> <mailto:leu...@fabiant.eu>> wrote:
> 
> __
> 
>
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I tried using Chrome as an alternative browser but
> experienced problems with that as well.
> 
> all the best
> 
> Fabian
> 
> aka Leutha
> 
> On 08 October 2016 at 16:21 Gordon Joly
> <gordon.j...@pobox.com <mailto:gordon.j...@pobox.com>>
> wrote:
> 
> The Qualys SSL checker:
> 
> 
> https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=wikimedia.org.uk
> 
> <https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=wikimedia.org.uk>
> 
> is less than happy about the site, granting it only
> a grade C for both
> the IPv4 and IPv6 configurations. See the reports
> generated there for a
> whole bunch of warnings regarding potential
> vulnerabilities and other
> technical glitches regarding both the certificate
> and server configuration.
> 
> Neil
> 
> "This server is vulnerable to the POODLE attack. If
> possible, disable
> SSL 3 to mitigate. Grade capped to C."
> 
> Any chance that WMUK can fix the server?
> 
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> Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia
> Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
> 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Firefox doesn't like cert for https://donate.wikimedia.org.uk

[Gordon Joly]

On 15/06/17 12:04, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Please open a ticket for that and explain exactly what goes wrong. I'll
> have a look this WE.
> 
> Emmanuel


Some ancient history...

Gordo


On 02/10/16 22:38, Neil Harris wrote:
> On 02/10/16 17:50, Gordon Joly wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://wikimedia.org.uk/
>>
>> I belief that problem with Firefox is extant.
>>
>> Gordo
>>
>>
>
> The Qualys SSL checker:
>
> https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=wikimedia.org.uk
>
> is less than happy about the site, granting it only a grade C for both
> the IPv4 and IPv6 configurations. See the reports generated there for a
> whole bunch of warnings regarding potential vulnerabilities and other
> technical glitches regarding both the certificate and server
configuration.
>
> Neil
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Firefox doesn't like cert for https://donate.wikimedia.org.uk

[Gordon Joly]

Ubuntu? Michael appears to be running Sierra, which is also known as
"SLOWER"... when it comes to updates :-)

Firefox 53.0.3 on Linux Mint 18.1 (an Ubuntu fork) here at LoopZilla HQ.


On 15/06/17 11:52, David Gerard wrote:
> Update to Firefox 54 (just hit the Ubuntu repos today) and see what it does?
> 
> On 15 June 2017 at 11:37, Michael Maggs  > wrote:
> 
> This seems to be a really odd and annoying error. I've come across
> it several times myself, using Firefox, but this time I had no
> problems with the certificate. I'm running Firefox for Mac 53.0.3 on
> MacOS Sierra.
> 
> Michael
> 
>> David Gerard 
>> 15 June 2017 at 10:28 am
>> Just renewed my WMUK membership, and Firefox balked at the SSL
>> certificate. The cert doesn't expire until 2019, but Firefox 54
>> doesn't like it.
>>
>> Oddly, Chromium 58 is fine with it.
>>
>> Can anyone see what's wrong, which CA Firefox doesn't like any
>> more etc?
>>
>>
>> - d.
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[Wikimediauk-l] Yet Another Open Data project.

[Gordon Joly]

FYI

Hong Kong joins the Global Mosquito Alert fight using Open Data



https://blog.okfn.org/2017/06/14/hong-kong-joins-the-global-mosquito-alert-fight-using-open-data/

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Opportunity to become a Wikimedia UK trainer - Edinburgh 4-5th July

[Gordon Joly]

On 07/06/17 15:36, Daria Cybulska wrote:
> The event is open to anyone who can make a credible commitment to
> support Wikimedia UK training in future.


I can make incredible commitment!

:-)

Gordon

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposed election night editathon

[Gordon Joly]

On 01/06/17 18:11, John Lubbock wrote:
> Hey all, here's the event page on Facebook. Please let me know if you're
> coming by listing your attendance. 
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/events/1419398211460956
> 
> John

Including virtual attendance?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Designs for T shirts

[Gordon Joly]

On 01/06/17 10:55, John Lubbock wrote:
> I do wonder how much it would cost extra to make personalised ones. :)
> 

That would be a revenue stream. Does WMUK have a commercial subsidiary?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK at Byline Festival on 2nd June

[Gordon Joly]

On 26/05/17 19:45, geni wrote:
> 
> Yes please. There appear to be people there we need better photos of.

Where will we pitch our tent, geni?

:-)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK at Byline Festival on 2nd June

[Gordon Joly]

On 26/05/17 01:03, geni wrote:
> Need a couple of days to decide if "Woodstock for the Facebook
> Generation" is something I want to attend sober. If I do I will be
> able to provide lifts from anywhere between Southampton and one of the
> emptier bits of East Sussex.
> 
> -- 


"Turn on, tune in, drop out"?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Designs for T shirts

[Gordon Joly]

On 20/05/17 01:42, John Lubbock wrote:
> . Wikimedia Nederland does one with a the Wikimedia logo as a
> stroopwafel, a Dutch caramel biscuit.


Perhaps I should explain a little more about this sweet Dutch snack.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Monkey_selfie_with_a_stroopwafel.jpg

"Monkey selfie with a stroopwafel" was a mash up of two memes at
Wikimania in London in 2014. Who can forget the monkey? Who can forget
the stroopwafels that were available at the event? I guess some newbies
will not be aware of these cultural icons.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stroopwafel_selfie_1.jpg

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Designs for T shirts

[Gordon Joly]

On 20/05/17 01:42, John Lubbock wrote:
> as a stroopwafel, a Dutch caramel biscuit.

Who knew!

:-)



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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Designs for T shirts

[Gordon Joly]

On 18/05/17 14:37, geni wrote:



Looks a bit generic corporate. Where's the humor? The slogans? The
references to obscure 60s Sci-fi encyclopedias?


Is there a matching chocolate bar?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Re: CC licenses for PhD theses

[Gordon Joly]

Are there not some MailMan rules about the number of addresses in the
CC: and TO: fields?

Also consider SPF and DKIM and DMARC w.r.t the sender?

*
>From: domain publishes a DMARC p=reject or p=quarantine policy, see the
dmarc_moderation_action description in the Sender filters section.
*

Who checks "quarantined" emails for the domain "lists.wikimedia.org"?

Gordo

On 05/05/17 14:42, David Gerard wrote:
> I can tell you it didn't get stuck in the admin queue or I would have
> let it through ... I don't *think* the Mailman system is set up to
> reject mail before it even hits the admin queue, but I could be wrong
> ...
> 
> On 5 May 2017 at 14:32,   wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This is the email I sent on Tuesday, which as far as I can see never went
>> through the list (apologies if it has, but there is no record on the
>> archive)
>>
>> all the best
>>
>> Fabian
>>
>> aka Leutha
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: leu...@fabiant.eu
>> To: Lucy Crompton-Reid , UK Wikimedia
>> mailing list 
>> Cc: John Lubbock 
>> Date: 02 May 2017 at 20:49
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses
>>
>> Hi Lucy,


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposed election night editathon

[Gordon Joly]

On 05/05/17 11:56, John Lubbock wrote:
> Oh yeah, if anyone else is going to the hackathons in Prague or Vienna,
> let me know. It would be good to connect with UK based developers.


That'll be the WMUK Prague Faction and the WMUK Vienna Branch?

:-)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Problems with list

[Gordon Joly]

On 03/05/17 17:27, leu...@fabiant.eu wrote:
> 
> Please see below a message from John which I am forwarding this to the
> list. It was underneath another email which I received from the list,
> but which has somehow been scrubbed from the archive. I am also not sure
> what happened to my response to Lucy.
> 
> 

Scrubbed? Which messages were scrubbed? I can see two in the May archives.

**

[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimediauk-l Digest, Vol 142, Issue 3   John Byrne
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses (John Byrne)   John Byrne
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Starting: Mon May 1 13:01:33 UTC 2017
Ending: Wed May 3 16:47:39 UTC 2017
Messages: 29

[Wikimediauk-l] Proposed election night editathon   John Lubbock
[Wikimediauk-l] Proposed election night editathon   Ed Hand
[Wikimediauk-l] Possible project--Animal locomotion   John Lubbock
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses   John Levin
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses   John Lubbock
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses   John Levin
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses   John Lubbock
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses   Deryck Chan
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses   John Lubbock
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses   Richard Nevell
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses   leutha at
fabiant.eu
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses   John Lubbock
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses   leutha at
fabiant.eu
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses   Lucy
Crompton-Reid
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses   Fæ
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses   Michael Peel
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses   John Lubbock
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses   John Munch
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses   Gordon Joly
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses   Lucy
Crompton-Reid
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses   Lucy
Crompton-Reid
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses   Charles
Matthews
[Wikimediauk-l] 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board Elections   Michael
Maggs
[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimediauk-l Digest, Vol 142, Issue 3   John Byrne
[Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses (John Byrne)   John Byrne
[Wikimediauk-l] Problems with list   leutha at fabiant.eu
[Wikimediauk-l] Problems with list   Lucy Crompton-Reid
[Wikimediauk-l] Problems with list   Gordon Joly
[Wikimediauk-l] Problems with list   David Gerard

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CC licenses for PhD theses

[Gordon Joly]

On 02/05/17 14:05, John Lubbock wrote:
> Hi Fabian. Do you not think that this time consuming process of asking
> authors individually could be substantially reduced by getting
> universities to understand the benefits of Open Licenses and having them
> give their students the option of publishing on CC licenses. Then the
> only work we would have to do is to upload them.
> 
> John

And what about open publishing of research papers?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimediauk-l list run by ????

[Gordon Joly]

On 26/04/17 16:47, David Gerard wrote:
> Run by WMF, so up to them.
> 
> Have a conversation about migrating from GNU Mailman 2.1 to GNU Mailman 3.0
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52864
> 
> Official support for upgrade from existing Mailman 2.1 lists to Mailman 3
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130554
> 
> 
> - d.
> 

Many thanks D.



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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimediauk-l list run by ????

[Gordon Joly]

Mailman is part of our protection.

> Wikimedia UK mailing list
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> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
> WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

"Delivered by Mailman version 2.1.18" but Mailman 2.1.23 is available.

Time for an upgrade?

Gordo



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list for Wikisource, the free library 
CC: gendergap , WikimediaUK-l


Spam/scam, with a forged from email address field.

Apology to anyone who received the original email(s).

KTC

On 15/03/2017 09:55, Andrea Zanni wrote:
> mmm, scam?
>
> Aubrey
>

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Election Edit-a-thon

[Gordon Joly]

On 23/04/17 04:41, geni wrote:
> Poorly. MPs should be out and about a bit more in the next few weeks
> but I always feel a but iffy bringing serious camera gear to Q
> sessions and the like.


Why? Surely they are all open to being photographed? And why "serious
gear"? Just an iPhone would do?

I rarely take any sort of portrait photograph but the candidate are out
there so be seen (and heard).

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Election Edit-a-thon

[Gordon Joly]

> http://bit.ly/GE2017WarRoomAtNewspeakHouse

Are we at War?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia Commons question

[Gordon Joly]

On 23/03/17 15:08, Steve Bowbrick wrote:
> So, in the interests of updating my knowledge (and possibly our policy), 
>is there any up-to-date advice for organisations like the BBC about the
safe usage of content from the Wikimedia Commons


Safe in what sense? Pr0n?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK policy updates - consultation

[Gordon Joly]

On 02/03/17 00:11, Michael Peel wrote:
> 
> I see that the new volunteers policy removes a key phrase that was often
> used in WMUK's past: "staff should only do things that volunteers either
> cannot do or do not want to do". That's OK - perhaps that phrase has now
> outlived its usefulness - but it might be useful to recall why that
> phrase started being used. Caveat that my memory has faded over the
> years, so if other have a different recollection then please share it!


Did not staff do (positive) things with a "volunteer hat" or a "staff
hat" in the past, depending on the context?

And the same observation of many of the Trustees, who were very active
as volunteers in the community as well captains and stewards of the WMUK
ship?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Guardian obituaries feed

[Gordon Joly]

Any source? Some bad language therein

http://alt.obituaries.narkive.com/

Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Media spokespeople

[Gordon Joly]

On 16/02/17 17:08, Lucy Crompton-Reid wrote:
> In several cases this was because the editor concerned didn't agree
> with the decision, and so could potentially defend the process but not
> the outcome.

A rather complex decision (to ban the Daily Mail) with a lot of history,
and some un-answered questions (e.g. why are other sources not on the
banned list?).

If WMUK had some warning, who would they want to put up? John Lubbock?

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[Wikimediauk-l] London meetup.

[Gordon Joly]

FYI,

A new venue for March (and April).

:-)

Gordo

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[Wikimediauk-l] The Chaterhouse.

[Gordon Joly]

FYI,

http://www.thecharterhouse.org/

A new museum in London. In partnership with the Museum of London.

Gordo

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] What Volunteer Equipment should we buy?

[Gordon Joly]

On 09/02/17 11:16, Charles Matthews wrote:
>>
> I imagine, rather less than the administrative cost of running a
> membership organisation of a couple of hundred members. Remember the
> discussion about this, in early 2010? Didn't think so.
> 
> Charles
> 


I am not sure I remember. Should I look it up?

I am happy to reflect on my own reasons for re-joining WMUK and what has
happened in the past few years. For my own personal consumption, if
that's OK with y'all.

Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] What Volunteer Equipment should we buy?

[Gordon Joly]

On 09/02/17 09:34, Lucy Crompton-Reid wrote:
> Thanks Katie :)
> 
> On 9 February 2017 at 00:00, Katie Chan  > wrote:
> 
> It's been called Friends' Newsletter since April 2014 when it
> started going to company members, those who signed up independently
> (either through an online form or on one of WMUK flyers), and some
> who said yes during a post WLM survey. It replaced the previous
> Members' Newsletter which only went out to company members.
> 
> KTC

I do like Categories!

https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Category:Friends%27_Newsletter

:-)

Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] What Volunteer Equipment should we buy?

[Gordon Joly]

On 08/02/17 17:01, Lucy Crompton-Reid wrote:
> The newsletter goes to paying members but also a much wider group of
> subscribers. 


So what are we paying for?

:-)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] What Volunteer Equipment should we buy?

[Gordon Joly]

On 08/02/17 00:51, geni wrote:
> For those that didn't read the Friends' Newsletter

I don't normally read the Friends' Newsletter. Is this a new serial
publication? Makes interesting reading though.

"Copyright law in its current form works for large rightsholders
organisations, but doesn’t work for individual creators and users of
creative works."

I think we try to make it work for us, perhaps? And I am not monkeying
around!

:-)

Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Digitisaton of East India Company/ India Office records

[Gordon Joly]

On 06/02/17 13:36, Lucy Crompton-Reid wrote:
> 
> Some of you may be aware that 2017 is the UK - India Year of Culture. I
> guess this resource may relate to that, or it could be a coincidence.
> Either way, it would be great to see what the potential is in terms of
> the Wikimedia projects :)
> 


I am not so sure. Wasn't the East India Company in reality a body that
acted as if they were country of occupation in India?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia developers discussion

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Funny how my question about open source alternatives was not answered in
Slack, but has prompted several responses in this email list

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia developers discussion

[Gordon Joly]

On 17/01/17 00:38, John Lubbock wrote:
> It costs a lot of money, as far as I can see (it says Try for Free and
> then takes you to a page where it asks you to pay $100 a month).


We wrote Discourse, and we can host it for you, too.


Yes, that is a hosting option. You can download and install for free. I
am suggesting WMUK host the code on their own server...

Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia developers discussion

[Gordon Joly]

How about Discourse?

http://www.discourse.org/

"Discourse is the 100% open source discussion platform built for the
next decade of the Internet."

Here is the code:

https://github.com/discourse/discourse

Gordo


On 16/01/17 17:18, Edward Saperia wrote:
> The closest equivalent is IRC, I guess. However, it's a barrier to entry.
> 
> See also http://xkcd.com/1782/
> 
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> Founder Newspeak House <http://www.nwspk.com>
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> 
> On 16 January 2017 at 17:13, Richard Nevell
> <richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk
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> 
>     Is there an open source version of slack?
> 
> On 16 January 2017 at 15:59, Gordon Joly <gordon.j...@pobox.com
> <mailto:gordon.j...@pobox.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> >>Why are we not on an Open Source platform?<<
> 
> http://wikidevsuk.slack.com
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> I did ask this question a while back on SLACK
> 
> Is there a good answer?
> 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia developers discussion

[Gordon Joly]

>>Why are we not on an Open Source platform?<<

http://wikidevsuk.slack.com

I did ask this question a while back on SLACK

Is there a good answer?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia developers discussion

[Gordon Joly]

On 14/11/16 13:42, John Lubbock wrote:
> If you would like to be added to the channel to discuss with other
> Wikimedia developers how to take the idea forward and share what you
> might already be working on, please reply with your interest and let me
> know your email address so I can send you an invite to the
> channel, wikidevsuk.slack.com  .
> 

Is this active?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: London Meetup on 11th December

[Gordon Joly]

On 09/12/16 17:21, Lucy Crompton-Reid wrote:
> where a space has been reserved from 1pm. 


Upstairs we hope!

:-)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

[Gordon Joly]

On 09/12/16 11:10, Andrew West wrote:
>  the lists are notable
> and of public interest because they have been featured in TV
> programmes, 


And radio too!

:-)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

[Gordon Joly]

On 08/12/16 17:32, Michael Peel wrote:
> An interesting question that could do with a speedy response (and maybe
> a copyright release email from the BBC to OTRS) has been posted at:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:100_Women_(BBC)#Is_it_not_a_copyright_violation_to_publish_this_list.3F
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike

I have often observed how the BBC did not adopt a standard Creative
Commons licence but developed their own (as a result of the massive
pressure of rights).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/creativearchive/

So, don't hold your breath!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

[Gordon Joly]

On 08/12/16 13:37, Lucy Crompton-Reid wrote:
> 
> At the training events we are of course reinforcing the need for
> appropriate secondary sources, and lots of preparation work has been
> done by Roger and other Women in Red editors, Stuart Prior at Wikimedia
> UK and BBC staff to create lists of women to be added - with sources -
> on the resources section of the meta page:

And somewhere a request not to "cherry pick" easy biographies so that
they can be created as part of today's event, since WiR (as part of BBC
100 Women) is a event spread over a much longer time frame (21 Nov - 15
Dec 2016).

Jimmy Wales was the the BBC (interviewed on BBC OS). I was a little
frustrated that this hour long programme featured the Editathon
interspersed with "World News".

Available at https://twitter.com/BBCOS (Periscope).

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

[Gordon Joly]

On 08/12/16 12:56, WereSpielChequers wrote:
> 
> I'm wondering whether it might be worth doing an article rescue
> editathon as part of the next feminism event -

Or any other themed event?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC 100 Women and Wikimedia

[Gordon Joly]

On 08/12/16 12:01, Sara Thomas wrote:
> 
> As is my custom, I'll be placing the {{new user article}} template on
> the talk pages of any articles created by new users today.

Which then expands to

**
This is an article recently created by a new user. More editing may be
needed to meet standards, but please be courteous and assume good faith,
and consider leaving a constructive message on the creator's talk page
if large changes need to be made.
This template should be removed once the page has been reviewed by
someone other than its creator. If you are the article's creator, you
can seek feedback on your new article.
**

:-)


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] House of Commons editathon

[Gordon Joly]

On 15/11/16 11:41, Stuart Prior wrote:
> 
> Just a reminder that we have this event coming up this weekend.

A clash with an event at Wellcome Institute?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Wellcome/Events_and_Workshops/Beyond_the_Asylum_2

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia developers discussion

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On 14/11/16 18:51, Gordon Joly wrote:
> On 14/11/16 13:42, John Lubbock wrote:
>> please reply with your interest and let me know your email address so I
>> can send you an invite to the channel, wikidevsuk.slack.com
>> <http://wikidevsuk.slack.com> .
>>
> 
> 
> How do I sign up (sign in)?
> 
> Gordo
> 
> 


I am INTERESTED!

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] East London Meetup?

[Gordon Joly]

Glad it happened! The last Tuesday of the month clashes with another
meeting I attend (but sometimes I arrive late at the Wikimeet if the
other meeting finishes early).

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[Wikimediauk-l] East London Meetup?

[Gordon Joly]

Seems like this will be a null event?

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/East_London/8

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Freelance work.

[Gordon Joly]

Came from People Per Hour. A constant source of offers to perform paid
editing on Wikipedia.

https://www.peopleperhour.com/

Gordo




On 21/10/16 17:12, Richard Symonds wrote:
> Possibly misdirected?
> 
> 
> On 6 Oct 2016 13:21, "Gordon Joly" <gordon.j...@pobox.com
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> 
> Hi Gordon,
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> Hope you are well. I have a client who would like to create a Wikipedia
> page for himself. We have a draft of copy for the page. We also have two
> sources.
> 
> I am looking for some expertise, guidance, and ultimately someone to
> create the page in its entirety. Is this something you can help with? I
> would like to get the ball rolling with this fairly soon. If I send some
> further details over to you, would you be able to give me a quote for
> the work?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Harry
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposals for APG funding from the Wikimedia Foundation are open for community review

[Gordon Joly]

On 14/10/16 12:58, Lucy Crompton-Reid wrote:
> 
> The Wikimedia UK proposal for funding from February 2017 to January 2018
> can be found here - please take a look!:


With a falling pound, revenues requested become cheaper for the WMF.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Mass image uploads expert

[Gordon Joly]

On 14/10/16 08:18, r...@rodspace.co.uk wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>  
> 
> I have just spotted an announcement of a historic photograph
> digitisation project by the friends of the Somerset Life Museum
> Research Group (see
> https://somersetrurallifemuseum.org.uk/2016/10/13/digitisation-project/
> ) aiming to digitise 15,000 images.
> 
>  
> 


Similar projects (small and large) can be found under the umbrella of
the "Community Archives and Heritage Group"

http://www.communityarchives.org.uk/

The 2016 Annual Award overall winner was the Dartmoor Trust.

http://dartmoortrust.org/

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] New post at Wikimedia UK

[Gordon Joly]

On 13/10/16 15:00, Lucy Crompton-Reid wrote:
> Well for the moment we're in London - the office is not likely to be
> moving until December 2017/January 2018. Personally I'd love a move
> North - over the border in fact - but not sure how viable that is! 
> 


Towards an independent Scotland, inside the EU?

:-)


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Could Wikimedia UK keep an eye on which museums are going to close and give us the heads up?

[Gordon Joly]

On 11/10/16 16:12, geni wrote:
> 5 museums in Lancashire closed recently.
> 
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-37512136
> 
> Museums close fairly regularly (although not normally in that number)
> . Is it possible WMUK could keep track of this and give us a heads up
> as a sort of "last chance to see"?
> 
> 


The London Borough of Newham has no museums. And they didn't come the
Olympic Legacy, it seems.



1898 - Passmore Edwards Museum - Romford Road, Stratford, London, UK

Quick Description: The building was constructed as the Passmore Edwards
Museum in 1898. It is now used by the Student Union of the University of
East London.


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK SSL Issues

[Gordon Joly]

On 12/10/16 11:01, Katherine Bavage wrote:
> Nice one! And three years before we have to worry about it again A+++ :D


Not exactly true. I think Tom addressed several issues concerning security.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK SSL Issues

[Gordon Joly]

On 11/10/16 21:43, Thomas Morton wrote:
> 
> Thanks for everyone that chipped in to this.
> 
> Cheers,
> Tom


Well done Tom!

:-)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Website certificate (again)

[Gordon Joly]

> 
> The Qualys SSL checker:
> 
> https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=wikimedia.org.uk
> 
> is less than happy about the site, granting it only a grade C for both
> the IPv4 and IPv6 configurations. See the reports generated there for a
> whole bunch of warnings regarding potential vulnerabilities and other
> technical glitches regarding both the certificate and server configuration.
> 
> Neil
> 
> 

"This server is vulnerable to the POODLE attack. If possible, disable
SSL 3 to mitigate. Grade capped to C."

Any chance that WMUK can fix the server?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Development of the process for defining the new long term Wikimedia movement strategy

[Gordon Joly]

On 07/10/16 11:22, Lucy Crompton-Reid wrote:
> 
> Over the next year, the Wikimedia Foundation is going to be leading the
> development of a new long term strategy for the global Wikimedia
> movement. The wiki page on this is here:
> 
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/2016-2017
> 


Long term? That would mean more 5, 10 or 15 years? Cannot see which
timeframe is being considered.


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[Wikimediauk-l] Freelance work.

[Gordon Joly]

Hi Gordon,

Hope you are well. I have a client who would like to create a Wikipedia
page for himself. We have a draft of copy for the page. We also have two
sources.

I am looking for some expertise, guidance, and ultimately someone to
create the page in its entirety. Is this something you can help with? I
would like to get the ball rolling with this fairly soon. If I send some
further details over to you, would you be able to give me a quote for
the work?

Many thanks,

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Website certificate (again)

[Gordon Joly]

On 22/09/16 14:10, Lester Caine wrote:
> When the certificate needs renewing , letsencrypt is
> worth a look as it's free and can be configured to automatically refresh
> it's certificates.


Interesting.

https://letsencrypt.org/

I have used STARTTLS...

But this seems also to have a problem?

https://www.starttls.info/

This site uses "Let's Encrypt Authority X3"

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Mozfest volunteers

[Gordon Joly]

On 22/09/16 10:45, leu...@fabiant.eu wrote:
> 
>   * East London Meetup 7
> : Tuesday 27th
> September 2016 — 19:30 - 21:00 Canary Wharf: perhaps we can see what
> strands WMs want  to follow up at Mozfest
>   * East London Meetup 8
> : Tuesday 27th
> September 2016 — 19:30 - 21:00 Canary Wharf: this will be a Mozfest
> Fringe event, so it will be an opportunity for Mozfest volunteers to
> find out a bit more about the Wikimedian community.

The second date is Tuesday 25th October.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Website certificate (again)

[Gordon Joly]

On 22/09/16 10:37, Gordon Joly wrote:
> On 21/09/16 11:17, Lucy Crompton-Reid wrote:
>> Thanks Tom! It confused me as well...
> 
> Can I perhaps shed some light? Firefox is now complaining about some
> other sites, so perhaps the fault is with Firefox?
> 
> I run Firefox 48.0 on Linux Mint 17.3
> 
> Gordo
> 
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Maybe not. Looks like the site I just visited has an expired certificate!

:-(

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Website certificate (again)

[Gordon Joly]

On 21/09/16 11:17, Lucy Crompton-Reid wrote:
> Thanks Tom! It confused me as well...

Can I perhaps shed some light? Firefox is now complaining about some
other sites, so perhaps the fault is with Firefox?

I run Firefox 48.0 on Linux Mint 17.3

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Website certificate (again)

[Gordon Joly]

Any update on when this will be fixed?

Many thanks,

Gordon


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> 
> We have successfully purchased a new SSL certificate (for three years)
> and I believe one of our developers was installing it yesterday, so I'm
> not sure exactly what's happened here. Will investigate but the person
> dealing with this is taking a few days off for his birthday so it may
> take a few days for us to get back to you/resolve any issues, sorry. 
> 
> Lucy
> 
> 
> On 15 September 2016 at 13:04, Gordon Joly <gordon.j...@pobox.com
> <mailto:gordon.j...@pobox.com>> wrote:
> 
> On 15/09/16 12:59, Katie Chan wrote:
> > Firefox (Win & Linux) & https://wikimedia.org.uk/ results in a
> > SEC_ERROR_UNKNOWN_ISSUER error message and the associated warning that
> > "Your connection is not secure".
> >
> > Okay in Chrome & IE.
> 
> 
> Yes, it's that time again!
> 
> :-)
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Website certificate (again)

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On 15/09/16 13:10, Lucy Crompton-Reid wrote:
> Hi Gordo (and all)
> 
> We have successfully purchased a new SSL certificate (for three years)
> and I believe one of our developers was installing it yesterday, so I'm
> not sure exactly what's happened here. Will investigate but the person
> dealing with this is taking a few days off for his birthday so it may
> take a few days for us to get back to you/resolve any issues, sorry. 
> 
> Lucy
> 


OK. I noticed it was a new certificate.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Website certificate (again)

[Gordon Joly]

FYI

Gordo

***


SSL Server Certificate
Issued To

Common Name (CN)*.wikimedia.org.uk
Organisation (O)Wikimedia UK
Organisational Unit (OU)IT
Issued By

Common Name (CN)Gandi Pro SSL CA 2
Organisation (O)Gandi
Organisational Unit (OU)
Validity Period

Issued On   Tuesday, 13 September 2016 at 01:00:00
Expires On  Wednesday, 18 September 2019 at 00:59:59





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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Website certificate (again)

[Gordon Joly]

On 15/09/16 12:59, Katie Chan wrote:
> Firefox (Win & Linux) & https://wikimedia.org.uk/ results in a
> SEC_ERROR_UNKNOWN_ISSUER error message and the associated warning that
> "Your connection is not secure".
> 
> Okay in Chrome &

Here is a little more from Firefox.

Chrome is fine for me.

Gordo





https://wikimedia.org.uk/



Peer's Certificate issuer is not recognised.



HTTP Strict Transport Security: false

HTTP Public Key Pinning: false



Certificate chain:



-BEGIN CERTIFICATE-

MIIFXDCCBESgAwIBAgIQXRDqQk8tScYDVoJh5bgbHjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADBa

MQswCQYDVQQGEwJGUjEOMAwGA1UECBMFUGFyaXMxDjAMBgNVBAcTBVBhcmlzMQ4w

DAYDVQQKEwVHYW5kaTEbMBkGA1UEAxMSR2FuZGkgUHJvIFNTTCBDQSAyMB4XDTE2

MDkxMzAwMDAwMFoXDTE5MDkxNzIzNTk1OVowgcgxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkdCMREwDwYD

VQQREwhFQzJBIDRMVDEPMA0GA1UECBMGTG9uZG9uMQ8wDQYDVQQHEwZMb25kb24x

IjAgBgNVBAkTGTU2IC0gNjQgRGV2ZWxvcG1lbnQgSG91c2UxFTATBgNVBAoTDFdp

a2ltZWRpYSBVSzELMAkGA1UECxMCSVQxHzAdBgNVBAsTFkdhbmRpIFBybyBXaWxk

Y2FyZCBTU0wxGzAZBgNVBAMMEioud2lraW1lZGlhLm9yZy51azCCASIwDQYJKoZI

hvcNAQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoCggEBAMEXghbQ3/CXSWmsm86ynJ5+X1tLrEv6GBYT

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Website certificate (again)

[Gordon Joly]

On 15/09/16 12:59, Katie Chan wrote:
> Firefox (Win & Linux) & https://wikimedia.org.uk/ results in a
> SEC_ERROR_UNKNOWN_ISSUER error message and the associated warning that
> "Your connection is not secure".
> 
> Okay in Chrome & IE.


Yes, it's that time again!

:-)


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] How would you like to communicate with WMUK and other Wikimedians?

[Gordon Joly]

On 22/08/16 18:04, John Lubbock wrote:
> So I plan to start using the IRC channel freenode/wikimedia-uk to post
> some announcements and see what kind of engagement there is there.
> Everybody's welcome to join. I'll have it open during office hours.
> 
> John
> 


At the moment there are 14 "nicks" (earlier 18).

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Europeana/ BL wildlife sound editathon, London, 8 October 2016

[Gordon Joly]

On 31/08/16 18:23, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> Clem Rutter and I will be helping to run this event at the British
> Library on 8 October this year. The last one was great fun - we added
> European bird sounds to Wikipedias in 40 different languages, and to
> Wikidata and Wikispecies! This time we'll be adding Kenyan bird
> sounds. Training will be available, and the event is suitable for
> beginners, birders and non-birders alike. Do join us (free, but
> sign-up required).
> 
> http://www.europeanasounds.eu/news/come-on-a-sound-safari-with-the-british-library-and-wikimedia
> 
> 

Error 521 Ray ID: 2db9ec61554a3536 • 2016-09-01 15:58:24 UTC
Web server is down

Is there a problem?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] How would you like to communicate with WMUK and other Wikimedians?

[Gordon Joly]

On 22/08/16 18:04, John Lubbock wrote:
> So I plan to start using the IRC channel freenode/wikimedia-uk to post
> some announcements and see what kind of engagement there is there.
> Everybody's welcome to join. I'll have it open during office hours.
> 
> John
> 


Excellent. I am on now listening

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] How would you like to communicate with WMUK and other Wikimedians?

[Gordon Joly]

On 19/08/16 19:53, John Lubbock wrote:
> . So I've put a poll on Twitter
>  with some
> options for communications channels. I couldn't put more than four
> options, so I chose Facebook, the Water Cooler, Slack and the Mailing List. 


It is clear that one choice is already out in front!

:-)

Facebook is a very poor medium. Never heard of Slack.

https://slack.com/

How about Discourse?

http://www.discourse.org/

"Civilized Discussion"

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK photography contest

[Gordon Joly]

> By the end of November you are down to a little over 8 hours of
> daylight, the sun will be rather low for a good portion of that, and the
> weather will be, well, British. In which case another time of year would
> be preferable.

Good month for fog? Also December.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bow_Locks_in_fog.jpg

Bow Locks.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK office move - alternative locations?

[Gordon Joly]

On 15/08/16 08:58, Lucy Crompton-Reid wrote:
> 
> Yes, Wikimedia UK does have to move as the building we are currently
> based in has been sold by our current landlords (Ethical Property Ltd.)
> to new developers (who are likely to knock it down and start again,
> apparently!)


Ethical Properties provide office space for a variety of charities at
Development House. After many years of occupation, best of luck with
relocation: it's tough out there! :-)

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