[Wikimediauk-l] Re: Fwd: Bristol / Hanover Wiki Meetup, Saturday 19th September

[Rod Ward]

Martin,I am confused. Sat 19th Sept? My Calder says 19 Sept is a Tuesday.RodSent from my iPhoneOn 12 Aug 2023, at 09:52, Martin Poulter  wrote:Hi all,It's been a long time since Bristol Wikimedians have held an in-person meetup. I have arranged one for Saturday 19th September in the city centre. It's a special occasion because a delegation of Wikimedians from Bristol's twin city of Hanover will be present, and they're keen to meet as many of you as they can. This is an informal, friendly space to meet other wiki contributors in person and to welcome our German friends. See more details and please sign up on the Meta page.https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Bristol/4If you want more reason to come, there are many cultural attractions, often with free entry, in walking distance of the centre. Cheers,-- Dr Martin L PoulterWikipedia contributor         https://enwp.org/User:MartinPoulterWikidata contributor           https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:MartinPoulterVolunteer, Wikimedia UK   https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/User:MartinPoulter
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[Wikimediauk-l] Re: Image donation from the Royal Albert Memorial Museum

[Rod Ward]

Richard,

 

Just had a look and quite a few of the buildings/sites illustrated do not have 
articles & the main Exeter articles already has loads of images.

 

Added one or two to relevant categories on commons.

 

Rod

 

From: Richard Nevell [mailto:richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk] 
Sent: 18 January 2023 14:53
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Re: Image donation from the Royal Albert Memorial 
Museum

 

Thanks Farah - we're talking to RAMM about how to go about adding images to 
articles. We've not decided just yet, but one possibility is having a public 
editathon. I'll email this list if we go down that route.

 

On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 at 12:01, Farah Jack Mustaklem  wrote:

Thanks for the amazing work!

If I can be of any help on the ground in Exeter please let me know.

 

 

On Tue, Jan 17, 2023, 16:48 Richard Nevell  
wrote:

Hello all,

 

Last month the Royal Albert Memorial Museum   
approached Wikimedia UK for help sharing images. As part of our Connected 
Heritage   project we're helping 
cultural heritage professionals improve their digital skills and share content 
on Wikimedia sites and helping some of their staff learn how to use Pattypan 
fits pretty nicely with that.

 

Yesterday, RAMM and WMUK worked together to share a few dozen public domain 
images from their collection: 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_Royal_Albert_Memorial_Museum_and_Art_Gallery

 

My personal favourite is the painting of the monumental East Gate 
  in 
the city wall. It might be controversial, but its eye catching colour just 
edges ahead of the line drawing of the castle for me.

 

If anyone feels like adding them to articles, you're welcome to get stuck in 
and every edit will help. We've set up tracking on BaGLAMa and are hoping to 
use the tool to show to other museums in the region the benefits of sharing 
stuff on Commons.


 

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[Wikimediauk-l] Re: Photography for London Wikimania this weekend

[Rod Ward]

Hi Katie,

 

I can do some if needed.

 

Rod

 

From: Katie Crampton [mailto:katie.cramp...@wikimedia.org.uk] 
Sent: 10 August 2022 09:53
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Photography for London Wikimania this weekend

 

Hi all

 

It's Wikimania this weekend, and we'll be doing the UK community festival in 
Newspeak House in Bethnal Green on Friday and Saturday (sign up here 
 )

 

Would anybody like to volunteer to take photographs? We have the camera 
equipment so no need to bring your own.

 

Best

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[Wikimediauk-l] Re: Issues with IT infrastructure

[Rod Ward]

Hi Sam,

 

Natasha Iles has recently been leading some working looking at the Wikimedia UK 
wiki and may be able to provide some further information.

 

Rod

 

From: Sam [mailto:s...@theresnotime.co.uk] 
Sent: 05 October 2021 13:21
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Issues with IT infrastructure

 

Hi all,

 

For those who don't know me, I'm Sam (User:TheresNoTime 
 ). I’m a software developer 
from the south of the UK, and I’ve been on Wikimedia projects since 2008-ish. 

 

I'm also an admin on your wiki, from when I implemented some edit filters to 
combat spam in 2017.

I popped in today and noticed that the extension seems to have been removed 
(https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Special:Version), and that you’re running a 
version of MediaWiki which has recently gone “end-of-life 
 ”. 

 

I guessed that your infrastructure would be logged somewhere (likely at 
https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/IT_Development), but it seems a lot has either 
moved or is down...?

 

· https://scm.wikimedia.org.uk

· https://rt.wikimedia.org.uk

· https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org.uk

· https://monitor.wikimedia.org.uk

· https://moodle.wikimedia.org.uk

· etc.

 

It doesn’t appear 
(https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/search/query/TWI5JrhUTA3W/) as though you 
have a phabricator project.

 

Is there any more up to date information available, and/or is there anything I 
can do to help? 

 

 

 

Kind regards,

 

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[Wikimediauk-l] Re: Wikimedia UK website images - Volunteer Opportunity

[Rod Ward]

Hi Natasha,

 

I could help with a some of these & have sent the “request edit permission 
notice” – without this none of the volunteers will be able to contribute.

 

Rod

 

From: Natasha Iles [mailto:natasha.i...@wikimedia.org.uk] 
Sent: 23 June 2021 09:39
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Re: Wikimedia UK website images - Volunteer Opportunity

 

Thanks Deryck

 

We did think about that suggestion. I'm very happy if a group wants to work on 
it together or set a challenge between them.

 

Let me know if you're up to the challenge!

 

Natasha 

 

 

 

On Wed, 23 Jun 2021 at 09:20, Deryck Chan  wrote:

Dear Natasha,

 

Thanks for the challenge. If you change the Google Spreadsheet to "guests can 
suggest edits" you might get the best crowd-sourced alt texts and captions 
(we're Wikimedians after all)!

 

--Deryck

 

On Wed, 23 Jun 2021 at 09:14, Natasha Iles  
wrote:

Dear all

 

We are currently in the process of finalising the new Wikimedia UK website 
 . One aspect where we really need your support 
is gathering and updating image captions and adding alternative text, 
especially to historic blog entries.

 

Jo has created a spreadsheet to identify what is required for each image. This  
will allow us to import captions and alt. text back into Wordpress, once the 
information is updated. In total there are 555 images with differing needs of 
information. 

 

Here is a view only copy so you can get an idea of what input is needed:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Qo93OzIcButnKBW_YZ43cU7_WcqvhJVTWVKlQuu2INQ/edit#gid=2111654499

 

Please email me if you can volunteer some of your time and expertise in the 
next few weeks, your support will really speed up the launch of the website. 

 

Best wishes

 

Natasha 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Enforcement of the Universal Code of Conduct

[Rod Ward]

Hi Lucy,

 

I note in some of the discussions on this that a sentence is being added and 
then removed along the lines of “The code has been adopted by the foundation 
but not by the community”.

 

Rod

 

From: Wikimediauk-l [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On 
Behalf Of Lucy Crompton-Reid
Sent: 24 March 2021 13:55
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Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Enforcement of the Universal Code of Conduct

 

Hi everyone

 

I just wanted to remind you all that the Wikimedia Foundation is currently 
running a survey 

  about enforcement pathways for the Universal Code of Conduct. We have 
discussed this within the staff and board of the chapter but all community 
members are welcome to respond individually.

 

It may be worth noting here that the Foundation is currently recruiting for 
volunteer members of a committee to draft the enforcement guidelines. There is 
more information about that here 
  
and the deadline for applications is 19th April.

 

All best

Lucy

 

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Subject: Survey about the enforcement of the Universal Code of Conduct
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list 

 

Dear all

 

As many of you will be aware, the Wikimedia Foundation board of trustees 
recently ratified the text of the new Universal Code of Conduct and are now 
consulting on the enforcement of the Code. The Trust and Safety team has asked 
me to circulate a survey regarding enforcement pathways, via the message below. 

 

As some of the questions relate to your affiliate's policies and bylaws, I 
thought it might be helpful to share a link to our Safe Space Policy:

 

https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Safe_Space_Policy

 

Please note that when the survey refers to 'members' it does not mean members 
of the charity, but volunteers who are involved in events and other Wikimedia 
UK programme activities. 

 

Any questions, please let me know. I know the team would be keen to hear 
responses as soon as possible but certainly by the end of March. 

 

Best wishes

Lucy

 

===Start of Survey Message ===

 

We would like to invite you to take the following survey. We value your input 
about the UCoC Enforcement Pathways. Thank you for your cooperation: 

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScXmeuAJ718Jzqefxrudc0Z5LxUMgqIm129lDb1turHvyhbNQ/viewform?usp=pp_url

 

Notice: "This survey will be conducted via a third-party service, which may 
subject it to additional terms. For more information on privacy and 
data-handling, see the survey privacy statement < 

 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photography pass for Glastonbury

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Hi John,

 

I have already got a ticket (will be there Tues 25th – Mon 1st) so don’t need 
this one, but will try to take some decent photos to upload to commons. In some 
of the tents etc with variable lighting this can be a bit of a challenge.

 

If there are specific areas, performers etc which are needed let me know.

 

Rod

 

From: Wikimediauk-l [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On 
Behalf Of John Lubbock
Sent: 17 June 2019 11:56
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Photography pass for Glastonbury

 

Hello Wikimedians, I applied for Glastonbury tickets for Wikimedia 
photographers, and our request was initially declined, but Glastonbury got back 
to me yesterday and offered us a ticket to send a photographer. The original 
person who asked me to ask for a ticket for them can no longer attend the dates 
(Wednesday 26 - Sunday 30 June), so I would like to offer Wikimedia members who 
are able to take good quality photos the ticket. We need to tell Glastonbury 
who is going ASAP, so if you would like the spare ticket, please email me today 
if you are a member and have a decent camera to take photos with. Preference 
will be given to people who have experience of submitting quality photos to 
Wikimedia Commons, so please let me know your level of experience as a 
photographer.

 

All the best,

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Communications Coordinator

Wikimedia UK

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Order of Industrial Heroism recipients

[Rod Ward]

Having the extra info (ideally dates of birth & death but any additional  
location etc ) would certainly help with trying to sort out the 80+ links to 
disambig pages it has created. 

Rod

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Behalf Of Charles Matthews
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Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Order of Industrial Heroism recipients


> On 16 May 2019 at 15:57 Andy Mabbett  wrote:
> 
> I have created a list at:
> 
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recipients_of_the_Order_of_Industrial_Heroism
> 
> and would be grateful for help in checking and disambiguating many of
> the blue links.

Thanks, Andy. From a small sample, WP:ONEEVENT will apply to many entries. I'd 
have thought a table was a good idea, since (to take the first on the list) 
Joseph Sloss, a Liverpool docker who stopped a serious fire, might be best 
served by having that on the page.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM

[Rod Ward]

Hi all, 

As a long term member who didn't want to spend the time or money to travel to 
London for the AGM (even with the associated events), I would be in favour of 
some technologically enabled access - however unless there is something 
controversial I happy to trust the trustees (and staff and other members).

Rod

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From: Wikimediauk-l [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On 
Behalf Of Fæ
Sent: 16 July 2017 19:45
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM

Hi Rex,

Hope you are having a relaxed Sunday. A few in-line responses from one of the 
charity's most radical past trustees over a cup of herbal tea
:-)

On 16 July 2017 at 19:01, Rex X  wrote:
> You make many sensible points, Fae, thank you.
>
> Probably the biggest issue for me is whether members are happy with 
> resolutions being passed with little more than 5% of the membership 
> being present in the room when the voting took place.
...

I agree that it is slightly pointless to set an operational target to have more 
than 5% to 10% of members "in the room". However I think most members would 
agree that seeing an active voting membership at yesterday's AGM of just 11% is 
not satisfactory. With 88% of currently paid up members failing to engage in 
any way with the AGM, something looks and feels wrong with how the meeting 
works; or perhaps with who is being targeted for membership in the first place.

I'm fully supportive of increasing membership, I would love to see a target 
membership going over 1,000; in fact when Roger was Chair many years ago we 
were discussing how to realistically reach a target of 2,000, as membership was 
increasing so quickly. However I would want a larger membership to be 
meaningful membership. If other stakeholders want to donate a few pounds, let's 
call it a donation and give them a badge to wear, but let's not encourage them 
to join as members. Having membership targets without an understanding of the 
reasons people are joining, gives the false impression that ramping up 
membership makes the charity more accountable, transparent or better governed 
when it put us in danger of doing the opposite.


> Nevertheless, to address the actual point, would you agree that giving 
> members the easiest possible opportunity to make their opinions heard 
> would be the next best thing to having them physically present? If so, 
> then the point about postal votes is interesting, and perhaps 
> preferable to appointing proxies in some ways, although proxies a 
> least have the opportunity to respond to a debate and to reconsider a 
> decision in the light of such debate. What would be most democratic?

As you recall, during my short time as Chair of the board, we experimented with 
live broadcasts from board meetings and included time is the regular board 
meetings with live questions from members via instant messaging, rather than 
expecting them to be in the room.
It worked, and for the members who joined in it was a lot of fun. It also 
ticked all the boxes for demonstrating that the charity was a leading 
information technology literate organization, and one with openness at the 
heart of its values.

As well as changing the charity's articles to make postal votes possible, 
thereby moving the charity into technology that UK Parliament embraced in 1918, 
I would like to see the charity go further and have live questions at the next 
AGM for the board, using tools like Google Hangout, or IRC. If members were 
able to ask last minute questions remotely, and then vote using a remote system 
such as used by the WMF for its secure votes during board elections, we may 
actually get a lot of interest from members who are several hundred miles away, 
not just those of us who happen to live within easy distance of London and are 
prepared to pay for our own train fares out of our pocket money or pensions. 
Remote engagement will also mean that proxy voting would become almost 
redundant, as members interested in voting will be able to watch the live 
discussion about resolutions, perhaps add their own questions, and listen in on 
the discussions as trustee candidates receive questions from members. Then with 
all that fresh intelligence, make a far more meaningful vote on the day of the 
AGM.

Nothing about all this is all that difficult, nor is it expensive. So long as 
all technology is well tested out a few months before we rely on it for real. 
Perhaps testing can be started later this year by using remote engagement for 
regular board meetings, something we have done before. Along with a review to 
ensure the charity's Articles are made fit for the 21st century, these 
improvements to the charity's engagement with the community and a hike in 
meaningful governance are achievable and realistic long before the 2018 AGM 
gets booked in our diaries.

Thanks,
Fae

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>
>> On 16 July 2017 at 14:33 Fæ  wrote:
>>
>>

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposed election night editathon

[Rod Ward]

I would not be able to be in London but may contribute from home as results 
come in – more likely come online early the following day.

 

I would also agree that this should be onwiki to reach a wider audience. There 
is already some discussion about when “dissolution” actually occurs (1 minute 
past midnight on the night of 3 May) and the edits needed to MPs articles at: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Politics_of_the_United_Kingdom

 

Rod

 

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Sent: 26 April 2017 18:01
To: John Lubbock; UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Proposed election night editathon

 

Hi all,

I would like to make several suggestions:

1.  Checkout the General Election 2015 Editathon wikipedia page 

 : the aim was clearly stated: "We will endeavour to ensure that Wikipedia is 
up to date with the UK General Election 
  results by the 
morning of 8th May." We had a link up with cy-wiki. There is a short video 
about the event and we and sponsorship from Cybersalon and used the basement in 
Development House. This worked well, even though we did have the Green Party 
try and persuade us to move somewhere else, somewhat ineffectively. If such an 
arrangement is to be repeated, the room should be booked soon, and a member of 
staff identified who would be happy to be present for the night. I did this in 
2015, and I must admit it was great fun: a sociable way to stay up all night on 
election night and to contribute towards the sum of "the sum of all human 
knowledge"! There is little point in seeing it as a "training event" as those 
present were generally all experienced editors. But we did basically succeed 
with our aim, even if early birds coming on line the next morning also made an 
important contribution. I would be interested in being involved ifsomeone could 
arrange a venue and some support re snacks pizza etc.
2.  As regards any event before hand, it would seem useful to check the 
timetable 
 
. As 11 may is the deadline for the delivery of candidate nomination papers, it 
would make sense to have any event after this.
3.  We should keep in touch with people who already have built up 
experience working on UK elections. I know I found Bondegezou 
  very helpful back in 2015.
4.  At the risk of sounding hopelessly old-fashioned, it would seem to me 
be a good idea to move as much of this discussion onto Wikipedia itself as 
possible, to see how any event which is organised can best fit in with the 
existing activities of the community.

all the best,

 

Fabian Tompsett,

aka Leutha

 

 

On 24 April 2017 at 11:42 John Lubbock  wrote:

I think we should do one before. I suggested Sunday 7th May, and Ed has
said we can use Newspeak House. So we need a trainer now. Anyone keen?

John

On 24 April 2017 at 08:33, Gordon Joly  wrote:

On 21/04/17 18:15, John Lubbock wrote:

What about if we simply did a politics themed editathon after the
election when the results had come in and we had something to work with?

With NPOV of course!

Gordo

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK communications strategy

[Rod Ward]

Hi Lucy,

 

You invited comments on the communications strategy, so a few comments:

 

You say “we are perhaps not drawing on these volunteers to their full 
potential.” – I would certainly agree with that – recently when a wp article 
about a major local city was to appear on the front page for 24 hrs I put 
together something for local papers and asked if Wikimedia UK had some 
boilerplate text with “contact details” “information for editors etc” to wrap 
around the local interest, I was told that there wasn’t anything like that 
available. In relation to a recent completion (The West Country Challenge for 
which Wikimedia UK agreed to pay for some book tokens as prizes) I was again 
asked to get some coverage in local papers etc and although I tried through 
local contacts no editor carried it.

 

I am unsure what is meant by “relatively conservative volunteer and editor 
community for whom certain communications approaches might not be supported”. 
You suggest –“It’s important to note that some individual volunteers will have 
a greater level of influence than others because of their role on the charity’s 
board or evaluation panel.” The wide range of backgrounds and experience of 
some volunteers and members should also be considered and they may have 
“influence” unconnected with Wikimedia activities. We know that the educational 
level of wp editors tends to be higher than in the general population (& they 
are tech savvy) and many hold fairly high level positions in their “day jobs” 
as well as editing wp as a hobby. This could link with the strategic goals: “to 
Support the development of open knowledge in the UK, by increasing the 
understanding and recognition of the value of open knowledge and advocating for 
change at an organisational, sectoral and public policy level” and “To support 
the use of the Wikimedia projects as important tools for education and learning 
in the UK”. Many editors are also teachers in schools and universities, or in 
similar “positions of influence” and this does not seem to be recognised in 
Wikimedia UK activities – although many volunteers may want to keep the roles 
separate.

 

The challenges of traditional “print media” are many and varied, however my 
experience, and advice from media colleagues, is that there is an inbuilt bias 
against “internet stories” whether local, national or international, and this 
can be a challenge to overcome. It would be helped by “boilerplate text” being 
available for volunteers etc to include.

 

To reach new audiences via Twitter/facebook etc it would be helped by some 
“standard messages” – for example if I see a picture posted by a friend on 
facebook I rewrite each time something which says “Nice picture – would you be 
willing to share on wikicommons” and then with various levels of guidance about 
CC licencing etc.

 

For “newsjacking” key anniversaries can be useful – a campaign to get the wp 
article Magna Carta as TFA on its 800th anniversary (15 June 2015) was not 
successful, however the page had approximately 600,000  views that day and over 
1,194,000 views in the 90 days surrounding it (normally 6-10,000 per day). This 
sort of thing, which gets national media coverage could be included in the 
strategy.

 

For the newsletter & or blog etc there could be a write up of the recent West 
Country Challenge 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_England/The_West_Country_Challenge
 ) which created or improved over 500 articles about topics related to the 
seven counties in the south  west of England in a few weeks- and promoting the 
contests and challenges aimed to contribute to The 10,000 challenge  (see 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_10,000_Challenge   ) (all invented 
by User:Dr Blofeld). Sometimes Wikimedia does not seem to be aware of some of 
the activities going on among the wider UK editing community and this could be 
seen as a weakness linked to the communication strategy.

 

I hope the se comments are useful

 

Rod

 

 

From: Wikimediauk-l [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On 
Behalf Of Lucy Crompton-Reid
Sent: 16 September 2016 14:49
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list 
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK communications strategy

 

Hi there, I hope you're well and have had a good summer?

 

Here's the link to the draft strategy - thanks in advance for taking a look:

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/18JpwM1KexeyUP4-25eORa26wK-msvZgEkUUQp0KeQ8k/edit?usp=sharing

 

Feel free to add comments directly to the document or email me with feedback. 

 

Best

Lucy

 

On 16 September 2016 at 14:12, Ed Hand  > wrote:

Dear Lucy

Yes please, I would love a copy of the draft communications strategy.

best wishes

Edward Hands

 

On 16 September 2016 at 11:41, Lucy Crompton-Reid 
 > wrote:

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ? template press release for local press

[Rod Ward]

Thanks,

 

Sorry I should have said “Todays’ Featured Article” (TFA), some of which get 
hundreds of thousands of page views in a 24 hour period. I was hoping to use it 
to encourage others in the local area to get involved.

 

I’ve drafted the attached & I’d welcome any suggestions for improvement, 
copyediting etc. I would be hoping to send this out to local media 7-10 days 
before the significant date.

 

Rod

 

From: Wikimediauk-l [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On 
Behalf Of Katherine Bavage
Sent: 18 February 2016 13:40
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] ? template press release for local press

 

Ahah! Somewhat better than the DYK I scored once!

 

This is awesome. Rod I'm happy to help with drafting a press release if you 
want? Also make sure you get WMUK to share on twitter as tbh thats where a lot 
of journos pick things up when they're trying to put together web or broadcast 
items of interest for the afternoon

 

:)

 

On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 at 11:13 Richard Nevell <richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk> 
wrote:

Hello,

 

I'm not aware of such a press release, but I'll ask round the office.

 

TFA stands for Today's Featured Article. Each day the front page has a 
different article which has gone through Wikipedia's review processes and has 
been assessed as one of its best articles. You can spot Featured Articles by 
the little bronze star in the top right hand corner of the article.

 

When articles appear on the front page they typically see a big spike in reader 
numbers. So yesterday's TFA was seen by 37,000 people 
<https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/#start=2016-01-29=2016-02-17=en.wikipedia.org=all-access=user=Myles_Standish>
  compared to its usual level of 250 
<https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/#start=2016-01-28=2016-02-16=en.wikipedia.org=all-access=user=Myles_Standish>
 . TFA is the top left section on desktop view, and the first thing you see 
after the search option on mobile.

 

Richard

 

On 18 February 2016 at 10:51, Katherine Bavage <katherine.bav...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

PS If NOT happy to work with people on the UK wiki to draft something :)

 

On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 at 10:50 Katherine Bavage <katherine.bav...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Pardon my ignorance - what's TFA? 

 

However, I echo the question as would be handy for the Leeds Art+Feminism event

 

On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 at 10:25 Rod Ward <r...@rodspace.co.uk> wrote:

Does anyone have a “template” press release they have used for the local press?

Bristol will be TFA on 7 March and I wondered if it would be worth putting out 
a press release to local papers etc to encourage more people to edit.

Rod

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[Wikimediauk-l] ? template press release for local press

[Rod Ward]

Does anyone have a "template" press release they have used for the local
press?

Bristol will be TFA on 7 March and I wondered if it would be worth putting
out a press release to local papers etc to encourage more people to edit.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Village, Hamlet and populations ...

[Rod Ward]

Lester,

I don't think defining hamlet v village by size of population is useful. Hamlet 
(place) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamlet_(place)#United_Kingdom ) under UK 
explores the difference the difference between civil parish and ecclesiastical 
parish and uses the traditional "settlement without a church".

Another complication is the division between village and town (complicated by 
legislation allowing parish councils to adopt the term town council). An 
example local to me is the ongoing debate (slow edit war) between Cheddar, 
Somerset a village with a population of 5,755 and Axbridge a town with a 
population of 2,057.

Rod

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Sent: 14 September 2015 00:16
To: talk...@openstreetmap.org; UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Village, Hamlet and populations ...

I'm currently working around the area trying to get all the local places cross 
referenced properly. I've got The 2012 Index of Places from the ONS which has a 
supposedly complete set of places, but I've been hitting a number of problems 
which I think I've finally sussed.

The OSM wiki defines 'hamlet' as less than 100-200 people, but village 
supposedly starts at 1000 up to 1 with the proviso that it depends on the 
country. Ideally the two would perhaps meet :) We are perhaps looking at a 
population of around 8000 for a town designation in the UK, but anything down 
to 100 is still classified as a village by the ONS.
What are actually missing from the OSN data are ANY hamlets despite their 
claiming to include them.

My first exercise was to add links on the OSM data to the wikipedia entry for 
each village, and there is a small list of miss matches which I'm trying to 
sort out. However when cross referencing the population data reported by 
wikipedia quoting the 2011 census, but what that fails to account for is that 
only provides totals for the whole parish, which may have more than one 
hamlet/village. The IOP data contains the 'BUA'
population for the villages, but omits the rest of the hamlets that make up the 
parish/ward.

The IOP data is released under the Open Government Licence V2 so I see no 
problem using it in OSM or Wikipedia? I think what we are still looking for is 
a consistent list of hamlets to work from to fill in the gaps? The IOP data was 
supposed to be updated annually, but it seems only annual updates are currently 
being generated.

To add to the fun, the six digit codes I've been using for LLPG data for many 
years have been replaced by a 9 digit code. While the 6 digit code had a nice 
three level structure, the 9 digit code has lost the third layer, but these 
still only go down to the ward/parish level. There is still no ID for the 
town/village :(

And Scotland and Northern Ireland are separate data sets ...

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Getting back in ...

[Rod Ward]

Fae,

 

If county level lists can be created from the list, I would offer to create 
articles (or more likely redirects) for all the tiny hamlets etc left as red 
links for the county of Somerset. I wonder of others (perhaps via county 
wikiprojects) would do those for other counties?

 

Rod

 

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Sent: 13 September 2015 04:32
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Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Getting back in ...

 


On 12 Sep 2015 10:09 pm, "Rod Ward"
...
> I have asked whether it is possible to extract all of the locations in a 
> county from this list, but, to the best of my knowledge, no one has ever 
> worked out a way to do this.
...

This can be done. On Conmons I have used the Ordnance Survey data set to return 
a UK county (or administrative level equivalent) given a geocoordinate.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Getting back in ...

[Rod Ward]

Lester,
Good luck with your project.

For a big list of UK locations you might like to look at 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Kingdom_locations which still 
includes thousands of redlinks.

I have asked whether it is possible to extract all of the locations in a county 
from this list, but, to the best of my knowledge, no one has ever worked out a 
way to do this.

Rod

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Sent: 12 September 2015 21:20
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Getting back in ...

I've been going around in circles on software and not been getting any real 
content created for the last few years, so I've decided to ignore the problems 
and just get on with material. My starting point is OSM, and I've been adding 
links from places in wikipedia to their entry in OSM. For places read 
county/borough/city/town/village/hamlet/suburb, the last four of which Facebook 
lump under 'city' and make a complete mess of things.

Plan off attack is to make sure all the places locally exist in wikipedia and I 
sort of got off to a good start, but hit a problem with miss matched names and 
missing entries. I've modified 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weston_Subedge_railway_station to use the correct 
name for the period the railway existed, but there was no page for 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weston_Sub_Edge which I've created by cribbing 
other local villages. My crib sheet of names lists 'Weston Subedge' as taken 
from the ONS list but I'm waiting on some feed back from the Parish Clerk as to 
the 'official' spelling nowadays.

I've extended https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aston-sub-Edge to include it's 
information box.

There is room for more work and additional links to other material, but 
basically ... am I on the right line. I'm planning to spiral out, and have a 
small list of missing village and hamlets to add to wikipedia and I'm cross 
checking everything against my other lists.

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[Wikimediauk-l] Exeter workshop this Weds 15th July

[Rod Ward]

Hi all,

This Wednesday (15th July) I will be doing (with help from Andy Dingley) a
workshop at the University of Exeter for web and comms staff from several
universities - see https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Exeter_University_July_2015
for details.

I will try to add to that page the usernames of participants and any
articles edited during the day. If anyone had any time and could help to
monitor, advise and guide the participants remotely that would be great.

Rod
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[Wikimediauk-l] Wiki From Above 2015

[Rod Ward]

I noticed an item in the latest signpost to Wiki From Above 2015
(http://wikimedia.org.za/wiki/Wiki_From_Above_2015 ) and wondered if there
were plans for anything similar in the UK?

Rod
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedian in Residence, Thinktank, Birmingham

[Rod Ward]

Andy,

Sounds like another interesting role.

Is there a relationship between Thinktank and At-Bristol (see 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-Bristol )? Would it be an opportunity to 
encourage them to consider to go down a similar road?

Rod

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Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedian in Residence, Thinktank, Birmingham

[Cross posted; please check which list you're replying to

Today is my first day as Wikipedian in Residence at Thinktank Birmingham 
Science Museum, part of Birmingham Museums Trust:

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinktank,_Birmingham

I have a project page up at:

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Thinktank

and will have more info there soon.

We'll be running two editathons/ backstage pass events, in the coming weeks.

(FYI, I remain Wikimedian in Residence at the Royal Society of Chemistry and 
Wikipedian in Residence at ORCID)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Magna Carta

[Rod Ward]

Thanks for the videos – have just included one in the article.

 


Working on the linked pages would also be useful – both the 
abbots/bishops/barons (NB not “signatories”) and the settings  (improvements to 
Runnymede have already been requested) and some of the legal revisions along 
with later effects or interpretation. Lots of the bulleted lists of “clauses in 
one charter but not another” also need to be tackled (and referenced).


Any further help appreciated.


Rod


 


 

 

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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Richard 
Farmbrough
Sent: 07 November 2014 19:50
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Magna Carta

 

There will be less demanding work, for example the signatories articles maybe 
could do with work.   I just linked to [[Abbott of Peterborough]], only a few  
of those abbots have any biographical details - VCH will supply plenty of 
useful information, typically more on the latter abbots. 

 

On 7 November 2014 00:11, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:

I have uploaded a few presentations and talks on video which would
cheer up Magna Carta articles, some are quite 'non-academic friendly'
for readers who might be daunted by a long encyclopaedia article
(videos play back without having to leave a Wikipedia article). They
are currently in
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Magna_Carta but will
probably be moved to a sub-category in a while. The lectures might be
helpful for those thinking of improving articles and are looking for a
quick guide to issues and interpretations.

Of particular interest are a video from the British Library
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Four_surviving_Magna_Carta_to_be_brought_together_for_the_first_time_in_history.webm
and a friendly one from Parliament
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Magna_Carta_and_the_Emergence_of_Parliament.webm.

These are uploaded thanks to a YouTube download/upload script I put
together for a WikiprojectMed request. If there are others on YouTube
you find with a CC-BY licence, drop me a link by email and I'll get
around to taking a look. Unfortunately handling video remains a
challenge for contributors, so I think my uploads are the first videos
on Commons for this topic.

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[Wikimediauk-l] Magna Carta

[Rod Ward]

Hi all,

 

An article in this weeks observer (see 
http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/nov/01/magna-carta-800-celebrates-anniversary
 ) points out that it will be the 800th anniversary of the signing of the Magna 
Carta next year (15 June 2015) and suggests there will be various TV and radio 
programmes (and books etc) to coincide with the significant date. I note this 
article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta ) regularly gets 150,000+ 
page views per month and this is likely to increase. It was listed as a Good 
Article back in the early days but was delisted in 2006 and has gone downhill 
since then. It is also listed on the Vital Articles for Society and Social 
Sciences. A few of us are trying to get it to at least GA or even FA standard 
before the anniversary – any help would be appreciated.

 

The specific reason for this email is that I think WikimediaUK had some sort of 
relationship (possibly a wikimedian in residence or similar) with the British 
Library years ago. For that or other sources does anyone have a contact within 
the appropriate department (possibly manuscripts curator or similar) of the BL 
who would be willing to help advise on the development of this important 
article?

 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Rating Wikimedia content (was Our next, strategy plan-Paid editing)

[Rod Ward]

Many projects have installed a “popular pages” tool highlighting which of the 
pages with the talk page banner are most popular. It is updated monthly (ish) 
see for example 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Somerset/Popular_pages  so 
the toolserver tool at https://toolserver.org/~alexz/pop/ may also be useful.

 

On a more general point can I just ask why an automated tool (using all the 
suggested parameters) is likely to be any more accurate that the human 
generated wikiproject rankings?

 

Rod

 

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Sent: 17 April 2014 14:48
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Rating Wikimedia content (was Our next, strategy 
plan-Paid editing)

 

It's interesting to think that in most circumstances, good online content is 
considered to drive traffic, i.e. quality pages attract more views, but with 
Wikipedia articles, I've only ever seen people think high traffic articles = 
more editors = higher quality. This is intuitive, but it would be interesting 
to see how true it is. It would also be interesting to see what percentage of 
readers are editors by topic area; I suspect this would vary a lot.

 

I always find it a bit of a shame that viewership figures are hidden away in an 
unpublicised tool (https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikiviewstats/). I would have 
though seeing how many people view a page would be very motivating to editors, 
and perhaps could be displayed prominently e.g. on talk pages.




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On 17 April 2014 14:34, Simon Knight sjgkni...@gmail.com wrote:

I think we’d want to distinguish between:

· Quality – taken from diff-features (i.e. Writing, but possibly 
including Sources), and 

· Significance – taken from Traffic, Edit History, and Discussion

 

The latter might be used to give a weighting to the high-significance ratings 
such that high quality edits on highly significant articles are rated higher, 
but that’s a secondary question.

 

You’re right that then there’s an interesting issue re: what’s output, and how 
this is used. In this case our primary interest is in getting a feel for what 
level of quality the quantity of WMUK related edits are. One can easily imagine 
that being used by other chapters/orgs within the movement, but it could of 
course also be spread outside of article writing (e.g. any education assignment 
on a wiki) or/and be used by projects to explore article qualities. I would 
guess that outputting discrete scores for various things (e.g. ‘referencing’, 
‘organisation’, etc.) and providing some means to amalgamate those scores for 
an overview would be more useful than just a raw ‘score’/rating. I’ll think 
about this a bit more over the weekend I hope.

 

Cheers

S

 

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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of John Byrne
Sent: 17 April 2014 13:46
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Rating Wikimedia content (was Our next, strategy 
plan-Paid editing)

 

I must say I'm pretty dubious about this approach for articles.  I doubt it can 
detect most of the typical problems with them - for example all-online sources 
are 
very often a warning sign, but may not be, or may be inevitable in a topical 
subject.  Most of Charles' factors below relate better to views and 
controversialness than article quality, and 
article quality has a limited ability to increase views, as study of FAs before 
and after expansion will show. 

Personally I'd think the lack of 1 to say 4 dominant editors in the stats is a 
more reliable warning sign than A single editor, or essentially only one 
editor with
tweaking in most subjects.  Nothing is more characteristic of a popular but 
poor article than a huge list of contributors, all with fewer than 10 edits.  
Sadly, the implied notion (at T for Traffic below) that fairly high views 
automatically lead to increased quality is very dubious - we have plenty of 
extremely bad  articles that have had by now millions of viewers who have 
between them done next to nothing to improve the now-ancient text. 

There is also the question of what use the results of the exercise will be.  
Our current quality ratings certainly have problems, but are a lot better than 
nothing.  However the areas where systematic work seems to be going on 
improving the lowest rated articles, in combination with high importance 
ratings,  are relatively few.   An automated system is hard to argue with,  
I'm concerned that such ratings will actually 
cause more problems than they reveal or solve, if people take them more 

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] English Heritage list

[Rod Ward]

Good idea - can we have the registered parks and gardens as well - in fact
everything on the National Heritage List!

 

Rod

 

From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of geni
Sent: 29 December 2013 16:40
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] English Heritage list

 

 

 

On 29 December 2013 13:08, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

I've asked the Open Data User Group to see whether we can get the text
of English Heritage listing designations, like:

   http://list.english-heritage.org.uk/resultsingle.aspx?uid=1334382

released under the Open Government licence; and as linked open data.

 

Hmm might be worth trying the for the Scheduled Monuments stuff at the same
time.


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wlm2013-l] Lists of UK listed buildings

[Rod Ward]

Hi Katie,

 

This looks as if you have done a tremendous amount of work.

 

However I have some questions..

When I created
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_I_listed_buildings_in_Somerset and its 7
sub lists I was asked How many listed buildings are there as part of
various review processes -  even having studied all the source I can find
for year I can mot answer that. In Bath whole streets (of 30-50 buildings)
can be under one listing and yet in other examples the house may be one
listing, the walls several more and the fountain a listing on its own.
Therefore what figure should be put in the first number column on the
tracking table?

 

 

If a list created some years ago (eg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_I_listed_buildings_in_South_Somerset) has
references for each one which use Images of England, and was completed
before the National heritage list was available are you asking for an extra
column to be added with the NHLE Unique ID number?

 

Do we need to include columns for architect and date list?

 

Rod

 

 

From: wlm2013-l-boun...@wikimedia.org.uk
[mailto:wlm2013-l-boun...@wikimedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Katie Chan
Sent: 19 June 2013 15:11
To: WLM 2013 UK mailing list
Cc: Wikimediauk-l
Subject: [Wlm2013-l] Lists of UK listed buildings

 

Hi all,

 

One of the task that needs to be completed for WLM to happen is to have
exhaustive lists of all eligible listed buildings on Wikipedia, using
appropriately formed templates instead of wiki tables directly. To get
everyone going, I have created the templates[1], which everyone is of course
encouraged to improve.

 

In terms of the actual lists themselves, I have created a tracking table[2]
so that everyone can see where we are and where work needs to be done. All
the columns should be fairly self explanatory, aside from the one on images
which is intended to track when someone has searched through Commons 
Wikipedia for existing images and added them to the respective list.

Except for Wales, where lists didn't exist before, you can navigate to the
existing lists from [3]. As you can see, I have made a start on at least one
counties per countries so that everyone can see what I envisage them looking
like[4]. You can find a copy of the source data for England[5], Wales[6],
Scotland[7] and Northern Ireland[8] at the respective links provided.
There's also PHP scripts for manipulation of geo-coordinates
(latitude/longitude) to[9] and from[10] OS grid references, and also one for
conversion between WGS-84 datum (as used by GPS) and OSGB-36 datum (as used
by the Ordnance Survey)[11]. They may come in useful for manipulation of the
source data when creating the lists.

I should say here that the English list is brand new courtesy of English
Heritage who have recently completed a review of their licensing and
released the information where they previously declined to!

 

Aside from making WLM happen, completing these lists would improve a lot of
the existing lists on Wikipedia or create new ones where they didn't exist
before. This is something that can be done by everyone as time permits,
whether that is mass converting the source data into templated lists, a few
minutes spent looking for existing images and adding them to a list, or
copyediting the generated list.

 

Plese contribute when and where you can!

 

Katie

 

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/Template:EH_listed_building_header,
https://en.wikipedia.org/Template:EH_listed_building_row,
https://en.wikipedia.org/Template:Cadw_listed_building_header,
https://en.wikipedia.org/Template:Cadw_listed_building_row,
https://en.wikipedia.org/HS_listed_building_header,
https://en.wikipedia.org/Template:HS_listed_building_row,
https://en.wikipedia.org/Template:NIEA_listed_building_header,
https://en.wikipedia.org/Template:NIEA_listed_building_row.

[2]:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013_in_the
_United_Kingdom/planning/lists

[3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listed_buildings_in_the_United_Kingdom

[4]:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_I_listed_buildings_in_Isle_of_Wight,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_I_listed_buildings_in_Bridgend,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Category_A_listed_buildings_in_East_R
enfrewshire,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Grade_A_listed_buildings_in_County_Fe
rmanagh

[5]:https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org.uk/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnePnsp
ksYOidG1DXzhscDFFSHFZOTNSd0NGakJNNlE#gid=0,
https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org.uk/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnePnspksYO
idG5MMU1lM0RwemZ1bmVVUnRyT3g0MGc#gid=0,
http://data.gov.uk/data-requests/list-of-grade-i-and-ii-listed-buildings-in
-england

[6]:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3ePnspksYOiV2YzSTlpNXFvc28/edit?usp=sharin
g,
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3ePnspksYOiN2VMbzFHcTk1SWM/edit?usp=sharin
g, https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/listed_buildings_in_wales

[7]:
https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org.uk/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnePnspksYO

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wlm2013-l] Lists of UK listed buildings

[Rod Ward]

Hi Katie,

 

Thanks - I guess I will be going through the Somerset ones when I get some
time.

 

Does it matter that a county (ie Somerset) has too many entries to fit on
one list?

 

Rod

 

From: Katie Chan [mailto:katie.c...@wikimedia.org.uk] 
Sent: 19 June 2013 17:21
To: Rod Ward
Cc: WLM 2013 UK mailing list; Wikimediauk-l
Subject: Re: [Wlm2013-l] Lists of UK listed buildings

 

Unless as a research project, someone go through every entries to see what
each particular listing covers and count manually, no one have the answer to
how many independent buildings or structures are listed. That's why the
heritage organisations talks about listed building entries instead, which is
also how I counted Scotland, Wales  Northern Ireland.

 

The template for England is particular crude and in need of improvement. The
headers are chosen based on what headers are on the various existing lists
so that changing to templates don't lose us any existing information. Some
of the headers, such as architect and date listed could probably do with
being made optional. I'll see about doing that unless someone beat me to it.
The UID (or HB number) field is essential for WLM as tagging an upload with
that is how we know an upload on Commons is eligible for the competition so
yes, that would need to be added. With the number, we can also link directly
to each individual entries page on English Heritage (likewise for Scotland 
Northern Ireland), instead of say Images of England or some other website.
The templates don't actually currently have a separate column for references
as I was having a little problem with making template variables work inside
a ref tag. I guess the solution will be having to do it manually. Again,
unless someone beat me to it, I'll add that sometime.

 

Katie

 

On 19 June 2013 16:12, Rod Ward r...@rodspace.co.uk wrote:

Hi Katie,

 

This looks as if you have done a tremendous amount of work.

 

However I have some questions..

When I created
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_I_listed_buildings_in_Somerset and its 7
sub lists I was asked How many listed buildings are there as part of
various review processes -  even having studied all the source I can find
for year I can mot answer that. In Bath whole streets (of 30-50 buildings)
can be under one listing and yet in other examples the house may be one
listing, the walls several more and the fountain a listing on its own.
Therefore what figure should be put in the first number column on the
tracking table?

 

 

If a list created some years ago (eg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_I_listed_buildings_in_South_Somerset) has
references for each one which use Images of England, and was completed
before the National heritage list was available are you asking for an extra
column to be added with the NHLE Unique ID number?

 

Do we need to include columns for architect and date list?

 

Rod

 

 

From: wlm2013-l-boun...@wikimedia.org.uk
[mailto:wlm2013-l-boun...@wikimedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Katie Chan
Sent: 19 June 2013 15:11
To: WLM 2013 UK mailing list
Cc: Wikimediauk-l
Subject: [Wlm2013-l] Lists of UK listed buildings

 

Hi all,

 

One of the task that needs to be completed for WLM to happen is to have
exhaustive lists of all eligible listed buildings on Wikipedia, using
appropriately formed templates instead of wiki tables directly. To get
everyone going, I have created the templates[1], which everyone is of course
encouraged to improve.

 

In terms of the actual lists themselves, I have created a tracking table[2]
so that everyone can see where we are and where work needs to be done. All
the columns should be fairly self explanatory, aside from the one on images
which is intended to track when someone has searched through Commons 
Wikipedia for existing images and added them to the respective list.

Except for Wales, where lists didn't exist before, you can navigate to the
existing lists from [3]. As you can see, I have made a start on at least one
counties per countries so that everyone can see what I envisage them looking
like[4]. You can find a copy of the source data for England[5], Wales[6],
Scotland[7] and Northern Ireland[8] at the respective links provided.
There's also PHP scripts for manipulation of geo-coordinates
(latitude/longitude) to[9] and from[10] OS grid references, and also one for
conversion between WGS-84 datum (as used by GPS) and OSGB-36 datum (as used
by the Ordnance Survey)[11]. They may come in useful for manipulation of the
source data when creating the lists.

I should say here that the English list is brand new courtesy of English
Heritage who have recently completed a review of their licensing and
released the information where they previously declined to!

 

Aside from making WLM happen, completing these lists would improve a lot of
the existing lists on Wikipedia or create new ones where they didn't exist
before. This is something that can be done by everyone as time permits,
whether that is mass

[Wikimediauk-l] Today on the Guardian Blog Should university students use Wikipedia?

[Rod Ward]

There is a discussion on the Guardian blog today entitled - Should
university students use Wikipedia? 


At
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2013/may/13/should-university-students-u
se-wikipedia


 


Could anyone else interested take a look at the discussion in the comments
section - as some interesting viewpoints about wp are being raised.


Rod


 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Rod Ward]

I would agree about the difficulty of getting access to local sources
(although I might have a go at Monmouth Castle which deserves a better
article than it has got), but I wondered how broadly Monmouthpedia is being
interpreted?

The Monmouth Rebellion is relevant to my neck of the woods - but probably
not that significant for the town - would that be included?

Rod


The problem you hit rather quickly is that while it is fairly easy to
write local history about your local area (your local library will
have sources) writing local history about a more distant place is far
more difficult. Monmouth Archaeological Society also appears to have a
fairly limited set of publications which is a pity since local
Archaeological Societies are usually a fairly good of material for
articles.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

[Rod Ward]

Ø  Monmouth Castle - Go for it!

 

The castle article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monmouth_Castle has a bit
of an expansion – but could do with more from others.

I did have a problem getting the Monmouthshire map to work in the infobox so
it currently has the Wales map instead.

 

I also came across the article for the Great Castle House
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Castle_House) which hadn’t been tagged
for Monmouthpedia so there may be other relevant articles still to be
spotted.

 

Rod

 

From: Roger Bamkin [mailto:victuall...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 31 December 2011 11:33
To: r...@rodspace.co.uk; wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Cc: john cummings
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Monmouthpedia

 

Great to see this interest! I also have editors ready to translate when we
have some improved articles.

We have the Archaeological Society signed up. They tell me that we can
have the lot - they are convinced that CC by SA beats (c) 2011.. 

I've included John on the list to make sure he knows and he can hopefully
forward the requests. I know its not very easy but it is possible.
 As far as interpretation goes. Derby Museum used the rule that if the
article had a link then it was relevant. So a bio of an artist who cad stuff
in [[Derby Museum]] was relevant

So I think the rebellion is named after the Duke of Monmouth - ie tricky to
link to [[Monmouth, Wales]]

John is looking for someone who can do some grome-ish stuff. He wants to
allow editors to claim points for writing articles. There is a proven system
at the GLAM/Derby page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Derby/Multilingual_Challenge .
Does someone fancy moving the important bits to the MonmouthpediA page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/MonmouthpediA  and zeroing
everything so we are ready to allow editors to claim points etc.???

Armoured Car, and Ship - Yes we should be able to link the QR codes
Monmouth Castle - Go for it! 
There are lots of ideas on MonmouthpediA pages. Some are people who may be
local to you in fame but born in Monmouth.

If we can make a new or 5x expanded article then I'll get it on DYK - has to
be done in 5 days

MonmouthpediA is to be on Radio 4 on Tuesday - be nice to say we are getting
into 2nd gear

Thanks for the interest
Happy New Year!
Roger B

On 31 December 2011 09:25, Rod Ward rodw...@plus.net wrote:

I would agree about the difficulty of getting access to local sources
(although I might have a go at Monmouth Castle which deserves a better
article than it has got), but I wondered how broadly Monmouthpedia is being
interpreted?

The Monmouth Rebellion is relevant to my neck of the woods - but probably
not that significant for the town - would that be included?

Rod



The problem you hit rather quickly is that while it is fairly easy to
write local history about your local area (your local library will
have sources) writing local history about a more distant place is far
more difficult. Monmouth Archaeological Society also appears to have a
fairly limited set of publications which is a pity since local
Archaeological Societies are usually a fairly good of material for
articles.

--
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Govt consultation on copyright

[Rod Ward]

Chris,

 

This is an important issues  I would say we should definitely respond.

I would offer to help but family health issues ( a ton of marking for work)
mean I can't give mush time at present.

 

I would suggest CILIP (http://www.cilip.org.uk/ ) in the UK and Creative
Commons (http://creativecommons.org/) more generally as useful organisations
to consult with.

 

Rod

 

 

From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Keating
Sent: 27 December 2011 09:42
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Govt consultation on copyright

 

Dear all,

 

The Government has recently announced a consultation on about changes to
copyright law. This follows a review of the existing arrangements by
Professor Hargreaves over the summer.

 

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/pro-policy/consult/consult-live/consult-2011-copyright
.htm 

 

Do people feel we should respond? (Or to reverse the question, can anyone
see good reasons for us *not* to respond? Just to be clear, charities are
quite allowed to do things like this so long as lobbying doesn't become
their main purpose...)

 

If we are going to respond, who would be interested in helping work on our
response? Do you know other people who we should be working with or talking
to on issues like this?

 

Regards,

 

Chris

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] World Wars project

[Rod Ward]

Andy,

For the War Memorials project - is Roll of Honour at
http://www.roll-of-honour.com/ what you are thinking of?

Rod

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To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] World Wars project

On 17 October 2011 13:24, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all,

 I see from the 2012 activity plan that there's a budget for a World
 Wars project [1]. Is there a leader for this? An online presence?

Isn't there a wiki-style or open-content project somewhere documenting
war memorials and listing the names on them? Maybe we could link up.

If such a project exists, but isn't open-, perhaps we could persuade them to
be?

-- 
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@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Notice of an Extraordinary General Meeting of Wikimedia UK on 16 October 2011 at Pendrel's Oak, Holborn

[Rod Ward]

Mike,

 

I didn’t receive any notification apart from this.

 

Rod

 

From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Michael Peel
Sent: 23 September 2011 19:32
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] Notice of an Extraordinary General Meeting of
Wikimedia UK on 16 October 2011 at Pendrel's Oak, Holborn

 

Hi all,

 

All members of Wikimedia UK should have just received the notice below of
our Extraordinary General Meeting to change our objects in October. If you
haven't received it and think you should have, please let us know. If you're
not a member, then you should join (visit
http://donate.wikimedia.org.uk/join - it's just £5) so you can take part.
;-)

 

Thanks,

Mike

P.S. there was a glitch in the email sending this out, so you might have
received a version with the resolution duplicated several times - apologies
if so! There's only one resolution to vote on at the EGM.

 

---

 

Dear all,

As you know, Wikimedia UK is applying to become a registered charity. This
process is well under way, and involves delicate discussions with the board,
several volunteers, the Charities Commission and WMUK's legal team.

Part of this process involves some changes to Wikimedia UK's 'objects' to
bring them in line with the Charity Commission's view of what a charity is.
Our current objects are outlined at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Objects. In
simple terms, they are a form of 'mission statement', explaining what WMUK
does, and how we do it.

Because the objects are a key part of our constitution, they can only be
changed at a General Meeting of members. As such, we will be holding an
Extraordinary General Meeting on Sunday 16th October 2011 at Pendrel's Oak
Pub, Holborn, London. At this meeting we will be putting forward a special
resolution to change the organisation's Objects, details of which are below.

The official EGM will run from 2pm, and we hope to conclude by 2.45pm. It
will include a summary of the status of our application to become a charity;
voting on the Resolution; and the introduction of our new Chief Exec.

The address of the venue is:

Pendrel's Oak

283-288 High Holborn

Holborn

Greater London

WC1V 7HP

If you will be attending, please let us know by adding your name to the list
of attendees on our wiki http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/EGM_2011#Attendees ,
so that we can make sure we have enough room for everyone.

Resolution #1

The EGM will vote on the following special resolution:

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THAT the Memorandum and Articles of Association of Wiki UK Ltd be altered as
follows:

1.  in accordance with s.28 of the Companies Act 2006, clauses 1 to 6
inclusively of Wiki UK Ltd's Memorandum of Association shall be treated as
provisions of the Wiki UK Ltd's Articles of Association and the said
provisions shall be renumbered M1 to M6 respectively to avoid confusion with
other provisions of the Articles of Association;
2.  by deleting Article M3 (previously Clause 3 of the Memorandum) and
replacing it with the following new Article M3 (subject to such minor
amendments to this Article as the Charity Commission may require for the
purposes of registering Wiki UK Ltd as a charity): 

M3. The Objects of the Charity are, for the benefit of the public, to
promote and support the widest possible public access to, use of and
contribution to Open Content of an encyclopaedic or educational nature or of
similar utility to the general public, in particular the Open Content
supported and provided by Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., based in San
Francisco, California, USA.

“Content” means textual or numerical information, still or moving images,
sound or music or other data disseminated on printed, electronic and other
appropriate media and services. Content is subject to editorial policies and
safeguards designed to ensure its overall accuracy and quality.

Content is Open when it is available for no charge and without
discrimination to the general public, with legal rights to view, copy,
share, adapt, improve and otherwise use and reuse that content and when
technical measures are in place to support such usage.

3.  by replacing the word “Object” with the word “Objects” in all
instances that the word “Object” occurs throughout the Articles of
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4.  by adding the following new Article 29 to the Articles of
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29. These Articles are to be interpreted without reference to the model
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and at any 

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise

[Rod Ward]

I'm always a sucker for peens, mugs, mousemats, t-shirts etc  students even
more so however..

I don't know how feasible it is but could the item (either hardcopy or on
usb stick etc) be customised to be related to the event/venue/organisation
eg if it were a GLAM meeting with WP:Somerset  the Museum of Somerset
(topically as the museums reopens this month  we'd like to do a joint
meeting) then the handouts would include a copy of the current article on
the museum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_of_Somerset) or some of
their exhibits (eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frome_Hoard )  - but with
markup which says citation needed, expand or whatever included. If it
was being held in a town or city then the article for that location could be
used. If a group eg BCS then use
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Computer_Society. If a speaker or
organiser of the event has an article then that could be included.

Probably much too much work - but blue skies

Rod

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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Bod Notbod
Sent: 12 September 2011 18:24
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Richard Symonds chasemew...@gmail.com
wrote:

 That said, we can worry about the specific legalities later - I don't want
 to get bogged down in them now.

The idea that there may even be any sort of legal dimension hadn't
occurred in even the most over-active and alert synapses of my fevered
brain! So, I don't know how I managed to plant that seed...

No, I was just trying to picture the merchandise, so whether it was
going to have a UK mention on it or just be plain Wikimedia was about
picturing it.

 I'm hoping for some blue-sky ideas. If you
 could hand something to someone in the street - one thing - that would
make
 them edit Wikipedia, what would you like it to be? Something that makes
the
 person go hmmm... or ooh!...

WereSpiel's ideas of mousemats and mugs are tried and tested but I
think none the worse for that. If it were within our abilities to
revolutionise merchandising I suspect we'd be typing our emails on
solid gold keyboards.

But, OK, blue-sky and would really make me edit?

I think the one thing that would most make me want to edit would be to
see something wrong or that I disagreed with. So it could be a typo.
You'd have a badge saying this is a badje [edit] or this is a
quayring [edit] or this is a mugg [edit].

Or, more provocatvely, Margaret Thatcher was the world's most
compassionate woman. [edit] or Wayne Rooney deserves every penny he
gets. [edit]. The trick with those, though, is identifying people who
are likely to disagree.

Some places do promotional USB drives now. I'm trying to think what
one could pre-load them with, but I'm coming up blank. Maybe it could
have all of Wikipedia's unusual articles on as seen here...?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WEIRD

Bod

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[Wikimediauk-l] Why is UK not part of Wiki loves monuments?

[Rod Ward]

Hi all,

 

Because of my tangential involvement with WikiProject:Historic Sites I
spotted a note about a Europe wide contest Wiki loves Monuments (see
http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu/ ).

 

The UK is included on the map but there is not link to the UK chapter and I
wondered if this was a deliberate decision for some reason?

 

There is a wikiproject page
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011 - which
seems to have lots of broken links) and more detail on Commons
(http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011 )

 

They say Wiki Loves Monuments 2011 is a public photo contest around
monuments, organized by Wikimedia chapters. And aims to improve the
quantity and quality of CC licensed images of cultural heritage sites and
objects. It may be too late for 2011 (it seems to run in September but
unclear) but what about the UK participating in future years?

 

Rod 

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects - evening courses

[Rod Ward]

Local history societies are good sources of enthusiastic amateurs who have
lots of resources for any area ( they often meet in the back rooms of pubs
:-).
I have found they generally want to share the fruits of their labours.

I did a short paper for their journal a few years ago, (see
http://www.balh.co.uk/lhn/article.php?file=lhn-vol1iss81-4.xml for un
formatted version) and they are often looking for speakers willing to attend
their meetings.

Rod

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From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of
WereSpielChequers
Sent: 03 June 2011 14:48
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects - evening courses

My Mum is active in her local branch of the University of the third
age, they struck me as a perfect partner for such an evening course.
Especially if the UK chapter were to offer the U3A a grant for hiring
in approved Wikipedians to deliver said course.

But please call it something other than creating your own wiki page.
Aside from winding up the deletionists,  that risks letting people
think they own a page, or that they can create a page about them. Your
hobby/profession/neighbourhood and Wikipedia would be OK, someone else
will I hope come up with something snazzier.

But this definitely has legs.

We could also make use of a photographers version to explain commons
to local photography clubs.

WereSpielChequers

On 1 June 2011 22:36, Roger Bamkin victuall...@gmail.com wrote:
 Two minor threads: Martin Poulter and I discussed how we could put
together
 a teaching plan so that someone like yourself could organise an enevening
 course in creating your own wiki page ... not sure whether Martin made
any
 progress. I know he was investigating ... I suspect there are a lot of
 people who would like to put their local history work into Wikipedia ...
if
 we just explained it and demo ed it at the same time.

 Other thread. I teach secondary ICT. I'm planning to teach intro to Wiki
 editting next week. I have still to find some resources. Any help
 appreciated.

 regards
 Roger B

 On 1 June 2011 17:34, Alex Stinson stins...@dukes.jmu.edu wrote:

 There is an education list
 at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education which appears
to
 be one of the better ways to contact people because not everyone
regularly
 checks outreach wiki (including myself). I invite people to join who want
to
 work with Education and Wikimedia projects, it include a fair number of
 Campus Ambassadors who are doing innovative stuff at universities as well
as
 a number of other people in various chapters involved in education
stuffs,
 Alex

 On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Thomas Morton
 morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hey Alex,
 Yes a lot of that has been my starting point. FWIW there is a lack of
 content for the younger age groups (say 14-16) which is where my current
 focus is; the beginner guides are more suited (at least in my
experience
 of teaching) to older students. I'd also like to see some more material
on
 the goals/ideals of Wikipedia (as that seems a better start point before
 leaping into account creation :)).

 Also I noticed that a lot of the focus is on editing or contributing
 Wikipedia. I've approached this from a slightly different perspective -
 which is that most of the kids I will be talking to aren't interested in
 writing (and probably aren't yet capable of doing so) a Wikipedia
article.
 On the other hand I aim to teach them about using WP as a resource (and
the
 potential pitfalls) as well as trying to get them to treat it with
respect
 (i.e. quit the vandalism).
 Is there a place on Outreach where discussion of education/teaching
 materials is happening?
 Tom
 On 1 June 2011 17:15, Alex Stinson stins...@dukes.jmu.edu wrote:

 High school professors. Yikes! Meant teachers, not professors. I
 thought I fixed that in a second read. Been working with universities
for
 too long.
 Tom, that sounds like something that could really use some development
 in the way of documented techniques or presenting the information. You
may
 want to check out the stuff on the Wikimedia Foundation bookshelf
project
 for materials you can destribute instead of making all of them yourself
 (http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf). We also have been
developing
 a fair amount of stuff at the education portal on outreach, though
still a
 work in progress (http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education). Alot
has
 already been developed in fairly professional ways, it just needs to be
 applied in the class room,
 Alex

 On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Thomas Morton
 morton.tho...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Chris,
 Yes, that was my impression too - I have some ideas/proposals to try
 and bring into play but didn't want to step on top of an active
project that
 I'd missed :P
 I'm based in Lincolnshire.

 Alex,
 I've been keeping a close eye on the Ambassadors project - it looks
 like some 

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

[Rod Ward]

I would echo the concerns about Geonotices as I've started to click the X to
get rid of them as soon as they come up.

 

Also - although I live in Somerset my ISP (plusnet) is based in Sheffield so
would I receive notices about meetups in Yorkshire, but miss out on those in
Bristol  or Taunton (not that we have done one there yet)?

 

Rod

 

 

 

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[mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Keating
Sent: 16 May 2011 19:53
To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

 

The reason I'm concerned is that we already use geonotices quite heavily and
will probably use them even more in the future. While there is no financial
cost to the geonotices (obviously) there is an opportunity cost and a cost
in terms of the attention they require - we should bear this in mind. I am a
bit concerned that we will end up suffering from advertising blindness as
people start to tune them out, which is more likely to occur if they see
notices they don't find relevant. 

 

So I suggest we should have geonotices based on regional areas within the UK
wherever we can, and only use UK-wide geonotices for things which are really
of interest to Wikipedians nationwide - in which I would count a Cambridge
University collaboration but not a Cambridge meetup, for instance. (Or
indeed a British Library collaboration, but not a London meetup!)

 

I don't know the details of the geolocation database we use, but the one
Google uses claims it can locate 62% of British IPs to within 25 miles of
the actual location: http://www.maxmind.com/app/city_accuracy - even if the
true figure is only 50% that's still very good for our purposes.

 

Chris

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Richard Farmbrough
rich...@farmbrough.co.uk wrote:

Depends on the ISP, and, moreover, it depends on the granularity of
information they provide.  Most ADSL ISPs seem to enjoy churning IP
addresses every 24 hours (possibly small hours resets of their exchange
equipment).  Many geo-attempts I've seem simply use ISP's  registered
addresses (hence eveyone lived in Woking, at one point).  Smart reading of
the traceroute will often give almost street level location but I doubt many
people do that.  I know little about geo-targeting,  but it is something I
need ot find out about, so any useful resoruces



On 16/05/2011 14:52, Deryck Chan wrote: 

Chris,
Currently geo-targeting is only accurate to country level (due to ISPs
randomly moving IPs around within a country - Magnus, is that correct?), so
the only surefire way of targeting all of Cambridge is to scoop up all of
the UK, unfortunately.
Deryck

On May 16, 2011 2:05 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can I suggest some rather tighter geotargeting for that notice - at the
 moment it appears to aim at every Wikipedian in a box with Belfast and
 Calais as its opposite corners
 
 On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Michael Peel
michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:
 

 On 16 May 2011, at 08:48, Charles Matthews wrote:

  On 09/05/2011 11:05, I wrote:
  I have posted a page for the next Cambridge meetup:
 
  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Cambridge/11
 
  A site notice for this event would be helpful.

 I've set up an en.wp geonotice for it (which appears at the top of
 watchlists). In general, the place to request these is at:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Geonotice
 and any admin can make them live, by editing the page at:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Geonotice.js

 Thanks,
 Mike


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[Wikimediauk-l] FW: News release: Confused by copyright? In the dark about IPR?

[Rod Ward]

Following the recent discussion about copyright  transcripts I wondered if
the announcement below about a nne4w resource for learning about copyright 
IPR might be of interest?

 

It is aimed at HE institutions, but seems to be freely accessible to all 
covers CC licences etc.

 

Rod


From: A JISC announce list. [jisc-annou...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
Nicola Yeeles [n.yee...@jisc.ac.uk]
Sent: 07 April 2011 12:28
To: jisc-annou...@jiscmail.ac.uk
Subject: News release: Confused by copyright? In the dark about IPR?

News release
7 April 2011

Confused by copyright? In the dark about IPR?

A new elearning module from the JISC-led Strategic Content Alliance is to
help update people dealing with intellectual property rights in
universities, colleges, museums, libraries and other public bodies.

Access the module at http://www.web2rights.com/SCAIPRModule

The module will help them understand the implications and roles of
Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) and licensing - all crucial to their
institution's role as a provider, aggregator and/or publisher of digital
content.

After completing the module, they will be better able to create, exploit and
manage digital content with confidence, and most importantly, using a risk
managed approach.

To help make these complex areas more understandable, the module is divided
into six learning objects with supporting case studies, video and animation:

1. Introduction to IPR and Licensing
2. Creative Commons Licences
3. Orphan Works and Risk Management
4. Digital Economy Act
5. Accessing and Using Third Party Content
6. Protecting and Managing Rights

Naomi Korn, one of the authors of the resource, said: The module has been
developed to directly address those people in institutions who may be new to
the issues around intellectual property rights and licensing or for those
who want to learn more about specific issues.  We anticipate that people
will want to customise, reuse and share the information so it is has been
developed in an open source platform and the content licensed under Creative
Commons licences, making the resource as flexible as possible.

The module supplements and forms part a range of products and tools to
support the management of IPR created by the Alliance.

Sarah Fahmy, manager of the Strategic Content Alliance, said: Whilst there
is little current case law, the education sector risks reputational damage
and loss of trust with publishers and other rights holders in the event that
copyright and other IPRs are not handled appropriately.

Universities and colleges need support to ensure that their own rights are
adequately protected, contractual agreements with any funding bodies are
upheld and the ramifications of using digital content for which rights
holders are unknown or cannot be traced - so called 'orphan works' - are
thoroughly considered.

The module has been developed for the Strategic Content Alliance by IPR
consultants Naomi Korn and Emma Beer, and  by Robert Stillwell and Dr Neil
Witt in the department for technology enhanced learning at Plymouth
University.

Access the module at http://www.web2rights.com/SCAIPRModule

Read more advice and guidance on IPR and related issues through the toolkit
http://www.jisc.ac.uk/whatwedo/themes/content/contentalliance/reports/ipr.a
spx

Stay up to date with the Strategic Content Alliance at
http://sca.jiscinvolve.org/wp/ipr-publications/

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