[Wikimediauk-l] (no subject)
All, It appears that some of the AGM-related emails haven't been received - they may have gone into spam folders or similar. I'm therefore writing to remind you that the deadline for standing as a trustee in the Wikimedia UK board elections is *tomorrow evening*. If you don't have the information you need to stand, please let me know and I'll send it to you. We'll be sending out specific emails to those who have expressed an interest in the next hour or two. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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The notice is also available on-wiki at: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_UK_2013/Notice_of_Annual_General_Meeting Thanks, Mike On 14 May 2013, at 14:26, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: All, It appears that some of the AGM-related emails haven't been received - they may have gone into spam folders or similar. I'm therefore writing to remind you that the deadline for standing as a trustee in the Wikimedia UK board elections is tomorrow evening. If you don't have the information you need to stand, please let me know and I'll send it to you. We'll be sending out specific emails to those who have expressed an interest in the next hour or two. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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Hi Fabian, Just thought I'd note that I have not read Tom Morton's note. Obviously I'm not reading all the stuff that is being posted at the moment. Do make sure that you don't just publish an open letter and forget to tell the addressee.:-) cheers roger On 30 September 2012 23:24, fab...@unpopular.org.uk wrote: Hi all, I would like to thank Thomas Morton for his well thought explanation addressed to Roger (Sat, 29 Sep 2012 22:51:10 +0100). It covered a number of points I felt need addressing and Tom put them in a useful and tactful way - much better than I could have hoped to do. However, I would like to address some ramifications of this. This is one reason why charities are often run by older, retired, types who do not need to go out and earn a living. Quite so. However, one of the consequences of the phenomenal success of WP is that the potential development of where we are now has created space for activity beyond that which WMUK as a charity is best placed to carry out. a) Wikiversity has a great potential, however the development of such a repository of Open Educational Resources (OERs) will be very slow without people being paid - not so much for editing but for delivering teaching which uses WV as a platform, creating OERs free for other people to use. The dynamic for this is quite different from WP and Wikicommons. I have not been involved in all the sister projects, but suspect that they will each have their own dynamic, which needs to be addressed in its own terms. b) Linked to a) is the delivery of training in how to use WP. It seems to me very straight forward to see WV as an ideal platform for this. There is also much to be learnt from WikiEducator, which uses a Mediawiki in conjunction wit the moodle software. c) Another aspect of this is that I have noticed that some of the people who attend WMUK training sessions are people who are employed by learned societies as Social Media Officers. While I find volunteering to train other volunteers quite attractive, when it comes to giving time freely in order help in the training for paid workers of organisations I am confident that i am not the only person who finds this a bit awkward. Likewise as we welcome academics who stipulate that their students achieve certain goals in order to pass a course, this to me creates a market for delivering training outside a volunteer - to -volunteer framework. Aside from the problems which have arisen from Roger being a trustee, I think the work he has done is amazing and really innovative. I would like to see it continue. However what I feel would really facilitate this is the creation of a not-for-profit social enterprise which would provide a structured way in which innovations like QRpedia could be placed in relation to both WMUK, WMF and the broader community. I feel that our community has an amazing range of diverse talents, and that if the possibilities provoked by WPs success are to be realised, then we need to develop a way in which the ethos of unpaid editing of WP itself can be balanced with other roles which are emerging which are peripheral to editing but which can greatly enhance WP and its sister projects. I hope that the recent experiences at WMUK will stimulate a discussion about how such a social enterprise might be set up, how the ethos of collaborative working and sharing of resources might be taken forward, how this can be done in a way which does not disrupt the very success which WP has enjoyed, and how such a social enterprise can contribute towards fundraising for WMUK to deliver its charitable goals. If such a discussion is got going now, there is some prospect that we could have a concrete proposal which has been mulled over by the community in time for the next AGM. As Tom said: Bottom line; you (as a board), we even, fucked up. Not maliciously, but very badly. You lost sight of the wider objective. But it's not something to beat each other up over. Learn from it, make improvements, move on. I am proposing this as a way of moving on in a way which keeps people like Roger with their brilliant ideas involved but not as trustees. all the best Fabian (User:Leutha) ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- Roger Bamkin 01332 702993 0758 2020815 Google+:Victuallers Skype:Victuallers1 Flickr:Victuallers2 ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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Hi all, I would like to thank Thomas Morton for his well thought explanation addressed to Roger (Sat, 29 Sep 2012 22:51:10 +0100). It covered a number of points I felt need addressing and Tom put them in a useful and tactful way - much better than I could have hoped to do. However, I would like to address some ramifications of this. This is one reason why charities are often run by older, retired, types who do not need to go out and earn a living. Quite so. However, one of the consequences of the phenomenal success of WP is that the potential development of where we are now has created space for activity beyond that which WMUK as a charity is best placed to carry out. a) Wikiversity has a great potential, however the development of such a repository of Open Educational Resources (OERs) will be very slow without people being paid - not so much for editing but for delivering teaching which uses WV as a platform, creating OERs free for other people to use. The dynamic for this is quite different from WP and Wikicommons. I have not been involved in all the sister projects, but suspect that they will each have their own dynamic, which needs to be addressed in its own terms. b) Linked to a) is the delivery of training in how to use WP. It seems to me very straight forward to see WV as an ideal platform for this. There is also much to be learnt from WikiEducator, which uses a Mediawiki in conjunction wit the moodle software. c) Another aspect of this is that I have noticed that some of the people who attend WMUK training sessions are people who are employed by learned societies as Social Media Officers. While I find volunteering to train other volunteers quite attractive, when it comes to giving time freely in order help in the training for paid workers of organisations I am confident that i am not the only person who finds this a bit awkward. Likewise as we welcome academics who stipulate that their students achieve certain goals in order to pass a course, this to me creates a market for delivering training outside a volunteer - to -volunteer framework. Aside from the problems which have arisen from Roger being a trustee, I think the work he has done is amazing and really innovative. I would like to see it continue. However what I feel would really facilitate this is the creation of a not-for-profit social enterprise which would provide a structured way in which innovations like QRpedia could be placed in relation to both WMUK, WMF and the broader community. I feel that our community has an amazing range of diverse talents, and that if the possibilities provoked by WPs success are to be realised, then we need to develop a way in which the ethos of unpaid editing of WP itself can be balanced with other roles which are emerging which are peripheral to editing but which can greatly enhance WP and its sister projects. I hope that the recent experiences at WMUK will stimulate a discussion about how such a social enterprise might be set up, how the ethos of collaborative working and sharing of resources might be taken forward, how this can be done in a way which does not disrupt the very success which WP has enjoyed, and how such a social enterprise can contribute towards fundraising for WMUK to deliver its charitable goals. If such a discussion is got going now, there is some prospect that we could have a concrete proposal which has been mulled over by the community in time for the next AGM. As Tom said: Bottom line; you (as a board), we even, fucked up. Not maliciously, but very badly. You lost sight of the wider objective. But it's not something to beat each other up over. Learn from it, make improvements, move on. I am proposing this as a way of moving on in a way which keeps people like Roger with their brilliant ideas involved but not as trustees. all the best Fabian (User:Leutha) ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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Firozali A.Mulla DBA P.O.Box 38100 Dar-Es-Salaam Tanzania___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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Margarine is made from plastic MARGARINE, when first produced, is a grey, smelly plastic. It needs ... a grey, smelly grease. Yet many health ...There you are you eating plastic? Is that why we need more plastic bottles? The only reason people but this instead of butter is butter is high in cholesterol and it is priced expensive I thank you Firozali A.Mulla Firozali A.Mulla DBA P.O.Box 38100 Dar-Es-Salaam Tanzania___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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But it is a non dairy subject. We are not talking about butter here ;-) On Jul 26, 2012 7:12 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: I'll look into this tomorrow. After I've dealt with non-dairy subjects. Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK On Jul 26, 2012 6:49 PM, Firozali A Mulla flymu...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Margarine is made from plastic MARGARINE, when first produced, is a grey, smelly plastic. It needs ... a grey, smelly grease. Yet many health ...There you are you eating plastic? Is that why we need more plastic bottles? The only reason people but this instead of butter is butter is high in cholesterol and it is priced expensive I thank you Firozali A.Mulla ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** Firozali A.Mulla DBA P.O.Box 38100 Dar-Es-Salaam Tanzania ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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Exactly! We're talking about plastic, apparently. Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK On Jul 26, 2012 7:27 PM, Theresa Knott theresakn...@gmail.com wrote: But it is a non dairy subject. We are not talking about butter here ;-) On Jul 26, 2012 7:12 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: I'll look into this tomorrow. After I've dealt with non-dairy subjects. Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK On Jul 26, 2012 6:49 PM, Firozali A Mulla flymu...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Margarine is made from plastic MARGARINE, when first produced, is a grey, smelly plastic. It needs ... a grey, smelly grease. Yet many health ...There you are you eating plastic? Is that why we need more plastic bottles? The only reason people but this instead of butter is butter is high in cholesterol and it is priced expensive I thank you Firozali A.Mulla ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** Firozali A.Mulla DBA P.O.Box 38100 Dar-Es-Salaam Tanzania ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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I demand that WMUK immediately disclose all funds that have gone to people that might have spent it on margarine. The members deserve to know the truth! On 26 July 2012 19:38, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Exactly! We're talking about plastic, apparently. Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK On Jul 26, 2012 7:27 PM, Theresa Knott theresakn...@gmail.com wrote: But it is a non dairy subject. We are not talking about butter here ;-) On Jul 26, 2012 7:12 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: I'll look into this tomorrow. After I've dealt with non-dairy subjects. Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK On Jul 26, 2012 6:49 PM, Firozali A Mulla flymu...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Margarine is made from plastic MARGARINE, when first produced, is a grey, smelly plastic. It needs ... a grey, smelly grease. Yet many health ...There you are you eating plastic? Is that why we need more plastic bottles? The only reason people but this instead of butter is butter is high in cholesterol and it is priced expensive I thank you Firozali A.Mulla Firozali A.Mulla DBA P.O.Box 38100 Dar-Es-Salaam Tanzania ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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On 26/07/12 19:39, Thomas Dalton wrote: I demand that WMUK immediately disclose all funds that have gone to people that might have spent it on margarine. The members deserve to know the truth! The truth is Rotten. Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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The problem seems to be spreading. I'll get my coat... On 26 July 2012 14:12, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: I'll look into this tomorrow. After I've dealt with non-dairy subjects. Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK On Jul 26, 2012 6:49 PM, Firozali A Mulla flymu...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Margarine is made from plastic MARGARINE, when first produced, is a grey, smelly plastic. It needs ... a grey, smelly grease. Yet many health ...There you are you eating plastic? Is that why we need more plastic bottles? The only reason people but this instead of butter is butter is high in cholesterol and it is priced expensive I thank you Firozali A.Mulla Firozali A.Mulla DBA P.O.Box 38100 Dar-Es-Salaam Tanzania ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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May I propose a toast... On 26 July 2012 20:08, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: The problem seems to be spreading. I'll get my coat... On 26 July 2012 14:12, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: I'll look into this tomorrow. After I've dealt with non-dairy subjects. Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK On Jul 26, 2012 6:49 PM, Firozali A Mulla flymu...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Margarine is made from plastic MARGARINE, when first produced, is a grey, smelly plastic. It needs ... a grey, smelly grease. Yet many health ...There you are you eating plastic? Is that why we need more plastic bottles? The only reason people but this instead of butter is butter is high in cholesterol and it is priced expensive I thank you Firozali A.Mulla Firozali A.Mulla DBA P.O.Box 38100 Dar-Es-Salaam Tanzania ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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On 26 July 2012 22:54, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: May I propose a toast... Ah, now there I have to agree with Mr Mulla. If you're going to have toast, it really does have to be butter... ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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On 26 July 2012 22:58, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 July 2012 22:54, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: May I propose a toast... Ah, now there I have to agree with Mr Mulla. If you're going to have toast, it really does have to be butter... We've got into a bit of a jam... ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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And all we're really doing is churning out one-liners... Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK On Jul 26, 2012 11:00 PM, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 July 2012 22:58, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 July 2012 22:54, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: May I propose a toast... Ah, now there I have to agree with Mr Mulla. If you're going to have toast, it really does have to be butter... We've got into a bit of a jam... ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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*Bzzzt* Repetition. :) On 26 July 2012 23:05, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Yes, but there's no need to spread it. On Jul 26, 2012 11:02 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: And all we're really doing is churning out one-liners... Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK On Jul 26, 2012 11:00 PM, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 July 2012 22:58, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 July 2012 22:54, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: May I propose a toast... Ah, now there I have to agree with Mr Mulla. If you're going to have toast, it really does have to be butter... We've got into a bit of a jam... ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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Sirs I wanted to know how much energy our eyes use from our body . Is it 92% I thank you Firozali A.Mulla DBA This is from my student Firozali A.Mulla ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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Firozali, I suggest you ask your question on the Wikipedia Reference Desk here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science Regards, Tom On 10 May 2012 20:10, Firozali A Mulla flymu...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Sirs I wanted to know how much energy our eyes use from our body . Is it 92% I thank you Firozali A.Mulla DBA This is from my student Firozali A.Mulla ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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Am greatly in need of abenecator ,benefactress or sponsor.Please do help me.Thanks and God bless you all. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
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Dear members! My name is Kajura Felix aUgandan aged 26years old.I come from avery humble family background born to Mr.Rusoke Paul and Nakibuuka Christine. Am an ex-seminarian who loved and started priestly formation at an age of 15years in the minor seminary.After which still filled with the passion to serve as apriest continued to the major seminary.Unfortunately,of late in 2006 when i was travelling back to the major to continue with the seminary formation,i was involved in afatal motorcar accident from which God saved my life for which i greatly thank him todate! However,after recovery,i wasn't allowed to continue with priestly formation something that frustrated me! Encouraged by God's grace,i let all that go and looked at what the future held for me. In the year 2008,i applied to Makerere University which is the best and recognised national university in Uganda for abachelor's degree in commerce and i was granted aplace.This is where i have been since 2008,for two years now. From the start,my parents have been supporting me to pursue my degree at the university through thick and thin together with my little efforts by doing some casual work when i could find it anyway. Of recent,my ageing father who has been self employed was diagnosed with cancer and was advised by the doctors to stop working due to his poor health.And my ageing mother too who would remain supportive is apeasant susistence farmer who is now loaded with the responsibility of taking care of the family. I have just accomplished my second year at the university and i still have more two to complete my degree. Am worried about the way am going to coninue with my studies at the university because there are alot of requirements that i need to continue my studies at the university such as;tuition fees per semester,examination fees per semester,technology fees per semester,registration fees per semester,library fees per semester,development fees per semester,internship fees per academic year,accomodation,the list is long let alone personal requirements like meals and others which i have always foregone due to lack of money. It is because of this kind of dilemma and challenge that am experiencing i decided to write on this e-mail address in search for someone to help me such that i can be able to accomplish my degree programme. I shall therefore be very overwhemingly thankful to whoever shall respond to my humble request and cry! May God bless you all. For any one out there who wishes to give me any assistance,we can be in touch by e-mail,my e-mail address is;atenyifelis2...@yahoo.com ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org