Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Advice on approaching schools and churches about photography for Commons
On 4 February 2011 11:13, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: Care should be taken, however, not to give the school/church/etc. the impression that you are representing the chapter or acting in any kind of official capacity (unless the chapter does actually give you some kind of official position or ask you to represent it). On the other side of the planet, for WM Hong Kong we're fine with any paid-up member to go out in the name of us unless we told them not to. I think it's overly conservative to preemptively prevent a member of your organisation to go out and do things as a member of Wikimedia UK... The problem is that we could be legally responsible for what someone does while representing us. They can say that they are a member, that's a simple fact, but we need to maintain some degree of control over what is done in our name. (The same is probably true in HK - you should be careful.) ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Advice on approaching schools and churches about photography for Commons
Hi all, Sort of related to GLAM outreach, but I'm thinking schools, churches and other historical institutions. I'm thinking about approaching a local school about getting photographs of an ancient hall on the site of the school. There may be an out-of-copyright drawing or image of it, or they may have photographs they wouldn't mind publishing on Commons, or I'd be happy to go and photograph the hall myself. I don't want to be intrusive or waste people's time including my own. Has anyone done this kind of thing successfully? Should one mention that it is for Wikipedia, and should one mention being a signed-up Wikimedia UK member? Is there any suggestion of including contact details for Wikimedia UK so they can contact someone 'official' to confirm I'm not just some random nutter. Anyone interested in sharing their advice (perhaps it could go on a project page on either WP or Commons or just on a page on the UK chapter wiki). As with GLAM, I think people in education and in rural churches (etc.) could potentially be motivated to contribute to Wikipedia -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ Please don't print this e-mail out unless you want a hard copy of it. If you do, go ahead. I won't stop you. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Advice on approaching schools and churches about photography for Commons
Hi Tom,
Comments inline.
On 3 Feb 2011, at 18:07, Tom Morris wrote:
Hi all,
Sort of related to GLAM outreach, but I'm thinking schools, churches
and other historical institutions.
I'm thinking about approaching a local school about getting
photographs of an ancient hall on the site of the school. There may be
an out-of-copyright drawing or image of it, or they may have
photographs they wouldn't mind publishing on Commons, or I'd be happy
to go and photograph the hall myself. I don't want to be intrusive or
waste people's time including my own.
Has anyone done this kind of thing successfully?
I've done this before, although normally as a Wikipedia editor rather than as
part of Wikimedia UK.
Should one mention
that it is for Wikipedia,
Yes, you should definitely mention Wikipedia, for many reasons, including it
opening doors, reduces the surprise of seeing the contents up there, and avoids
issues further down the line (if you're on private ground, then they might be
upset at seeing people freely reusing the photos).
and should one mention being a signed-up
Wikimedia UK member?
I'd recommend mentioning this, although it's not 'necessary'. It helps for the
school/church/etc. to see that there is an 'official' organisation present.
Is there any suggestion of including contact
details for Wikimedia UK so they can contact someone 'official' to
confirm I'm not just some random nutter.
I'd be happy for you to give them my contact details ('official' email address
michael.peel at wikimedia.org.uk, other contact methods at
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Contact_us).
Anyone interested in sharing their advice (perhaps it could go on a
project page on either WP or Commons or just on a page on the UK
chapter wiki). As with GLAM, I think people in education and in rural
churches (etc.) could potentially be motivated to contribute to
Wikipedia
We have the pages at:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cultural_partnerships
although those are more aimed at the museums than volunteers. The best place
for this discussion / general advice page is probably the glam pages at:
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM
Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Advice on approaching schools and churches about photography for Commons
On 3 February 2011 18:52, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: On 3 Feb 2011, at 18:07, Tom Morris wrote: and should one mention being a signed-up Wikimedia UK member? I'd recommend mentioning this, although it's not 'necessary'. It helps for the school/church/etc. to see that there is an 'official' organisation present. Care should be taken, however, not to give the school/church/etc. the impression that you are representing the chapter or acting in any kind of official capacity (unless the chapter does actually give you some kind of official position or ask you to represent it). ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Advice on approaching schools and churches about photography for Commons
On 3 February 2011 19:22, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Care should be taken, however, not to give the school/church/etc. the impression that you are representing the chapter or acting in any kind of official capacity (unless the chapter does actually give you some kind of official position or ask you to represent it). If he keeps doing this sort of thing he'll get drafted ;-) -d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
