Re: [Wikimediauk-l] EGM resolution regarding the change in board structure - alternatives

2013-04-10 Thread Gordon Joly



I believe that quorum is about 30 people, but there are only 20 names on 
the list here:


http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/EGM_2013

Given the importance of this agenda, can WMUK assure members that 
meeting will indeed be quorate? Or is the sign up list not representative?


Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] EGM resolution regarding the change in board structure - alternatives

2013-04-10 Thread Simon Knight
I'd bet some proxy people (myself included) haven't signed up there...

Best
Simon

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I believe that quorum is about 30 people, but there are only 20 names on the 
list here:

http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/EGM_2013

Given the importance of this agenda, can WMUK assure members that meeting will 
indeed be quorate? Or is the sign up list not representative?

Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] EGM resolution regarding the change in board structure - alternatives

2013-04-10 Thread Andrew Gray
The quorum figure includes proxy votes not present.

I doubt WMUK can absolutely assure people of quoracy, given it's dependent
on whether those same people turn up!

Andrew.

On Wednesday, 10 April 2013, Gordon Joly wrote:



 I believe that quorum is about 30 people, but there are only 20 names on
 the list here:

 http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/**EGM_2013http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/EGM_2013

 Given the importance of this agenda, can WMUK assure members that meeting
 will indeed be quorate? Or is the sign up list not representative?

 Gordo


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] EGM resolution regarding the change in board structure - alternatives

2013-04-10 Thread Gordon Joly

On 10/04/13 08:47, Andrew Gray wrote:


I doubt WMUK can absolutely assure people of quoracy, given it's 
dependent on whether those same people turn up!



Indeed. How about a reminder to members?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] EGM resolution regarding the change in board structure - alternatives

2013-04-10 Thread Richard Symonds
There'll be a reminder going out. We will almost certainly be quorate once
proxies are included - but we're not quite there yet, so do make sure you
get your votes in!

Richard Symonds
Teller
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Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

*Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*


On 10 April 2013 09:04, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:

 On 10/04/13 08:47, Andrew Gray wrote:


 I doubt WMUK can absolutely assure people of quoracy, given it's
 dependent on whether those same people turn up!

  Indeed. How about a reminder to members?


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] EGM resolution regarding the change in board structure - alternatives

2013-04-10 Thread Michael Peel
A reminder's now been sent to all members. If you haven't received a copy and 
think that you should have, then please email members...@wikimedia.org.uk to 
let us know.

Thanks,
Mike

On 10 Apr 2013, at 12:44, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk 
wrote:

 There'll be a reminder going out. We will almost certainly be quorate once 
 proxies are included - but we're not quite there yet, so do make sure you get 
 your votes in!
 
 Richard Symonds
 Teller
 0207 065 0992
 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and 
 Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered 
 Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. 
 United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia 
 movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who 
 operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
 Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over 
 Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.
 
 
 On 10 April 2013 09:04, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:
 On 10/04/13 08:47, Andrew Gray wrote:
 
 I doubt WMUK can absolutely assure people of quoracy, given it's dependent on 
 whether those same people turn up!
 
 Indeed. How about a reminder to members?
 
 
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[Wikimediauk-l] EGM resolution regarding the change in board structure - alternatives

2013-04-09 Thread Lodewijk
Hi all,

on this talk 
pagehttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:EGM_2013/Resolutions#Alternatives_to_Resolution_regarding_the_composition_of_the_board
I
have asked some questions regarding the goals and purpose of the resolution
proposed, and what problem exactly it is trying to solve. I also tried to
understand better what alternatives have been investigated (personally I
find the proposed solution a bit strong as a first thought, so I am
assuming less far reaching alternatives were seriously given consideration
to solve the same problem).

I may have missed part of the discussions, so would appreciate any help in
filling the gaps in reasoning at that page.

Also a more technical question: would it still be possible to pass
alternative resolutions (for example, were the board-proposed resolution to
be rejected)? Or has the term for that been passed and would you have to
wait until the next General Meeting for that?

Apologies that I didn't ask these questions in a much earlier stage - I do
hope and assume someone else did and the answer can simply be copy pasted.
Placing the answers on the linked talk page would be most helpful (rather
than starting off a discussion here).

Kind regards,

Lodewijk
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] EGM resolution regarding the change in board structure - alternatives

2013-04-09 Thread Lodewijk
Thanks for the clarification on that.


2013/4/9 Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk

 I'm speaking as an EGM teller here:

 [W]ould it still be possible to pass alternative resolutions (for example,
 were the board-proposed resolution to be rejected)? Or has the term for
 that been passed and would you have to wait until the next General Meeting
 for that?


 It's not possible to pass alternative resolutions at the EGM
 unfortunately. Any new resolutions would have to be tabled at the AGM in
 June 2013.


 Richard Symonds
 Wikimedia UK
 0207 065 0992

 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
 Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
 Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
 United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
 movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
 operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

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 On 9 April 2013 17:38, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:

 Hi all,

 on this talk 
 pagehttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:EGM_2013/Resolutions#Alternatives_to_Resolution_regarding_the_composition_of_the_board
  I
 have asked some questions regarding the goals and purpose of the resolution
 proposed, and what problem exactly it is trying to solve. I also tried to
 understand better what alternatives have been investigated (personally I
 find the proposed solution a bit strong as a first thought, so I am
 assuming less far reaching alternatives were seriously given consideration
 to solve the same problem).

 I may have missed part of the discussions, so would appreciate any help
 in filling the gaps in reasoning at that page.

 Also a more technical question: would it still be possible to pass
 alternative resolutions (for example, were the board-proposed resolution to
 be rejected)? Or has the term for that been passed and would you have to
 wait until the next General Meeting for that?

 Apologies that I didn't ask these questions in a much earlier stage - I
 do hope and assume someone else did and the answer can simply be copy
 pasted. Placing the answers on the linked talk page would be most helpful
 (rather than starting off a discussion here).

 Kind regards,

 Lodewijk

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] EGM resolution regarding the change in board structure - alternatives

2013-04-09 Thread Thomas Dalton
I've been trying to make those points myself, but I've given up now...
On 9 Apr 2013 17:39, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:

 Hi all,

 on this talk 
 pagehttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:EGM_2013/Resolutions#Alternatives_to_Resolution_regarding_the_composition_of_the_board
  I
 have asked some questions regarding the goals and purpose of the resolution
 proposed, and what problem exactly it is trying to solve. I also tried to
 understand better what alternatives have been investigated (personally I
 find the proposed solution a bit strong as a first thought, so I am
 assuming less far reaching alternatives were seriously given consideration
 to solve the same problem).

 I may have missed part of the discussions, so would appreciate any help in
 filling the gaps in reasoning at that page.

 Also a more technical question: would it still be possible to pass
 alternative resolutions (for example, were the board-proposed resolution to
 be rejected)? Or has the term for that been passed and would you have to
 wait until the next General Meeting for that?

 Apologies that I didn't ask these questions in a much earlier stage - I do
 hope and assume someone else did and the answer can simply be copy pasted.
 Placing the answers on the linked talk page would be most helpful (rather
 than starting off a discussion here).

 Kind regards,

 Lodewijk

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