[Wikimediauk-l] Having an advisory board (was: Latest WMUK blog post - message from our Board)

2012-10-21 Thread Michael Peel

On 13 Oct 2012, at 20:52, Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Tom Holden tom.hol...@economics.ox.ac.uk 
 wrote:
 Is there a role for an advisory board? It was discussed a while back. Perhaps 
 some of the long serving former board members could be invited to be on it 
 (Andrew T., Joe S., Tom D.)?
 
 A little bit of an external check of are we doing something basically 
 sensible might help.
 
 
 +1
 
 And I'd hope you would be on it too :) 

I'd personally agree that an advisory board could be very beneficial for WMUK. 
I've set out a first draft of what such a board could look like, after looking 
into the WMF's advisory board setup and some other background documents, at:
https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Advisory_Board

I would like to put this forward to the board at its November meeting, if the 
proposal is sufficiently well developed and there's general agreement by then. 
I'd greatly appreciate it if those interested in this topic could edit the page 
directly, leave messages on the talk page, reply to this email or contact me 
off-list/wiki. :-)

Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Having an advisory board (was: Latest WMUK blog post - message from our Board)

2012-10-21 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 21 October 2012 19:20, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 I'd personally agree that an advisory board could be very beneficial for
 WMUK. I've set out a first draft of what such a board could look like, after
 looking into the WMF's advisory board setup and some other background
 documents, at:
 https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Advisory_Board

I don't think the WMF's advisory board has been particularly
successful or effective, so I would advise against basing WMUK's on it
to too great an extent.

Sitting on the WMF's advisory board is more of a sinecure than
anything. If WMUK is going to have an advisory board, we need to
ensure we avoid that.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Having an advisory board (was: Latest WMUK blog post - message from our Board)

2012-10-21 Thread Michael Peel

On 21 Oct 2012, at 19:30, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 21 October 2012 19:20, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 I'd personally agree that an advisory board could be very beneficial for
 WMUK. I've set out a first draft of what such a board could look like, after
 looking into the WMF's advisory board setup and some other background
 documents, at:
 https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Advisory_Board
 
 I don't think the WMF's advisory board has been particularly
 successful or effective, so I would advise against basing WMUK's on it
 to too great an extent.
 
 Sitting on the WMF's advisory board is more of a sinecure than
 anything. If WMUK is going to have an advisory board, we need to
 ensure we avoid that.

I'd agree with you here, and I think there's a fair few differences between the 
WMF's advisory board and what I've set out on-wiki. What I've posted is very 
much meant as a straw man, though, to set things going - so please help improve 
it. :-)

Thanks,
Mike


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Having an advisory board (was: Latest WMUK blog post - message from our Board)

2012-10-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 October 2012 19:30, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't think the WMF's advisory board has been particularly
 successful or effective, so I would advise against basing WMUK's on it
 to too great an extent.
 Sitting on the WMF's advisory board is more of a sinecure than
 anything. If WMUK is going to have an advisory board, we need to
 ensure we avoid that.


The main thing an organisation needs an advisory board for is to
advise. This means people from the organisation need to actually ask
them stuff. Typically, that's the bit that doesn't happen much.

If when people ask for an advisory board they mean a group to police
the board and organisation, that's a completely different beast and
I'm not sure what the proper name for it is.


- d.

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