[Wikimediauk-l] If you are interested in the google grants results.

2013-05-23 Thread Jon Davies
(Certainly something we should consider f they do it again JD)


We were blown away by the thoughtfulness and innovation in the hundreds of
fantastic submissions we received. We unfortunately had to make some tough
decisions in narrowing down the pool and wanted to let you know that the
project submitted by your organisation was not selected as a one of the 10
finalists. We want to sincerely thank you for the time, thought and energy
you put into your application.



While we can’t include all projects in the next phase of the Global Impact
Challenge, we do want to share information about various resources
available to UK non-profits:



· *Google Grants* empowers non-profit organisations, through
$10,000 per month in in-kind AdWords™ advertising, to promote their
missions and initiatives on Google.co.uk. Get started at
http://www.google.co.uk/grants/.

· *YouTube for Non-profits* helps you tell your organisation’s
story through videos. Benefits include donation buttons that allow viewers
to contribute to your cause online right from YouTube videos,
Call-to-action overlays that let viewers click to visit your website or
learn more, live streaming video footage right onto your YouTube channel,
and much more. Get started at
https://www.youtube.com/nonprofits?info_mode=worldwide.

· *Google Earth Outreach* supports non-profit organizations with
software grants for Enterprise versions of our mapping products. Eligible
non-profits can apply for a grant of Google Earth Pro, Google Maps Engine,
Google Maps API for Business and Google Maps Coordinate. Get started here:
http://www.google.co.uk/earth/outreach/grants/software/index.html



Also learn more about how video, social media and other online tools can
help you do more on a limited budget by checking out the Grow Your Charity
Online http://www.growyourcharityonline.com/uk resource from Google,
Media Trust and Charity Technology Trust.



We hope you find the above resources helpful for your organisation - and,
once again, thank you for your application to the Global Impact Challenge
in the UK.



Sincerely,



The Global Impact Challenge Team

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] If you are interested in the google grants results.

2013-05-23 Thread Andy Mabbett
I hadn't heard that we were applying, but I've made a successful
application in the past, so happy to assist with future bids.
On May 23, 2013 8:54 AM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 (Certainly something we should consider f they do it again JD)
 

 We were blown away by the thoughtfulness and innovation in the hundreds of
 fantastic submissions we received. We unfortunately had to make some tough
 decisions in narrowing down the pool and wanted to let you know that the
 project submitted by your organisation was not selected as a one of the 10
 finalists. We want to sincerely thank you for the time, thought and energy
 you put into your application.



 While we can’t include all projects in the next phase of the Global Impact
 Challenge, we do want to share information about various resources
 available to UK non-profits:



 · *Google Grants* empowers non-profit organisations, through
 $10,000 per month in in-kind AdWords™ advertising, to promote their
 missions and initiatives on Google.co.uk. Get started at
 http://www.google.co.uk/grants/.

 · *YouTube for Non-profits* helps you tell your organisation’s
 story through videos. Benefits include donation buttons that allow viewers
 to contribute to your cause online right from YouTube videos,
 Call-to-action overlays that let viewers click to visit your website or
 learn more, live streaming video footage right onto your YouTube channel,
 and much more. Get started at
 https://www.youtube.com/nonprofits?info_mode=worldwide.

 · *Google Earth Outreach* supports non-profit organizations with
 software grants for Enterprise versions of our mapping products. Eligible
 non-profits can apply for a grant of Google Earth Pro, Google Maps Engine,
 Google Maps API for Business and Google Maps Coordinate. Get started here:
 http://www.google.co.uk/earth/outreach/grants/software/index.html



 Also learn more about how video, social media and other online tools can
 help you do more on a limited budget by checking out the Grow Your
 Charity Online http://www.growyourcharityonline.com/uk resource from
 Google, Media Trust and Charity Technology Trust.



 We hope you find the above resources helpful for your organisation - and,
 once again, thank you for your application to the Global Impact Challenge
 in the UK.



 Sincerely,



 The Global Impact Challenge Team

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] If you are interested in the google grants results.

2013-05-23 Thread Jon Davies
We didn't apply this time but thanks for the offer. We probably need to be
more nimble next time.

On 23 May 2013 10:23, Andy Mabbett pigsotw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I hadn't heard that we were applying, but I've made a successful
 application in the past, so happy to assist with future bids.
 On May 23, 2013 8:54 AM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 (Certainly something we should consider f they do it again JD)
 

 We were blown away by the thoughtfulness and innovation in the hundreds
 of fantastic submissions we received. We unfortunately had to make some
 tough decisions in narrowing down the pool and wanted to let you know that
 the project submitted by your organisation was not selected as a one of the
 10 finalists. We want to sincerely thank you for the time, thought and
 energy you put into your application.



 While we can’t include all projects in the next phase of the Global
 Impact Challenge, we do want to share information about various resources
 available to UK non-profits:



 · *Google Grants* empowers non-profit organisations, through
 $10,000 per month in in-kind AdWords™ advertising, to promote their
 missions and initiatives on Google.co.uk. Get started at
 http://www.google.co.uk/grants/.

 · *YouTube for Non-profits* helps you tell your organisation’s
 story through videos. Benefits include donation buttons that allow viewers
 to contribute to your cause online right from YouTube videos,
 Call-to-action overlays that let viewers click to visit your website or
 learn more, live streaming video footage right onto your YouTube channel,
 and much more. Get started at
 https://www.youtube.com/nonprofits?info_mode=worldwide.

 · *Google Earth Outreach* supports non-profit organizations with
 software grants for Enterprise versions of our mapping products. Eligible
 non-profits can apply for a grant of Google Earth Pro, Google Maps Engine,
 Google Maps API for Business and Google Maps Coordinate. Get started here:
 http://www.google.co.uk/earth/outreach/grants/software/index.html



 Also learn more about how video, social media and other online tools can
 help you do more on a limited budget by checking out the Grow Your
 Charity Online http://www.growyourcharityonline.com/uk resource from
 Google, Media Trust and Charity Technology Trust.



 We hope you find the above resources helpful for your organisation - and,
 once again, thank you for your application to the Global Impact Challenge
 in the UK.



 Sincerely,



 The Global Impact Challenge Team

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] If you are interested in the google grants results.

2013-05-23 Thread fabian
Hi all,

I think we need a different approach if we are to put in bids for
substantial amounts of money. It is probably best not to simply follow
funders objectives, but rather to focus on a goal around which we have
already gained consensus, something which would make a real difference and
then start seeking out relevant funders.

Too often in the past  have been involved with groups who have gone into a
flurry of activity to come up with a project which fits some funding
criteria, when there is not enough time to work up a realistic proposal.
Then everything grinds to a halt, until another perceived opportunity
arises when a new cycle of frantic activity is initiated, usually with the
same result: nothing.

I would suggest that if people are serious about going for a substantial
slice of funding, then they work up the idea and then see if the concensus
of the community is ready to back them. At that stage, it will then be a
matter of finding funders interested in the project.

all the best

fabian
(User:Leutha)

 Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 10:27:59 +0100
 From: Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk
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 We didn't apply this time but thanks for the offer. We probably need to be
 more nimble next time.

 On 23 May 2013 10:23, Andy Mabbett pigsotw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I hadn't heard that we were applying, but I've made a successful
 application in the past, so happy to assist with future bids.
 On May 23, 2013 8:54 AM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:

 (Certainly something we should consider f they do it again JD)
 

 We were blown away by the thoughtfulness and innovation in the hundreds
 of fantastic submissions we received. We unfortunately had to make some
 tough decisions in narrowing down the pool and wanted to let you know
 that
 the project submitted by your organisation was not selected as a one of
 the
 10 finalists. We want to sincerely thank you for the time, thought and
 energy you put into your application.



 While we can’t include all projects in the next phase of the Global
 Impact Challenge, we do want to share information about various
 resources
 available to UK non-profits:



 · *Google Grants* empowers non-profit organisations, through
 $10,000 per month in in-kind AdWords™ advertising, to promote their
 missions and initiatives on Google.co.uk. Get started at
 http://www.google.co.uk/grants/.

 · *YouTube for Non-profits* helps you tell your
 organisation’s
 story through videos. Benefits include donation buttons that allow
 viewers
 to contribute to your cause online right from YouTube videos,
 Call-to-action overlays that let viewers click to visit your website or
 learn more, live streaming video footage right onto your YouTube
 channel,
 and much more. Get started at
 https://www.youtube.com/nonprofits?info_mode=worldwide.

 · *Google Earth Outreach* supports non-profit organizations
 with
 software grants for Enterprise versions of our mapping products.
 Eligible
 non-profits can apply for a grant of Google Earth Pro, Google Maps
 Engine,
 Google Maps API for Business and Google Maps Coordinate. Get started
 here:
 http://www.google.co.uk/earth/outreach/grants/software/index.html



 Also learn more about how video, social media and other online tools
 can
 help you do more on a limited budget by checking out the Grow Your
 Charity Online http://www.growyourcharityonline.com/uk resource from
 Google, Media Trust and Charity Technology Trust.



 We hope you find the above resources helpful for your organisation -
 and,
 once again, thank you for your application to the Global Impact
 Challenge
 in the UK.



 Sincerely,



 The Global Impact Challenge Team

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] If you are interested in the google grants results.

2013-05-23 Thread Charles Matthews
On 23 May 2013 11:19,  fab...@unpopular.org.uk wrote:

 I would suggest that if people are serious about going for a substantial
 slice of funding, then they work up the idea and then see if the concensus
 of the community is ready to back them. At that stage, it will then be a
 matter of finding funders interested in the project.

I think Fabian's comment has merit. But there is surely more going on here.

Taking the Wikimania bid as a relevant example: yes, a motivated
smallish group is a good place to start. To avoid chicken-and-egg
issues, I don't think people beginning with a blank sheet of paper, in
a complete vacuum of prospects, is likely to be the most fruitful in
terms of outcomes.

Any application by the charity is going to have to be signed off by
the Board. Some sort of incubator for ideas would seem to be
required, that had input from the Board, probably only via vague
steers though.

Jon used the word nimble, which sums up fairly well what Google can
be presumed to have sought in giving a timescale of just a few weeks.
That sort of timescale is certainly not compatible with building a
consensus from scratch.

Finally, WMUK does have a fundraiser. Katherine Bavage (I know) was
dealing with key Gift Aid matters when the bid came up, which is a
classic bird in hand versus two in bush situation. External grant
funding would end up on her desk, in any practical scenario with forms
to fill. Said nimbleness and agility would probably be based on
position papers, and the office staff having been given time to
anticipate the issues.

Charles

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] If you are interested in the google grants results.

2013-05-23 Thread Andy Mabbett
Google grants isn't money, it's free, targeted advertising on Google
results pages. We can use that in line with our existing aims and
objectives, whether we push fund-raising, events, or just general awareness.
On May 23, 2013 12:19 PM, fab...@unpopular.org.uk wrote:

 Hi all,

 I think we need a different approach if we are to put in bids for
 substantial amounts of money. It is probably best not to simply follow
 funders objectives, but rather to focus on a goal around which we have
 already gained consensus, something which would make a real difference and
 then start seeking out relevant funders.

 Too often in the past  have been involved with groups who have gone into a
 flurry of activity to come up with a project which fits some funding
 criteria, when there is not enough time to work up a realistic proposal.
 Then everything grinds to a halt, until another perceived opportunity
 arises when a new cycle of frantic activity is initiated, usually with the
 same result: nothing.

 I would suggest that if people are serious about going for a substantial
 slice of funding, then they work up the idea and then see if the concensus
 of the community is ready to back them. At that stage, it will then be a
 matter of finding funders interested in the project.

 all the best

 fabian
 (User:Leutha)

  Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 10:27:59 +0100
  From: Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk
  To: UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
  Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] If you are interested in the google
grants  results.
  Message-ID:
CAM7S2qoAWNF7p1tzM=
 pp5fd4g7n2m4eqkklreec6kocaff8...@mail.gmail.com
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
 
  We didn't apply this time but thanks for the offer. We probably need to
 be
  more nimble next time.
 
  On 23 May 2013 10:23, Andy Mabbett pigsotw...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I hadn't heard that we were applying, but I've made a successful
  application in the past, so happy to assist with future bids.
  On May 23, 2013 8:54 AM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk
  wrote:
 
  (Certainly something we should consider f they do it again JD)
  
 
  We were blown away by the thoughtfulness and innovation in the hundreds
  of fantastic submissions we received. We unfortunately had to make some
  tough decisions in narrowing down the pool and wanted to let you know
  that
  the project submitted by your organisation was not selected as a one of
  the
  10 finalists. We want to sincerely thank you for the time, thought and
  energy you put into your application.
 
 
 
  While we can’t include all projects in the next phase of the Global
  Impact Challenge, we do want to share information about various
  resources
  available to UK non-profits:
 
 
 
  · *Google Grants* empowers non-profit organisations, through
  $10,000 per month in in-kind AdWordsâ„¢ advertising, to promote their
  missions and initiatives on Google.co.uk. Get started at
  http://www.google.co.uk/grants/.
 
  · *YouTube for Non-profits* helps you tell your
  organisation’s
  story through videos. Benefits include donation buttons that allow
  viewers
  to contribute to your cause online right from YouTube videos,
  Call-to-action overlays that let viewers click to visit your website or
  learn more, live streaming video footage right onto your YouTube
  channel,
  and much more. Get started at
  https://www.youtube.com/nonprofits?info_mode=worldwide.
 
  · *Google Earth Outreach* supports non-profit organizations
  with
  software grants for Enterprise versions of our mapping products.
  Eligible
  non-profits can apply for a grant of Google Earth Pro, Google Maps
  Engine,
  Google Maps API for Business and Google Maps Coordinate. Get started
  here:
  http://www.google.co.uk/earth/outreach/grants/software/index.html
 
 
 
  Also learn more about how video, social media and other online tools
  can
  help you do more on a limited budget by checking out the Grow Your
  Charity Online http://www.growyourcharityonline.com/uk resource from
  Google, Media Trust and Charity Technology Trust.
 
 
 
  We hope you find the above resources helpful for your organisation -
  and,
  once again, thank you for your application to the Global Impact
  Challenge
  in the UK.
 
 
 
  Sincerely,
 
 
 
  The Global Impact Challenge Team
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] If you are interested in the google grants results.

2013-05-23 Thread Stevie Benton
Just to clear up any confusion, the main point of interest I think is the
Global Impact Challenge, which was tentatively discussed on the UK
wiki herehttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Google_Global_Impact_Challenge
.

Unfortunately the shortness of the timescale was somewhat prohibitive for
Wikimedia UK this time around but it's certainly something that is worth
keeping an eye on for the next time.

Hope this helps,

Stevie


On 23 May 2013 14:48, Andy Mabbett pigsotw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Google grants isn't money, it's free, targeted advertising on Google
 results pages. We can use that in line with our existing aims and
 objectives, whether we push fund-raising, events, or just general awareness.
 On May 23, 2013 12:19 PM, fab...@unpopular.org.uk wrote:

 Hi all,

 I think we need a different approach if we are to put in bids for
 substantial amounts of money. It is probably best not to simply follow
 funders objectives, but rather to focus on a goal around which we have
 already gained consensus, something which would make a real difference and
 then start seeking out relevant funders.

 Too often in the past  have been involved with groups who have gone into a
 flurry of activity to come up with a project which fits some funding
 criteria, when there is not enough time to work up a realistic proposal.
 Then everything grinds to a halt, until another perceived opportunity
 arises when a new cycle of frantic activity is initiated, usually with the
 same result: nothing.

 I would suggest that if people are serious about going for a substantial
 slice of funding, then they work up the idea and then see if the concensus
 of the community is ready to back them. At that stage, it will then be a
 matter of finding funders interested in the project.

 all the best

 fabian
 (User:Leutha)

  Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 10:27:59 +0100
  From: Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk
  To: UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
  Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] If you are interested in the google
grants  results.
  Message-ID:
CAM7S2qoAWNF7p1tzM=
 pp5fd4g7n2m4eqkklreec6kocaff8...@mail.gmail.com
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
 
  We didn't apply this time but thanks for the offer. We probably need to
 be
  more nimble next time.
 
  On 23 May 2013 10:23, Andy Mabbett pigsotw...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I hadn't heard that we were applying, but I've made a successful
  application in the past, so happy to assist with future bids.
  On May 23, 2013 8:54 AM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk
  wrote:
 
  (Certainly something we should consider f they do it again JD)
  
 
  We were blown away by the thoughtfulness and innovation in the
 hundreds
  of fantastic submissions we received. We unfortunately had to make
 some
  tough decisions in narrowing down the pool and wanted to let you know
  that
  the project submitted by your organisation was not selected as a one
 of
  the
  10 finalists. We want to sincerely thank you for the time, thought and
  energy you put into your application.
 
 
 
  While we can’t include all projects in the next phase of the Global
  Impact Challenge, we do want to share information about various
  resources
  available to UK non-profits:
 
 
 
  · *Google Grants* empowers non-profit organisations, through
  $10,000 per month in in-kind AdWordsâ„¢ advertising, to promote their
  missions and initiatives on Google.co.uk. Get started at
  http://www.google.co.uk/grants/.
 
  · *YouTube for Non-profits* helps you tell your
  organisation’s
  story through videos. Benefits include donation buttons that allow
  viewers
  to contribute to your cause online right from YouTube videos,
  Call-to-action overlays that let viewers click to visit your website
 or
  learn more, live streaming video footage right onto your YouTube
  channel,
  and much more. Get started at
  https://www.youtube.com/nonprofits?info_mode=worldwide.
 
  · *Google Earth Outreach* supports non-profit organizations
  with
  software grants for Enterprise versions of our mapping products.
  Eligible
  non-profits can apply for a grant of Google Earth Pro, Google Maps
  Engine,
  Google Maps API for Business and Google Maps Coordinate. Get started
  here:
  http://www.google.co.uk/earth/outreach/grants/software/index.html
 
 
 
  Also learn more about how video, social media and other online tools
  can
  help you do more on a limited budget by checking out the Grow Your
  Charity Online http://www.growyourcharityonline.com/uk resource
 from
  Google, Media Trust and Charity Technology Trust.
 
 
 
  We hope you find the above resources helpful for your organisation -
  and,
  once again, thank you for your application to the Global Impact
  Challenge
  in the UK.
 
 
 
  Sincerely,
 
 
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] If you are interested in the google grants results.

2013-05-23 Thread Jon Davies
Google have a grants system (go back to the start of the string) Of course
we could try and get more page hits ...:)

On 23 May 2013 14:48, Andy Mabbett pigsotw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Google grants isn't money, it's free, targeted advertising on Google
 results pages. We can use that in line with our existing aims and
 objectives, whether we push fund-raising, events, or just general awareness.
  On May 23, 2013 12:19 PM, fab...@unpopular.org.uk wrote:

 Hi all,

 I think we need a different approach if we are to put in bids for
 substantial amounts of money. It is probably best not to simply follow
 funders objectives, but rather to focus on a goal around which we have
 already gained consensus, something which would make a real difference and
 then start seeking out relevant funders.

 Too often in the past  have been involved with groups who have gone into a
 flurry of activity to come up with a project which fits some funding
 criteria, when there is not enough time to work up a realistic proposal.
 Then everything grinds to a halt, until another perceived opportunity
 arises when a new cycle of frantic activity is initiated, usually with the
 same result: nothing.

 I would suggest that if people are serious about going for a substantial
 slice of funding, then they work up the idea and then see if the concensus
 of the community is ready to back them. At that stage, it will then be a
 matter of finding funders interested in the project.

 all the best

 fabian
 (User:Leutha)

  Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 10:27:59 +0100
  From: Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk
  To: UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
  Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] If you are interested in the google
grants  results.
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  We didn't apply this time but thanks for the offer. We probably need to
 be
  more nimble next time.
 
  On 23 May 2013 10:23, Andy Mabbett pigsotw...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I hadn't heard that we were applying, but I've made a successful
  application in the past, so happy to assist with future bids.
  On May 23, 2013 8:54 AM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk
  wrote:
 
  (Certainly something we should consider f they do it again JD)
  
 
  We were blown away by the thoughtfulness and innovation in the
 hundreds
  of fantastic submissions we received. We unfortunately had to make
 some
  tough decisions in narrowing down the pool and wanted to let you know
  that
  the project submitted by your organisation was not selected as a one
 of
  the
  10 finalists. We want to sincerely thank you for the time, thought and
  energy you put into your application.
 
 
 
  While we can’t include all projects in the next phase of the Global
  Impact Challenge, we do want to share information about various
  resources
  available to UK non-profits:
 
 
 
  · *Google Grants* empowers non-profit organisations, through
  $10,000 per month in in-kind AdWordsâ„¢ advertising, to promote their
  missions and initiatives on Google.co.uk. Get started at
  http://www.google.co.uk/grants/.
 
  · *YouTube for Non-profits* helps you tell your
  organisation’s
  story through videos. Benefits include donation buttons that allow
  viewers
  to contribute to your cause online right from YouTube videos,
  Call-to-action overlays that let viewers click to visit your website
 or
  learn more, live streaming video footage right onto your YouTube
  channel,
  and much more. Get started at
  https://www.youtube.com/nonprofits?info_mode=worldwide.
 
  · *Google Earth Outreach* supports non-profit organizations
  with
  software grants for Enterprise versions of our mapping products.
  Eligible
  non-profits can apply for a grant of Google Earth Pro, Google Maps
  Engine,
  Google Maps API for Business and Google Maps Coordinate. Get started
  here:
  http://www.google.co.uk/earth/outreach/grants/software/index.html
 
 
 
  Also learn more about how video, social media and other online tools
  can
  help you do more on a limited budget by checking out the Grow Your
  Charity Online http://www.growyourcharityonline.com/uk resource
 from
  Google, Media Trust and Charity Technology Trust.
 
 
 
  We hope you find the above resources helpful for your organisation -
  and,
  once again, thank you for your application to the Global Impact
  Challenge
  in the UK.
 
 
 
  Sincerely,
 
 
 
  The Global Impact Challenge Team
 
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] If you are interested in the google grants results.

2013-05-23 Thread Charles Matthews
On 23 May 2013 14:53, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
 Google have a grants system (go back to the start of the string) Of course
 we could try and get more page hits ...:)

Yes, some cross-purposes here. https://globalimpactchallenge.withgoogle.com/
and http://www.google.co.uk/grants/ .

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] If you are interested in the google grants results.

2013-05-23 Thread Katherine Bavage
Staff capacity is /an/ issue. With the benefits of collaboration on wiki in
drafting applications, bid writing needn't be staff led but staff supported
(you guys write the pitch, I support it with numbers/details where
possible).

The challenge is that good funding bids do require quite a lot of worth to
write, deliver, and evaluate to report back to funders, and will need
approval by the board because they commit the charity to delivering
outcomes not envisioned by current staffing levels or activity programme.

If capacity isn't forthcoming from the community to deliver this then we
have a problem -  but it so not think it is an insoluble one.

What about putting together a group of volunteers who are 1) Good at
writing copy 2) Interested in generating fundable-project ideas 3)
Interested in identifying funding opportunities 4) Interested in looking at
how we make ourselves 'nimble' etc (probably collating the type of
information needed to support bids (impact stats) and developing supporting
processes to get approval for applications).

I've discussed some of this with Charles and Fabian in person before but
I'd be happy to look at maybe putting together a working group and having a
Skype meeting to throw together some ideas and start writing some of this
up on wiki?

*Katherine Bavage *
*Fundraising Manager *
*Wikimedia UK*
+44 20 7065 0752

Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

*Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*


On 23 May 2013 13:39, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.comwrote:

 On 23 May 2013 11:19,  fab...@unpopular.org.uk wrote:

  I would suggest that if people are serious about going for a substantial
  slice of funding, then they work up the idea and then see if the
 concensus
  of the community is ready to back them. At that stage, it will then be a
  matter of finding funders interested in the project.

 I think Fabian's comment has merit. But there is surely more going on here.

 Taking the Wikimania bid as a relevant example: yes, a motivated
 smallish group is a good place to start. To avoid chicken-and-egg
 issues, I don't think people beginning with a blank sheet of paper, in
 a complete vacuum of prospects, is likely to be the most fruitful in
 terms of outcomes.

 Any application by the charity is going to have to be signed off by
 the Board. Some sort of incubator for ideas would seem to be
 required, that had input from the Board, probably only via vague
 steers though.

 Jon used the word nimble, which sums up fairly well what Google can
 be presumed to have sought in giving a timescale of just a few weeks.
 That sort of timescale is certainly not compatible with building a
 consensus from scratch.

 Finally, WMUK does have a fundraiser. Katherine Bavage (I know) was
 dealing with key Gift Aid matters when the bid came up, which is a
 classic bird in hand versus two in bush situation. External grant
 funding would end up on her desk, in any practical scenario with forms
 to fill. Said nimbleness and agility would probably be based on
 position papers, and the office staff having been given time to
 anticipate the issues.

 Charles

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