[Wikimediauk-l] Ordnance Survey consultation - should it be made free with no restrictions?

2010-01-30 Thread Michael Peel
Thanks to @mia_out on Twitter, I've just found out about:

http://osconsult.ernestmarples.com/

The Government have launched a consultation on how to make Ordnance  
Survey data free with no restrictions on reuse.

Full details are given in:
http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/corporate/pdf/1411177.pdf

The deadline for responding is 17 March 2010.

What do you think would be the best approach to take here? A single  
official comment from Wikimedia UK? Persuading lots of Wikimedians to  
emphatically say yes? Both of these? It isn't clear to me whether  
they want detailed, logical responses or large numbers of responses  
saying the same thing, although I haven't read through the whole  
document yet...

Mike

___
Wikimedia UK mailing list
wikimediau...@wikimedia.org
http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org


Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ordnance Survey consultation - should it be made free with no restrictions?

2010-01-30 Thread David Gerard
On 30 January 2010 20:29, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:

 What do you think would be the best approach to take here? A single
 official comment from Wikimedia UK? Persuading lots of Wikimedians to
 emphatically say yes? Both of these? It isn't clear to me whether
 they want detailed, logical responses or large numbers of responses
 saying the same thing, although I haven't read through the whole
 document yet...


Both, possibly.

Considering the PM Petition response was basically fuck off, this
one may take a bit of leverage. OS are *resisting bitterly*.

Wonder if a representation from WMF would help or hinder.


- d.

___
Wikimedia UK mailing list
wikimediau...@wikimedia.org
http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org


Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ordnance Survey consultation - should it be made free with no restrictions?

2010-01-30 Thread geni
2010/1/30 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
 On 30 January 2010 20:29, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:

 What do you think would be the best approach to take here? A single
 official comment from Wikimedia UK? Persuading lots of Wikimedians to
 emphatically say yes? Both of these? It isn't clear to me whether
 they want detailed, logical responses or large numbers of responses
 saying the same thing, although I haven't read through the whole
 document yet...


 Both, possibly.

 Considering the PM Petition response was basically fuck off, this
 one may take a bit of leverage. OS are *resisting bitterly*.

 Wonder if a representation from WMF would help or hinder.


 - d.

The data or the maps though. Copyright wise the two present a
different situation.

However It's not as significant as it might seem. Open street maps
combined with contour data from the 7th series which is drifting into
the public domain render the issues mostly one of convenience.

In terms of challenges tracking down copies that the owners will let
you scan of OS maps already in the public domain is going to be more
of a long term challenge.

-- 
geni

___
Wikimedia UK mailing list
wikimediau...@wikimedia.org
http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org


Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ordnance Survey consultation - should it be made free with no restrictions?

2010-01-30 Thread Brian McNeil
On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 21:58 +, geni wrote:
 2010/1/30 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
  On 30 January 2010 20:29, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:
 
  What do you think would be the best approach to take here? A single
  official comment from Wikimedia UK? Persuading lots of Wikimedians to
  emphatically say yes? Both of these? It isn't clear to me whether
  they want detailed, logical responses or large numbers of responses
  saying the same thing, although I haven't read through the whole
  document yet...
 
 
  Both, possibly.
 
  Considering the PM Petition response was basically fuck off, this
  one may take a bit of leverage. OS are *resisting bitterly*.
 
  Wonder if a representation from WMF would help or hinder.

 The data or the maps though. Copyright wise the two present a
 different situation.
 
 However It's not as significant as it might seem. Open street maps
 combined with contour data from the 7th series which is drifting into
 the public domain render the issues mostly one of convenience.
 
 In terms of challenges tracking down copies that the owners will let
 you scan of OS maps already in the public domain is going to be more
 of a long term challenge.

This is a political thing that the WMF, or at least WMUK, should be
taking an active interest in. Were OS in the US all the data would be
PD.



-- 
Brian McNeil brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org
Wikinewsie.org


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
___
Wikimedia UK mailing list
wikimediau...@wikimedia.org
http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org