Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photo contests (was visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons)
Thanks Mike, I've trawled through those that aren't schools, found some good photos on either Commons or the Geograph so the list is quite a bit shorter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_requested_photographs_in_Greater_Manchester, but I've left the schools as, well that's really not my bag. Anyone else want to adopt an English county? Jonathan On 12 August 2015 at 21:23, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: With WLM: I was hoping that this would take place again this year, particularly since it's been so successful in the past. Perhaps it could focus on quality photos rather than quantity if we have reasonably comprehensive coverage of listed structures now? Or perhaps we could think of a new topic for such a photography competition - perhaps we could focus on statues, new buildings, ships, or something else? I guess it depends on what else might have a standardised listing available. I'd be interested in volunteering to help, particularly with the on-wiki infrastructure side of things, but I definitely wouldn't be able to take a lead. With requested photos: thanks WSC for the offer! I'd be happy to adopt the Greater Manchester county, and to do my best to photograph the requested locations if they don't already have available photographs. Thanks, Mike On 12 Aug 2015, at 16:32, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: I have been going through the not particularly useful category Wikipedia requested photographs in the United Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_requested_photographs_in_the_United_Kingdom removing some that are done, doing a few either via commons or by importing them from the Geograph, and most importantly moving a lot of them down to the much more useful level of nation or in England to County. So if you fancy taking a few photos and putting them on Wikipedia we probably have some current requests near you! Anyone fancy adopting a county? First couple to call for help I will go through the requests for that county next week and pick off any I can import from the Geograph, which should make it a bit more practical to do the rest (offer excludes London, Scotland and Wales due to them being too big). Regards Jonathan On 12 August 2015 at 10:45, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Hello Edward, everyone, If there's a volunteer willing to take the lead on Monuments then we can offer a little logistical support. However, the volunteers that delivered it last year said it was an enormous amount of work and don't have the time. If you would like to lead on it then we can help, although time is very short at this point. Thanks and regards, Stevie On 12 August 2015 at 10:35, Ed Hand edwar...@gmail.com wrote: Are we taking part in Wiki Loves Monuments this year? No mention of the UK here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Participating_countries best wsihes Edward On 10 August 2015 at 16:43, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: I have now used the visual editor for more than a hundred edits since the speed up. I agree that the classic editor is generally faster and I suspect that will be especially true for anyone editing large articles as V/E's still lacks section editing. I like the way V/E supports infobox editing, one of the things I sometimes do is add images to articles and with the classic editor you usually have the pain of having to check the template documentation to find out what the parameters are for image and caption (sadly and for no obvious reason these parameters are unlikely to be image and caption). V/E is actually quite intuitive here in allowing you to run through the unused parameters of the infobox. Table editing is more nuanced, on the one hand there are handy looking options that come up inviting you to delete or add columns or rows and I'm sure at some point I will find an opportunity to use them. But editing the contents of a cell in a table is challenging, not a task I would suggest to a newbie and far less intuitive than using the classic editor. Adding images from commons is really quite impressive in V/E, I haven't yet been in the situation of having to work out which Newcastle V/E is prompting me with and it would be good to know whether V/E is using wiki data links, keywords, geocodes or some combination. But however it does it the images it has prompted me with so far have been pretty good. Not sure between Joe and Andy's positions re showing diffs. I have had very little to do with the education program, but I appreciate for educators knowing how to look at the contributions of a student is important. I think that V/E would be a better entry point for technophobes whilst clearly the classic editor is better for the technoscenti. How you recruit one or other group for an editathon without stereotyping is an interesting conundrum. If you have
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photo contests (was visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons)
On 12 August 2015 at 21:23, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: Or perhaps we could think of a new topic for such a photography competition - perhaps we could focus on statues, new buildings, ships, or something else? I guess it depends on what else might have a standardised listing available. On that, it is worth noting the sequel to YourPaintings is up and running, from the Public Catalogue Foundation. It has a focus on statues. Their new website YourArt is on the way. So, an approach to the PCF for metadata could work out. Charles ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photo contests (was visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons)
I have been going through the not particularly useful category Wikipedia requested photographs in the United Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_requested_photographs_in_the_United_Kingdom removing some that are done, doing a few either via commons or by importing them from the Geograph, and most importantly moving a lot of them down to the much more useful level of nation or in England to County. So if you fancy taking a few photos and putting them on Wikipedia we probably have some current requests near you! Anyone fancy adopting a county? First couple to call for help I will go through the requests for that county next week and pick off any I can import from the Geograph, which should make it a bit more practical to do the rest (offer excludes London, Scotland and Wales due to them being too big). Regards Jonathan On 12 August 2015 at 10:45, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Hello Edward, everyone, If there's a volunteer willing to take the lead on Monuments then we can offer a little logistical support. However, the volunteers that delivered it last year said it was an enormous amount of work and don't have the time. If you would like to lead on it then we can help, although time is very short at this point. Thanks and regards, Stevie On 12 August 2015 at 10:35, Ed Hand edwar...@gmail.com wrote: Are we taking part in Wiki Loves Monuments this year? No mention of the UK here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Participating_countries best wsihes Edward On 10 August 2015 at 16:43, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: I have now used the visual editor for more than a hundred edits since the speed up. I agree that the classic editor is generally faster and I suspect that will be especially true for anyone editing large articles as V/E's still lacks section editing. I like the way V/E supports infobox editing, one of the things I sometimes do is add images to articles and with the classic editor you usually have the pain of having to check the template documentation to find out what the parameters are for image and caption (sadly and for no obvious reason these parameters are unlikely to be image and caption). V/E is actually quite intuitive here in allowing you to run through the unused parameters of the infobox. Table editing is more nuanced, on the one hand there are handy looking options that come up inviting you to delete or add columns or rows and I'm sure at some point I will find an opportunity to use them. But editing the contents of a cell in a table is challenging, not a task I would suggest to a newbie and far less intuitive than using the classic editor. Adding images from commons is really quite impressive in V/E, I haven't yet been in the situation of having to work out which Newcastle V/E is prompting me with and it would be good to know whether V/E is using wiki data links, keywords, geocodes or some combination. But however it does it the images it has prompted me with so far have been pretty good. Not sure between Joe and Andy's positions re showing diffs. I have had very little to do with the education program, but I appreciate for educators knowing how to look at the contributions of a student is important. I think that V/E would be a better entry point for technophobes whilst clearly the classic editor is better for the technoscenti. How you recruit one or other group for an editathon without stereotyping is an interesting conundrum. If you have access to a large mailing list of people who might be interested then you could do two sorts of sessions, one emphasising that this was Wikipedia editing for anyone, especially people who tried it in the past and found it technically arcane. Another promising a session led by a power user showing how to be an effective editor on Wikipedia perhaps billed as this session is suitable for anyone with any programming experience, however rusty or archaic. Alternatively if you have a good ratio of experienced editors to newbies you can guard people and show them the editor most suitable for them. Regards Jonathan On 9 Aug 2015, at 01:03, Richard Farmbrough rich...@farmbrough.co.uk wrote: I guess when it is sufficiently fast that I don't have time to hit edit source instead before it loads, I will start using it on other projects. Until then, a good character editor beats a good WIMPS editor - pity it's not a good character editor. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photo contests (was visual Editor is now worth using in outreach editathons)
With WLM: I was hoping that this would take place again this year, particularly since it's been so successful in the past. Perhaps it could focus on quality photos rather than quantity if we have reasonably comprehensive coverage of listed structures now? Or perhaps we could think of a new topic for such a photography competition - perhaps we could focus on statues, new buildings, ships, or something else? I guess it depends on what else might have a standardised listing available. I'd be interested in volunteering to help, particularly with the on-wiki infrastructure side of things, but I definitely wouldn't be able to take a lead. With requested photos: thanks WSC for the offer! I'd be happy to adopt the Greater Manchester county, and to do my best to photograph the requested locations if they don't already have available photographs. Thanks, Mike On 12 Aug 2015, at 16:32, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: I have been going through the not particularly useful category Wikipedia requested photographs in the United Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_requested_photographs_in_the_United_Kingdom removing some that are done, doing a few either via commons or by importing them from the Geograph, and most importantly moving a lot of them down to the much more useful level of nation or in England to County. So if you fancy taking a few photos and putting them on Wikipedia we probably have some current requests near you! Anyone fancy adopting a county? First couple to call for help I will go through the requests for that county next week and pick off any I can import from the Geograph, which should make it a bit more practical to do the rest (offer excludes London, Scotland and Wales due to them being too big). Regards Jonathan On 12 August 2015 at 10:45, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk mailto:stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Hello Edward, everyone, If there's a volunteer willing to take the lead on Monuments then we can offer a little logistical support. However, the volunteers that delivered it last year said it was an enormous amount of work and don't have the time. If you would like to lead on it then we can help, although time is very short at this point. Thanks and regards, Stevie On 12 August 2015 at 10:35, Ed Hand edwar...@gmail.com mailto:edwar...@gmail.com wrote: Are we taking part in Wiki Loves Monuments this year? No mention of the UK here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Participating_countries https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Participating_countries best wsihes Edward On 10 August 2015 at 16:43, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com mailto:werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: I have now used the visual editor for more than a hundred edits since the speed up. I agree that the classic editor is generally faster and I suspect that will be especially true for anyone editing large articles as V/E's still lacks section editing. I like the way V/E supports infobox editing, one of the things I sometimes do is add images to articles and with the classic editor you usually have the pain of having to check the template documentation to find out what the parameters are for image and caption (sadly and for no obvious reason these parameters are unlikely to be image and caption). V/E is actually quite intuitive here in allowing you to run through the unused parameters of the infobox. Table editing is more nuanced, on the one hand there are handy looking options that come up inviting you to delete or add columns or rows and I'm sure at some point I will find an opportunity to use them. But editing the contents of a cell in a table is challenging, not a task I would suggest to a newbie and far less intuitive than using the classic editor. Adding images from commons is really quite impressive in V/E, I haven't yet been in the situation of having to work out which Newcastle V/E is prompting me with and it would be good to know whether V/E is using wiki data links, keywords, geocodes or some combination. But however it does it the images it has prompted me with so far have been pretty good. Not sure between Joe and Andy's positions re showing diffs. I have had very little to do with the education program, but I appreciate for educators knowing how to look at the contributions of a student is important. I think that V/E would be a better entry point for technophobes whilst clearly the classic editor is better for the technoscenti. How you recruit one or other group for an editathon without stereotyping is an interesting conundrum. If you have access to a large mailing list of people who might be interested then you could do two sorts of sessions, one emphasising that this was Wikipedia editing for anyone, especially people who
