[Wikimediauk-l] Russian Wikipedia blackout.

2012-07-10 Thread Gordon Joly


FYI


http://boingboing.net/2012/07/09/russian-wikipedia-blacks-out-o.html

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Russian Wikipedia blackout.

2012-07-10 Thread WereSpielChequers
It is being discussed on the Wikimedia list, but what relevance is it to
Wikimedia UK?

WSC

On 10 July 2012 07:11, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:


 FYI


 http://boingboing.net/2012/07/**09/russian-wikipedia-blacks-**out-o.htmlhttp://boingboing.net/2012/07/09/russian-wikipedia-blacks-out-o.html

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Russian Wikipedia blackout.

2012-07-10 Thread James Farrar
It's interesting to the community to learn that other countries and
languages have similar problems to those that have affected us here.

And not everyone on this list is subscribed to the main Wikimedia list.

On 10 July 2012 10:22, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.comwrote:

 It is being discussed on the Wikimedia list, but what relevance is it to
 Wikimedia UK?

 WSC


 On 10 July 2012 07:11, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote:


 FYI


 http://boingboing.net/2012/07/**09/russian-wikipedia-blacks-**out-o.htmlhttp://boingboing.net/2012/07/09/russian-wikipedia-blacks-out-o.html

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Russian Wikipedia blackout.

2012-07-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 July 2012 10:33, James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's interesting to the community to learn that other countries and
 languages have similar problems to those that have affected us here.


And, of course, we're already getting the phone calls ;-) (I have had
to beg off for today.)


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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Russian Wikipedia blackout.

2012-07-10 Thread Brian McNeil
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 10:33 +0100, James Farrar wrote:
 It's interesting to the community to learn that other countries and
 languages have similar problems to those that have affected us here.

s/affected/been inflicted upon/

Remember Virgin Killer and the IWF[1]? This quote from the 'quite
lively' discussion on the Wikinews article is quite, quite insightful
when it comes to looking at the people oh-so keen to screw up the
Internet with a think of teh chillun! mindset:

Perhaps the offence is in the eye of the beholder. The possible
 response of paedophiles has no more right to influence the rights of
 the rest of us to see such a thing that the possible response of
 foot-fetishists should dictate picture of shoes.

So, are the people who devote oh-so much effort, demanding considerable
attention, in 'protecting' the entire world from child pornography -
instead of going after those who produce it - perhaps borderline
paedophiles?

An amusing comment in discussion around Wikinews covering the Russian
blackout[2] was that there's growing evidence that blacklists on this
sort of material, which are invariably leaked regardless of security
measures, provide a go-to directory of extreme and extremist material.
The requisite technological infrastructure is likely far more expensive
than adequately funding the correct legal bodies (police etc.) to go
after the hosts and producers.



[1]https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/British_ISPs_restrict_access_to_Wikipedia_amid_child_pornography_allegations
[2]https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/%
27Imagine_a_world_without_free_knowledge%27,_in_Russia



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