Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Where are we with QRpedia?
Thanks Andreas and John. I'll get corrections made ASAP. Stevie On Jan 31, 2013 7:59 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Freopedia is spelt wrong. John Vandenberg. sent from Galaxy Note On Jan 31, 2013 6:34 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: There is an article on Wales Online today, Wikipedia: How a project launched in Monmouth has gone global, that requires some corrections. ---o0o--- Roger Bamkin is director of Wikimedia UK. Wikimedia is the body that operates Wikipedia. Read more: Wales Online http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/need-to-read/2013/01/31/wikipedia-how-a-project-launched-in-monmouth-has-gone-global-91466-32713327/#ixzz2JXIb7GFQ ---o0o--- Andreas On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.comwrote: Jon It does seem extraordinary that nobody seems able to write out a summary of what these arguments are. We are not asking for this information because we think it will lead to an acceptable agreement more quickly; we are asking because we want to know what is being done on our behalf. Joe On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.comwrote: On 21/01/13 17:10, Jon Davies wrote: However I do not think an acceptable agreement will come any more quickly if we rehearse the many and complicated arguments on this list. How did we get get here then? Gordo __**_ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-lhttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Where are we with QRpedia?
Thanks Stevie. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Thanks Andreas and John. I'll get corrections made ASAP. Stevie On Jan 31, 2013 7:59 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Freopedia is spelt wrong. John Vandenberg. sent from Galaxy Note On Jan 31, 2013 6:34 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: There is an article on Wales Online today, Wikipedia: How a project launched in Monmouth has gone global, that requires some corrections. ---o0o--- Roger Bamkin is director of Wikimedia UK. Wikimedia is the body that operates Wikipedia. Read more: Wales Online http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/need-to-read/2013/01/31/wikipedia-how-a-project-launched-in-monmouth-has-gone-global-91466-32713327/#ixzz2JXIb7GFQ ---o0o--- Andreas On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.com wrote: Jon It does seem extraordinary that nobody seems able to write out a summary of what these arguments are. We are not asking for this information because we think it will lead to an acceptable agreement more quickly; we are asking because we want to know what is being done on our behalf. Joe On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: On 21/01/13 17:10, Jon Davies wrote: However I do not think an acceptable agreement will come any more quickly if we rehearse the many and complicated arguments on this list. How did we get get here then? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Where are we with QRpedia?
Just seen the story, well done for getting those corrections. Thanks Roger On 31 January 2013 10:15, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Stevie. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Stevie Benton stevie.ben...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Thanks Andreas and John. I'll get corrections made ASAP. Stevie On Jan 31, 2013 7:59 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Freopedia is spelt wrong. John Vandenberg. sent from Galaxy Note On Jan 31, 2013 6:34 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: There is an article on Wales Online today, Wikipedia: How a project launched in Monmouth has gone global, that requires some corrections. ---o0o--- Roger Bamkin is director of Wikimedia UK. Wikimedia is the body that operates Wikipedia. Read more: Wales Online http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/need-to-read/2013/01/31/wikipedia-how-a-project-launched-in-monmouth-has-gone-global-91466-32713327/#ixzz2JXIb7GFQ ---o0o--- Andreas On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.com wrote: Jon It does seem extraordinary that nobody seems able to write out a summary of what these arguments are. We are not asking for this information because we think it will lead to an acceptable agreement more quickly; we are asking because we want to know what is being done on our behalf. Joe On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: On 21/01/13 17:10, Jon Davies wrote: However I do not think an acceptable agreement will come any more quickly if we rehearse the many and complicated arguments on this list. How did we get get here then? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- Roger Bamkin Victuallers Ltd 01332 702993 0758 2020815 Google+:Victuallers Skype:Victuallers1 Flickr:Victuallers2 ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Where are we with QRpedia?
My understanding was that QRpedia was used to generate the codes, but the codes on the plaques use qrwp.org. which has been publicly offered to the movement. I agree that we should not be promoting the use of QR codes unless we are reasonably confident that the site they link to is maintained by the movement or a registered charity with a compatible ethos. I'm hoping that the donation of qrwp.org is still on offer and not subject to whatever part of the negotiations is still ongoing. When and if a deal is finalised then the things I will be looking for include who is to own the two domains and whether the brand we will be using when we promote QR codes is within the movement or something similar. Personally I have no problem with us collaborating with something outside but of a similar nature, Geograph and Open street map come to mind as charities which we have or should collaborate with, or simply use but give due credit for. WSC On 31 January 2013 13:33, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: many thanks jon! personally i do not like that the qrpedia domain is registered cloaked, so nobody knows what comes out there later on. this, and the long time the topic could not be settled is imo enough to consider the name qrpedia as poisoned. maybe it's best to just leave qrpedia to the people who registered it and use another domain. qrcodes pointing to some website which then redirects to some url is no rocket sience, and widely used since quite a long time. at WMCH we use qrcodes at least in two working groups, international (tunesia e.g.) and GLAM. they are important to us, and i'd consider it high risk to mount qrcode stickers physically which then link to a site which has a cloaked owner. if qrpedia in 2 years time links to pussy galore there is huge cost involved to change all the stickers installed, beside the enormous reputational damage. rupert On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Joe (and lots of people) I really understand the sincerity of your interest and the need to get this settled. I can assure you that as I write two of the trustees are working hard to come to a solution that will be in the interest of the community and the movement in general. Jon. On 26 January 2013 11:39, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.com wrote: Jon It does seem extraordinary that nobody seems able to write out a summary of what these arguments are. We are not asking for this information because we think it will lead to an acceptable agreement more quickly; we are asking because we want to know what is being done on our behalf. Joe On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com wrote: On 21/01/13 17:10, Jon Davies wrote: However I do not think an acceptable agreement will come any more quickly if we rehearse the many and complicated arguments on this list. How did we get get here then? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Where are we with QRpedia?
There is an article on Wales Online today, Wikipedia: How a project launched in Monmouth has gone global, that requires some corrections. ---o0o--- Roger Bamkin is director of Wikimedia UK. Wikimedia is the body that operates Wikipedia. Read more: Wales Online http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/need-to-read/2013/01/31/wikipedia-how-a-project-launched-in-monmouth-has-gone-global-91466-32713327/#ixzz2JXIb7GFQ ---o0o--- Andreas On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.comwrote: Jon It does seem extraordinary that nobody seems able to write out a summary of what these arguments are. We are not asking for this information because we think it will lead to an acceptable agreement more quickly; we are asking because we want to know what is being done on our behalf. Joe On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.comwrote: On 21/01/13 17:10, Jon Davies wrote: However I do not think an acceptable agreement will come any more quickly if we rehearse the many and complicated arguments on this list. How did we get get here then? Gordo __**_ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-lhttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Where are we with QRpedia?
Freopedia is spelt wrong. John Vandenberg. sent from Galaxy Note On Jan 31, 2013 6:34 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: There is an article on Wales Online today, Wikipedia: How a project launched in Monmouth has gone global, that requires some corrections. ---o0o--- Roger Bamkin is director of Wikimedia UK. Wikimedia is the body that operates Wikipedia. Read more: Wales Online http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/need-to-read/2013/01/31/wikipedia-how-a-project-launched-in-monmouth-has-gone-global-91466-32713327/#ixzz2JXIb7GFQ ---o0o--- Andreas On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.comwrote: Jon It does seem extraordinary that nobody seems able to write out a summary of what these arguments are. We are not asking for this information because we think it will lead to an acceptable agreement more quickly; we are asking because we want to know what is being done on our behalf. Joe On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.comwrote: On 21/01/13 17:10, Jon Davies wrote: However I do not think an acceptable agreement will come any more quickly if we rehearse the many and complicated arguments on this list. How did we get get here then? Gordo __**_ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-lhttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Where are we with QRpedia?
Joe (and lots of people) I really understand the sincerity of your interest and the need to get this settled. I can assure you that as I write two of the trustees are working hard to come to a solution that will be in the interest of the community and the movement in general. Jon. On 26 January 2013 11:39, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.com wrote: Jon It does seem extraordinary that nobody seems able to write out a summary of what these arguments are. We are not asking for this information because we think it will lead to an acceptable agreement more quickly; we are asking because we want to know what is being done on our behalf. Joe On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.comwrote: On 21/01/13 17:10, Jon Davies wrote: However I do not think an acceptable agreement will come any more quickly if we rehearse the many and complicated arguments on this list. How did we get get here then? Gordo __**_ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-lhttp://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] Where are we with QRpedia?
*QRpedia - the current position.* There is some interest on where we are with QRpedia and much speculation. I wanted to respond as I take the interest seriously. WMUK is currently negotiating in good faith with Roger Bamkin and his colleague Terence Eden with regard to ownership of QRpedia. This has been a complicated process and is ongoing. After several attempts to reach agreement the board of WMUK has entrusted negotiations to Saad Choudri, a trustee who is a practising copyright lawyer. He has been reporting regularly to me, and the board, as to the negotiations. I can understand that our community may feel that this is a process that has continued for far too long and I'm sure everyone involved would agree with this. However I do not think an acceptable agreement will come any more quickly if we rehearse the many and complicated arguments on this list. What I can assure you is that the trustees understand the need to reach an agreement soon or disassociate the charity from any involvement in QRpedia. We will let the community know as soon as we have something to report. Jon. -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Where are we with QRpedia?
On 21/01/13 17:10, Jon Davies wrote: However I do not think an acceptable agreement will come any more quickly if we rehearse the many and complicated arguments on this list. How did we get get here then? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
