Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia logo on University Challenge?

2010-08-05 Thread Brian McNeil
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 14:07 +0100, Thomas Dalton wrote:
 On 5 August 2010 10:18, Stephen Tilley step...@tilley.net wrote:
  Do we know if the BBC asked for permission to use another organisation's
  logo in this way?
 
 I don't see why they would need to. There is certainly no trademark
 violation, since the way it was used couldn't confuse anyone into
 thinking the BBC was associated with Wikipedia, and think the fair use
 exemption to copyright would apply (they are essentially providing
 commentary on the logo).

This is not the United States of America. It is *fair dealing*, not fair
use.

But, yes. Essentially Thomas is correct.




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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia logo on University Challenge?

2010-08-04 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 4 August 2010 14:09, Hampton Catlin hcat...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 I can do everyone one-better!

 http://hamptoncatlin.com/unichallenge.ogg

 I recorded it!

And disregarded copyright in posting it online?

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia logo on University Challenge?

2010-08-04 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 4 August 2010 19:19, Hampton Catlin hcat...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 ...seriously?

Yes, seriously. There is a perception that the free software/free
content movement is all about wilfully ignoring copyright and we
should be very careful not to provide support for that perception.

 A fair-use of BBC material in my mind!

I don't see how it is fair use. Just because it's a short clip doesn't
automatically make it fair use. You didn't critique or review the
work, you just copied it so that other people could see it.

 And I'm not publishing it anywhere else except internally to wmf people.

This is a public mailing list. You don't need to be subscribed to read it.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia logo on University Challenge?

2010-08-04 Thread Cormac Lawler
On 4 August 2010 20:44, Hampton Catlin hcat...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 I apologize to everyone in the group for so blatantly violating the
 copyright of the BBC.

 The clip has been removed. I shall notify staff-l of the removal.

 Next time, I should begin negotiations with the content owners before
 doing anything entertaining.


:-)

Hampton,

Thomas is right in what he says - but don't fret about it. There's a whole
youtube of copyvios out there. ;-)

Cormac
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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedia logo on University Challenge?

2010-08-03 Thread Michael Peel
Hi all,

Does anyone watch University Challenge? I've heard a rumour that a round of 
questions was focused on the Wikipedia puzzle globe symbols around the 26th 
July 2010 - can anyone confirm or deny this?

Thanks,
Mike


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