Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Nicolas VIGNERON]

Hi,

Quick update: I just learned that the physical Wikimedia Summit is *cancelled
*« due to the global health situation (COVID-19) ». The organisation
is « currently
look into hosting the Summit in a series of virtual meetings »

Cheers, ~nicolas

Le sam. 14 déc. 2019 à 15:04, Nicolas VIGNERON 
a écrit :

> Hi all,
>
> The meeting is over. Thank you all !
>
> You can find some notes on https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WCUG
> In a nutshell: I'm applying to go to the Wikimedia Summit to represent the
> Wikisource User Group. We will do an other meeting before the conference to
> have a consensual position of the community.
>
> Cheers, ~nicolas
>
> Le sam. 14 déc. 2019 à 13:31, Nicolas VIGNERON 
> a écrit :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Reminder: the meeting will start in 30 minutes.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ~nicolas
>>
>> Le sam. 14 déc. 2019 à 11:36, Federico Leva (Nemo) 
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> Nicolas VIGNERON, 13/12/19 12:21:
>>> > If there is no objection, then the meeting is tomorrow Saturday at
>>> 13:00 (1
>>> > pm) UTC
>>>
>>> Thank you. I have the assembly of another association at the same time
>>> so I can't attend, but I'll read the notes.
>>>
>>> This year I may be able to attend the meeting, if you find a use in me
>>> doing so. I think the last time I went was almost ten years ago (I was
>>> already advocating for Wikisource and sister projects back then;
>>> according to my notes, the only other person mentioning them from the
>>> stage was Ting!). I can easily wear a Wikisource-only hat while storing
>>> away my hats as WMIT/WMFI/WMDE member.
>>>
>>> I have participated a bit in the strategy meetings in Stockholm but not
>>> so much in the overall process otherwise. (I was more active in the 2009
>>> strategy and I still stand by my proposals.*) This means I would need to
>>> study the documents more before going, but on the other hand it also
>>> means I'm currently a neutral vessel for whatever message the group
>>> might want me to deliver.
>>>
>>> That said, it's of course better if someone more directly involved in
>>> the daily activities of the group can go instead.
>>>
>>> Federico
>>>
>>> (*) 
>>>
>>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Nicolas VIGNERON]

Hi all,

The meeting is over. Thank you all !

You can find some notes on https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WCUG
In a nutshell: I'm applying to go to the Wikimedia Summit to represent the
Wikisource User Group. We will do an other meeting before the conference to
have a consensual position of the community.

Cheers, ~nicolas

Le sam. 14 déc. 2019 à 13:31, Nicolas VIGNERON 
a écrit :

> Hi all,
>
> Reminder: the meeting will start in 30 minutes.
>
> Cheers,
> ~nicolas
>
> Le sam. 14 déc. 2019 à 11:36, Federico Leva (Nemo)  a
> écrit :
>
>> Nicolas VIGNERON, 13/12/19 12:21:
>> > If there is no objection, then the meeting is tomorrow Saturday at
>> 13:00 (1
>> > pm) UTC
>>
>> Thank you. I have the assembly of another association at the same time
>> so I can't attend, but I'll read the notes.
>>
>> This year I may be able to attend the meeting, if you find a use in me
>> doing so. I think the last time I went was almost ten years ago (I was
>> already advocating for Wikisource and sister projects back then;
>> according to my notes, the only other person mentioning them from the
>> stage was Ting!). I can easily wear a Wikisource-only hat while storing
>> away my hats as WMIT/WMFI/WMDE member.
>>
>> I have participated a bit in the strategy meetings in Stockholm but not
>> so much in the overall process otherwise. (I was more active in the 2009
>> strategy and I still stand by my proposals.*) This means I would need to
>> study the documents more before going, but on the other hand it also
>> means I'm currently a neutral vessel for whatever message the group
>> might want me to deliver.
>>
>> That said, it's of course better if someone more directly involved in
>> the daily activities of the group can go instead.
>>
>> Federico
>>
>> (*) 
>>
>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Nicolas VIGNERON]

Hi all,

Reminder: the meeting will start in 30 minutes.

Cheers,
~nicolas

Le sam. 14 déc. 2019 à 11:36, Federico Leva (Nemo)  a
écrit :

> Nicolas VIGNERON, 13/12/19 12:21:
> > If there is no objection, then the meeting is tomorrow Saturday at 13:00
> (1
> > pm) UTC
>
> Thank you. I have the assembly of another association at the same time
> so I can't attend, but I'll read the notes.
>
> This year I may be able to attend the meeting, if you find a use in me
> doing so. I think the last time I went was almost ten years ago (I was
> already advocating for Wikisource and sister projects back then;
> according to my notes, the only other person mentioning them from the
> stage was Ting!). I can easily wear a Wikisource-only hat while storing
> away my hats as WMIT/WMFI/WMDE member.
>
> I have participated a bit in the strategy meetings in Stockholm but not
> so much in the overall process otherwise. (I was more active in the 2009
> strategy and I still stand by my proposals.*) This means I would need to
> study the documents more before going, but on the other hand it also
> means I'm currently a neutral vessel for whatever message the group
> might want me to deliver.
>
> That said, it's of course better if someone more directly involved in
> the daily activities of the group can go instead.
>
> Federico
>
> (*) 
>
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

Nicolas VIGNERON, 13/12/19 12:21:

If there is no objection, then the meeting is tomorrow Saturday at 13:00 (1
pm) UTC


Thank you. I have the assembly of another association at the same time 
so I can't attend, but I'll read the notes.


This year I may be able to attend the meeting, if you find a use in me 
doing so. I think the last time I went was almost ten years ago (I was 
already advocating for Wikisource and sister projects back then; 
according to my notes, the only other person mentioning them from the 
stage was Ting!). I can easily wear a Wikisource-only hat while storing 
away my hats as WMIT/WMFI/WMDE member.


I have participated a bit in the strategy meetings in Stockholm but not 
so much in the overall process otherwise. (I was more active in the 2009 
strategy and I still stand by my proposals.*) This means I would need to 
study the documents more before going, but on the other hand it also 
means I'm currently a neutral vessel for whatever message the group 
might want me to deliver.


That said, it's of course better if someone more directly involved in 
the daily activities of the group can go instead.


Federico

(*) 

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi,

I think, I will also not be able to make it at that time.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019, 04:11 Ruthven,  wrote:

> Hi all,
>  Unfortunately I'm not available tomorrow at 1pm. Good luck, I'll check on
> the etherpad.
>
> Cheers,
> *Ruthven* on Wikipedia
>
>
> On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 at 12:06, Mardetanha 
> wrote:
>
>> Good, i will do my best to join you.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 1:51 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> So according to the framadate (https://framadate.org/DWcnhfcsWQRjFKhP)
>>> we have equality for Saturday and Sunday but Mohsen didn't vote and said he
>>> preferred Saturday (IIRC).
>>> If there is no objection, then the meeting is tomorrow Saturday at 13:00
>>> (1 pm) UTC (time conversion:
>>> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20191214T13=195=176=263
>>> ).
>>>
>>> The meeting will be at this URL: https://meet.jit.si/WCUG (just click
>>> the link, no account needed ; you may get a "Browser warning" but most of
>>> the time it's relevant, the Jitsi devs are tweaking things right now
>>> apparently).
>>> We will take notes on this pad: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WCUG
>>> (I already included the four questions about Movement Strategy, is that
>>> the "essay" you are talking about Jim? ping @Bodhisattwa and @Mohsen as you
>>> two are in Strategy working groups your input would be valuable, feel free
>>> to comment in the pad before the meeting ;) ).
>>>
>>> See you tomorrow!
>>>
>>> Cheers, ~nicolas
>>>
>>>
>>> Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 20:23, J Hayes  a écrit :
>>>
 Yes, I concur.
 I am concerned that the conference will be used to rubber stamp
 strategic plan.
 There is some unrest among other affiliates, that they are not feeling
 the resource support from WMF. And that WMF does not collaborate well with
 others.
 (Which goes unmentioned in strategic plan)
 also you may need to don your "corporate speak" hat in the essay
 responses to get invited.

 Cdmt, slowking

 On Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 1:08 PM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
 bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Nicolas,
>
> In this summit, we need an experienced Wikisourcer who can strongly
> advocate for the project, so that the project and it's communities does 
> not
> get left behind or forgotten during the implementation phase of strategy.
> This year, we need to send someone who can opine in the implementation
> discussion in such a way, that it is at least ensured on paper, that
> Wikisource will get the support it deserves. It is also needed to
> strategize for Wikisource for future w.r.t. knowledge equity.
>
> Personally I think, you are one of the best persons, we have, to
> represent the entire community and if you decide to go, you have my very
> strong support.
>
> Regards,
> Bodhisattwa
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 10 Dec 2019, 19:37 balaji,  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Thanks Vigneron for starting this up for timely discussion. We need
>> to discuss how and what to present about our group in the conference. We
>> need to take into account about experience, opportunity for people, full
>> availability for the conference.(Not like the same person representing
>> wikisource also doing other activities in conference), etc while 
>> selecting
>> the people.
>>
>> p.s. This year I wont be able to travel during that time. So i am not
>> a candidate.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Balaji.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 6:12 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> According to the reports :
>>> - 2014 : Micru and Aubrey
>>> - 2015 : Micru and Aubrey
>>> - 2016 and 2017 : Aubrey
>>> - 2018 : Balajijagadesh and VIGNERON
>>> - 2019 : Gurlal Maan
>>>
>>> @Mardetanha and the others: is Friday or Saturday better for you?
>>> I started a poll to find the best day:
>>> https://framadate.org/DWcnhfcsWQRjFKhP (feel free to comment).
>>>
>>> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>>>
>>> Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 13:24, Mardetanha 
>>> a écrit :
>>>
 and do we have the list of previous year participants?
 I am not sure if I can join Sunday, as it is working day in Iran
 but I will do my best
 Mardetanha


 On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:27 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
 vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> To make it clear, I'm candidate to go to the Summit.
> I'm not sure if I'm the best person to represent this user group
> (UG) as the Summit is a « focused event for conversations on Movement
> Strategy » and I'm not always good at Strategy (especially for such a 
> broad
> group like this UG, indeed we need priorities, hence this meeting ;) 

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Ruthven]

Hi all,
 Unfortunately I'm not available tomorrow at 1pm. Good luck, I'll check on
the etherpad.

Cheers,
*Ruthven* on Wikipedia


On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 at 12:06, Mardetanha  wrote:

> Good, i will do my best to join you.
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 1:51 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> So according to the framadate (https://framadate.org/DWcnhfcsWQRjFKhP)
>> we have equality for Saturday and Sunday but Mohsen didn't vote and said he
>> preferred Saturday (IIRC).
>> If there is no objection, then the meeting is tomorrow Saturday at 13:00
>> (1 pm) UTC (time conversion:
>> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20191214T13=195=176=263
>> ).
>>
>> The meeting will be at this URL: https://meet.jit.si/WCUG (just click
>> the link, no account needed ; you may get a "Browser warning" but most of
>> the time it's relevant, the Jitsi devs are tweaking things right now
>> apparently).
>> We will take notes on this pad: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WCUG
>> (I already included the four questions about Movement Strategy, is that
>> the "essay" you are talking about Jim? ping @Bodhisattwa and @Mohsen as you
>> two are in Strategy working groups your input would be valuable, feel free
>> to comment in the pad before the meeting ;) ).
>>
>> See you tomorrow!
>>
>> Cheers, ~nicolas
>>
>>
>> Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 20:23, J Hayes  a écrit :
>>
>>> Yes, I concur.
>>> I am concerned that the conference will be used to rubber stamp
>>> strategic plan.
>>> There is some unrest among other affiliates, that they are not feeling
>>> the resource support from WMF. And that WMF does not collaborate well with
>>> others.
>>> (Which goes unmentioned in strategic plan)
>>> also you may need to don your "corporate speak" hat in the essay
>>> responses to get invited.
>>>
>>> Cdmt, slowking
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 1:08 PM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Nicolas,

 In this summit, we need an experienced Wikisourcer who can strongly
 advocate for the project, so that the project and it's communities does not
 get left behind or forgotten during the implementation phase of strategy.
 This year, we need to send someone who can opine in the implementation
 discussion in such a way, that it is at least ensured on paper, that
 Wikisource will get the support it deserves. It is also needed to
 strategize for Wikisource for future w.r.t. knowledge equity.

 Personally I think, you are one of the best persons, we have, to
 represent the entire community and if you decide to go, you have my very
 strong support.

 Regards,
 Bodhisattwa






 On Tue, 10 Dec 2019, 19:37 balaji,  wrote:

> Hi,
> Thanks Vigneron for starting this up for timely discussion. We need to
> discuss how and what to present about our group in the conference. We need
> to take into account about experience, opportunity for people, full
> availability for the conference.(Not like the same person representing
> wikisource also doing other activities in conference), etc while selecting
> the people.
>
> p.s. This year I wont be able to travel during that time. So i am not
> a candidate.
>
> Regards,
> Balaji.
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 6:12 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> According to the reports :
>> - 2014 : Micru and Aubrey
>> - 2015 : Micru and Aubrey
>> - 2016 and 2017 : Aubrey
>> - 2018 : Balajijagadesh and VIGNERON
>> - 2019 : Gurlal Maan
>>
>> @Mardetanha and the others: is Friday or Saturday better for you?
>> I started a poll to find the best day:
>> https://framadate.org/DWcnhfcsWQRjFKhP (feel free to comment).
>>
>> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>>
>> Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 13:24, Mardetanha 
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> and do we have the list of previous year participants?
>>> I am not sure if I can join Sunday, as it is working day in Iran but
>>> I will do my best
>>> Mardetanha
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:27 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
>>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 To make it clear, I'm candidate to go to the Summit.
 I'm not sure if I'm the best person to represent this user group
 (UG) as the Summit is a « focused event for conversations on Movement
 Strategy » and I'm not always good at Strategy (especially for such a 
 broad
 group like this UG, indeed we need priorities, hence this meeting ;) ).
 That said, I have a long experience of Wikisource, I was the 
 representative
 for this UG in 2018 so I'm not the worst person either ;)

 For the meeting, I'm also available this week. I guess to gather
 the most people sunday at 1 pm 

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Mardetanha]

Good, i will do my best to join you.

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 1:51 PM Nicolas VIGNERON 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> So according to the framadate (https://framadate.org/DWcnhfcsWQRjFKhP) we
> have equality for Saturday and Sunday but Mohsen didn't vote and said he
> preferred Saturday (IIRC).
> If there is no objection, then the meeting is tomorrow Saturday at 13:00
> (1 pm) UTC (time conversion:
> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20191214T13=195=176=263
> ).
>
> The meeting will be at this URL: https://meet.jit.si/WCUG (just click the
> link, no account needed ; you may get a "Browser warning" but most of the
> time it's relevant, the Jitsi devs are tweaking things right now
> apparently).
> We will take notes on this pad: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WCUG
> (I already included the four questions about Movement Strategy, is that
> the "essay" you are talking about Jim? ping @Bodhisattwa and @Mohsen as you
> two are in Strategy working groups your input would be valuable, feel free
> to comment in the pad before the meeting ;) ).
>
> See you tomorrow!
>
> Cheers, ~nicolas
>
>
> Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 20:23, J Hayes  a écrit :
>
>> Yes, I concur.
>> I am concerned that the conference will be used to rubber stamp strategic
>> plan.
>> There is some unrest among other affiliates, that they are not feeling
>> the resource support from WMF. And that WMF does not collaborate well with
>> others.
>> (Which goes unmentioned in strategic plan)
>> also you may need to don your "corporate speak" hat in the essay
>> responses to get invited.
>>
>> Cdmt, slowking
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 1:08 PM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Nicolas,
>>>
>>> In this summit, we need an experienced Wikisourcer who can strongly
>>> advocate for the project, so that the project and it's communities does not
>>> get left behind or forgotten during the implementation phase of strategy.
>>> This year, we need to send someone who can opine in the implementation
>>> discussion in such a way, that it is at least ensured on paper, that
>>> Wikisource will get the support it deserves. It is also needed to
>>> strategize for Wikisource for future w.r.t. knowledge equity.
>>>
>>> Personally I think, you are one of the best persons, we have, to
>>> represent the entire community and if you decide to go, you have my very
>>> strong support.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bodhisattwa
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 10 Dec 2019, 19:37 balaji,  wrote:
>>>
 Hi,
 Thanks Vigneron for starting this up for timely discussion. We need to
 discuss how and what to present about our group in the conference. We need
 to take into account about experience, opportunity for people, full
 availability for the conference.(Not like the same person representing
 wikisource also doing other activities in conference), etc while selecting
 the people.

 p.s. This year I wont be able to travel during that time. So i am not a
 candidate.

 Regards,
 Balaji.

 On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 6:12 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
 vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> According to the reports :
> - 2014 : Micru and Aubrey
> - 2015 : Micru and Aubrey
> - 2016 and 2017 : Aubrey
> - 2018 : Balajijagadesh and VIGNERON
> - 2019 : Gurlal Maan
>
> @Mardetanha and the others: is Friday or Saturday better for you?
> I started a poll to find the best day:
> https://framadate.org/DWcnhfcsWQRjFKhP (feel free to comment).
>
> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>
> Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 13:24, Mardetanha 
> a écrit :
>
>> and do we have the list of previous year participants?
>> I am not sure if I can join Sunday, as it is working day in Iran but
>> I will do my best
>> Mardetanha
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:27 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> To make it clear, I'm candidate to go to the Summit.
>>> I'm not sure if I'm the best person to represent this user group
>>> (UG) as the Summit is a « focused event for conversations on Movement
>>> Strategy » and I'm not always good at Strategy (especially for such a 
>>> broad
>>> group like this UG, indeed we need priorities, hence this meeting ;) ).
>>> That said, I have a long experience of Wikisource, I was the 
>>> representative
>>> for this UG in 2018 so I'm not the worst person either ;)
>>>
>>> For the meeting, I'm also available this week. I guess to gather the
>>> most people sunday at 1 pm UTC (13:00) is probably the best for 
>>> everyone (
>>> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20191213T13=195=176=263
>>> ).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> ~nicolas
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>>> 

Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Nicolas VIGNERON]

Hi all,

So according to the framadate (https://framadate.org/DWcnhfcsWQRjFKhP) we
have equality for Saturday and Sunday but Mohsen didn't vote and said he
preferred Saturday (IIRC).
If there is no objection, then the meeting is tomorrow Saturday at 13:00 (1
pm) UTC (time conversion:
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20191214T13=195=176=263
).

The meeting will be at this URL: https://meet.jit.si/WCUG (just click the
link, no account needed ; you may get a "Browser warning" but most of the
time it's relevant, the Jitsi devs are tweaking things right now
apparently).
We will take notes on this pad: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WCUG
(I already included the four questions about Movement Strategy, is that the
"essay" you are talking about Jim? ping @Bodhisattwa and @Mohsen as you two
are in Strategy working groups your input would be valuable, feel free to
comment in the pad before the meeting ;) ).

See you tomorrow!

Cheers, ~nicolas


Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 20:23, J Hayes  a écrit :

> Yes, I concur.
> I am concerned that the conference will be used to rubber stamp strategic
> plan.
> There is some unrest among other affiliates, that they are not feeling the
> resource support from WMF. And that WMF does not collaborate well with
> others.
> (Which goes unmentioned in strategic plan)
> also you may need to don your "corporate speak" hat in the essay responses
> to get invited.
>
> Cdmt, slowking
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 1:08 PM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Nicolas,
>>
>> In this summit, we need an experienced Wikisourcer who can strongly
>> advocate for the project, so that the project and it's communities does not
>> get left behind or forgotten during the implementation phase of strategy.
>> This year, we need to send someone who can opine in the implementation
>> discussion in such a way, that it is at least ensured on paper, that
>> Wikisource will get the support it deserves. It is also needed to
>> strategize for Wikisource for future w.r.t. knowledge equity.
>>
>> Personally I think, you are one of the best persons, we have, to
>> represent the entire community and if you decide to go, you have my very
>> strong support.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bodhisattwa
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Dec 2019, 19:37 balaji,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Thanks Vigneron for starting this up for timely discussion. We need to
>>> discuss how and what to present about our group in the conference. We need
>>> to take into account about experience, opportunity for people, full
>>> availability for the conference.(Not like the same person representing
>>> wikisource also doing other activities in conference), etc while selecting
>>> the people.
>>>
>>> p.s. This year I wont be able to travel during that time. So i am not a
>>> candidate.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Balaji.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 6:12 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
>>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 According to the reports :
 - 2014 : Micru and Aubrey
 - 2015 : Micru and Aubrey
 - 2016 and 2017 : Aubrey
 - 2018 : Balajijagadesh and VIGNERON
 - 2019 : Gurlal Maan

 @Mardetanha and the others: is Friday or Saturday better for you?
 I started a poll to find the best day:
 https://framadate.org/DWcnhfcsWQRjFKhP (feel free to comment).

 Cdlt, ~nicolas

 Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 13:24, Mardetanha  a
 écrit :

> and do we have the list of previous year participants?
> I am not sure if I can join Sunday, as it is working day in Iran but I
> will do my best
> Mardetanha
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:27 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> To make it clear, I'm candidate to go to the Summit.
>> I'm not sure if I'm the best person to represent this user group (UG)
>> as the Summit is a « focused event for conversations on Movement 
>> Strategy »
>> and I'm not always good at Strategy (especially for such a broad group 
>> like
>> this UG, indeed we need priorities, hence this meeting ;) ). That said, I
>> have a long experience of Wikisource, I was the representative for this 
>> UG
>> in 2018 so I'm not the worst person either ;)
>>
>> For the meeting, I'm also available this week. I guess to gather the
>> most people sunday at 1 pm UTC (13:00) is probably the best for everyone 
>> (
>> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20191213T13=195=176=263
>> ).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ~nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[J Hayes]

Yes, I concur.
I am concerned that the conference will be used to rubber stamp strategic
plan.
There is some unrest among other affiliates, that they are not feeling the
resource support from WMF. And that WMF does not collaborate well with
others.
(Which goes unmentioned in strategic plan)
also you may need to don your "corporate speak" hat in the essay responses
to get invited.

Cdmt, slowking

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 1:08 PM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Nicolas,
>
> In this summit, we need an experienced Wikisourcer who can strongly
> advocate for the project, so that the project and it's communities does not
> get left behind or forgotten during the implementation phase of strategy.
> This year, we need to send someone who can opine in the implementation
> discussion in such a way, that it is at least ensured on paper, that
> Wikisource will get the support it deserves. It is also needed to
> strategize for Wikisource for future w.r.t. knowledge equity.
>
> Personally I think, you are one of the best persons, we have, to represent
> the entire community and if you decide to go, you have my very strong
> support.
>
> Regards,
> Bodhisattwa
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 10 Dec 2019, 19:37 balaji,  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Thanks Vigneron for starting this up for timely discussion. We need to
>> discuss how and what to present about our group in the conference. We need
>> to take into account about experience, opportunity for people, full
>> availability for the conference.(Not like the same person representing
>> wikisource also doing other activities in conference), etc while selecting
>> the people.
>>
>> p.s. This year I wont be able to travel during that time. So i am not a
>> candidate.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Balaji.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 6:12 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> According to the reports :
>>> - 2014 : Micru and Aubrey
>>> - 2015 : Micru and Aubrey
>>> - 2016 and 2017 : Aubrey
>>> - 2018 : Balajijagadesh and VIGNERON
>>> - 2019 : Gurlal Maan
>>>
>>> @Mardetanha and the others: is Friday or Saturday better for you?
>>> I started a poll to find the best day:
>>> https://framadate.org/DWcnhfcsWQRjFKhP (feel free to comment).
>>>
>>> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>>>
>>> Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 13:24, Mardetanha  a
>>> écrit :
>>>
 and do we have the list of previous year participants?
 I am not sure if I can join Sunday, as it is working day in Iran but I
 will do my best
 Mardetanha


 On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:27 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
 vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> To make it clear, I'm candidate to go to the Summit.
> I'm not sure if I'm the best person to represent this user group (UG)
> as the Summit is a « focused event for conversations on Movement Strategy 
> »
> and I'm not always good at Strategy (especially for such a broad group 
> like
> this UG, indeed we need priorities, hence this meeting ;) ). That said, I
> have a long experience of Wikisource, I was the representative for this UG
> in 2018 so I'm not the worst person either ;)
>
> For the meeting, I'm also available this week. I guess to gather the
> most people sunday at 1 pm UTC (13:00) is probably the best for everyone (
> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20191213T13=195=176=263
> ).
>
> Cheers,
> ~nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Bodhisattwa Mandal]

Hi Nicolas,

In this summit, we need an experienced Wikisourcer who can strongly
advocate for the project, so that the project and it's communities does not
get left behind or forgotten during the implementation phase of strategy.
This year, we need to send someone who can opine in the implementation
discussion in such a way, that it is at least ensured on paper, that
Wikisource will get the support it deserves. It is also needed to
strategize for Wikisource for future w.r.t. knowledge equity.

Personally I think, you are one of the best persons, we have, to represent
the entire community and if you decide to go, you have my very strong
support.

Regards,
Bodhisattwa






On Tue, 10 Dec 2019, 19:37 balaji,  wrote:

> Hi,
> Thanks Vigneron for starting this up for timely discussion. We need to
> discuss how and what to present about our group in the conference. We need
> to take into account about experience, opportunity for people, full
> availability for the conference.(Not like the same person representing
> wikisource also doing other activities in conference), etc while selecting
> the people.
>
> p.s. This year I wont be able to travel during that time. So i am not a
> candidate.
>
> Regards,
> Balaji.
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 6:12 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> According to the reports :
>> - 2014 : Micru and Aubrey
>> - 2015 : Micru and Aubrey
>> - 2016 and 2017 : Aubrey
>> - 2018 : Balajijagadesh and VIGNERON
>> - 2019 : Gurlal Maan
>>
>> @Mardetanha and the others: is Friday or Saturday better for you?
>> I started a poll to find the best day:
>> https://framadate.org/DWcnhfcsWQRjFKhP (feel free to comment).
>>
>> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>>
>> Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 13:24, Mardetanha  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> and do we have the list of previous year participants?
>>> I am not sure if I can join Sunday, as it is working day in Iran but I
>>> will do my best
>>> Mardetanha
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:27 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
>>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 To make it clear, I'm candidate to go to the Summit.
 I'm not sure if I'm the best person to represent this user group (UG)
 as the Summit is a « focused event for conversations on Movement Strategy »
 and I'm not always good at Strategy (especially for such a broad group like
 this UG, indeed we need priorities, hence this meeting ;) ). That said, I
 have a long experience of Wikisource, I was the representative for this UG
 in 2018 so I'm not the worst person either ;)

 For the meeting, I'm also available this week. I guess to gather the
 most people sunday at 1 pm UTC (13:00) is probably the best for everyone (
 https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20191213T13=195=176=263
 ).

 Cheers,
 ~nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[balaji]

Hi,
Thanks Vigneron for starting this up for timely discussion. We need to
discuss how and what to present about our group in the conference. We need
to take into account about experience, opportunity for people, full
availability for the conference.(Not like the same person representing
wikisource also doing other activities in conference), etc while selecting
the people.

p.s. This year I wont be able to travel during that time. So i am not a
candidate.

Regards,
Balaji.

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 6:12 PM Nicolas VIGNERON 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> According to the reports :
> - 2014 : Micru and Aubrey
> - 2015 : Micru and Aubrey
> - 2016 and 2017 : Aubrey
> - 2018 : Balajijagadesh and VIGNERON
> - 2019 : Gurlal Maan
>
> @Mardetanha and the others: is Friday or Saturday better for you?
> I started a poll to find the best day:
> https://framadate.org/DWcnhfcsWQRjFKhP (feel free to comment).
>
> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>
> Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 13:24, Mardetanha  a
> écrit :
>
>> and do we have the list of previous year participants?
>> I am not sure if I can join Sunday, as it is working day in Iran but I
>> will do my best
>> Mardetanha
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:27 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> To make it clear, I'm candidate to go to the Summit.
>>> I'm not sure if I'm the best person to represent this user group (UG) as
>>> the Summit is a « focused event for conversations on Movement Strategy »
>>> and I'm not always good at Strategy (especially for such a broad group like
>>> this UG, indeed we need priorities, hence this meeting ;) ). That said, I
>>> have a long experience of Wikisource, I was the representative for this UG
>>> in 2018 so I'm not the worst person either ;)
>>>
>>> For the meeting, I'm also available this week. I guess to gather the
>>> most people sunday at 1 pm UTC (13:00) is probably the best for everyone (
>>> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20191213T13=195=176=263
>>> ).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> ~nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Mardetanha]

Friday is the best time for me but I will try to be as flexible as
possible. and thanks for the list.

Mohsen
Mardetanha


On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 4:11 PM Nicolas VIGNERON 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> According to the reports :
> - 2014 : Micru and Aubrey
> - 2015 : Micru and Aubrey
> - 2016 and 2017 : Aubrey
> - 2018 : Balajijagadesh and VIGNERON
> - 2019 : Gurlal Maan
>
> @Mardetanha and the others: is Friday or Saturday better for you?
> I started a poll to find the best day:
> https://framadate.org/DWcnhfcsWQRjFKhP (feel free to comment).
>
> Cdlt, ~nicolas
>
> Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 13:24, Mardetanha  a
> écrit :
>
>> and do we have the list of previous year participants?
>> I am not sure if I can join Sunday, as it is working day in Iran but I
>> will do my best
>> Mardetanha
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:27 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
>> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> To make it clear, I'm candidate to go to the Summit.
>>> I'm not sure if I'm the best person to represent this user group (UG) as
>>> the Summit is a « focused event for conversations on Movement Strategy »
>>> and I'm not always good at Strategy (especially for such a broad group like
>>> this UG, indeed we need priorities, hence this meeting ;) ). That said, I
>>> have a long experience of Wikisource, I was the representative for this UG
>>> in 2018 so I'm not the worst person either ;)
>>>
>>> For the meeting, I'm also available this week. I guess to gather the
>>> most people sunday at 1 pm UTC (13:00) is probably the best for everyone (
>>> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20191213T13=195=176=263
>>> ).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> ~nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Nicolas VIGNERON]

Hi,

According to the reports :
- 2014 : Micru and Aubrey
- 2015 : Micru and Aubrey
- 2016 and 2017 : Aubrey
- 2018 : Balajijagadesh and VIGNERON
- 2019 : Gurlal Maan

@Mardetanha and the others: is Friday or Saturday better for you?
I started a poll to find the best day:
https://framadate.org/DWcnhfcsWQRjFKhP (feel free to comment).

Cdlt, ~nicolas

Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 13:24, Mardetanha  a
écrit :

> and do we have the list of previous year participants?
> I am not sure if I can join Sunday, as it is working day in Iran but I
> will do my best
> Mardetanha
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:27 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <
> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> To make it clear, I'm candidate to go to the Summit.
>> I'm not sure if I'm the best person to represent this user group (UG) as
>> the Summit is a « focused event for conversations on Movement Strategy »
>> and I'm not always good at Strategy (especially for such a broad group like
>> this UG, indeed we need priorities, hence this meeting ;) ). That said, I
>> have a long experience of Wikisource, I was the representative for this UG
>> in 2018 so I'm not the worst person either ;)
>>
>> For the meeting, I'm also available this week. I guess to gather the most
>> people sunday at 1 pm UTC (13:00) is probably the best for everyone (
>> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20191213T13=195=176=263
>> ).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ~nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Mardetanha]

and do we have the list of previous year participants?
I am not sure if I can join Sunday, as it is working day in Iran but I will
do my best
Mardetanha


On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 2:27 PM Nicolas VIGNERON 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> To make it clear, I'm candidate to go to the Summit.
> I'm not sure if I'm the best person to represent this user group (UG) as
> the Summit is a « focused event for conversations on Movement Strategy »
> and I'm not always good at Strategy (especially for such a broad group like
> this UG, indeed we need priorities, hence this meeting ;) ). That said, I
> have a long experience of Wikisource, I was the representative for this UG
> in 2018 so I'm not the worst person either ;)
>
> For the meeting, I'm also available this week. I guess to gather the most
> people sunday at 1 pm UTC (13:00) is probably the best for everyone (
> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20191213T13=195=176=263
> ).
>
> Cheers,
> ~nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Nicolas VIGNERON]

Hi,

To make it clear, I'm candidate to go to the Summit.
I'm not sure if I'm the best person to represent this user group (UG) as
the Summit is a « focused event for conversations on Movement Strategy »
and I'm not always good at Strategy (especially for such a broad group like
this UG, indeed we need priorities, hence this meeting ;) ). That said, I
have a long experience of Wikisource, I was the representative for this UG
in 2018 so I'm not the worst person either ;)

For the meeting, I'm also available this week. I guess to gather the most
people sunday at 1 pm UTC (13:00) is probably the best for everyone (
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20191213T13=195=176=263
).

Cheers,
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Ruthven]

Hi all,
 I am available this week (evening hours CET) and on Sunday.
Even if I personally have some recommendations feedback on the creation
process of new Wikisource projects, it would be cool if we can agree on
some priorities to push on for the Wikimedia Strategy.

Cheers,
 Alex
*Ruthven* on Wikipedia


On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 at 11:32, Thomas Pellissier Tanon <
tho...@pellissier-tanon.fr> wrote:

> Thank you Nicolas for taking care of this.
>
> It would be great to have someone at the Wikimedia Summit advocating
> for Wikisource.
>
> I'm interested to attend the meeting this week if it could help to
> choose representative. I'm available most of the week in CET timezone.
>
> I am already attending a lot of Wikimedia events and I'm not the best
> speaker, so I'm not candidate to attend the Wikimedia Summit either.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thomas
>
>
> Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 10:46, Mardetanha  a
> écrit :
> >
> > This is a very good idea, do we know how many people are interested? if
> you are interested please put your name here that we can discuss, (I am
> personally not a candidate this year)
> >
> > Mardetanha
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 11:53 AM Nicolas VIGNERON <
> vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> This year again, we need to select the representative of the Wikisource
> Community User Group to the Wikimedia Summit 2020. This year summit is even
> more focused on strategy and the deadline is December 16.
> >>
> >> There was some issues with last year process (as pointed by Gurlal
> report) and time is short, so I think the best would be an online meeting
> sometimes this week (when ?).
> >> Who is interested and available ? (both for the meeting but also to go
> to Berlin).
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Nicolas
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[Thomas Pellissier Tanon]

Thank you Nicolas for taking care of this.

It would be great to have someone at the Wikimedia Summit advocating
for Wikisource.

I'm interested to attend the meeting this week if it could help to
choose representative. I'm available most of the week in CET timezone.

I am already attending a lot of Wikimedia events and I'm not the best
speaker, so I'm not candidate to attend the Wikimedia Summit either.

Cheers,

Thomas


Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 10:46, Mardetanha  a écrit :
>
> This is a very good idea, do we know how many people are interested? if you 
> are interested please put your name here that we can discuss, (I am 
> personally not a candidate this year)
>
> Mardetanha
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 11:53 AM Nicolas VIGNERON 
>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This year again, we need to select the representative of the Wikisource 
>> Community User Group to the Wikimedia Summit 2020. This year summit is even 
>> more focused on strategy and the deadline is December 16.
>>
>> There was some issues with last year process (as pointed by Gurlal report) 
>> and time is short, so I think the best would be an online meeting sometimes 
>> this week (when ?).
>> Who is interested and available ? (both for the meeting but also to go to 
>> Berlin).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Nicolas
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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource at the Wikimedia Summit 2020

[Mardetanha]

This is a very good idea, do we know how many people are interested? if you
are interested please put your name here that we can discuss, (I am
personally not a candidate this year)

Mardetanha


On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 11:53 AM Nicolas VIGNERON <
vigneron.nico...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> This year again, we need to select the representative of the Wikisource
> Community User Group to the Wikimedia Summit 2020. This year summit is even
> more focused on strategy and the deadline is December 16.
>
> There was some issues with last year process (as pointed by Gurlal report)
> and time is short, so I think the best would be an online meeting sometimes
> this week (when ?).
> Who is interested and available ? (both for the meeting but also to go to
> Berlin).
>
> Cheers,
> Nicolas
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