[Wikitech-l] how to force type of zh conversion?
Hi List I have a local copy of mediawiki (v1.15) and I'm trying to force output of content in zh-tw format for testing. I figured this could be done by setting: $wgLanguageCode = 'zh-tw'; inside of LocalSettings.php. But this doesn't seem to work. Could somebody shed some light on how to do this? Thanks! -Sean ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] how to force type of zh conversion?
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Sean Moss-Pultz s...@openmoko.com wrote: Hi List I have a local copy of mediawiki (v1.15) and I'm trying to force output of content in zh-tw format for testing. I figured this could be done by setting: $wgLanguageCode = 'zh-tw'; inside of LocalSettings.php. But this doesn't seem to work. Could somebody shed some light on how to do this? I figured this out. This works as I wanted: $wgLanguageCode = 'zh'; $wgDefaultLanguageVariant = 'zh-tw'; Hope that helps somebody... sometime. Sean ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: reversion collapsing in edit history
2010/9/13 Tgr gti...@gmail.com: It would be nice if the system would be generic enough to be used for hiding minor bot edits (not necessarily reversions) The only common factor between collapsing reversions and hiding minor and/or bot edits is the fact that you're hiding things from the history view. As far as detection goes, the two are completely separate problems: one requires a checksum to be added to the revision table, the other requires the minor/bot flags to be added to that table. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: reversion collapsing in edit history
Roan Kattouw wrote: 2010/9/13 Tgr gti...@gmail.com: It would be nice if the system would be generic enough to be used for hiding minor bot edits (not necessarily reversions) The only common factor between collapsing reversions and hiding minor and/or bot edits is the fact that you're hiding things from the history view. As far as detection goes, the two are completely separate problems: one requires a checksum to be added to the revision table, the other requires the minor/bot flags to be added to that table. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) Seems a good point to me. It should be designed right the first time, so it can easily be extended to handle all similar revision collapsings. PS: The minor flag is already there. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Community vs. centralized development
On 9/11/10 2:48 PM, Jamie Morken wrote: Doing the same on my log of the secret channel gives 100903 00:03:40, meaning it has roughly the same traffic level as #wikimedia-tech over that period. Anyone who hangs out there can tell you that almost nothing there is secret. I can't speak for private-l, because I'm not on it. Which channel are you talking about? Regarding private-l, my understanding is that that list was originally set up to deal with real-life wikistalking issues, which obviously requires privacy to discuss. Please correct me if that is incorrect. Ryan Kaldari ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Selenium Framework - standard directory for selenium tests
Are there any standards for where to put selenium tests? Right now the Simple Selenium test is in phase3/maintenance/tests/selenium and the PagedTiffHandler selenium tests are in PagedTiffHandler/selenium. This suggests a convention of putting extension selenium test files in a sub- directory of the top-level directory named 'selenium'. Is that an official convention? -- -- Dan Nessett ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Selenium Framework - standard directory for selenium tests
Hi Dan, I believe we decided that selenium tests should go under: Extension/tests/selenium/ -p On 09/13/2010 12:04 PM, Dan Nessett wrote: Are there any standards for where to put selenium tests? Right now the Simple Selenium test is in phase3/maintenance/tests/selenium and the PagedTiffHandler selenium tests are in PagedTiffHandler/selenium. This suggests a convention of putting extension selenium test files in a sub- directory of the top-level directory named 'selenium'. Is that an official convention? -- Priyanka Dhanda Code Maintenance Engineer Wikimedia Foundation http://wikimediafoundation.org San Francisco, CA ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Community vs. centralized development
On 13 September 2010 21:14, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: I think that Jamie has started an important topic. I don't think that WMF is going to usurp Wikipedia and the sister projects now or in the future, but it is statistically possible. If we want to protect us, the human knowledge and our work of this hypothetical scenario, we need complete full dumps frequently. But this scenario is a malicious one, and I think that there are many more dangerous posibilities, and unfortunately, they are common. For example, small or massive lost of data due to natural disasters, crackers attacks, stolen passwords, hardware and software bugs, sudden crazy sysops, and _human errors_. Is WMF ready for that? Shit happening is by far more likely than malice. Denise considers job #1 the elimination of existing single points of failure, so that's something. And she knows her stuff. And has the proper sysadminly horror at the notion of systems susceptible to such. - d. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] SUL statistics
Are there any recent statistics about SUL? How many accounts exist on Wikimedia projects, how many accounts are SUL, how many unconflicting non-SUL accounts remain, how many conflicts remain? How many Wikimedia projects participate in SUL and how many and which are not part of it? Thanks Marcus Buck User:Slomox ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] SUL statistics
Hoi, It is impossible to guess how many SUL user names remain as user names can be in any Unicode script. As more scripts will be added to Unicode, there is no method to even guess at the number. Thanks, GerardM On 13 September 2010 23:31, Marcus Buck w...@marcusbuck.org wrote: Are there any recent statistics about SUL? How many accounts exist on Wikimedia projects, how many accounts are SUL, how many unconflicting non-SUL accounts remain, how many conflicts remain? How many Wikimedia projects participate in SUL and how many and which are not part of it? Thanks Marcus Buck User:Slomox ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Community vs. centralized development
Also, I think that we need to start mirroring Wiki[mp]edia dumps to other servers around the globe, as the common GNU/Linux ISOs mirrors do. Also, Library of Congress said some time ago that they are going to save a copy of all the tweets sent to Twitter.[6] When are they going to save a copy of Wiki[mp]edia? I hope we have learnt a bit since Library of Alexandria was destroyed. They've actually just reached out to us to discuss archiving all of the Wikimedia projects :) Discussions are in their early stages but I'll happily update as I know more. --tomasz ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Get full-protecting article list monthly
Dear All, May I ask how I can get the full-protecting article lists monthly? I can get the current one by searching lock link. Is that some tools for this? thanks, Zeyi ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Weekly test framework deployment meetings
Hi everyone, There's a few of us that have been having regular meetings every other week over Skype to discuss test framework deployment (e.g. Selenium, phpUnit, CruiseControl, etc). The project page for this project is here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Test_framework_deployment The notes from the last meeting are here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Test_framework_deployment/Meeting_notes_2010-09-10 We wanted to make these meetings more inclusive, while still preserving our ability to hold a voice session. Here's the plan we cooked up: * We hold the meeting every week, alternating between using voice one week and using IRC (#mediawiki) the next * Publish the notes on mediawiki.org * Establish a low bar for being invited to the Skype session The bar we generally want to establish for being on the Skype call: * You've productively contributed to the test framework conversation in email and/or IRC * You've been productive and non-disruptive on any previous calls you've been on * You ask to be on the call ahead of time (giving your Skype ID). The next meeting we plan to have is Friday, September 17, 9:30am PDT (16:30 UTC) on #mediawiki. Hope to see you there! Rob ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] SUL statistics
I don't believe Marcus Buck asked that. Here's what he did ask, as far as I can tell: - How many accounts exist on Wikimedia projects - how many accounts are SUL - how many unconflicting non-SUL accounts remain - how many conflicts remain - How many Wikimedia projects participate in SUL - how many are not part of it - which [projects] are not part of it Even if usernames were limited to the Latin alphabet, the fact that they can be up to 64 characters long as far as I can tell means that the number of possible combinations would be astronomical in nature; I can't imagine why someone would ask such a question on this list. On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, It is impossible to guess how many SUL user names remain as user names can be in any Unicode script. As more scripts will be added to Unicode, there is no method to even guess at the number. Thanks, GerardM On 13 September 2010 23:31, Marcus Buck w...@marcusbuck.org wrote: Are there any recent statistics about SUL? How many accounts exist on Wikimedia projects, how many accounts are SUL, how many unconflicting non-SUL accounts remain, how many conflicts remain? How many Wikimedia projects participate in SUL and how many and which are not part of it? Thanks Marcus Buck User:Slomox ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Community vs. centralized development
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: Regarding private-l, my understanding is that that list was originally set up to deal with real-life wikistalking issues, which obviously requires privacy to discuss. Please correct me if that is incorrect. My understanding of private-l is that it's the Wikimedia shell/root sysadmin discussion list, it just has a very bad name. I could be wrong too though. :-) -- Casey Brown Cbrown1023 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] SUL statistics
Marcus Buck wrote: Are there any recent statistics about SUL? How many accounts exist on Wikimedia projects, how many accounts are SUL, how many unconflicting non-SUL accounts remain, how many conflicts remain? How many Wikimedia projects participate in SUL and how many and which are not part of it? All Wikimedia projects are part of SUL now. The wikis under WMF control that are not on it are either private wikis or sandbox wikis. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Community vs. centralized development
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: Regarding private-l, my understanding is that that list was originally set up to deal with real-life wikistalking issues, which obviously requires privacy to discuss. Please correct me if that is incorrect. My understanding of private-l is that it's the Wikimedia shell/root sysadmin discussion list, it just has a very bad name. I could be wrong too though. :-) Yep. It's a sysadmin list. Name kinda sucks :) -Chad ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Weekly test framework deployment meetings
Rob, you forgot to mention where/whom to ask to be invited for the Skype call. I'm sure you'd not want those requests to go to the mailing list (I at least wouldn't want them to). Siebrand -Original Message- From: wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Lanphier Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:16 AM To: Wikimedia developers Subject: [Wikitech-l] Weekly test framework deployment meetings [..] * You ask to be on the call ahead of time (giving your Skype ID). [..] ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] WikiXMLArticleIndexer
Hi all, We have a beta version of the code for reading the XML dump and extracting the article names with their associated images. It is in the yahoo group wikishare files section folder WikiXMLArticleIndexer. Also uploaded to: http://nekrom.com/red79/WikiXMLArticleIndexer.zip It uses a zipreader library: http://www.icsharpcode.net/opensource/sharpziplib/; so that it can stream the data from the file without having to unzip the file. I tested it on these two files so far: enwiki-20100622-pages-articles.xml.bz2 simplewiki-20100902-pages-articles.xml.bz2 The output file has one article name per line, and then has the images (including the full download URL) in that article in quotation marks. One cool thing we came across was the image download URL's. Like for 2/28/Bakuninfull.jpg, the 2/28 folder is encoded in the file name Bakuninfull.jpg using an MD5 hash (neato!) The full path of the images are these url's: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Bakuninfull.jpg; and when we make the download script we can add the desired thumbnail scaling to the image ie. like this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Bakuninfull.jpg/220px-Bakuninfull.jpg; Only bad news is its in C# :P cheers, Jamie Here's the top few lines of output from running on enwiki-20100622-pages-articles.xml.bz2 Anarchism 2/28/Bakuninfull.jpg 3/36/German_anti-communist_poster_1918.jpg 8/84/Members_of_the_Maquis_in_La_Tresorerie.jpg 0/0f/ParcGuellOkupas.jpg b/b5/Max_stirner.jpg a/a6/WilliamGodwin.jpg e/ea/Portrait_of_Pierre_Joseph_Proudhon_1865.jpg 0/00/Kropotkin2.jpg e/ed/Jarach_and_Zerzan.JPG 2/23/Emilearmand01.jpg b/b8/Fransisco_Ferrer_Guardia.jpg 7/7d/Gadewar.jpg Autism 0/0d/Autistic-sweetiepie-boy-with-ducksinarow.jpg 8/83/Autismbrain.jpg 7/72/Opening_a_window_to_the_autistic_brain.jpg Albedo b/ba/water_reflectivity.jpg Alabama b/bb/Alabama.JPG 4/48/AlabamaWelcome.JPG 8/87/Map_of_Alabama_terrain_NA.jpg 6/6e/Birmingham_panorama.jpg 3/39/Downtown_Mobile_2008_01.jpg b/b2/100_1830.JPG b/be/Montgomery_Alabama_panorama.jpg e/e1/Alabama_winter_2008.jpg c/cd/Alabama_quarter,_reverse_side,_2003.jpg 7/7f/Mobile_Alabama_harbor_aerial_view.jpg b/b1/Alabama_state_capitol,_Montgomery.jpg 1/19/Bob_Riley_greeting_soldiers_in_Birmingham,_19_Jan,_2004.jpg d/d4/Harrison-plaza2.jpg Achilles c/cf/Leon_Benouville_The_Wrath_of_Achilles.jpg 1/11/The_Education_of_Achilles,_by_James_Barry.jpg d/dd/AmbrosianIliadPict47Achilles.jpg 5/58/Triumph_of_Achilles_in_Corfu_Achilleion.jpg 1/1c/Achilles_thniskon_in_Corfu.jpg a/a0/Aias_body_Akhilleus_Staatliche_Antikensammlungen_1884.jpg c/c4/Achilles_in_Corfu.JPG 0/01/Wenceslas_Hollar_-_Briseis_and_Achilles.jpg Abraham Lincoln 3/38/Abe-Lincoln-Birthplace-2.jpg f/f6/Aamp;TLincoln.jpg 4/4f/Abe_Lincoln_young.jpg 4/4b/Young_Lincoln-1c.jpg 2/27/Abraham_Lincoln_by_Alexander_Helser,_1860-crop.jpg c/cf/Lincoln_Douglas_Debates_1958_issue-4c.jpg 1/13/The_Rail_Candidate.jpg 4/41/Lincoln_1896_issue-4c.jpg 6/60/Abraham_lincoln_inauguration_1861.jpg 6/64/RunningtheMachine-LincAdmin.jpg 6/67/PinkertonLincolnMcClernand.jpg b/bb/Lincoln_second.jpg 5/52/Abraham_Lincoln_1866_Issue-15c.jpg a/a2/Al16.jpg a/ab/TheApotheosisLincolnAndWashington1860s.jpg 8/84/Abraham_Lincoln_Airmail_1960_Issue-25c.jpg Aristotle e/e7/Arabic_aristotle.jpg a/ae/Aristotle_in_Nuremberg_Chronicle.jpg 9/98/Sanzio_01_Plato_Aristotle.jpg 7/77/Uni_Freiburg_-_Philosophen_4.jpg 3/33/Octopus3.jpg 1/13/Torpedo_fuscomaculata2.jpg c/cd/Triakis_semifasciata.jpg 6/63/161Theophrastus_161_frontespizio.jpg a/a4/Aristoteles_Louvre.jpg Academy Award d/d6/31st_Acad_Awards.jpg d/d9/81st_Academy_Awards_Ceremony.JPG Animalia (book) f/f2/Animalia.jpg Altruism a/a9/Belisaire_demandant_l'aumone_Jacques-Louis_David.jpg ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Weekly test framework deployment meetings
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Siebrand Mazeland s.mazel...@xs4all.nl wrote: Rob, you forgot to mention where/whom to ask to be invited for the Skype call. I'm sure you'd not want those requests to go to the mailing list (I at least wouldn't want them to). Oops...sorry. Ask me directly. Thanks Rob ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Community vs. centralized development
Hi Tomasz, That is great news, congrats! I am happy they are spending time to archive wikis, I also am praying that my post ends up in the correct thread. cheers, Jamie - Original Message - From: Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org Date: Monday, September 13, 2010 3:09 pm Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Community vs. centralized development To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org Also, I think that we need to start mirroring Wiki[mp]edia dumps to other servers around the globe, as the common GNU/Linux ISOs mirrors do. Also, Library of Congress said some time ago that they are going to save a copy of all the tweets sent to Twitter.[6] When are they going to save a copy of Wiki[mp]edia? I hope we have learnt a bit since Library of Alexandria was destroyed. They've actually just reached out to us to discuss archiving all of the Wikimedia projects :) Discussions are in their early stages but I'll happily update as I know more. --tomasz ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
