[Wikitech-l] Dashboard for the Non-roman scripts support of Visual Editor

[Ryu Cheol]

Hello, visual editor developers and language engineers.

As you know, some scripts are not supported by visual editor yet. I know you 
are working very hard to deploy the visual editor to other projects.

I started a table on meta, 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Visual_Editor/Asian_language_support, to share 
the current state for Non-roman scripts support in Visual Editor. I could meet 
various scripts users at an Asian meetup in Wikimania HK. We talked on the 
issue and hoped to assist the efforts. I would try to summarize the status and 
request testings of VE to the Asian Wikimedians who use the various scripts. 

I would like to hear what the visual editor team and team language engineering 
team think about this page.
I think the name of the table could be expanded to include the other non-roman 
scripts. 

Cheol
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Re: [Wikitech-l] CirrusSearch live on test2wiki

[Nikolas Everett]

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Daniel Friesen
wrote:

> Wait, Elasticsearch? I thought the original discussions were about Solr?
>

It certainly started that way but there were but some rather insistent
folks talked me in to giving Elasticsearch a chance.  I spent a week
putting together a prototype and I was so impressed that I convinced us to
move over.  I'm reasonably sure I sent out an email at the time.  I know I
updated the RFC.  In any case, that is where we are.

As far what impressed me about elasticsearch:
I like the documentation.
I like the query syntax.
I like the fully baked schema api.
I (mostly) liked the source code itself.
i like the deb package.
I like how organized the bug submission and contribution process is.
Seriously, if you are running an open source project, build something like
http://www.elasticsearch.org/contributing-to-elasticsearch/ .  Forcing the
user to reproduce bugs with curl is genius for a service like elasticsearch.

So, yeah, we started with solr but didn't stay there.

Nik
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Re: [Wikitech-l] CirrusSearch live on test2wiki

[Chad]

Original discussions were with Solr. We evaluated both and went with
Elastic. The Solr attempt is in the 'solr' branch on the git repo.

-Chad

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Daniel Friesen
wrote:

> Wait, Elasticsearch? I thought the original discussions were about Solr?
>
> ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/]
>
> On 2013-08-15 5:07 PM, Chad wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > If you haven't been following along with development, we're working on
> > replacing
> > MWSearch/lsearchd with CirrusSearch (powered by Elasticsearch). Nik and I
> > been working on this for the last several weeks and now it's ready for
> > wider testing
> > outside of labs.
> >
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] CirrusSearch live on test2wiki

[Daniel Friesen]

Wait, Elasticsearch? I thought the original discussions were about Solr?

~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/]

On 2013-08-15 5:07 PM, Chad wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> If you haven't been following along with development, we're working on
> replacing
> MWSearch/lsearchd with CirrusSearch (powered by Elasticsearch). Nik and I
> been working on this for the last several weeks and now it's ready for
> wider testing
> outside of labs.
>

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[Wikitech-l] CirrusSearch live on test2wiki

[Chad]

Hi all,

If you haven't been following along with development, we're working on
replacing
MWSearch/lsearchd with CirrusSearch (powered by Elasticsearch). Nik and I
been working on this for the last several weeks and now it's ready for
wider testing
outside of labs.

This is invitation for you to play with some totally alpha software and
report all
kinds of bugs you may find. So hop on over to https://test2.wikipedia.organd
mess around with Special:Search and the API's list search and prefix search.

When testing this, it's useful to compare results from the old and new
engines.
I added some query parameters that let you toggle between them. Just add
srbackend=LuceneSearch|CirrusSearch to force one or the other.

All bugs can be filed in BZ under the CirrusSearch component[0]. Depending
on how things go, we'd like to roll this out for mw.org on the 28th. Happy
bug
hunting :D

-Chad

[0]
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=CirrusSearch
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving the scribunto development experience

[Yury Katkov]

Indeed there is such need. In fact MediaWiki template language itself
requires an IDE: WikEd is not enough.

-
Yury Katkov, WikiVote



On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Mathieu Stumpf <
psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Having some fun with the scribunto possibilities, I also found some
> drawbacks in the UX. Having to scroll to switching between the code
> panel and the debug panel is prohibitive. Making a better web IDE is
> possible, take a look at [1] for example: at one glance you have the
> documentation (exercises specifications in the case of the previous
> site), the code doing the fine job, the code testing it, the
> debug/result console.
>
> Now one may prefer to use it's favorite editor/IDE anyway, in which case
> one may wonder how to proceed to get and install scribunto librairies in
> order to test the code on the local box. That should be documented
> somewhere, as well as how to make a git/mediawiki bridge to ease the
> whole process. If such a documentation already exists, please point me
> there.
>
> Ok, that was my "thought of the day". :P
>
> [1] http://www.codingame.com/cg/
>
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[Wikitech-l] Improving the scribunto development experience

[Mathieu Stumpf]

Hello,

Having some fun with the scribunto possibilities, I also found some
drawbacks in the UX. Having to scroll to switching between the code
panel and the debug panel is prohibitive. Making a better web IDE is
possible, take a look at [1] for example: at one glance you have the
documentation (exercises specifications in the case of the previous
site), the code doing the fine job, the code testing it, the
debug/result console.

Now one may prefer to use it's favorite editor/IDE anyway, in which case
one may wonder how to proceed to get and install scribunto librairies in
order to test the code on the local box. That should be documented
somewhere, as well as how to make a git/mediawiki bridge to ease the
whole process. If such a documentation already exists, please point me
there.

Ok, that was my "thought of the day". :P

[1] http://www.codingame.com/cg/

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving MediaWiki's README (bug 50552)

[MZMcBride]

Tyler Romeo wrote:
>Awesome! I went bold and made some changes. It already looks significantly
>better than our current README.

Hi.

Just noting here that  has now been
marked resolved/fixed. You can see a much improved version of the README
here: .

Thanks to everyone who helped make the README more focused and welcoming.
Anyone and everyone should feel free to continue editing
 and it will occasionally be
re-synced with the distribution file.

MZMcBride



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