Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Fwd: Deployment highlights for the week of Sept 23rd

2013-09-21 Thread billinghurst
Excellent news! Would someone be able to provide or point to some
configuration and examples that English Wikisource can utilise to allow
some side-by-side searches, and some guidance that can be provided to the
community on the new features and their use (if there us any).

Regards, Billinghurst

 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 14:48:00 -0700
 From: Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org
 To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org, Development
 and Operations engineers engineer...@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Deployment highlights for the week of Sept 23rd
 
 Hello!
 
 Here's what's coming up, deployment-wise, next week!
 
 
 As always, full schedule here:
 https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments
 
 
 == Monday ==
 
 * MediaWiki 1.22wmf18 to all non-wikipedia project sites
 * WikiData will be enabled on Wikimedia Commons (interwiki links)
 * CirrusSearch (the new search backend) will be turned on as the
default
   search backend for Italian Wikitionary and enabled as a secondary
   backend for English Wikisource and Catalan Wikipedia.
 
 
 == Tuesday ==
 
 * CirrusSearch will be enabled on the set of closed wikis (eg: old
   Wikimania wikis).
 
 
 == Thursday ==
 
 * MediaWiki 1.22wmf18 will be deployed to all Wikipedias
 * MediaWiki 1.22wmf19 will be deployed to the set of test wikis plus
   mediawiki.org
 
 
 
 Have a good weekend!
 
 Greg

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Fwd: Deployment highlights for the week of Sept 23rd

2013-09-21 Thread Chad
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:47 PM, billinghurst billinghu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Excellent news! Would someone be able to provide or point to some
 configuration and examples that English Wikisource can utilise to allow
 some side-by-side searches, and some guidance that can be provided to the
 community on the new features and their use (if there us any).


I think Nik's e-mail from when we deployed to mw.org is still the
best info.

http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-August/071548.html

-Chad
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Re: [Wikitech-l] RfC update: LESS stylesheet support in core

2013-09-21 Thread Brion Vibber
Ok, we've had another round of review and updates, and it sounds like
people are pretty content with the functionality and the conventions we're
coming up with around LESS usage; and I don't hear many strong objections.

If there's no last-minute surprises from anybody, I'll drop the +2 hammer
on the core support https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/78669/ later
today, and folks can start using it.

-- brion


On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Dan Andreescu dandree...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 12:53 PM, C. Scott Ananian
 canan...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

  On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 
   I personally think it'd be unfortunate for this current effort to
  collapse
   over such considerations, but I'm obviously biased.
  
 
  Oh, I certainly agree.  For my part, I'm satisfied that the
  LESS/Sass/stylus issues have been adequately thought through (maybe some
 of
  this can make it back into the RfC).  The
  http://leafo.net/lessphp/docs/#custom_functions stuff looks very
  promising,
  it probably should be explicitly mentioned in any LESS for MW docs we
  write.  I look forward to seeing the @import guidelines as well.
   --scott


 Heartily agree as well.  I alluded to this in my longer answer.  Basically
 Stylus/SASS do seem to be slightly ahead of LESS but it's a vanishing
 difference and meaningLESS over the long term.

  The biggest gains to be had from using a CSS
  preprocessor tend to come from the most
  basic features

 This I think is a most astute point from Ori.  It's why I made the analogy
 to Coco.  I don't and never will use any of the complicated crazy Coco
 constructs.  But writing class LineNode extends TimeseriesNode instead of
 all the JS boilerplate for classes and inheritance is good.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Fwd: Deployment highlights for the week of Sept 23rd

2013-09-21 Thread Nikolas Everett
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:47 PM, billinghurst billinghu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Excellent news! Would someone be able to provide or point to some
 configuration and examples that English Wikisource can utilise to allow
 some side-by-side searches, and some guidance that can be provided to the
 community on the new features and their use (if there us any).


 I think Nik's e-mail from when we deployed to mw.org is still the
 best info.

 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-August/071548.html


CirrusSearch is pretty much a work alike for the current search so I
haven't done too much documenting.  I'll fill out
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Search/CirrusSearchFeatures a boiled
down list of features.  The big one I think you care about is that
templates are evaluated during indexing.

If you can't wait you can read the regression tests here:
http://git.wikimedia.org/tree/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FCirrusSearch.git/master/tests%2Fbrowser%2Ffeatures
.  They are written in cucumber so they should be reasonably readable.
 Fair warning: I use the term page and article pretty much
interchangeably.  Also one of the tests is failing on my development
machine but I haven't commented it out with an associated bug like I
usually do because, well, I like looking at it failing I guess.  The
bug is here: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53426

Nik

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Re: [Wikitech-l] RfC update: LESS stylesheet support in core

2013-09-21 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 21/09/13 19:50, Brion Vibber a écrit :
 Ok, we've had another round of review and updates, and it sounds like
 people are pretty content with the functionality and the conventions we're
 coming up with around LESS usage; and I don't hear many strong objections.
 
 If there's no last-minute surprises from anybody, I'll drop the +2 hammer
 on the core support https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/78669/ later
 today, and folks can start using it.

Hello Brion,

Thank you for the last minute mail notification on wikitech-l regarding
less implementation.

I have cast a few minor concerns on patchset 31, mostly related to the
way the cache key is forged :-/  Hopefully I have been missing something
and that is not going to delay the patch any further.

cheers,

-- 
Antoine hashar Musso


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