Re: [Wikitech-l] RfC update: LESS stylesheet support in core
On Sep 19, 2013, at 11:19 PM, C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.org wrote: @dan: the particular less isn't very powerful issues I'm concerned about are the ones solved by compass. As is well-known, there is no equivalent to compass for less, and is not likely every to be, since less can not express the transformations required. Compass uses ruby code to do this w/ sass. For example, https://github.com/chriseppstein/compass/blob/stable/lib/compass/sass_extensions/functions/gradient_support.rbis the code in compass in order to generate clean gradient specifications that work with all major browsers (including synthesizing SVG background images where required). (Spec in http://compass-style.org/reference/compass/css3/images/ ). Now, maybe we don't actually need all that power. But the automatic cross-browser compatibility it allows sure is nice... --scott As Ori pointed out, these could be implemented as Less functions in PHP land. However note that (for me) one the reasons I prefer Less over Sass with Compass is that it allows more fine-grained control over browser support and doesn't take the insane approach of trying to support everything and leaving you with very minimal options to switch things off. For example, in the of older browsers supporting SVG background-image but not CSS3 gradients, I'd say just drop that and only provide CSS3 gradient + vendor prefixed versions thereof and have it fallback for the rest. You're gonna have to provide that fallback anyway for browsers that support neither CSS3 or SVG. Optimise for the future, not for the past (those browsers are getting smaller in usage). It's not worth it to generate and serve that SVG to all clients. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] RfC update: LESS stylesheet support in core
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Ok, we've had another round of review and updates, and it sounds like people are pretty content with the functionality and the conventions we're coming up with around LESS usage; and I don't hear many strong objections. If there's no last-minute surprises from anybody, I'll drop the +2 hammer on the core support https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/78669/ later today, and folks can start using it. There were a couple of suggestions to expand the inline documentation for the configuration vars, which I did. Unless there are objections, I recommend merging it in tandem with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/85143/. My sincere thanks to all reviewers. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Categories without interwiki
Hello, Persian Wikipedia is one of the largest wikis based on number of categories but It's not very common that people consider adding interwiki of categories (they think interwiki is just for articles) so we have tons of tons (before writing my engine that was 30K out of 170K) categories without any interwikis which is really bad. I wrote some codes to make it better but It wasn't enough So I wrote an engine that gets two database: 1-list of categories without interwiki 2-list of categories with interwiki to a certain language (e.g. English) with the target interwiki and after that my bot analyzes and guess what is the correct interwiki of category based on patterns of naming them in the second database and bot reports. After running this code on fa.wp there was a very huge report [1] and we started to sort things out (merging duplicates [2], deleting extra ones, adding the correct iw) and now it's less than 25K categories without interwikis (and It's becoming less and less) we did the same on templates namespace [3] and we interwikified more than 10K templates after that. And because this engine doesn't use any language-related analyses It can be ran in any language and get interwiki from any language (we planned to run this on Persian Wikipedia again but this time we use Dutch and German languages as repo of interwiki) So here is my question: Is there similar situation in your wiki? Do you want to run this code in your wiki too? Do you have any suggestion? [1]: https://fa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=کاربر:Ladsgroup/ ردههاoldid=10959457 [2]: One of the benefits of running this engine is we can find duplicates [3]: https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1:Ladsgroup/%D8%A7%D9%84%DA%AF%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C Best --- Amir ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Categories without interwiki
Hoi, What is the problem with people NOT considering interwiki links to categories as being relevant.. They are not the only ones. In a similar way I have asked several times what the point is of interwiki links for disambiguation pages.. The only answer I got was along the lines of because we can. Similarly I do not understand the point of interwiki links to categories. What is achieved by it ? So technically you may do or have done a good job. When people appreciate it, good for you. But I fail to see the point. Thanks, GerardM On 22 September 2013 21:54, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Persian Wikipedia is one of the largest wikis based on number of categories but It's not very common that people consider adding interwiki of categories (they think interwiki is just for articles) so we have tons of tons (before writing my engine that was 30K out of 170K) categories without any interwikis which is really bad. I wrote some codes to make it better but It wasn't enough So I wrote an engine that gets two database: 1-list of categories without interwiki 2-list of categories with interwiki to a certain language (e.g. English) with the target interwiki and after that my bot analyzes and guess what is the correct interwiki of category based on patterns of naming them in the second database and bot reports. After running this code on fa.wp there was a very huge report [1] and we started to sort things out (merging duplicates [2], deleting extra ones, adding the correct iw) and now it's less than 25K categories without interwikis (and It's becoming less and less) we did the same on templates namespace [3] and we interwikified more than 10K templates after that. And because this engine doesn't use any language-related analyses It can be ran in any language and get interwiki from any language (we planned to run this on Persian Wikipedia again but this time we use Dutch and German languages as repo of interwiki) So here is my question: Is there similar situation in your wiki? Do you want to run this code in your wiki too? Do you have any suggestion? [1]: https://fa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=کاربر:Ladsgroup/ ردههاoldid=10959457 [2]: One of the benefits of running this engine is we can find duplicates [3]: https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1:Ladsgroup/%D8%A7%D9%84%DA%AF%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C Best --- Amir ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Categories without interwiki
That was a very good question! In Persian Wikipedia, there is another engine that adds categories in articles based on usage of them in English Wikipedia and in order to avoid mistakes that engine uses a pretty damn complicated algorithm that I have no clue what's that but It's working properly in Persian Wikipedia so We need interwiki of categories in order to fill them by bots Best On 9/22/13, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, What is the problem with people NOT considering interwiki links to categories as being relevant.. They are not the only ones. In a similar way I have asked several times what the point is of interwiki links for disambiguation pages.. The only answer I got was along the lines of because we can. Similarly I do not understand the point of interwiki links to categories. What is achieved by it ? So technically you may do or have done a good job. When people appreciate it, good for you. But I fail to see the point. Thanks, GerardM On 22 September 2013 21:54, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Persian Wikipedia is one of the largest wikis based on number of categories but It's not very common that people consider adding interwiki of categories (they think interwiki is just for articles) so we have tons of tons (before writing my engine that was 30K out of 170K) categories without any interwikis which is really bad. I wrote some codes to make it better but It wasn't enough So I wrote an engine that gets two database: 1-list of categories without interwiki 2-list of categories with interwiki to a certain language (e.g. English) with the target interwiki and after that my bot analyzes and guess what is the correct interwiki of category based on patterns of naming them in the second database and bot reports. After running this code on fa.wp there was a very huge report [1] and we started to sort things out (merging duplicates [2], deleting extra ones, adding the correct iw) and now it's less than 25K categories without interwikis (and It's becoming less and less) we did the same on templates namespace [3] and we interwikified more than 10K templates after that. And because this engine doesn't use any language-related analyses It can be ran in any language and get interwiki from any language (we planned to run this on Persian Wikipedia again but this time we use Dutch and German languages as repo of interwiki) So here is my question: Is there similar situation in your wiki? Do you want to run this code in your wiki too? Do you have any suggestion? [1]: https://fa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=کاربر:Ladsgroup/ ردههاoldid=10959457 [2]: One of the benefits of running this engine is we can find duplicates [3]: https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1:Ladsgroup/%D8%A7%D9%84%DA%AF%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C Best --- Amir ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Amir ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Categories without interwiki
Hoi, grin your answer is like because they make similar categories like on en.wp it does not answer the question if that makes sense and it does not answer the question why this should be replicated in turn in Wikidata. /grin Thanks, GerardM On 22 September 2013 22:41, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com wrote: That was a very good question! In Persian Wikipedia, there is another engine that adds categories in articles based on usage of them in English Wikipedia and in order to avoid mistakes that engine uses a pretty damn complicated algorithm that I have no clue what's that but It's working properly in Persian Wikipedia so We need interwiki of categories in order to fill them by bots Best On 9/22/13, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, What is the problem with people NOT considering interwiki links to categories as being relevant.. They are not the only ones. In a similar way I have asked several times what the point is of interwiki links for disambiguation pages.. The only answer I got was along the lines of because we can. Similarly I do not understand the point of interwiki links to categories. What is achieved by it ? So technically you may do or have done a good job. When people appreciate it, good for you. But I fail to see the point. Thanks, GerardM On 22 September 2013 21:54, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Persian Wikipedia is one of the largest wikis based on number of categories but It's not very common that people consider adding interwiki of categories (they think interwiki is just for articles) so we have tons of tons (before writing my engine that was 30K out of 170K) categories without any interwikis which is really bad. I wrote some codes to make it better but It wasn't enough So I wrote an engine that gets two database: 1-list of categories without interwiki 2-list of categories with interwiki to a certain language (e.g. English) with the target interwiki and after that my bot analyzes and guess what is the correct interwiki of category based on patterns of naming them in the second database and bot reports. After running this code on fa.wp there was a very huge report [1] and we started to sort things out (merging duplicates [2], deleting extra ones, adding the correct iw) and now it's less than 25K categories without interwikis (and It's becoming less and less) we did the same on templates namespace [3] and we interwikified more than 10K templates after that. And because this engine doesn't use any language-related analyses It can be ran in any language and get interwiki from any language (we planned to run this on Persian Wikipedia again but this time we use Dutch and German languages as repo of interwiki) So here is my question: Is there similar situation in your wiki? Do you want to run this code in your wiki too? Do you have any suggestion? [1]: https://fa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=کاربر:Ladsgroup/ ردههاoldid=10959457 [2]: One of the benefits of running this engine is we can find duplicates [3]: https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1:Ladsgroup/%D8%A7%D9%84%DA%AF%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C Best --- Amir ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Amir ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Categories without interwiki
In the past I was asked do certain statistics based on categories for wikinews. Having interwikis was rather key for that. -bawolff On 2013-09-22 5:26 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, What is the problem with people NOT considering interwiki links to categories as being relevant.. They are not the only ones. In a similar way I have asked several times what the point is of interwiki links for disambiguation pages.. The only answer I got was along the lines of because we can. Similarly I do not understand the point of interwiki links to categories. What is achieved by it ? So technically you may do or have done a good job. When people appreciate it, good for you. But I fail to see the point. Thanks, GerardM On 22 September 2013 21:54, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Persian Wikipedia is one of the largest wikis based on number of categories but It's not very common that people consider adding interwiki of categories (they think interwiki is just for articles) so we have tons of tons (before writing my engine that was 30K out of 170K) categories without any interwikis which is really bad. I wrote some codes to make it better but It wasn't enough So I wrote an engine that gets two database: 1-list of categories without interwiki 2-list of categories with interwiki to a certain language (e.g. English) with the target interwiki and after that my bot analyzes and guess what is the correct interwiki of category based on patterns of naming them in the second database and bot reports. After running this code on fa.wp there was a very huge report [1] and we started to sort things out (merging duplicates [2], deleting extra ones, adding the correct iw) and now it's less than 25K categories without interwikis (and It's becoming less and less) we did the same on templates namespace [3] and we interwikified more than 10K templates after that. And because this engine doesn't use any language-related analyses It can be ran in any language and get interwiki from any language (we planned to run this on Persian Wikipedia again but this time we use Dutch and German languages as repo of interwiki) So here is my question: Is there similar situation in your wiki? Do you want to run this code in your wiki too? Do you have any suggestion? [1]: https://fa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=کاربر:Ladsgroup/ ردههاoldid=10959457 [2]: One of the benefits of running this engine is we can find duplicates [3]: https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1:Ladsgroup/%D8%A7%D9%84%DA%AF%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C Best --- Amir ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Categories without interwiki
Hoi, Again this does not answer the question why it makes sense to have interwiki links for categories in Wikidata. Thanks, GerardM On 22 September 2013 23:56, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: In the past I was asked do certain statistics based on categories for wikinews. Having interwikis was rather key for that. -bawolff On 2013-09-22 5:26 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, What is the problem with people NOT considering interwiki links to categories as being relevant.. They are not the only ones. In a similar way I have asked several times what the point is of interwiki links for disambiguation pages.. The only answer I got was along the lines of because we can. Similarly I do not understand the point of interwiki links to categories. What is achieved by it ? So technically you may do or have done a good job. When people appreciate it, good for you. But I fail to see the point. Thanks, GerardM On 22 September 2013 21:54, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Persian Wikipedia is one of the largest wikis based on number of categories but It's not very common that people consider adding interwiki of categories (they think interwiki is just for articles) so we have tons of tons (before writing my engine that was 30K out of 170K) categories without any interwikis which is really bad. I wrote some codes to make it better but It wasn't enough So I wrote an engine that gets two database: 1-list of categories without interwiki 2-list of categories with interwiki to a certain language (e.g. English) with the target interwiki and after that my bot analyzes and guess what is the correct interwiki of category based on patterns of naming them in the second database and bot reports. After running this code on fa.wp there was a very huge report [1] and we started to sort things out (merging duplicates [2], deleting extra ones, adding the correct iw) and now it's less than 25K categories without interwikis (and It's becoming less and less) we did the same on templates namespace [3] and we interwikified more than 10K templates after that. And because this engine doesn't use any language-related analyses It can be ran in any language and get interwiki from any language (we planned to run this on Persian Wikipedia again but this time we use Dutch and German languages as repo of interwiki) So here is my question: Is there similar situation in your wiki? Do you want to run this code in your wiki too? Do you have any suggestion? [1]: https://fa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=کاربر:Ladsgroup/ ردههاoldid=10959457 [2]: One of the benefits of running this engine is we can find duplicates [3]: https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1:Ladsgroup/%D8%A7%D9%84%DA%AF%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C Best --- Amir ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Categories without interwiki
Does it work outside Wikipedia too? I'd like to run it on some wikiquotes; seeing what categories exist in a language but not another is very useful to find out what's going on in the project(s). Nemo ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Categories without interwiki
On 22 September 2013 15:54, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Persian Wikipedia is one of the largest wikis based on number of categories but It's not very common that people consider adding interwiki of categories (they think interwiki is just for articles) so we have tons of tons (before writing my engine that was 30K out of 170K) categories without any interwikis which is really bad. I wrote some codes to make it better but It wasn't enough So I wrote an engine that gets two database: 1-list of categories without interwiki 2-list of categories with interwiki to a certain language (e.g. English) with the target interwiki and after that my bot analyzes and guess what is the correct interwiki of category based on patterns of naming them in the second database and bot reports. After running this code on fa.wp there was a very huge report [1] and we started to sort things out (merging duplicates [2], deleting extra ones, adding the correct iw) and now it's less than 25K categories without interwikis (and It's becoming less and less) we did the same on templates namespace [3] and we interwikified more than 10K templates after that. And because this engine doesn't use any language-related analyses It can be ran in any language and get interwiki from any language (we planned to run this on Persian Wikipedia again but this time we use Dutch and German languages as repo of interwiki) So here is my question: Is there similar situation in your wiki? Do you want to run this code in your wiki too? Do you have any suggestion? [1]: https://fa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=کاربر:Ladsgroup/ ردههاoldid=10959457 [2]: One of the benefits of running this engine is we can find duplicates [3]: https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1:Ladsgroup/%D8%A7%D9%84%DA%AF%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C Best --- Hi Amir - I have a different question. Why is it in the interests of Fawiki to use the same categorization system as any other project? I ask this because I know that almost every Wikipedia has variations in the way that it categorizes articles and other pages, and there is not really a cross-wiki standard - nor would I expect one. Categorization is more or less in the same realm as defining notability, determining neutral point of view, and Manuals of Style: while philosophically we are very similar across all the Wikipedias, each project has a slightly different way of addressing these situations. I'd suggest that the issue isn't really a technical problem, it's more a cultural one. That is, Wikipedia community cultures have developed categorization systems slightly differently, so it is unlikely that any one will be a perfect match for another. Risker/Anne ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Categories without interwiki
One thing could be looking for an article in one language but either not knowing the correct phrase or exact spelling but knowing enough to use related categories to find the article on a different language project. And go from there On Sunday, September 22, 2013, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, Again this does not answer the question why it makes sense to have interwiki links for categories in Wikidata. Thanks, GerardM On 22 September 2013 23:56, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: In the past I was asked do certain statistics based on categories for wikinews. Having interwikis was rather key for that. -bawolff On 2013-09-22 5:26 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, What is the problem with people NOT considering interwiki links to categories as being relevant.. They are not the only ones. In a similar way I have asked several times what the point is of interwiki links for disambiguation pages.. The only answer I got was along the lines of because we can. Similarly I do not understand the point of interwiki links to categories. What is achieved by it ? So technically you may do or have done a good job. When people appreciate it, good for you. But I fail to see the point. Thanks, GerardM On 22 September 2013 21:54, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Persian Wikipedia is one of the largest wikis based on number of categories but It's not very common that people consider adding interwiki of categories (they think interwiki is just for articles) so we have tons of tons (before writing my engine that was 30K out of 170K) categories without any interwikis which is really bad. I wrote some codes to make it better but It wasn't enough So I wrote an engine that gets two database: 1-list of categories without interwiki 2-list of categories with interwiki to a certain language (e.g. English) with the target interwiki and after that my bot analyzes and guess what is the correct interwiki of category based on patterns of naming them in the second database and bot reports. After running this code on fa.wp there was a very huge report [1] and we started to sort things out (merging duplicates [2], deleting extra ones, adding the correct iw) and now it's less than 25K categories without interwikis (and It's becoming less and less) we did the same on templates namespace [3] and we interwikified more than 10K templates after that. And because this engine doesn't use any language-related analyses It can be ran in any language and get interwiki from any language (we planned to run this on Persian Wikipedia again but this time we use Dutch and German languages as repo of interwiki) So here is my question: Is there similar situation in your wiki? Do you want to run this code in your wiki too? Do you have any suggestion? [1]: https://fa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=کاربر:Ladsgroup/ ردههاoldid=10959457 [2]: One of the benefits of running this engine is we can find duplicates [3]: https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1:Ladsgroup/%D8%A7%D9%84%DA%AF%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C Best --- Amir ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report
MediaWiki Bugzilla Report for September 16, 2013 - September 23, 2013 Status changes this week Reports changed/set to UNCONFIRMED: 5 Reports changed/set to NEW: 18 Reports changed/set to ASSIGNED : 37 Reports changed/set to REOPENED : 17 Reports changed/set to PATCH_TO_RE: 66 Reports changed/set to RESOLVED : 193 Reports changed/set to VERIFIED : 44 Total reports still open : 12115 Total bugs still open : 6879 Total non-lowest prio. bugs still open: 6682 Total enhancements still open : 5236 Reports created this week: 299 Resolutions for the week: Reports marked FIXED : 150 Reports marked DUPLICATE : 25 Reports marked INVALID : 11 Reports marked WORKSFORME: 18 Reports marked WONTFIX : 9 Specific Product/Component Resolutions User Metrics Created reports per component MediaWiki extensions WikidataRepo 22 VisualEditor General 21 MediaWiki extensions MobileFrontend12 MediaWiki extensions CirrusSearch 12 Wikimedia Continuous integration11 Created reports per product MediaWiki extensions 126 Wikimedia 50 VisualEditor 44 MediaWiki 38 Wikimedia Labs11 Top 5 bug report closers aklapper [AT] wikimedia.org 17 neverett+bugzilla [AT] wikimed13 sam [AT] reedyboy.net 12 jforrester [AT] wikimedia.org 11 jrobson [AT] wikimedia.org9 Most urgent open issues Product | Component | BugID | Priority | LastChange | Assignee | Summary -- Analytics | Tech communit | 53489 | Highest | 2013-09-16 | acs[AT]bitergia.com | Relating tech contributors with organ Analytics | Tech communit | 53485 | Highest | 2013-09-18 | acs[AT]bitergia.com | Key performance indicator: analyze wh Analytics | Tech communit | 53719 | Highest | 2013-09-18 | acs[AT]bitergia.com | Only 30 repos listed in tech communit Analytics | Tech communit | 54230 | Highest | 2013-09-18 | acs[AT]bitergia.com | Tech metrics missing IRC channels MediaWiki | Installer | 47191 | Highest | 2013-09-06 | wikibugs-l[AT]lists. | [Regression] Installer: MySQL Fatal E MediaWiki ext | CentralAuth | 53498 | Highest | 2013-09-20 | wikibugs-l[AT]lists. | Auto-log-in redirecting you to Specia MediaWiki ext | Echo | 53569 | Highest | 2013-09-04 | wikibugs-l[AT]lists. | [Regression] Echo: Sending 2 e-mails MediaWiki ext | MobileFronten | 53595 | Highest | 2013-09-18 | lvilla[AT]wikimedia. | License shouldn't be hardcoded in Mob MediaWiki ext | UniversalLang | 49548 | Highest | 2013-08-22 | wikibugs-l[AT]lists. | ULS triggers aren't shown in IE8 in W MediaWiki ext | UniversalLang | 50690 | Highest | 2013-09-04 | santhosh.thottingal[ | ULS IME selector goes off-screen in R MediaWiki ext | UniversalLang | 51349 | Highest | 2013-09-09 | wikibugs-l[AT]lists. | Automated data analysis for ULS input MediaWiki ext | ValueFormatte | 48937 | Highest | 2013-09-18 | wikidata-bugs[AT]lis | Implement value formatter for time da MediaWiki ext | WikidataRepo | 50803 | Highest | 2013-08-15 | wikidata-bugs[AT]lis | Change the Location datatype to suppo MediaWiki ext | WikidataRepo | 49404 | Highest | 2013-09-06 | wikidata-bugs[AT]lis | Coordinates diffs are blank MediaWiki ext | WikidataRepo | 51876 | Highest | 2013-09-18 | wikidata-bugs[AT]lis | populateSitesTable populates interwik MediaWiki ext | WikidataRepo | 52311 | Highest | 2013-09-18 | wikidata-bugs[AT]lis | When using https on Wikidata, only so VisualEditor | ContentEditab | 33105 | Highest | 2013-09-21 | roan.kattouw[AT]gmai | VisualEditor: Preserve rich text form VisualEditor | General | 48429 | Highest | 2013-08-09 | jforrester[AT]wikime | VisualEditor: Support editing of sect Wikimedia | Apache
[Wikitech-l] IRC meeting for RFC review
I would like to have an open IRC meeting for RFC review, on Tuesday 24 September at 22:00 UTC (S.F. 3pm). We will work through a few old, neglected RFCs, and maybe consider a few new ones, depending on the interests of those present. The IRC channel will be #mediawiki-rfc. -- Tim Starling ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] IRC meeting for RFC review
In case live in another timezone: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20130924T22 *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote: I would like to have an open IRC meeting for RFC review, on Tuesday 24 September at 22:00 UTC (S.F. 3pm). We will work through a few old, neglected RFCs, and maybe consider a few new ones, depending on the interests of those present. The IRC channel will be #mediawiki-rfc. -- Tim Starling ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Categories without interwiki
Yes It works, Just give me the languages On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:18 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: Does it work outside Wikipedia too? I'd like to run it on some wikiquotes; seeing what categories exist in a language but not another is very useful to find out what's going on in the project(s). Nemo __**_ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikitech-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Amir ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Categories without interwiki
Hi, Persian Wikipedia uses the same system of categorization but not the same categories, If I want to give you an example, categories related to Iran are more deeper and better organized than the English ones but the system is the same Best On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:17 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 September 2013 15:54, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Persian Wikipedia is one of the largest wikis based on number of categories but It's not very common that people consider adding interwiki of categories (they think interwiki is just for articles) so we have tons of tons (before writing my engine that was 30K out of 170K) categories without any interwikis which is really bad. I wrote some codes to make it better but It wasn't enough So I wrote an engine that gets two database: 1-list of categories without interwiki 2-list of categories with interwiki to a certain language (e.g. English) with the target interwiki and after that my bot analyzes and guess what is the correct interwiki of category based on patterns of naming them in the second database and bot reports. After running this code on fa.wp there was a very huge report [1] and we started to sort things out (merging duplicates [2], deleting extra ones, adding the correct iw) and now it's less than 25K categories without interwikis (and It's becoming less and less) we did the same on templates namespace [3] and we interwikified more than 10K templates after that. And because this engine doesn't use any language-related analyses It can be ran in any language and get interwiki from any language (we planned to run this on Persian Wikipedia again but this time we use Dutch and German languages as repo of interwiki) So here is my question: Is there similar situation in your wiki? Do you want to run this code in your wiki too? Do you have any suggestion? [1]: https://fa.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=کاربر:Ladsgroup/ ردههاoldid=10959457 [2]: One of the benefits of running this engine is we can find duplicates [3]: https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%B1:Ladsgroup/%D8%A7%D9%84%DA%AF%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C Best --- Hi Amir - I have a different question. Why is it in the interests of Fawiki to use the same categorization system as any other project? I ask this because I know that almost every Wikipedia has variations in the way that it categorizes articles and other pages, and there is not really a cross-wiki standard - nor would I expect one. Categorization is more or less in the same realm as defining notability, determining neutral point of view, and Manuals of Style: while philosophically we are very similar across all the Wikipedias, each project has a slightly different way of addressing these situations. I'd suggest that the issue isn't really a technical problem, it's more a cultural one. That is, Wikipedia community cultures have developed categorization systems slightly differently, so it is unlikely that any one will be a perfect match for another. Risker/Anne ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Amir ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
