[Wikitech-l] Preparser: Comments after === became a part of a header in xml representation

2014-08-18 Thread Nikolay Shaplov

When I do preparsing of the following text

Some text
===!-- Comment written this way ===
And a new line after the end of the comment--

It gives me a level 1 header with = as a title (what is expected), but it also 
put a comment inside of h/h tags:

rootSome text
h level=1 i=1===commentlt;!-- Comment written this way ===
And a new line after the end of the comment--gt;/comment/h
/root

This is not a problem for web rendering since comments are simply removed, but 
if one will try to create some ObjModel from the result xml, it would be not 
exactly the result that person would expect. And there might be some other 
unexpected results. i.e. some code would expect to find = before /h tag, and 
would be surprised when it does not find it there. Etc.

This quite a minor problem, but I think it worth reporting.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Preparser: Comments after === became a part of a header in xml representation

2014-08-18 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi,

On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 14:11 +0400, Nikolay Shaplov wrote:
 When I do preparsing of the following text

[...]

 This quite a minor problem, but I think it worth reporting.

Feel free to create a minor bug report in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org
under MediaWiki  Parser.

Thanks,
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-18 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Aditya Chaturvedi 
aditya.iiita...@gmail.com wrote:

 However, to run the system in production first, we need assistance on how
 to make these ratings visible on the pages of extension.


Has it already been asked anywhere *whether* to make these ratings
available on mediawiki.org? How useful is it really to know that
Extension:ConfirmEdit scored 3 on some external website, especially
without knowing that that 3 comes from a grand total of 1 person?
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-18 Thread Isarra Yos

On 18/08/14 14:54, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote:

On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Aditya Chaturvedi 
aditya.iiita...@gmail.com wrote:


However, to run the system in production first, we need assistance on how
to make these ratings visible on the pages of extension.


Has it already been asked anywhere *whether* to make these ratings
available on mediawiki.org? How useful is it really to know that
Extension:ConfirmEdit scored 3 on some external website, especially
without knowing that that 3 comes from a grand total of 1 person?


Or without knowing what version they were running on, or what 
specifically was the issue (different issues apply to different 
projects; for instance a quirk that would be a blocker on wikinews might 
be something we'd WANT for unnews on uncyclopedia)...


The ratings also aren't necessarily for the things people might expect, 
either, especially if only a flat number is supplied: I expected 
'rating' to be about the extension's effectiveness in production, but 
only 'usability' maybe covers that, despite not really applying to all 
extensions. And documentation quality should be pretty apparent if 
you're already on the extension documentation page on mw.org. 
Installation can be a massive pain in the arse but still very much worth 
it, especially as it is a one-time thing, so the real question may be is 
it worth it.


I feel like we'd need context for the ratings to be at all useful. So 
I'd say the question should be asked - should these ratings be 
available? Going from there, that's also the discussion that would hone 
down what could make them truly valuable.


-I

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-18 Thread Chad
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Aditya Chaturvedi 
 aditya.iiita...@gmail.com wrote:

  However, to run the system in production first, we need assistance on how
  to make these ratings visible on the pages of extension.


 Has it already been asked anywhere *whether* to make these ratings
 available on mediawiki.org? How useful is it really to know that
 Extension:ConfirmEdit scored 3 on some external website, especially
 without knowing that that 3 comes from a grand total of 1 person?


Relevant: http://xkcd.com/1098/

-Chad
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-18 Thread Legoktm
On 8/18/14, 8:47 AM, Chad wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org
 wrote:

 Has it already been asked anywhere *whether* to make these ratings
 available on mediawiki.org? How useful is it really to know that
 Extension:ConfirmEdit scored 3 on some external website, especially
 without knowing that that 3 comes from a grand total of 1 person?


 Relevant: http://xkcd.com/1098/
 
 -Chad

Also: http://xkcd.com/937/

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-18 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com writes:

 On 8/18/14, 8:47 AM, Chad wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org
 Has it already been asked anywhere *whether* to make these ratings
 available on mediawiki.org?

Yes.  This is a GSoC project that was accepted.  Getting the ratings to
mw.o is the final step of that.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Adi.iiita/Gsoc2014

As XKCD makes clear, though, ratings like this have problems.  We didn't
ask Aditya to solve all those problems.

Instead, we want to start bootstrapping a way for users of MW extensions
to provide feedback.  If someone solves the problems with ratings, I'd
love to see that implemented on mw.o.

For now, though, this is a step towards improving the ecosystem for MW
users.

Mark.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] need for an app? (was: Future platforms, devices, and consumers)

2014-08-18 Thread Nuria Ruiz
Offline storage is hard in a browser, as you pointed out; that's too much
detail for me to understand quickly, and I have no comment yet. In
principle, such concern is valid.
Even the w3 held a working group for a while that was around how broken app
cache was (http://www.w3.org/community/fixing-appcache/)

It is still broken and been so for many years, well documented since 2011:
http://www.w3.org/2011/web-apps-ws/papers/Facebook.html




On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 5:33 AM, svetlana svetl...@fastmail.com.au wrote:

 Dmitry Brant wrote:
  The fact that you don't see the benefits of the native app over the
 mobile
  website is simply an indication that we still have a lot of work to do
 with
  the apps, which we are excited to do.

 Partly this is because you don't support my mobile platform.

 Dmitry Brant wrote:
  But, is it a waste of effort to bring a truly integrated, seamless
  Wikipedia experience to our users' mobile devices?  I don't think so.
  Nor
  is it a waste of effort for the WMF to be seen as a driving force in
 mobile
  design and mobile user experience.

 I was assuming that integration and being seamless are easily doable from
 a web browser.

 Offline storage is hard in a browser, as you pointed out; that's too much
 detail for me to understand quickly, and I have no comment yet. In
 principle, such concern is valid.

 Documenting extra differences and shortcomings of web browsers could be a
 nice task.

 svetlana

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-18 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@nichework.com
wrote:

 Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com writes:

  On 8/18/14, 8:47 AM, Chad wrote:
  On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) 
 bjor...@wikimedia.org
  Has it already been asked anywhere *whether* to make these ratings
  available on mediawiki.org?

 Yes.  This is a GSoC project that was accepted.  Getting the ratings to
 mw.o is the final step of that.

 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Adi.iiita/Gsoc2014


I see no discussion there.


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[Wikitech-l] broken travis-ci builds of mediawiki

2014-08-18 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
There are build errors in the mediawiki builds on travis-ci, which
have been happening for four months.

https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-core/builds

Is anyone using that to help with development.  I doubt it, given they
are broken.

Could they be disabled, as those jobs are causing other travis-ci jobs
under 'wikimedia' to be delayed.  e.g. the pywikibot-core builds,
where the developer team actively uses the travis builds.

https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/pywikibot-core/builds

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Graphs demo

2014-08-18 Thread Jon Robson
Yeh it looks like it is supported which is great, but it seems the bit
that got me confused was the section 'embedded directly'.

I had thought the whole point of a visualisation/graph/map namespace
was to separate the data and use JsonContentHandler, not to mix
content.

My main concern is the bit under embedded directly e.g. this type of thing:
graph
{
  width: 400,
...
/graph

What I worry about is if this inline graphing is available out of the
box then we are promoting this kind of editing which makes editing
harder for newcomers and I think we should be moving away from it


On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:
 Le 15/08/2014 22:17, Jon Robson a écrit :
 Rather than having a graph tag  containing data which will not make
 sense to technical users could we imagine something is there any plan
 to support something like graph title=Visualisation:Stock
 markets/graph? Separating this into another namespace also allows
 us to create useful graph editors.

 Looking at the demo wiki, it seems to use a dedicated namespace (graph)
 which saves some json.  The graph is then included as usual:

  {{graph:Stocks}}

 Seems fine to me :-]

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-18 Thread Aditya Chaturvedi
I agree to the points raised about ratings and what parameters are best
suitable for representing them. However, I believe these are evolutionary
features and can only be improved in an agile manner. The key issue I
believe is to address the cold start problem and for this I suppose that
reflecting the ratings back to mw.o will catalyses the process of data
collection in due time and make the ratings more meaningful.
Currently, a flat number 3 was reflected as rating but I hope everyone
takes it in symbolic terms i.e it can be modified to suit best needs. To
re-iterate, it means that instead of 3 we can use 3/5 which tells the total
rating is out of 5. Also we may use the information about how many people
rated the extension and display that too. So this is where I need help to
decide what will comprise as a meaningful data which can be presented on
the extension page and address the cold start of this functionality. Please
see all the knowledge generated on the extension pages of WikiApiary and
suggest what combination of parameters will be best suited to be pushed to
mediawiki. Thanks.


On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) 
bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@nichework.com
 wrote:

  Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com writes:
 
   On 8/18/14, 8:47 AM, Chad wrote:
   On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) 
  bjor...@wikimedia.org
   Has it already been asked anywhere *whether* to make these ratings
   available on mediawiki.org?
 
  Yes.  This is a GSoC project that was accepted.  Getting the ratings to
  mw.o is the final step of that.
 
  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Adi.iiita/Gsoc2014
 

 I see no discussion there.


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[Wikitech-l] Arlo Breault joins Wikimedia as Features Engineer

2014-08-18 Thread Terry Chay
Hello everyone,

It’s with great pleasure that I’m announcing that Arlo Breault joined the 
Wikimedia Foundation as a Features Engineer. Note the past tense. :-D

Before joining us, Arlo worked as an independent open-source software 
developer. He’s held various contracts at the Tor Project[1], DuckDuckGo[2], 
Storify[3], and Right  Democracy[4], amongst others, where he’s worked on 
everything from novel censorship circumvention systems to navigable 
visualizations of the web graph.

I first found out about him in April of 2012, but we only managed to find a fit 
a year ago in July of 2013 as an international contractor. His first official 
day as a member of our staff was July 7, 2014. I tell myself that announcing 
Arlo and Marc together is the reason I’ve been tardy on these announcements. 
:-D Along with Marcoil (previous e-mail), the two of them work with Subbu 
Sastry and C. Scott Ananian to form the Parsoid team, which provides the 
back-end voodoo that turns your VisualEditing into wikitext and back again.[5]

Arlo studied physics and mathematics at McGill in Montréal, and now lives in 
Victoria, BC. He has been spending a lot of his free time lately looking at 
cryptographic protocols, contributing OTR.js[6] to Cryptocat[7], a privacy 
preserving chat application. He’s otherwise typically Canadian, enjoying his 
maple syrup, hockey, and reading by the warm glow of a fire.

Please join me in a belated welcome of Arlo to the Wikimedia Foundation. :-)

Take care,
Terry

P.S. In keeping with Jared’s demand of a picture to accompany every new hire 
announcement, here is one: 
https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/123708?v=2s=400

[1] https://www.torproject.org/
[2] https://duckduckgo.com/
[3] https://storify.com/
[4] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Centre_for_Human_Rights_and_Democratic_Development
[5] 
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/03/04/parsoid-how-wikipedia-catches-up-with-the-web/
[6] https://github.com/arlolra/otr
[7] https://crypto.cat/

terry chay  최태리
Director of Features Engineering
Wikimedia Foundation
“Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum 
of all knowledge. That's our commitment.”

p: +1 (415) 839-6885 x6832
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Arlo Breault joins Wikimedia as Features Engineer

2014-08-18 Thread Pine W
Arlo,

That is a very professional picture.

I see that you live in British Columbia. May I invite you to join the
illustrious  ranks of the Cascadia Wikimedians group and sign up for our
email list? We are hoping for formal approval of our group from Affcom
shortly.

Email list
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-cascadia

Meta talk
https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cascadia_Wikimedians

Pine
On Aug 18, 2014 11:39 AM, Terry Chay tc...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 It’s with great pleasure that I’m announcing that Arlo Breault joined the
 Wikimedia Foundation as a Features Engineer. Note the past tense. :-D

 Before joining us, Arlo worked as an independent open-source software
 developer. He’s held various contracts at the Tor Project[1],
 DuckDuckGo[2], Storify[3], and Right  Democracy[4], amongst others, where
 he’s worked on everything from novel censorship circumvention systems to
 navigable visualizations of the web graph.

 I first found out about him in April of 2012, but we only managed to find
 a fit a year ago in July of 2013 as an international contractor. His first
 official day as a member of our staff was July 7, 2014. I tell myself that
 announcing Arlo and Marc together is the reason I’ve been tardy on these
 announcements. :-D Along with Marcoil (previous e-mail), the two of them
 work with Subbu Sastry and C. Scott Ananian to form the Parsoid team, which
 provides the back-end voodoo that turns your VisualEditing into wikitext
 and back again.[5]

 Arlo studied physics and mathematics at McGill in Montréal, and now lives
 in Victoria, BC. He has been spending a lot of his free time lately looking
 at cryptographic protocols, contributing OTR.js[6] to Cryptocat[7], a
 privacy preserving chat application. He’s otherwise typically Canadian,
 enjoying his maple syrup, hockey, and reading by the warm glow of a fire.

 Please join me in a belated welcome of Arlo to the Wikimedia Foundation.
 :-)

 Take care,
 Terry

 P.S. In keeping with Jared’s demand of a picture to accompany every new
 hire announcement, here is one:
 https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/123708?v=2s=400

 [1] https://www.torproject.org/
 [2] https://duckduckgo.com/
 [3] https://storify.com/
 [4]
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Centre_for_Human_Rights_and_Democratic_Development
 [5]
 https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/03/04/parsoid-how-wikipedia-catches-up-with-the-web/
 [6] https://github.com/arlolra/otr
 [7] https://crypto.cat/

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 sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment.”

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[Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Marc Ordinas i Llopis (marcoil) joins Wikimedia as Features Engineer

2014-08-18 Thread Terry Chay
Hello everyone,

It’s with great pleasure that I’m announcing that Marc Ordinas i Llopis joined 
the Wikimedia Foundation as a Features Engineer. Note the past tense. :-D

Before joining us, Marc was a programmer at Collabora[1] open source 
consultancy where he worked on a window manager for the Nokia N900 mobile phone 
and various Webkit[2] ports for Gtk+ and Qt. Before that he spent eight years 
programming for video game studies and on a distributed GUI based on CORBA.

He started to work with us a little over a year ago in July of 2013, but his 
first official day as an international contractor was December 2, 2013. (You 
know it is bad when you have to look in your mail archives to provide years 
with your dates.) Along with Arlo (a future e-mail), the two of them work with 
Subbu Sastry and C. Scott Ananian to form the Parsoid team which provides the 
back-end voodoo that turns your VisualEditing into wikitext and back again.[3]

He studied technical engineering in computer systems at the University of 
Balearic Islands. He is fluent in Catalan, English and Spanish, with a dabbling 
of German, French, Russian and Chinese. He lives in Majorca, Spain where the 
latest Parsoid team offsite just was.[4] There, he spends his free time 
reading, making (and tasting) wine and generally seemingly being the IT support 
for the island. He’s also involved in local politics and currently serving as 
town councillor. He goes by Marcoil on the Internet because he’s sick of me 
misspelling his name on contracts.[5]

Please join me in a belated welcome of Marcoil to the Wikimedia Foundation. :-)

Take care,
Terry

P.S. In keeping with Jared’s demand of a picture to accompany every new hire 
announcement, here is a photo: https://www.flickr.com/photos/tychay/14775054560/

[1] http://www.collabora.com/ http://www.collabora.com/
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit
[3] 
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/03/04/parsoid-how-wikipedia-catches-up-with-the-web/
 
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/03/04/parsoid-how-wikipedia-catches-up-with-the-web/
[4] Jealous? Like compiler design? Perhaps you should apply to Team Parsoid. :-D
[5] http://marcoil.org/ http://marcoil.org/


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of all knowledge. That's our commitment.”

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[Wikitech-l] Recruiting for Wikimedia security newsletter

2014-08-18 Thread Pine W
Hi,

In collaboration with Chris Steipp, I am considering starting a monthly
security newsletter for Wikimedia, focused on common risks and mitigation
techniques. The target audience is the broad Wikimedia community including
developers, WMF and chapter employees, and volunteers with high risk
accounts.

Example topics:
Phishing
Coding best practices
Wifi security
Securing data stored on cell phones
Check fraud
Preventing insider theft of funds in Wikimedia organizations

If you are interested in contributing to the newsletter please email me off
list.

Thanks,

Pine
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Recruiting for Wikimedia security newsletter

2014-08-18 Thread Nkansah Rexford
Nice idea, I think

rexford | google.com/+Nkansahrexford | sent from smartphone
On Aug 18, 2014 9:38 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 In collaboration with Chris Steipp, I am considering starting a monthly
 security newsletter for Wikimedia, focused on common risks and mitigation
 techniques. The target audience is the broad Wikimedia community including
 developers, WMF and chapter employees, and volunteers with high risk
 accounts.

 Example topics:
 Phishing
 Coding best practices
 Wifi security
 Securing data stored on cell phones
 Check fraud
 Preventing insider theft of funds in Wikimedia organizations

 If you are interested in contributing to the newsletter please email me off
 list.

 Thanks,

 Pine
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Future platforms, devices, and consumers

2014-08-18 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey,

Hi Rexford,

 What objectives would we achieve if we were to revamp the MediaWiki system
 from ground up? Even if we  pretend that we have infinite financial and
 human resources to do this, I am not sure what we would accomplsh, and we
 would likely introduce a lot of new reliability and security bugs.


I can't answer for Rexford, though can provide you with a reply of my own.

You are quite right that the resources needed to rewrite a software as big
and complex as MediaWiki from ground up in one go are not realistic. I
think this is simply not feasible and a bad idea to begin with. There is
plenty of good writing on the topic of migrating away from legacy systems,
often cautioning against the big rewrite.

That does not mean that moving away from the current platform is a bad
idea. Of course there needs to be good reason to do so. Is the current
platform causing problems severe enough to warrant changing direction? Look
at all the effort being put into the software surrounding Wikipedia and
associated projects. A lot of enthusiastic and smart people are spending
plenty of time on it. So how come progress has slowed down so much? How
come we cannot easy add new functionality? What exactly is causing all this
effort to be spend so inefficiently? And how much more would we be able to
achieve if those issues where not there?

One concern with rewriting or redesigning things that I've seen outlined
often is that it is easy to just end up at the same place again. If no
effort is put into identifying why the old system ended up in a bad state,
then it's naive to expect the new one will not suffer the same fate.

 and we would likely introduce a lot of new reliability and security bugs.

Is that something inherent to writing new software or migrating away from
legacy systems? Or is that simply what would happen if such a task was
attempted without altering development practices first?

Cheers

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Evil software architect at Wikimedia Germany
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[Wikitech-l] GSoC FOSS OPW wrap-up meeting on IRC tomorrow

2014-08-18 Thread Rachel Farrand
Hello!
If you are interested in following along, please join us tomorrow
(time/location below) for the following IRC meeting:
-
Google Summer of Code and FOSS Outreach Program for Women interns and
mentors are invited to this IRC meeting to showcase the work done and share
any ideas for the future. We are scheduling two hours because of the amount
of projects involved, but the length of the meeting will depend on you.

This is how the showcase will work:

* We will start from East to West, based on the location of the intern.
First stop: Taipei.
* Each intern (or mentor if the intern can't make it) will point to the
project page and a demo (if possible), and will add a short comment written
in advance. We will leave a bit of time for comments questions, and then we
will move on.

The open discussion will follow, if time permits.
---
*Time:* 3pm UTC
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=IRC+Meetingiso=20140819T15ah=2
*Location:* #wikimedia-office
*Length:* 2 hours
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Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Marc Ordinas i Llopis (marcoil) joins Wikimedia as Features Engineer

2014-08-18 Thread svetlana
добро пожаловать

svetlana

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[Wikitech-l] Fwd: mwui.wmflabs.org reactivated, showing upcoming MW UI styles ($wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere = true; )

2014-08-18 Thread Matthew Flaschen
In addition to what I said below (this was originally sent to design), 
anonymous editing is now enabled.  So feel free to test anonymously or 
with as many accounts (throw-away accounts are fine on this test wiki) 
as you'd like.


Matt Flaschen

 Original Message 
Subject: mwui.wmflabs.org reactivated, showing upcoming MW UI styles 
($wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere = true;)

Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 20:16:24 -0400
From: Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org
To: Design list des...@lists.wikimedia.org

I've updated the MW UI demo site
(http://mwui.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page) and enabled
$wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere = true; (the global used by Jon's blanket MW
UI change).

Basically, we want to test this version for a while, then make it the
only version.  So please click around on
http://mwui.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page (e.g. try editing
http://mwui.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum, among many other possibilities).

Thanks,

Matt Flaschen



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Re: [Wikitech-l] Help in modifying Template:Extension to support user ratings

2014-08-18 Thread K. Peachey
I was meaning to comment on the overall GSoC proposal before the acceptance
stage and didn't get a chance.

Personally I don't think in it's current state/design it is overly suitable
for deployment onto MediaWiki wiki as it will introduce a external factor
on the page load for each visitor, although I haven't looked at the current
privacy policy but it is generally considered a no-no for us.

Also I do have concerns about the overall usefullness of the data and how
it will correlate with the extensions, especially when it comes to matching
to individual release versions and overall participation on data submission.



 On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) 
 bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote:

  On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@nichework.com
 
  wrote:
 
   Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com writes:
  
On 8/18/14, 8:47 AM, Chad wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) 
   bjor...@wikimedia.org
Has it already been asked anywhere *whether* to make these ratings
available on mediawiki.org?
  
   Yes.  This is a GSoC project that was accepted.  Getting the ratings to
   mw.o is the final step of that.
  
   https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Adi.iiita/Gsoc2014
  
 
  I see no discussion there.
 
 
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  Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
  Software Engineer
  Wikimedia Foundation

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