[Wikitech-l] RevisionInsertComplete vs. RevisionRecordInserted

[Stas Malyshev]

Hi!

I've noticed that RevisionInsertComplete hook is now deprecated in favor
of RevisionRecordInserted. However, EventBus still uses
RevisionInsertComplete. Is this going to change soon? If so, will the
underlying event/topic change too? I couldn't find anything in
Phabricator about this - is there plan to change it or still use old
hook for now and foreseeable future?

Thanks,
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata vandalism dashboard (for Wikipedians)

[Alex Monk]

Sorry, hit the wrong button with the previous email. I got an error when I
tried this with language code 'En' (my phone wanted that) instead of 'en'.

On 29 Jan 2018 22:00, "Alex Monk"  wrote:

>
> On 29 Jan 2018 18:51, "Eran Rosenthal"  wrote:
>
>> Good idea, and thanks for sharing.
>>
>> Ideas for improvement:
>> 1. Missing reference - the list by itself is not sufficient to determine
>> whether some edit is bad or not, as there is no reference (Qid is not
>> meaningful).
>> It would be nice to have another column with "reference" value to
>> compare - either different language (en or fallback lang) or prev value
>> 2. " /* wbsetlabel-add:1|he */ " or " /* wbsetlabel-set:1|he */" should be
>> formatted to human readable format/removed/replaced with icon.
>> 3. (dreaming) How awful would it be to move it to mediawiki itself (e.g
>> implement ChangesListStringOptionsFilterGroup /
>> ChangesListStringOptionsFilter [T176515
>> ])
>> doing regex queries on non indexed summary column of recent changes?
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 6:48 PM, Dayllan Maza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > This is great. Thank you for sharing
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 7:07 AM Amir Ladsgroup 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > It's tracked in: https://github.com/Ladsgroup/
>> > Vandalism-dashboard/issues/2
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 11:26 PM Magnus Manske <
>> > > magnusman...@googlemail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Quick note: Looks great, but "Changes in descriptions" is always on,
>> > even
>> > > > after clicked off...
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 5:54 PM Amir Ladsgroup > >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hello,
>> > > > > People usually ask me how they can patrol edits that affect their
>> > > > Wikipedia
>> > > > > or their language. The proper way to do so is by using watchlist
>> and
>> > > > > recentchanges (with "Show Wikidata edits" option enabled) in
>> > Wikipedias
>> > > > but
>> > > > > sometimes it shows too many unrelated changes.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Also, it would be good to patrol edits for languages you know
>> because
>> > > the
>> > > > > descriptions are being shown and editable in the Wikipedia app
>> making
>> > > it
>> > > > > vulnerable to vandalism (so many vandalism in this area goes
>> > unnoticed
>> > > > for
>> > > > > a while and sometimes gets fixed by another reader which is
>> > > suboptimal).
>> > > > >
>> > > > > So Lucas [1] and I had a pet project to allow you see unpatrolled
>> > edits
>> > > > > related to a language in Wikidata. It has some basic integration
>> with
>> > > > ORES
>> > > > > and if you see a good edit and mark it as patrolled it goes away
>> from
>> > > > this
>> > > > > list. What I do usually is to check this page twice a day for
>> Persian
>> > > > > langauge which given the size of it, that's enough.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > It's in https://tools.wmflabs.org/wdvd/index.php the source code
>> is
>> > in
>> > > > > https://github.com/Ladsgroup/Vandalism-dashboard and you can
>> report
>> > > > > issues/bug/feature requests in
>> > > > > https://github.com/Ladsgroup/Vandalism-dashboard/issues
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Please spread the word and any feedback about this tool is very
>> > welcome
>> > > > :)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > [1]: > >
>> > > > > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Lucas_Werkmeister_(WMDE)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata vandalism dashboard (for Wikipedians)

[Alex Monk]

On 29 Jan 2018 18:51, "Eran Rosenthal"  wrote:

> Good idea, and thanks for sharing.
>
> Ideas for improvement:
> 1. Missing reference - the list by itself is not sufficient to determine
> whether some edit is bad or not, as there is no reference (Qid is not
> meaningful).
> It would be nice to have another column with "reference" value to
> compare - either different language (en or fallback lang) or prev value
> 2. " /* wbsetlabel-add:1|he */ " or " /* wbsetlabel-set:1|he */" should be
> formatted to human readable format/removed/replaced with icon.
> 3. (dreaming) How awful would it be to move it to mediawiki itself (e.g
> implement ChangesListStringOptionsFilterGroup /
> ChangesListStringOptionsFilter [T176515
> ])
> doing regex queries on non indexed summary column of recent changes?
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 6:48 PM, Dayllan Maza  wrote:
>
> > This is great. Thank you for sharing
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 7:07 AM Amir Ladsgroup 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It's tracked in: https://github.com/Ladsgroup/
> > Vandalism-dashboard/issues/2
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 11:26 PM Magnus Manske <
> > > magnusman...@googlemail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Quick note: Looks great, but "Changes in descriptions" is always on,
> > even
> > > > after clicked off...
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 5:54 PM Amir Ladsgroup 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > People usually ask me how they can patrol edits that affect their
> > > > Wikipedia
> > > > > or their language. The proper way to do so is by using watchlist
> and
> > > > > recentchanges (with "Show Wikidata edits" option enabled) in
> > Wikipedias
> > > > but
> > > > > sometimes it shows too many unrelated changes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, it would be good to patrol edits for languages you know
> because
> > > the
> > > > > descriptions are being shown and editable in the Wikipedia app
> making
> > > it
> > > > > vulnerable to vandalism (so many vandalism in this area goes
> > unnoticed
> > > > for
> > > > > a while and sometimes gets fixed by another reader which is
> > > suboptimal).
> > > > >
> > > > > So Lucas [1] and I had a pet project to allow you see unpatrolled
> > edits
> > > > > related to a language in Wikidata. It has some basic integration
> with
> > > > ORES
> > > > > and if you see a good edit and mark it as patrolled it goes away
> from
> > > > this
> > > > > list. What I do usually is to check this page twice a day for
> Persian
> > > > > langauge which given the size of it, that's enough.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's in https://tools.wmflabs.org/wdvd/index.php the source code
> is
> > in
> > > > > https://github.com/Ladsgroup/Vandalism-dashboard and you can
> report
> > > > > issues/bug/feature requests in
> > > > > https://github.com/Ladsgroup/Vandalism-dashboard/issues
> > > > >
> > > > > Please spread the word and any feedback about this tool is very
> > welcome
> > > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]: 
> > > > > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Lucas_Werkmeister_(WMDE)
> > > > >
> > > > > 
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[Wikitech-l] No more SWAT deploys this week

[Greg Grossmeier]

Hello,

Due to both the SRE (nee Technical Operations) team traveling this week
combined with the Release Engineering team at an offsite we are
cancelling the remaining SWAT deploys this week.

For the most up to date and canonical version of the deployment calendar
please see, as always:
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata vandalism dashboard (for Wikipedians)

[Eran Rosenthal]

Good idea, and thanks for sharing.

Ideas for improvement:
1. Missing reference - the list by itself is not sufficient to determine
whether some edit is bad or not, as there is no reference (Qid is not
meaningful).
It would be nice to have another column with "reference" value to
compare - either different language (en or fallback lang) or prev value
2. " /* wbsetlabel-add:1|he */ " or " /* wbsetlabel-set:1|he */" should be
formatted to human readable format/removed/replaced with icon.
3. (dreaming) How awful would it be to move it to mediawiki itself (e.g
implement ChangesListStringOptionsFilterGroup /
ChangesListStringOptionsFilter [T176515
])
doing regex queries on non indexed summary column of recent changes?

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 6:48 PM, Dayllan Maza  wrote:

> This is great. Thank you for sharing
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 7:07 AM Amir Ladsgroup 
> wrote:
>
> > It's tracked in: https://github.com/Ladsgroup/
> Vandalism-dashboard/issues/2
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 11:26 PM Magnus Manske <
> > magnusman...@googlemail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Quick note: Looks great, but "Changes in descriptions" is always on,
> even
> > > after clicked off...
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 5:54 PM Amir Ladsgroup 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > > People usually ask me how they can patrol edits that affect their
> > > Wikipedia
> > > > or their language. The proper way to do so is by using watchlist and
> > > > recentchanges (with "Show Wikidata edits" option enabled) in
> Wikipedias
> > > but
> > > > sometimes it shows too many unrelated changes.
> > > >
> > > > Also, it would be good to patrol edits for languages you know because
> > the
> > > > descriptions are being shown and editable in the Wikipedia app making
> > it
> > > > vulnerable to vandalism (so many vandalism in this area goes
> unnoticed
> > > for
> > > > a while and sometimes gets fixed by another reader which is
> > suboptimal).
> > > >
> > > > So Lucas [1] and I had a pet project to allow you see unpatrolled
> edits
> > > > related to a language in Wikidata. It has some basic integration with
> > > ORES
> > > > and if you see a good edit and mark it as patrolled it goes away from
> > > this
> > > > list. What I do usually is to check this page twice a day for Persian
> > > > langauge which given the size of it, that's enough.
> > > >
> > > > It's in https://tools.wmflabs.org/wdvd/index.php the source code is
> in
> > > > https://github.com/Ladsgroup/Vandalism-dashboard and you can report
> > > > issues/bug/feature requests in
> > > > https://github.com/Ladsgroup/Vandalism-dashboard/issues
> > > >
> > > > Please spread the word and any feedback about this tool is very
> welcome
> > > :)
> > > >
> > > > [1]: 
> > > > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Lucas_Werkmeister_(WMDE)
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Best
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata vandalism dashboard (for Wikipedians)

[Dayllan Maza]

This is great. Thank you for sharing

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 7:07 AM Amir Ladsgroup  wrote:

> It's tracked in: https://github.com/Ladsgroup/Vandalism-dashboard/issues/2
>
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 11:26 PM Magnus Manske <
> magnusman...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Quick note: Looks great, but "Changes in descriptions" is always on, even
> > after clicked off...
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 5:54 PM Amir Ladsgroup 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > People usually ask me how they can patrol edits that affect their
> > Wikipedia
> > > or their language. The proper way to do so is by using watchlist and
> > > recentchanges (with "Show Wikidata edits" option enabled) in Wikipedias
> > but
> > > sometimes it shows too many unrelated changes.
> > >
> > > Also, it would be good to patrol edits for languages you know because
> the
> > > descriptions are being shown and editable in the Wikipedia app making
> it
> > > vulnerable to vandalism (so many vandalism in this area goes unnoticed
> > for
> > > a while and sometimes gets fixed by another reader which is
> suboptimal).
> > >
> > > So Lucas [1] and I had a pet project to allow you see unpatrolled edits
> > > related to a language in Wikidata. It has some basic integration with
> > ORES
> > > and if you see a good edit and mark it as patrolled it goes away from
> > this
> > > list. What I do usually is to check this page twice a day for Persian
> > > langauge which given the size of it, that's enough.
> > >
> > > It's in https://tools.wmflabs.org/wdvd/index.php the source code is in
> > > https://github.com/Ladsgroup/Vandalism-dashboard and you can report
> > > issues/bug/feature requests in
> > > https://github.com/Ladsgroup/Vandalism-dashboard/issues
> > >
> > > Please spread the word and any feedback about this tool is very welcome
> > :)
> > >
> > > [1]: 
> > > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Lucas_Werkmeister_(WMDE)
> > >
> > > 
> > > Best
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Unknown pages in watchlist

[יגאל חיטרון]

Thank you and done and nothing there.
Igal


2018-01-29 13:41 GMT+02:00 John :

> Check the move logs
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 6:19 AM יגאל חיטרון 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello. I have a watching issue. Writing here and not in phabricator,
> > because it's absolutely non reproduceable. So if somebody is interested -
> > here are the details.
> > I found now an article in my watchlist that I never added to it. I
> checked
> > and saw more articles like this. Including the first one, 12 articles I
> > never added, never edited and never opened. All of them talk about the
> same
> > city. I never was there and never read aboit it in wiki. After some more
> > checks I saw that all of them are in the same category, about some small
> > neigbourhood in this city. I never heard its name. The category includes
> 13
> > articles. The redundant one was created a couple of weeks ago. The
> category
> > itself is not in the watchlist. And I don't thing I just don't remember,
> > because I do not work on this wiki so much, so there are 61 articles in
> my
> > watchlist there, 20% of them problematic. It's a murricle.
> > Igal (User:IKhitron)
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikidata vandalism dashboard (for Wikipedians)

[Amir Ladsgroup]

It's tracked in: https://github.com/Ladsgroup/Vandalism-dashboard/issues/2

On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 11:26 PM Magnus Manske 
wrote:

> Quick note: Looks great, but "Changes in descriptions" is always on, even
> after clicked off...
>
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 5:54 PM Amir Ladsgroup 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > People usually ask me how they can patrol edits that affect their
> Wikipedia
> > or their language. The proper way to do so is by using watchlist and
> > recentchanges (with "Show Wikidata edits" option enabled) in Wikipedias
> but
> > sometimes it shows too many unrelated changes.
> >
> > Also, it would be good to patrol edits for languages you know because the
> > descriptions are being shown and editable in the Wikipedia app making it
> > vulnerable to vandalism (so many vandalism in this area goes unnoticed
> for
> > a while and sometimes gets fixed by another reader which is suboptimal).
> >
> > So Lucas [1] and I had a pet project to allow you see unpatrolled edits
> > related to a language in Wikidata. It has some basic integration with
> ORES
> > and if you see a good edit and mark it as patrolled it goes away from
> this
> > list. What I do usually is to check this page twice a day for Persian
> > langauge which given the size of it, that's enough.
> >
> > It's in https://tools.wmflabs.org/wdvd/index.php the source code is in
> > https://github.com/Ladsgroup/Vandalism-dashboard and you can report
> > issues/bug/feature requests in
> > https://github.com/Ladsgroup/Vandalism-dashboard/issues
> >
> > Please spread the word and any feedback about this tool is very welcome
> :)
> >
> > [1]: 
> > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Lucas_Werkmeister_(WMDE)
> >
> > 
> > Best
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Unknown pages in watchlist

[John]

Check the move logs

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 6:19 AM יגאל חיטרון  wrote:

> Hello. I have a watching issue. Writing here and not in phabricator,
> because it's absolutely non reproduceable. So if somebody is interested -
> here are the details.
> I found now an article in my watchlist that I never added to it. I checked
> and saw more articles like this. Including the first one, 12 articles I
> never added, never edited and never opened. All of them talk about the same
> city. I never was there and never read aboit it in wiki. After some more
> checks I saw that all of them are in the same category, about some small
> neigbourhood in this city. I never heard its name. The category includes 13
> articles. The redundant one was created a couple of weeks ago. The category
> itself is not in the watchlist. And I don't thing I just don't remember,
> because I do not work on this wiki so much, so there are 61 articles in my
> watchlist there, 20% of them problematic. It's a murricle.
> Igal (User:IKhitron)
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[Wikitech-l] Unknown pages in watchlist

[יגאל חיטרון]

Hello. I have a watching issue. Writing here and not in phabricator,
because it's absolutely non reproduceable. So if somebody is interested -
here are the details.
I found now an article in my watchlist that I never added to it. I checked
and saw more articles like this. Including the first one, 12 articles I
never added, never edited and never opened. All of them talk about the same
city. I never was there and never read aboit it in wiki. After some more
checks I saw that all of them are in the same category, about some small
neigbourhood in this city. I never heard its name. The category includes 13
articles. The redundant one was created a couple of weeks ago. The category
itself is not in the watchlist. And I don't thing I just don't remember,
because I do not work on this wiki so much, so there are 61 articles in my
watchlist there, 20% of them problematic. It's a murricle.
Igal (User:IKhitron)
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