Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-07 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
... And, more importantly, its form doesn't say "separate the trail from
the link". Just like , it only *happened* to do it (I tried on
Wikipedia, and it doesn't do it now).

The point I'm trying to make in this thread is that  happens to do
certain things other than showing wiki syntax without parsing, and is used
for them as if it's *intended* for it, but this is a hack. If a certain
functionality is needed, such as separating the trail from the link, then
it's worth considering creating a piece of syntax for it.

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‫בתאריך יום א׳, 7 באוק׳ 2018 ב-19:08 מאת ‪bawolff‬‏ <‪bawolff...@gmail.com
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> Alas, no longer valid in XML or HTML5. (Although HTML5 will still
> parse it as an empty comment, but with a  "incorrectly-opened-comment"
> error.
>
> --
> Brian
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 6:57 AM Chad  wrote:
> >
> > Found it :)
> >
> > https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/SGML/sgml-lex/sgml-lex
> >
> > Search for "empty comment declaration" :)
> >
> > -Chad
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 5, 2018, 11:50 PM Chad  wrote:
> >
> > > I'm personally a fan of .
> > >
> > > I came across it years ago--it's a null comment. Can't find the
> reference
> > > at the moment though.
> > >
> > > -Chad
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, 2:25 PM Daniel Kinzler 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Am 04.10.2018 um 18:58 schrieb Thiemo Kreuz:
> > >> > The syntax "[[Schnee]]reichtum" is quite common in the
> > >> > German community. There are not many other ways to achieve the same:
> > >> >  or  can be used instead.[1] The later is often the
> > >> > better alternative, but an auto-replacement is not possible. For
> > >> > example, "[[Bund]]estag" must become "[[Bund]]estag".
> > >>
> > >> We could introduce new syntax for this, such as  or even
> .
> > >>
> > >> Or how about {{}} for "this is a syntactic element, but it does
> nothing"?
> > >> But if
> > >> that is mixed in with template expansion, it won't work if it expands
> to
> > >> nothing, since template expansion happens before link parsing, right?
> For
> > >> better
> > >> or worse...
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Daniel Kinzler
> > >> Principal Software Engineer, MediaWiki Platform
> > >> Wikimedia Foundation
> > >>
> > >> ___
> > >> Wikitech-l mailing list
> > >> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
> > >
> > >
> > On Oct 5, 2018 11:50 PM, "Chad"  wrote:
> >
> > I'm personally a fan of .
> >
> > I came across it years ago--it's a null comment. Can't find the reference
> > at the moment though.
> >
> > -Chad
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, 2:25 PM Daniel Kinzler 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Am 04.10.2018 um 18:58 schrieb Thiemo Kreuz:
> > > > The syntax "[[Schnee]]reichtum" is quite common in the
> > > > German community. There are not many other ways to achieve the same:
> > > >  or  can be used instead.[1] The later is often the
> > > > better alternative, but an auto-replacement is not possible. For
> > > > example, "[[Bund]]estag" must become "[[Bund]]estag".
> > >
> > > We could introduce new syntax for this, such as  or even
> .
> > >
> > > Or how about {{}} for "this is a syntactic element, but it does
> nothing"?
> > > But if
> > > that is mixed in with template expansion, it won't work if it expands
> to
> > > nothing, since template expansion happens before link parsing, right?
> For
> > > better
> > > or worse...
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daniel Kinzler
> > > Principal Software Engineer, MediaWiki Platform
> > > Wikimedia Foundation
> > >
> > > ___
> > > Wikitech-l mailing list
> > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
> > ___
> > Wikitech-l mailing list
> > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] non-obvious uses of in your language

2018-10-07 Thread bawolff
Alas, no longer valid in XML or HTML5. (Although HTML5 will still
parse it as an empty comment, but with a  "incorrectly-opened-comment"
error.

--
Brian


On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 6:57 AM Chad  wrote:
>
> Found it :)
>
> https://www.w3.org/MarkUp/SGML/sgml-lex/sgml-lex
>
> Search for "empty comment declaration" :)
>
> -Chad
>
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018, 11:50 PM Chad  wrote:
>
> > I'm personally a fan of .
> >
> > I came across it years ago--it's a null comment. Can't find the reference
> > at the moment though.
> >
> > -Chad
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, 2:25 PM Daniel Kinzler 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Am 04.10.2018 um 18:58 schrieb Thiemo Kreuz:
> >> > The syntax "[[Schnee]]reichtum" is quite common in the
> >> > German community. There are not many other ways to achieve the same:
> >> >  or  can be used instead.[1] The later is often the
> >> > better alternative, but an auto-replacement is not possible. For
> >> > example, "[[Bund]]estag" must become "[[Bund]]estag".
> >>
> >> We could introduce new syntax for this, such as  or even .
> >>
> >> Or how about {{}} for "this is a syntactic element, but it does nothing"?
> >> But if
> >> that is mixed in with template expansion, it won't work if it expands to
> >> nothing, since template expansion happens before link parsing, right? For
> >> better
> >> or worse...
> >>
> >> --
> >> Daniel Kinzler
> >> Principal Software Engineer, MediaWiki Platform
> >> Wikimedia Foundation
> >>
> >> ___
> >> Wikitech-l mailing list
> >> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
> >
> >
> On Oct 5, 2018 11:50 PM, "Chad"  wrote:
>
> I'm personally a fan of .
>
> I came across it years ago--it's a null comment. Can't find the reference
> at the moment though.
>
> -Chad
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, 2:25 PM Daniel Kinzler  wrote:
>
> > Am 04.10.2018 um 18:58 schrieb Thiemo Kreuz:
> > > The syntax "[[Schnee]]reichtum" is quite common in the
> > > German community. There are not many other ways to achieve the same:
> > >  or  can be used instead.[1] The later is often the
> > > better alternative, but an auto-replacement is not possible. For
> > > example, "[[Bund]]estag" must become "[[Bund]]estag".
> >
> > We could introduce new syntax for this, such as  or even .
> >
> > Or how about {{}} for "this is a syntactic element, but it does nothing"?
> > But if
> > that is mixed in with template expansion, it won't work if it expands to
> > nothing, since template expansion happens before link parsing, right? For
> > better
> > or worse...
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Kinzler
> > Principal Software Engineer, MediaWiki Platform
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> >
> > ___
> > Wikitech-l mailing list
> > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
> ___
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