Re: [Wikitech-l] Equivalence for using Template:Cite_Web with templates surrounding Wikicode

[Bartosz Dziewoński]

{{Cite web}} and similar templates can also be used outside of a  
tag, e.g. on a page like this: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Review_aggregator#Bibliography (not the 
greatest example, but the best I could find quickly).


If you want it inside of a footnote, it's a bit complicated in visual 
mode, since the footnotes can be reused multiple times. The way it works 
is that there is a separate place in the document where the contents of 
every reference are placed (the "internal list"), and the location of 
the  contains only a small node that links to the internal list.


Manually constructing the data so that both these things refer to each 
other would be a pain, but there is a helper class that makes it more 
convenient, ve.dm.MWReferenceModel.


You'd use it like this:

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P10018

I adapted that example from the code in 
ve.ui.MWCitationDialog.prototype.getActionProcess, which is how VE 
itself inserts new references.


Hope that helps (and doesn't look too awful).


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Café online meeting for January 2020. Note the schedule change.

[Pine W]

After re-reading what I wrote, I think that I came across as being
irritated, and I'm sorry about that. I was rushing to get that email out,
and I should have slowed down. Let me try this again.

With the hope that some folks on Wikitech-l may be interested in this
invitation to the Wikimedia Café, I am sharing it here. There may be some
feeling on Wikitech-l that these invitations are not sufficiently
technical, and if I get the sense that there is a consensus on Wiitech-l
that these invitations are distractions unless there are technical subjects
on the agenda then I will respect that decision and refrain from sharing
Wikimedia Café invitations to Wikitech-l except when there are technical
subjects on the agenda. However, I hope that there will be general interest
in the Cafe..Anyone is welcome to add a topic to the agenda.

Apologizes again for being hasty and for sounding irritated in my previous
email.

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )


On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 11:56 PM Pine W  wrote:

> Hello Wikitech-l colleagues,
>
> I don't know how much interest there is on Wikitech-l regarding meeting
> invitations for the Wikimedia Café, but I'm cross-posting this invitation
> for the to the list. If I hear a bunch of complaints then I will stop the
> cross-posting of Café invitations when there are not clearly tech-oriented
> items on the agenda for the Café. However, I would hope that some
> subscribers to Wikitech-l are interested in the Café.
>
> A reminder: you are welcome to add items to the Café's agenda.
>
> Best wishes for the new year,
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Pine W 
> Date: Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 11:39 PM
> Subject: Wikimedia Café online meeting for January 2020. Note the schedule
> change.
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List 
>
>
> Hello colleagues,
>
> The Wikimedia Café meetings have generally been well received. We had
> approximately seven people in the December meeting. In an attempt to make
> the meetings be accessible to more people, in January 2020 the Café is
> tentatively scheduled for a Saturday, and the Café will be earlier in the
> day. The meeting will be on 25 January 2020 at the following time: 11:30 AM
> EST, 4:30 PM UTC, and 10 PM ITC.
>
> During the most recent Café we had an extensive discussion about
> documentation for Wikitext and templates. We ran out of time to discuss
> NavWiki . For the January
> meeting the only non-introductory agenda item so far is NavWiki. You are
> welcome to add more items to the agenda
> 
> .
>
> As usual, the meeting style for the Café will emphasize discussion rather
> than presentation. People are welcome to participate as listeners only if
> they prefer.
>
> Please see the page on Meta
>  for more
> information about the Café. Please watch the page for any updates,
> particularly to the schedule or the agenda. Signing up for the meeting is
> optional, but is helpful to the organizers so that we can estimate how many
> people will attend. Signing up for the meeting also informs us who we
> should notify individually if there are significant changes, such as
> changes to the schedule.
>
> If there are any problems with connecting to the meeting or if you have
> any questions or comments then please write on the Meta talk page.
>
> Best wishes for the new year,
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
>
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[Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2019-12

[communitymetrics]

Hi Community Metrics team,

This is your automatic monthly Phabricator statistics mail.

Accounts created in (2019-12): 377
Active Maniphest users (any activity) in (2019-12): 982
Task authors in (2019-12): 503
Users who have closed tasks in (2019-12): 289

Projects which had at least one task moved from one column to another on
their workboard in (2019-12): 270

Tasks created in (2019-12): 2139
Tasks closed in (2019-12): 2027
Open and stalled tasks in total: 43773

Median age in days of open tasks by priority:

Unbreak now: 8
Needs Triage: 534
High: 976
Normal: 1166
Low: 1649
Lowest: 1661

(How long tasks have been open, not how long they have had that priority)

Active Differential users (any activity) in (2019-12): 6

To see the names of the most active task authors:
* Go to https://wikimedia.biterg.io/
* Choose "Phabricator > Overview" from the top bar
* Adjust the time frame in the upper right corner to your needs
* See the author names in the "Submitters" panel

TODO: Numbers which refer to closed tasks might not be correct, as
described in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T1003 .

Yours sincerely,
Fab Rick Aytor

(via community_metrics.sh on phab1003 at Wed Jan  1 00:00:15 UTC 2020)

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[Wikitech-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Café online meeting for January 2020. Note the schedule change.

[Pine W]

Hello Wikitech-l colleagues,

I don't know how much interest there is on Wikitech-l regarding meeting
invitations for the Wikimedia Café, but I'm cross-posting this invitation
for the to the list. If I hear a bunch of complaints then I will stop the
cross-posting of Café invitations when there are not clearly tech-oriented
items on the agenda for the Café. However, I would hope that some
subscribers to Wikitech-l are interested in the Café.

A reminder: you are welcome to add items to the Café's agenda.

Best wishes for the new year,
Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )


-- Forwarded message -
From: Pine W 
Date: Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 11:39 PM
Subject: Wikimedia Café online meeting for January 2020. Note the schedule
change.
To: Wikimedia Mailing List 


Hello colleagues,

The Wikimedia Café meetings have generally been well received. We had
approximately seven people in the December meeting. In an attempt to make
the meetings be accessible to more people, in January 2020 the Café is
tentatively scheduled for a Saturday, and the Café will be earlier in the
day. The meeting will be on 25 January 2020 at the following time: 11:30 AM
EST, 4:30 PM UTC, and 10 PM ITC.

During the most recent Café we had an extensive discussion about
documentation for Wikitext and templates. We ran out of time to discuss
NavWiki . For the January
meeting the only non-introductory agenda item so far is NavWiki. You are
welcome to add more items to the agenda

.

As usual, the meeting style for the Café will emphasize discussion rather
than presentation. People are welcome to participate as listeners only if
they prefer.

Please see the page on Meta
 for more information
about the Café. Please watch the page for any updates, particularly to the
schedule or the agenda. Signing up for the meeting is optional, but is
helpful to the organizers so that we can estimate how many people will
attend. Signing up for the meeting also informs us who we should notify
individually if there are significant changes, such as changes to the
schedule.

If there are any problems with connecting to the meeting or if you have any
questions or comments then please write on the Meta talk page.

Best wishes for the new year,
Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Re: [Wikitech-l] New year / Nova godina

[John Shepherd]

Wishing the same to you! :)

On 2019-12-31 at 3:31 PM, Zoran Dori wrote:

> Happy new year to everyone!! / Srećna Nova godina svima!!
> 
> Best wishes! / Sve najbolje!
> 
> Zoran.
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[Wikitech-l] New year / Nova godina

[Zoran Dori]

Happy new year to everyone!! / Srećna Nova godina svima!!

Best wishes! / Sve najbolje!

Zoran.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Equivalence for using Template:Cite_Web with templates surrounding Wikicode

[Eran Rosenthal]

Hi Eugene,
Assuming it is local installation or wiki other than English wikipedia
where citations aren't yet configurated you can follow

E.g copy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Citoid-template-type-map.json
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Visualeditor-cite-tool-definition.json

If you are doing it in one of Wikimedia projects and not local
installation, it will be great to update :
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127354


On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 4:13 PM Jaime Crespo  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 12:42 PM Egbe Eugene 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am implementing template
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_web
> > in
> > VE and after using the template code[1], I get results shown below
> >
>
> Sorry, I may not be understanding what you are trying to accomplish, I am
> guessing reimplementing Cite_web functionality on your own local mediawiki
> installation?
> I don't know much about visual editor or references-related code, someone
> else may be able to help you here better, but I know that is implemented on
> enwiki:
>
> https://phab.wmfusercontent.org/file/data/wz3njgh6k6iwrugvap6f/PHID-FILE-n6el7aiazixa4mwb2rq2/Screenshot_20191231_150008.png
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:JCrespo_(WMF)/sandbox=revision=933365112=926096219=visual
>
> So my only suggestion is to look at how enwiki has it configured and try to
> adapt it to your needs.
>
> Another suggestion is to use Phaste:
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/paste/edit/form/14/ for code snippets,
> as
> it will prevent vandals from editing it + allow comments.
>
> Sorry I cannot be of more help,
> --
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Equivalence for using Template:Cite_Web with templates surrounding Wikicode

[Jaime Crespo]

Hi,

On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 12:42 PM Egbe Eugene  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I am implementing template https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_web
> in
> VE and after using the template code[1], I get results shown below
>

Sorry, I may not be understanding what you are trying to accomplish, I am
guessing reimplementing Cite_web functionality on your own local mediawiki
installation?
I don't know much about visual editor or references-related code, someone
else may be able to help you here better, but I know that is implemented on
enwiki:
https://phab.wmfusercontent.org/file/data/wz3njgh6k6iwrugvap6f/PHID-FILE-n6el7aiazixa4mwb2rq2/Screenshot_20191231_150008.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:JCrespo_(WMF)/sandbox=revision=933365112=926096219=visual

So my only suggestion is to look at how enwiki has it configured and try to
adapt it to your needs.

Another suggestion is to use Phaste:
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/paste/edit/form/14/ for code snippets, as
it will prevent vandals from editing it + allow comments.

Sorry I cannot be of more help,
-- 
Jaime Crespo

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[Wikitech-l] Equivalence for using Template:Cite_Web with templates surrounding Wikicode

[Egbe Eugene]

Hi All,

I am implementing template https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_web in
VE and after using the template code[1], I get results shown below

{{Cite web|url=
https://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_replace.asp|title=W3Schools|last=W3Schools|first=W3Schools
}}

what I desire to get is

{{Cite web|url=
https://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_replace.asp|title=W3Schools|last=W3Schools|first=W3Schools}
}

So I guess I am missing something. Please I need help with this.

Thanks
Eugene
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[1] https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Template_cite_with_VE
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