Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Meet

[Tito Dutta]

Hello,
That's super great news. I definitely want to try it. Thanks a lot for
working on this.

Thanks
Tito Dutta
Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to remind
me over email or phone call.


On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 at 01:57, Amir Sarabadani  wrote:

> Hey,
> "Wikimedia Meet" [0] (https://meet.wmcloud.org), is a project in Wikimedia
> CloudVPS for Wikimedians to meet virtually instead of using commercial
> services like Zoom which might have security and privacy implications
> [1][2]. Currently it's a jitsi (jitsi.org) installation.
>
> If you want to just use/test it, let me know and I create you a user and
> password. You can share the username and password with anyone you want to
> meet but please do not post it publicly. In your email you can also give me
> your desired user and password. **Do not reuse any password**. You can also
> contact any of the ticketmasters instead of me:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet#List_of_ticketmasters
>
> In order to make this project more robust, I'm looking for Ticketmasters
> too, Ticketmasters create accounts for others (It doesn't require any
> technical knowledge, you fill a form in web for others)
>
> If you want to help maintaining it (which would be greatly appreciated) let
> me know and I give you the needed access. I put the technical documentation
> in mediawiki.org [3]. There are several bits you can help with, like
> puppetizing it, scalability, observability, improving authentication,
> trying to see if BBB can be used as well, and so much more. You can find
> the tickets in the phabricator board and assign a ticket to yourself if you
> feel like helping out.
>
> [0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
> [1] https://blogs.harvard.edu/doc/2020/03/27/zoom/
> [2]
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/02/zoom-technology-security-coronavirus-video-conferencing
> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
>
> Hope that would be useful for our users :)
> Best
> --
> Amir (he/him)
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Meet

[Amir Sarabadani]

I proofread the email several times and still managed to miss an important
point:

This installation is not large and currently, it wouldn't be able to handle
100 people. It worked fine with 10 people in a meeting but not much more
than that. So please be mindful in using this resource.

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 10:26 PM Amir Sarabadani 
wrote:

> Hey,
> "Wikimedia Meet" [0] (https://meet.wmcloud.org), is a project in
> Wikimedia CloudVPS for Wikimedians to meet virtually instead of using
> commercial services like Zoom which might have security and privacy
> implications [1][2]. Currently it's a jitsi (jitsi.org) installation.
>
> If you want to just use/test it, let me know and I create you a user and
> password. You can share the username and password with anyone you want to
> meet but please do not post it publicly. In your email you can also give me
> your desired user and password. **Do not reuse any password**. You can also
> contact any of the ticketmasters instead of me:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet#List_of_ticketmasters
>
> In order to make this project more robust, I'm looking for Ticketmasters
> too, Ticketmasters create accounts for others (It doesn't require any
> technical knowledge, you fill a form in web for others)
>
> If you want to help maintaining it (which would be greatly appreciated)
> let me know and I give you the needed access. I put the technical
> documentation in mediawiki.org [3]. There are several bits you can help
> with, like puppetizing it, scalability, observability, improving
> authentication, trying to see if BBB can be used as well, and so much more.
> You can find the tickets in the phabricator board and assign a ticket to
> yourself if you feel like helping out.
>
> [0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
> [1] https://blogs.harvard.edu/doc/2020/03/27/zoom/
> [2]
> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/02/zoom-technology-security-coronavirus-video-conferencing
> [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
>
> Hope that would be useful for our users :)
> Best
> --
> Amir (he/him)
>
>

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[Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Meet

[Amir Sarabadani]

Hey,
"Wikimedia Meet" [0] (https://meet.wmcloud.org), is a project in Wikimedia
CloudVPS for Wikimedians to meet virtually instead of using commercial
services like Zoom which might have security and privacy implications
[1][2]. Currently it's a jitsi (jitsi.org) installation.

If you want to just use/test it, let me know and I create you a user and
password. You can share the username and password with anyone you want to
meet but please do not post it publicly. In your email you can also give me
your desired user and password. **Do not reuse any password**. You can also
contact any of the ticketmasters instead of me:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet#List_of_ticketmasters

In order to make this project more robust, I'm looking for Ticketmasters
too, Ticketmasters create accounts for others (It doesn't require any
technical knowledge, you fill a form in web for others)

If you want to help maintaining it (which would be greatly appreciated) let
me know and I give you the needed access. I put the technical documentation
in mediawiki.org [3]. There are several bits you can help with, like
puppetizing it, scalability, observability, improving authentication,
trying to see if BBB can be used as well, and so much more. You can find
the tickets in the phabricator board and assign a ticket to yourself if you
feel like helping out.

[0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet
[1] https://blogs.harvard.edu/doc/2020/03/27/zoom/
[2]
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/02/zoom-technology-security-coronavirus-video-conferencing
[3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Meet

Hope that would be useful for our users :)
Best
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[Wikitech-l] Render with a slow process

[John Erling Blad]

Slow process, fast rendering

Imagine someone edits a page, and that editing hits a very slow
tag-function of some kind. You want to respond fast with something
readable, some kind of temporary page until the slow process has finished.
Do you chose to reuse what you had from the last revision, if it the
content of the function hasn't changed, or do you respond with a note that
you are still processing? The temporary page could then update missing
content through an API.

I assume that a plain rerender of the page will occur after the actual
content is updated and available, i.e. a rerender will only happen some
time after the edit and the slow process would then be done. A last step of
the process could then be to purge the temporary page.

This work almost everywhere, but not for collections, they don't know about
temporary pages. Is there some mechanism implemented that does this or
something similar? It feels like something that should have a general
solution.

There are at least two different use cases; one where some existing
information gets augmented with external data (without really changing the
content), and one where some external data (could be content) gets added to
existing content. An example of the first could be verification of
references, wile the later could be natural language generation.

/jeblad
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