A sad side effect of the upgrade will probably be that listadmin[1] will break. Does anyone know an alternative?
[1] https://sourceforge.net/projects/listadmin/ Am So., 9. Aug. 2020 um 23:13 Uhr schrieb David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com>: > In fairness, pipermail archives were always a bit shaky - on the > occasions when an email's had to be removed from the archive > previously, it's messed up the URLs of all the other emails in that > month's archive. > > But let's say it would be *nice* not to mess up the public archive > URLs if feasible :-) > > > - d. > > > On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 at 21:19, Amir Sarabadani <ladsgr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > hmm, Links of archived discussions in private mailing lists are not as > > important as the ones in public lists, we definitely should migrate > public > > mailing lists first and after that we can migrate any private mailing > list > > that is okay with their links being broken (and then we remove those old > > archives to make it unaccessible to public). It probably means we need to > > keep mailman2 around for a while. > > > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 9:38 PM AntiCompositeNumber < > > anticompositenum...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I would agree that it would be a good solution, except for the next > > > bullet in the same document: > > > "The above mechanism won’t work for private archives since the > > > archives are gated with password and without a Mailman 2 list, there > > > is no password. You can however import them to Mailman 3." > > > > > > Since keeping private lists private is also a requirement, that pretty > > > much means rolling our own auth system on top of Mailman 3 or creating > > > a bunch of HTTP redirect rules. > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 3:31 PM Amir Sarabadani <ladsgr...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > According to the upgrade guide ( > > > > > https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/migration.html#other-considerations > > > ): > > > > "If you need your URLs for Mailman 2 archives to work, you can keep > the > > > > HTML files generated for the archives around and your web server > > > > configuration for the archives intact (possibly with a notice to > viewers > > > > that it is now a read-only archive, see this list > > > > <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/security-sig/> for example)." > > > > > > > > Here's an example: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/security-sig/ > > > (with a > > > > notice). > > > > > > > > It means, the old archives will stay the same (and > accessible/searchable > > > > with the new interface as well) but new mails won't get added there > to > > > the > > > > old archives. I think that's a good compromise. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 9:19 PM David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > yes - those links are thrown around as if they're archival. How > will > > > > > the change affect links to past messages? Will someone need to > > > > > construct a redirect farm? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - d. > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 at 19:54, AntiCompositeNumber > > > > > <anticompositenum...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Glad to hear this is moving forward! > > > > > > > > > > > > Keeping archive links working, for both public and private lists, > > > > > > should be a requirement. There's a lot of institutional knowledge > > > > > > stored in the mailing list archives, and it's very important to > keep > > > > > > that around. > > > > > > > > > > > > ACN > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 1:05 PM Zoran Dori < > zorandori4...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > this looks great. 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