Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Since this thread is slowly moving over to a debate as to whether it constitutes bikeshedding or not (and people can't seem to agree on that either), I'm going to unsubscribe to this mailing list by the end of today (in 15 hours or so) as I get way too much email already. I have made my concerns clear. Thank you for verifying that your intentions are to use free software. If anyone were to CC me in any important emails (decisions regarding licence headers), I would be grateful. If someone has suggestions for how to make GNU LibreJs[0] accept Wikipedia, please email me about this. The only solution I can think of is using a whitelist -- but this may be dangerous, as developers can just go oh I don't bother with licences, you can just whitelist my page. [0] https://www.gnu.org/software/librejs/ - -- Alexander alexan...@plaimi.net http://plaimi.net/~alexander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlE4R78ACgkQRtClrXBQc7VbwAD/eK5zRRExpYlNx93GmgQmCwwE DQ5WRp6/ErrbB6XYwygA/3hsN4RFY80gl95TOLU6GzQ9iUKkKkAaxd/qop81IA6+ =Pr4p -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 GNU LibreJS blocks several Javascript sources around Wikipedia. I was sent to this list by Kirk Billund. My issue as well as Kirk's replies follows. I hope you are okay to read it in this form. 03/05/2013 11:16 - Alexander Berntsen wrote: GNU LibreJs[0] reports that several of the Javascript sources embedded by different parts of Wikipedia are proprietary[1]. Is this a conscious anti-social choice[2], or have you merely not set up your source files to properly show their licence[3]? If the latter is the case, please remedy this. If the former is the case... please remedy this. It is extremely important.[4] In any event I hope to get a reply, as the distinction is important to me. [0] https://www.gnu.org/software/librejs/ [1] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html#ProprietarySoftware [2] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html [3] https://www.gnu.org/software/librejs/free-your-javascript.html [4] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-free.html On 05/03/13 11:38, Wikipedia information team wrote: All of the MediaWiki[1] code base that Wikipedia is licensed under the GPL[2], including the JavaScript. Also included in that is the freely-licensed (MIT) jQuery[3] library. However some code is actually written by the invidual users, like English Wikipedia's custom javascript[4], which is licensed as CC-BY-SA-3.0 since all content pages are automatically licensed that way[5]. Additionally, our JavaScript is minified[6] so adding comments is not possible. If you have further concerns, you can either respond to me, email the general Wikimedia technical list[7] or a general Mediawiki help list[8]. [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/License [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JQuery [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights [6] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader [7] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l [8] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l 03/05/2013 11:16 - Alexander Berntsen wrote: Is it not possible to insert the licence as part of your build process? What I do with compiled or minified Javascript is to build everything, and then insert the licence to all files using BASH. On 05/03/13 12:41, Wikipedia information team wrote: Unfortunately I don't fully understand how the minification process works, so it would probably be better if you asked your question on our technical mailing list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l and someone there would be able to give you a more specific answer. - -- Alexander alexan...@plaimi.net http://plaimi.net/~alexander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlE13WcACgkQRtClrXBQc7VRwAEAhJLHhlpssJIze/B9IJ1un9kT /ze8DysWeQHBpoGeKCQBALbfVL+yLy74dAEmncPrT3FAPB4WPjUDfOg8A7Vo/pXm =peks -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/03/13 13:18, Max Semenik wrote: If you mean that we have to insert that huge chunk of comments from [1] into every page, the answer is no because we'll have to include several licenses here, making it ridiculously long. Please see the JavaScript Web Labels section of the article[0]. Is this a possibility? All JS run on Wikimedia sites is free, and if some software believes otherwise, that software needs to be fixed. Do you have ideas on how to fix it? [0] https://www.gnu.org/software/librejs/free-your-javascript.html - -- Alexander alexan...@plaimi.net http://plaimi.net/~alexander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlE17h0ACgkQRtClrXBQc7XAaAEAqklgvLuiZMts0H2/T0oloJiL Cpfn3KXFdvh04ihp+Y0A/jzm281pemFHmwRaPNLutEVYoeUhvoRvo3rIGE02nX4E =dHAX -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Seemingly proprietary Javascript
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/03/13 14:38, David Gerard wrote: Yeah, calling people antisocial when you ask them for something is definitely the approach to take. Let us know how it works out for GNU LibreJS. I did not call anyone antisocial. Furthermore I am not affiliated with GNU LibreJS. - -- Alexander alexan...@plaimi.net http://plaimi.net/~alexander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iF0EAREIAAYFAlE19jwACgkQRtClrXBQc7VeUQEAsA4negyyHjMk6954Q4I6SJSp gKleJiqwcT+ER24DTtoA+K1F7CGSmfVanYT0l0AYiQthigpCdewH7m1xPJGdrDE= =WSU4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
