[Wikitech-l] Request to review the Wikimaps Atlas Grant
Dear Wikihackers, User:Yug[1] from the Graphic Labs and I, User:Planemad[2] a cartographer from the Indian community, have put together a comprehensive IEG proposal to improve all the base maps used on WIkimedia projects with updated cartographic conventions and accuracy using the latest tools and data. The output will be a large set of editable vector maps, research documentation and a comprehensive map generation workflow and infrastructure that anyone can reuse. The total grant request is for an amount of USD 10500, which will allow both of us to work on this project full time for a period of 3 months. The grant also includes a budget to hire external consultants where required to accomplish the stated goals. You can view the proposal and provide your valuable feedback/endorsement here before Oct 22: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Wikimaps_Atlas PS: This will be the first step of the much larger Wikimaps[3] project that aims to be the map engine that brings together Wikidata, Commons and Openstreetmap. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Yug [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimaps -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] 8 simple ways for improving Gerrit
Here is a quick suggestion. These should be more neutral and easy on the eyes if you keep seeing a lot of gerrit. I wish there was a simple way to change the values in the css and upload a preview, but i did a view source on gerrit and I received quite a fright. Leaving it to someone else to show us how this scheme looks: 1) backgroundColor -- no change 2) topMenuColor -- #DBDCFF 3) textColor -- no change (unless its possible to have different classes for different texts) 4) trimColor -- optional #A4A5BF 5) selectionColor -- #FFE4CE, alternate #F1F1FF -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] IE7 tax
As someone who writes css, I am particularly frightened by IE7. And I can imagine there are a lot of frontend developers and staff out there who spend significant time on fixing things for this niche audience, when they could be working on more constructive things. I came across this service today which has started to levy a a surcharge on IE7 users [1] and it got me thinking. 6% of wikimedia project page views are from IE6/7 - because of the following: - IE6 ships default with XP - Legal users with SP2+ can upgrade to IE8 - If you have 90s era hardware, no SP for you. Can only be solved by buying some new hardware (or switching to linux) - IT admins who dont know much about IT and have kept the workforce hostage through their ignorance. Can be solved if the workforce and boss demands it. - People new to computers and are not really sure how to use the mouse. They need to be told IE7 is bad and how to upgrade - Those without an internet connection. Can be solved by not using the internet. - IE7/mspaint hipsters. No solution. As one of the most visited places on the internet, it is probably in the best interests of the planet that we decide its no longer worthwhile to support this fallen angel. Maybe it time to start showing a notice to IE7 users that their days are numbered and wikipedia may no longer work as expected unless they move forward in their lives. It has to happen some day, so why not now and save the internet a lot of pain and suffering? [1] http://www.kogan.com/au/blog/new-internet-explorer-7-tax/ -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] IE7 tax
Absolutely not. We have debated the show notice to broken browsers thing multiple times--and the answer is always it's annoying as hell when sites do it and it's not our place to do so. The stance on supporting crappy old browsers has largely over time turned into--continue supporting all browsers with at least 1% of our readers (roughly,I don't believe that number's ever been set in stone). Once they are less than 1%, continue supporting unless it's a burden to do so and/or makes support for newer browsers impossible. And lastly, never purposefully break a browser if you can help it. Chad, in a couple of years when this number does touch 1%, would there be a notification for users of such browsers beforehand? I expect there might be some sort of alert, so that the unsuspecting users are aware that the problem might be the browser and not the website. So you would still have something annoying, but seen by 1% rather than the 6% today. My main point of contention is that the number of people using IE7 without an alternative option is minuscule and with some awareness, the current 6% number would touch 1% sooner than later, which is a good thing for both developers as well as users. On the other hand, the developers can continue to spend effort at backward compatibility for browsers that do not work as they should. And there will continue to be users of such browsers, because everything seems to work fine for them. Is it worth sustaining this cycle longer than it needs to be? PS: I will admit, I am a newbie here and probably missed the most exciting IE7 threads :) I'd appreciate if you could link me to the archives off-list so I can read up everyone's arguments. My selfish interest in this is less time spent to check compatibility and more to try out new stuff. -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual watchlist
From: Aaron Pramana aa...@sociotopia.com To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual watchlist Message-ID: loom.20120510t020226-...@post.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks again for your feedback - my GSoC project page is available here and I'd appreciate any feedback you have: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Blackjack48/GSOC_proposal_for_watchlist_impro vements I will incorporate your suggestions into my project within the next few days. Thanks Amir. Aaron, that is awesome, I'd be happy to help you out with the visual design and css. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Visual watchlist
I thought of studying my watchlist for a moment to understand why it was the way it was, and I noticed the following: 1. My watchlist begins half the page down, because of the watchlist options box, which btw I have never used or peered into. 2. The first link in each item is that of the current article. I have never clicked this because I might as well go through the changes by using (diff) 3. I have never clicked (hist) on the watchlist, I would first see the (diff) and only then browse the history 4. 0 is colored grey making it disappear from the list. But that does not mean the article never changed, it could be +400 -400 words but the net is 0. The edit calculation can be highly misleading. I would rather want to know how many characters were added and how many deletions. Articles which have only additions are low on my priority list to patrol. 5. Before contacting any user or checking his (contribs), I would always see what his edit was. I open the (diff) and (contribs) in new tabs. This could have become integrated because its part of the same task. Same goes for talk and the user page links littered all over my watchlist 6. Knowing whether a user/ip has a talk page or not is important for me to identify a newbie or vandal 7. Reading each edit summary is really slow. Identifying where it begins on a line is tough of all the information that precedes it. 8. I can jump to the specific section directly by clicking the tiny → but not the section name itself. I have never used this link either as i would rather see the (diff) 9. The (diff) gives me the diff with the entire article and image loaded below. In most cases, all the info I need while patrolling is just in the diff. I only need the article if i want to check if tables/images are broken. With that in mind I made this, which would solve most of my issues: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mw-ux-visual_watchlist.png Let me know if it would work for you as well? I hope to put some more thought on it and improving the idea. -- Arun Ganesh User:planemad ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] Introduction - Arun
Wow, Thanks Steph, Maggie, Subhashish, Alollita, Joslyn, Mani, Victor, Barry, Ayush and Rachel! And I thought nobody reads these mails :) On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Rachel Farrand rfarr...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Yay Arun! It was great to meet you in Pune and I am glad that you have finally officially joined up! On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Ayush Khanna akha...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Welcome! Also, the MTC project sounds very interesting. As some who was heavily reliant on public transport back in Mumbai, I can imagine how helpful that would be. Ayush Khanna Data Analyst, Global Development Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 x6805 On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Barry Newstead (WMF) bnewst...@wikimedia.org wrote: Welcome Arun. It was a nice surprise to meet you in person at CIS in Bangalore on Sunday. Great to have you onboard. Best, Barry -- Barry Newstead Chief Global Development Officer Wikimedia Foundation On Thursday, May 3, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Victor Grigas wrote: ARUN!!! I'm happy you are on board! You are perfect for our team :) On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Mani Pande mpa...@wikimedia.org wrote: Welcome aboard.!! On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:12 AM, asha...@wikimedia.org asha...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi Arun, A very warm welcome to you on the I18n/L10N engineering team. We are excited about the Universal Language Selector UI/UX work that you and Pau are helping us with. Happy to see you onboard! Alolita __ Alolita Sharma Wikimedia Foundation - Reply message - From: Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org To: Cc: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org, wmf...@lists.wikimedia.org, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com Subject: [Wmfall] Introduction - Arun Date: Thu, May 3, 2012 6:55 am Congratulations Arun! Happy that I met you a month back, now the L10n have more people from Indic communities and it makes me happier again ;-) On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Maggie Dennis mden...@wikimedia.org wrote: Welcome, Arun! Somehow I feel sure that you are in for an interesting ride. :D Maggie On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I wanted to introduce myself to the community and the WMF team, I'm Arun Ganesh (user:planemad)[1a] from Bangalore, India and have joined as contractor for the foundation's L10n team[1b] as an Interaction designer along with Pau to improve the user experience of language tools and features. I have been a longtime contributer to both commons[2] and the openstreetmap[3] project and got involved with foundation work during the Mumbai and Pune hackathons recently[4][5][6] where I proposed some of the first ideas for the Universal Language Selector widget with Brandon, with which we want to make language selection for anyone easy peasy. Apart from that, I love cartography and maps [7], which would explain my map contributions and the occasional headline for wikipedia [8], use only public transport[9] and traveling with my pocket camera[10]. Its feels great to have this opportunity to work more seriously on a project which has been an important part of my life. I'm new here, I wont claim to know much, but I hope to make a difference in whichever way possible. I also look forward to interacting more closely and learning from the rest of the designers - Brandon, Heather and Pau to do the wonderful things that designers like to do .So keep the usability bugs coming :) -Arun [1a] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad [1b] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Localization_team [2] http://tools.wikimedia.de/~daniel/WikiSense/Gallery.php?wiki=commons.wikimedia.orgimg_user_text=Planemad [3] http://yosmhm.neis-one.org/?zoom=4lat=21.96627lon=81.68268layers=B0Tu=PlaneMad [4] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector#Arun_Ganesh.27s_Original_design [5] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mobile_language_selector.pdf [6] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:L10n-ux-Universal_Language_Selector-Wireframes1.pdf [7] http://bit.ly/timesofindia-osm [8] http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/jul/30/information-beautiful-india-cameron [9] http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-tamilnadu/article182223.ece [10] http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1663025,00.html ___ Wmfall mailing list wmf...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wmfall -- Maggie Dennis Community Liaison WikimediaFoundation.org ___ Wmfall mailing list wmf...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wmfall -- *Subha* *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality
[Wikitech-l] Introduction - Arun
Hi everyone, I wanted to introduce myself to the community and the WMF team, I'm Arun Ganesh (user:planemad)[1a] from Bangalore, India and have joined as contractor for the foundation's L10n team[1b] as an Interaction designer along with Pau to improve the user experience of language tools and features. I have been a longtime contributer to both commons[2] and the openstreetmap[3] project and got involved with foundation work during the Mumbai and Pune hackathons recently[4][5][6] where I proposed some of the first ideas for the Universal Language Selector widget with Brandon, with which we want to make language selection for anyone easy peasy. Apart from that, I love cartography and maps [7], which would explain my map contributions and the occasional headline for wikipedia [8], use only public transport[9] and traveling with my pocket camera[10]. Its feels great to have this opportunity to work more seriously on a project which has been an important part of my life. I'm new here, I wont claim to know much, but I hope to make a difference in whichever way possible. I also look forward to interacting more closely and learning from the rest of the designers - Brandon, Heather and Pau to do the wonderful things that designers like to do .So keep the usability bugs coming :) -Arun [1a] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad [1b] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Localization_team [2] http://tools.wikimedia.de/~daniel/WikiSense/Gallery.php?wiki=commons.wikimedia.orgimg_user_text=Planemad [3] http://yosmhm.neis-one.org/?zoom=4lat=21.96627lon=81.68268layers=B0Tu=PlaneMad [4] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector#Arun_Ganesh.27s_Original_design [5] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mobile_language_selector.pdf [6] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:L10n-ux-Universal_Language_Selector-Wireframes1.pdf [7] http://bit.ly/timesofindia-osm [8] http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/jul/30/information-beautiful-india-cameron [9] http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-tamilnadu/article182223.ece [10] http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1663025,00.html ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] [ux]Language selection on mobile
I have documented the proposal for the language selector on mobile that was worked on during the Pune hackathon. The current method of selecting from an unordered list of 250+ languages is not useful or helpful. This may not be the best solution but will definitely help for a vast majority of cases. Do give feedback on the talk page: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector_Mobile -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
