Re: [Wikitech-l] My Phabricator account has been disabled

2018-08-15 Thread Bence Damokos
Pedants?
Prescriptivists? Etc... https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/grammar_Nazi


On Wed, 15 Aug 2018, 18:10 Petr Bena,  wrote:

> Out of curiousity, how would you say "grammar nazi" or "language nazi"
> with absence of word "nazi" so that it still has same effect and
> doesn't sound dull?
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: MediaWiki Group San Francisco

2013-01-14 Thread Bence Damokos
Hi all,

I am happy to let you know that this group has now been recognized by the
Affiliations Committee as a user group.

Best regards,
Bence

(Chair, Affiliations Committee)


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hi, following the process for requesting the creation of a MediaWiki
 group, here is a proposal for

 MediaWiki Group San Francisco
 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**Groups/Proposals/San_Franciscohttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals/San_Francisco

 Your endorsements, improvements and feedback are welcome at the wiki page.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal: MediaWiki Group Marketing

2013-01-14 Thread Bence Damokos
Hi all,

I am happy to let you know that this group has been recognized as a user
group by the Affiliations Committee under the name MediaWiki Group
Promotion.

Congratulations!

Best regards,
Bence

(Chair, Affiliations Committee)


On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hi, following the process for requesting the creation of a MediaWiki
 group, here is a proposal for

 MediaWiki Group Marketing
 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**Groups/Proposals/Marketinghttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals/Marketing

 Your endorsements, improvements and feedback are welcome at the wiki
 page. Thank you!

 PS: see also 
 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**Groups/Proposalshttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups/Proposals

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Bence Damokos
2011/10/8 Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com:
 2011/10/7 Guillaume Paumier gpaum...@wikimedia.org

 Hi,

 2011/10/7 Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com:
  I think rather than have two identical versions in the Market, which
 would
  no doubt confuse a great many people [...]

 I'm not sure about this confusion thing. It's pretty common to have
 two identical versions of the same app, with one called Wikipedia
 (donation version) for example.

 --
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 Technical Communications Manager — Wikimedia Foundation
 http://donate.wikimedia.org


 I've not once seen two identical apps by the same company, but one for pay
 arbitrarily. There are premium versions with additional features, but
 that's not what we're talking about here.

One example that comes to mind is OsmAnd and OsmAnd+, although
nowadays, the donation version does have a couple of extra features
(but one can download the nightlies for free even of the +
version).[1]
I believe, there are a couple of others if you search for donation
in the name of the apps[2] – the paid-for versions might sport extra
features, but I don't think that is expected by the users.

Best regards,
Bence

[1] https://market.android.com/details?id=net.osmandfeature=search_result
https://market.android.com/details?id=net.osmand.plusfeature=search_result
http://code.google.com/p/osmand/
[2] https://market.android.com/search?q=donateso=1c=apps

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[no subject]

2011-02-28 Thread Bence Damokos
Don�t be frigid, my sweet!.
http://naaldendraadborduuratelier.nl/links.php?omaSID=404

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Re: [Wikitech-l] What % of WMF is en:wp?

2011-01-13 Thread Bence Damokos
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:02 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/what_will_wikipedia_look_like_in_another_10_years.php

 The most important thing, Wales told us on a press call today, is
 the increased diversity in languages. According to Wales, around 30%
 of Wikipedia articles had been in English and already that number has
 dropped to 20%. We're going to see very very large projects in
 languages where we've never seen such things before, he explained.

 - I'd thought en:wp was still about 30% of everything - ~1/3 the
 edits, ~1/3 the articles, ~1/3 the page hits, etc.

 What are the various numbers? Is there anywhere to look them up, or
 something to look them up from which they can be derived?

 The article one should be easy: 15 million articles in total, 3 million of
that in English -- ~20%. (The 15 million is off the top of my head, but
should be right.)
For edits, I guess you can only use the cumulative totals, that are easily
available, for English it is 437,897,137, the total is 1 186 000 000 --
~36% (See Special:Statistics, and Emijrp's counter)
If I read http://stats.wikimedia.org/reportcard right, the pageviews are 8
billion on the English, 14 billion total -- ~57%

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Mediawiki-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

2010-10-03 Thread Bence Damokos
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote:

 2010/10/3 Lewis Cawte lewisca...@googlemail.com:
 
 
   Original Message 
  Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia
  Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 16:47:41 +0200
  From: Cetateanu Moldovanu cetatean...@gmail.com
  Reply-To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
  mediawik...@lists.wikimedia.org
  To: foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org, mediawik...@lists.wikimedia.org,
  Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org
 
  Hello everyone, I'd like to remind you that existence of the mo.
 wikipedia
  is extremely insulting for us from Moldova.
  The one with the power, please take action and delete it.
 
 I don't understand why this would be insulting, but whatever... These
 people should file a bug in Bugzilla per the normal site request
 procedure.


I think there is already a bug at
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23217; this issue has deeper
history even just here on wikitech-l than a mere missing bug that
contributes to it not having been done in a long time.

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[Wikitech-l] Unified login on some of the newer WMF sites (usability, outreach, strategy)

2010-06-07 Thread Bence Damokos
Hi,

It might just be my browser's strange cookie handling, but it seems to me
that a number of WMF programme wikis don't log me in automatically,
nowadays.

Is it possible to enable automatic login on some of the special project
wikis that have been set up lately? (E.g., strategy wiki and the others that
are under the single user account system but where login is not automatic.)

Thanks,
Bence
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Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

2010-03-30 Thread Bence Damokos
Thanks Naoko, Roan, Nimish, Howie we'll look into the comments, maybe we can
solve some of the common problems on our end (e.g., some incompatible
gadgets).

Best,
Bence
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Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

2010-03-28 Thread Bence Damokos
There is also a spreadsheet at
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aikdcg5HdSKbdDVMM2l2SGM2dUtBU25MLUtTMFEwMFEhl=hu

I wonder if the user comments and survey results for the Hungarian Wikipedia
are available anywhere? Hungarian is not included in the nice tables I found
on usability wiki, yet the retention rate is just below 60%.

Best regards,
Bence Damokos

On 28 March 2010 00:23, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 I would look at the statistics published here:

 http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Beta_Feedback_Survey

 Cheers,

 Ariel

 Στις 28-03-2010, ημέρα Κυρ, και ώρα 02:08 +0300, ο/η Amir E. Aharoni
 έγραψε:
  I join Akos - are complete statistics about Beta usage in all projects
  published anywhere? Until now i only saw occasional numbers in occasional
  blog posts.
 
  On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:01, Glanthor glant...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi!
  
   Just for curiosity, can we know the beta retention rate for huwiki?
  
   Thanks,
   Akos
  
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Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

2010-03-28 Thread Bence Damokos
Hi Naoko,
Thank you, I think the interest is there. I have been looking at some of the
raw data from the end of October but a more human readable format would
really help to get the picture instead of some individual comments (e.g.
missing toolbar buttons, not working gadgets/WikiEd, can't find the watch
button).

(Note that a portion of the comments are indeed in English and it would be
really nice if you made the original Hungarian comments available as well
alongside any machine translation.)

Best regards,
Bence

On 28 March 2010 19:14, Naoko Komura nkom...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Bence Damokos wrote:
  There is also a spreadsheet at
 
 https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aikdcg5HdSKbdDVMM2l2SGM2dUtBU25MLUtTMFEwMFEhl=hu
 
  I wonder if the user comments and survey results for the Hungarian
 Wikipedia
  are available anywhere? Hungarian is not included in the nice tables I
 found
  on usability wiki, yet the retention rate is just below 60%.
 
  Best regards,
  Bence Damokos
 
 Hi, Bence.

 We can make the user comments from the Hungarain Wikipedia available
 along with other languages here, if there is an interest in reviewing
 the comments in Hungarian.

 http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Beta_Feedback_Survey/User_Comments

 We used the Google Translation to translate the comments for the ten
 languages prioritized by the size of traffic and the frequency of the
 beta usage.

 Best,

 - Naoko


  On 28 March 2010 00:23, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 
 
  I would look at the statistics published here:
 
  http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Beta_Feedback_Survey
 
  Cheers,
 
  Ariel
 
  Στις 28-03-2010, ημέρα Κυρ, και ώρα 02:08 +0300, ο/η Amir E. Aharoni
  έγραψε:
 
  I join Akos - are complete statistics about Beta usage in all projects
  published anywhere? Until now i only saw occasional numbers in
 occasional
  blog posts.
 
  On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:01, Glanthor glant...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  Hi!
 
  Just for curiosity, can we know the beta retention rate for huwiki?
 
  Thanks,
  Akos
 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] ? user status history

2010-03-09 Thread Bence Damokos
You might also get a history of user rights through MediaWiki API. For a
documentation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php .

For a list of stewards at a given time you would have to query Meta-Wiki:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=querylist=logeventsletype=gblrightslelimit=5000(although
it might just be easier to look at the human readable lists at:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards)

For the sysops and other rights you would have to query and filter the user
rights logs of the English Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=querylist=logeventsletype=rightslelimit=5000

Best regards,
Bence Damokos

On 9 March 2010 11:01, Liangent liang...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you want a history, maybe you can try:

 http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20100116/enwiki-20100116-pages-logging.xml.gz
 and

 http://download.wikimedia.org/metawiki/20100306/metawiki-20100306-pages-logging.xml.gz

 On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Liangent liang...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20100116/enwiki-20100116-user_groups.sql.gz
  But the latest dump seems broken and I don't know why.
 
  On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 5:49 AM, Farkas, Illes f...@elte.hu wrote:
  Dear All,
 
  Many thanks for all your work with Wikipedia, we use it daily for
 various
  tasks and in our research on Wikipedia.
  (we = a subset of a research group of the Hungarian Academy of
 Sciences)
 
  I just managed to wget the history
  dump enwiki-20100130-pages-meta-history.xml.bz2 a week ago, and I would
 like
  to combine this with status information about users. Do you happen to
 know
  if the status (admin, steward, bot, etc.) of all users has been logged
 for
  enwiki? In what way would this be available for download and
  for non-profit basic research?
 
  Thanks,
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Disambiguation while editing

2009-10-01 Thread Bence Damokos
2009/10/1 Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se


 In the edit box, when I type [[John Doe]], I want some chance to
 verify that I'm linking to the right article, whether it is a
 disambiguation page, or by seeing the first sentence from that
 article.  I know I can preview my edit and click that link to
 see the page (or ctrl-click to make it appear in a new tab), but
 that method just seems sooo 2002.

 Is there some tool, button or gadget that does this trick? Perhaps
 some greasemonkey script?

 What it would do: From where the cursor stands in the edit box,
 search backwards for a [[ and then forwards to the following |
 or ]] which ever comes first (this covers the case that the
 cursor is inside the link brackets). Look up that article, show
 the first paragraph or 150 characters in a pop-up. If I click a
 link in the pop-up (a top link, or a disambig page), replace the
 link in the edit box so it points to that article.


The Navigation popups[1] has partially a functionality that does these: if
you select a link in the edit box it will display the first part of the
article in a popup; after saving if you hover over a disambig or redirect
link, you can choose to fix it with one click. I don't think it is possible
with it to do this fixing right from the edit box.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation_popups

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Usability initiative (HotCat replacement/improvements etc.)

2009-09-16 Thread Bence Damokos
2009/9/16 Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org

 With that said, there is *one* localisable component of HotCat (the
 edit summary) that is not localised.

Although HotCat is not readily localisable and there are some limitations,
it can be done with not too much one-time effort by editing the source (e.g.
when importing it to a new wiki, as has been done e.g. on huwiki [1]).

Just my 2 cents,

Bence Damokos

 [1] http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-hotcat.js
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Downloadable client fonts to aid language script support?

2009-05-12 Thread Bence Damokos
I don't know about Safari, but Firefox 3.5 first renders the text and then
downloads the fonts and rerenders, if I read this correctly:
When rendering a page using downloaded fonts, Firefox first renders using
available fonts, then updates the display as downloadable fonts are
retrieved.  This allows the content to render quickly and refresh to match
the intended look over time.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/CSS/@font-face

Best regards,
Bence Damokos

2009/5/12 Daniel Kinzler dan...@brightbyte.de

 Brion Vibber schrieb:
  El 5/11/09 5:04 PM, Ariel T. Glenn escribió:
  Στις 11-05-2009, ημέρα Δευ, και ώρα 16:15 -0700, ο/η Brion Vibber
  Since download time is a concern, we'd generally be looking for smaller
  font sets, such as one that covers specifically the language of an
  individual wiki, rather than high-coverage fonts like that or Code
 2000.
 
  (eg a Tamil font for ta.wikipedia.org, a Canadian Aboriginal Syllabary
  font for iu.wikipedia.org, etc)
 
  -- brion
  Except for the Wiktionaries, given that they will include lemmas from
  (eventually) all languages.  For an indication of the size of the
  problem even now, folks might look at the entry for
  http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dictionary ...
 
  H, well forcing a large automated font download on every reader's
  first visit probably isn't ideal. :) Short of crafting embedded type
  subsets for each page using just the required characters I'm not sure
  there's a good way to treat that case other than offering extra fonts
  for download.
 
  -- brion

 How about a small button somewhere? download fonts now!. Could be hidden
 if no
 special chars are visible on the page.

 -- daniel

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[Wikitech-l] Collection extension

2009-04-10 Thread Bence Damokos
Hi,
Is there a planned deployment date for the Collection (PediaPress) extension
on Wikimedia wikis that currently don't have them? The blog post about it
[1] mentioned March if everything went well.

Best regards,
Bence


[1]
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2009/02/20/wiki-to-print-feature-activated-in-six-more-wikipedia-languages/
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Drafts extension in testing

2009-01-31 Thread Bence Damokos
Hi,There seems to be an issue with the extension: It seems when I saved a
draft after editing a section, the draft was considered a draft of the
corresponding section number (it was mentioned as Article#Section name in
the list of drafts). If the given section was removed, clicking on this
saved draft  I received the error that section number 6 doesn't exist, and
thus it could not restore the draft.
Changing the page, to again contain at least 6 sections, restoring the draft
was possible, at the cost of removing the new section that has replaced it.

I believe that this is not really user friendly, even if this is intended
behaviour. (You click on a named section and receive a raw number (of the
section) in the error message; without any help message or the possibility
to restore the text of your draft is someone changes the page in the mean
time in an unexpected way).

Best regards,
Bence Damokos

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:

 Alex wrote:
  A possible option would be to have a checkbox (probably on
  Special:Drafts itself, to avoid cluttering the edit page and to avoid
  accidental clicks) to mark drafts as public. This would be especially
  useful when combined with bug 17067, the ability to create drafts of
  protected pages, a user could make a draft, mark it as public, then link
  to it for an admin to add to the page.

 I worry it goes beyond what Drafts attempted to do. So now you start
 having queues of Drafts, someone seeing the public draft shouldn't
 delete others drafts when saving, but perhaps the original draft should
 be marked as 'Foo did an edit from this'. Should the history mark the
 draft author somewhere?

 Welcome to the Wikimedia developer life, Trevor.

 :)


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Should references/ be transparently appended when missing?

2009-01-08 Thread Bence Damokos
I would support this, I think it's better to have non-MOS compliant articles
with footnote marks that actually lead to the footnotes then faulty
articles. Experienced users, and indeed bots, could than see to
MOS-compliance.
Later, a possibly an enhanced version of this feature could work like the
pywikpedia bot for the same task:having a list of sections where the
references tag could be added, and if there is one found, than the tag is
placed inside it, if not, the references are placed in a new section
entitled References [or whatever is the first on the list
of prioritized names]. (It could be further enhanced by defining what
sections should always be after the references [e.g. External links, See
also] and then the auto-added section could be placed before them.)

Best regards,
Bence Damokos

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Aryeh Gregor
simetrical+wikil...@gmail.comsimetrical%2bwikil...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
  This has probably been raised before (is there a bug for it?), but it
  appears to me that it would be significantly more user-friendly to
  append a references/ section at the bottom of the text that is being
  parsed when it is missing.
 
  This would
  * make it easier for new users to discover referencing functionality
  (oldbies could still properly reformat the tag);
  * solve the references missing in section preview problem.
 
  Is there any obvious reason not to do this?

 The only reason that occurs to me is that it will make references /
 less discoverable.  On the other hand, people would likely figure it
 out if they'll figure out ref, and if not, the worst that happens is
 that references are way at the bottom.

 I don't see any reason not to do this.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Code update status?

2008-12-17 Thread Bence Damokos
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org wrote:

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 Bence Damokos wrote:
  An other issue on the Hungarian Wikipedia is that if the old namespace
 name
  is used than the system doesn't recognise it as an imagelink and puts the
  image in the category of unused images (apparently the links are
 recognised
  correctly if the new, Fájl, namespace name is used).

 Sounds like it might have been the same problem, probably in a page
 which was cached while it was broken.

 I don't see anything wrong at the moment; please show us a specific page
 where you see a problem and point out the particular bit that's showing
 incorrectly and we can take a look.

 - -- brion

I intended to include a good example in my first letter, but it took a while
to find *one, *as there are two related problems.

So the main problem is with the unused pages special page:
http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speci%C3%A1lis:Nem_haszn%C3%A1lt_k%C3%A9pek;
last updated ths morning at 06:10 (Central European Time I guess);

The image http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A1jl:Dalarna_tartomany.png is
marked as an unused image although it is indeed used, as is recognised by
the image description page (it has surely been used even before this
morning).

The image:
http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A1jl:J%C3%A4mtland_tartomany.png also
appears on this list, and the image description page shows no usage but the
image is in fact used in the following article :
http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A4mtland_tartom%C3%A1ny

Best regards,
Bence Damokos

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Non-latin characters broken in donation comments

2008-12-03 Thread Bence Damokos
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Roan Kattouw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bence Damokos schreef:
  Thank you for considering Hungarian. You could detect Hungarians by
 simply
  looking for donations in Hungarian Forints (HUF).
 
 Note that not all people who live in Hungary have Hungarian names, and
 not all Hungarians live in Hungary.

As there are no such data released (you can't filter donations by currency,
or even better currency+location) so I'm just guessing that those donating
in forints are mostly (~100%) Hungarians, while there is no easy way to find
the Hungarians among those not donating in forints.
I didn't want to elaborate on this in my previous mail, but as long as the
surname - first name order is not considered wrong, strange or out of place
in the context of English, and possibly other languages, than using this
order would be a win - win (it would be still acceptable on the
English/other interfaces, and on the Hungarian interface it would be
correct).
However, most Hungarians themselves use the Western order to name themselves
in English (and I guess in most foreign languages and contexts) so the
Western order would be correct on every interface language (except possibly
in those countries that use the non-Western order) except Hungarian (but I
dare say that people don't/wouldn't mind it, as they understand that the
context is mostly English [website of an American foundation, even the
currencies look 'foreign']). In conclusion, I would let the Hungarians'
name's rest for this year :).

Unfortunately we get the name already divided up from PayPal and are
 stuck either guessing or making an unattractive 'Surname, Given' display
 which looks bad for everyone. :(

You have a box for comments, that is independent from the PayPal people.
Maybe a solution would be to have 3 options instead of two at the privacy
checkbox: Display my name [default], Anonymous donation, Display a custom
name [this could work possibly for donating in someone other's name,  if
that's not a privacy concern].
--
Bence Damokos (Damokos Bence in Hungary)



 Roan Kattouw (Catrope)

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[Wikitech-l] FlaggedRevs statistics?

2008-12-01 Thread Bence Damokos
There are nice statistics at:
http://toolserver.org/~aka/cgi-bin/reviewcnt.cgi?lang=englishaction=overview,http://toolserver.org/~aka/cgi-bin/reviewcnt.cgi?lang=englishaction=overviewIs
it possible to have similar for the other projects, as well, that have the
flaggedrevs extension enabled?

Best regards,
Bence Damokos
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