Re: [Wikitech-l] Git on Windows
I am a strong believer in Git. I use it on my local system and it could be very good for offline developers, myself included. I hope that we will soon change over to a Git based system and this will hopefully make it much easier for people to make changes to the MW source and therefore bring us more excellent developers who would not normally be able to get their hands on the source code. I hope that you all follow my views and that Git support will rise in the coming timescale! TIA - Joseph Roberts On 30 March 2011 13:57, Marcin Cieslak sa...@saper.info wrote: Also, since the bash shell is there, I think we can legitimately use some custom scripts to help with dealing with piles of repos at once. I'd probably pick python, ;) though theoretically you could write bash scripts and use them on Windows with the Git Extensions setup. Many people belive [1] it helps to have a set of scripts to properly implement the workflow of their project. Given how git is constructed (it is indeed a bunch of scripts in different programming languages), this might seem natural in this environment. Frankly, I am not sure I grasped porcelain (the user friendly frontend) commands enough to tackle the plumbing (the internals). Aside of people learning how to use the VCS properly (I feel I'm re-learning git everytime I use it but that's my limitation) you need to make sure everyone's on the same page and has the same set of scripts (Python you say) installed. I think this can be really difficult. //Marcin [1] http://jeetworks.com/node/58 [2] http://whygitisbetterthanx.com/#easy-to-learn ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Where exactly are the video and audio players at?
I'll be honest, I was thinking of this being part of wikicore; not just another extension. I think media support in core would be a good idea. TIA ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Where exactly are the video and audio players at?
Hey all, I've been scanning the source and I can't find where the players are kept. Can anyone add any insight on this? Is it done as a hook or direct code? TIA - Joseph Roberts ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Where exactly are the video and audio players at?
Thanks, would it be preferable to add HTML5 to that or make another extension purely for using video/audio? On 24 March 2011 11:16, Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Joseph Roberts roberts.jos...@ntlworld.com wrote: Hey all, I've been scanning the source and I can't find where the players are kept. Can anyone add any insight on this? Is it done as a hook or direct code? Extension:OggHandler. The video player is Cortado, which is bundled with OggHandler iirc ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Where exactly are the video and audio players at?
Actually, looking through OggHandler, I do think that developing a seperate entity may work well. I'm not quite sure what is wanted by the general public and would like to do what is wanted by the majority, not just wat would be easiest or even the best. What would be the best way to implement a HTML5 player in MediaWiki? TIA - Joseph Roberts ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Where exactly are the video and audio players at?
On 24 March 2011 12:18, Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Joseph Roberts roberts.jos...@ntlworld.com wrote: Thanks, would it be preferable to add HTML5 to that or make another extension purely for using video/audio? OggHandler already implements video. It tries to select an appropriate player (video, Cortado or VLC) depending on the user's browser. Ah, cool. If no one minds, shouldn't [[mw:HTML5]] be editted to reflect what h in the mainstream? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Developing with no possiblilty of using SVN?
I have been wondering, I am unable to access SVN at all. What would be the best way for me to get the code and submit patches? Also, I am assuming that access to the repo would be completely useless to me; would there be no reason for me to be granted it therefore or would it still have its uses? Thanks in advance, Joseph Roberts ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Developing with no possiblilty of using SVN?
My development computer doesn't have an internet connection, it's not possible for me to work around that. On 22 March 2011 11:29, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 22/03/11 22:25, Joseph Roberts wrote: I have been wondering, I am unable to access SVN at all. What would be the best way for me to get the code and submit patches? I think we should probably start with you telling us why you can't access Subversion, and us trying to think of ways to fix it so that you can access it. -- Tim Starling ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Developing with no possiblilty of using SVN?
Adding to that, the only computer I have that can access the internet I have no control over. I basically copy of IE and that i it. TIA - Joseph Roberts On 22 March 2011 11:31, Joseph Roberts roberts.jos...@ntlworld.com wrote: My development computer doesn't have an internet connection, it's not possible for me to work around that. On 22 March 2011 11:29, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 22/03/11 22:25, Joseph Roberts wrote: I have been wondering, I am unable to access SVN at all. What would be the best way for me to get the code and submit patches? I think we should probably start with you telling us why you can't access Subversion, and us trying to think of ways to fix it so that you can access it. -- Tim Starling ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Developing with no possiblilty of using SVN?
I was not aware of the nightly dumps. Thanks much! What does it mean by phase3, out of interest? For non bugged patches, should I send them here or submit a bug to Bugzilla for the sake of completeness? TIA - Joseph Roberts ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Developing with no possiblilty of using SVN?
On 22 March 2011 12:30, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Joseph Roberts roberts.jos...@ntlworld.com wrote: I was not aware of the nightly dumps. Thanks much! What does it mean by phase3, out of interest? It was the third phase of the Wikipedia software, just never been renamed :) Heh, fair enough. For non bugged patches, should I send them here or submit a bug to Bugzilla for the sake of completeness? Open a bug, don't send patches to the list. Ok, that seems easy enough! -Chad ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l Thanks all, I'm hoping I can offer many things to the projects. Another thing, is the latest version of XAMPP for Windows sufficient for developing on? TIA - Joseph Roberts ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] On HTML5
Hello! What is the current concensus on HTML5? Are we going to fully support it and use as many features as we can or are we going to keep just using javascript alterntives? I would assume that we would continue to use javascript in the case that the client does not support HTML5, though that may mean we have to write things twice. Also, if we are indeed going to use HTML5, are we going to use XHTML5? I would like to work on integrating MediaWiki with HTML5 if at all possible, I am just unsure on what parts we wish to use the new standard. TIA - Joseph Roberts ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
