Re: [Wikitech-l] Train

2019-07-18 Thread RhinosF1 Wikipedia
Hi greg,

I did know about the versions tool and checked both to work it out.

I actually was chatting with someone on discord and worked out that it
saying 'all wikis' is from the commit that pushed it which sent 'all wikis'
to .14 even though it only affected group2 as 0 and 1 were already on .14
so just confused me a bit.

Thanks,
RhinosF1

On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 at 22:38, Greg Grossmeier  wrote:

> Hi RhinosF1,
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 09:21:05PM +0100, RhinosF1 Wikipedia wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Am I mistaken that based on
> > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T220739 the train should be fully
> rolled
> > back?
>
> You are probably reading the commit message of: Revert "all wikis to
> 1.34.0-wmf.14", correct?
>
> What that is saying, if you look at the actual diff, is that we reverted
> the last group of wikis to go to wmf.14 ("group2"). Group2 is basically
> ~"the wikipedias". You can see more about it, the groupings, etc here:
> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/One_week
>
> For the avoidance of doubt: wmf.14 is on group0 and group1, but not
> group2, due to some blockers. See Lars' email about that (subject:
> "1.34.0-wmf.14 status update").
>
> > https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=wikiversions.json
> seems
> > to show otherwise.
>
> A handy tool (thanks Bryan!) to more easily see where we are with the
> weekly train is: https://tools.wmflabs.org/versions/
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Greg
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[Wikitech-l] Train

2019-07-18 Thread RhinosF1 Wikipedia
Hi,
Am I mistaken that based on
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T220739 the train should be fully rolled
back?

https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=wikiversions.json seems
to show otherwise.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] 今週あなたを幸せにするものは何ですか? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 16 June 2019)

2019-06-20 Thread RhinosF1 Wikipedia
I should probably sign up for WikiMedia-l Then.

I quite like these emails.

Thanks,
Pine

On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 09:01, Pine W  wrote:

> Brian,
>
> Thanks for the civil comments.
>
> I think that language diversity valuable, and there is no requirement to
> post in English to this list.
>
> Although I appreciate the idea, I am unwilling to create a more narrowly
> focused version of these threads for Wikitech-l. Someone else might be
> willing to do that.
>
> The 2 !votes against and 0 !votes in favor of continuing to cross post
> these threads to Wikitech-l in their current form likely mean that I will
> post these threads only to Wikimedia-l in the future. Although I am mildly
> disappointed, I am OK with that.
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] 1.34.0-wmf.6 status and cawikinews outage

2019-05-22 Thread RhinosF1 Wikipedia
Got back on IRC and apergos showed me
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/One_week which is probably
the most simple.

Thanks all!
And good luck with fixing everything and the remainder of the train.

RhinosF1

On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 18:36, Bryan Davis  wrote:

> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 10:35 AM Andre Klapper 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 2019-05-22 at 17:29 +0100, RhinosF1 Wikipedia wrote:
> > > what's on Group 1
> >
> > See the dropdown on https://tools.wmflabs.org/versions/
>
> The TL;DR answer for what is in each group is basically:
> * Group 0 == mediawiki.org, "testing" wikis, and "closed" wikis
> * Group 1 == wikis that are not wikipedias or in group 0
> * Group 2 == wikipedias
>
> There are some more subtle distinctions, but that's the general setup
> of the groups.
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] 1.34.0-wmf.6 status and cawikinews outage

2019-05-22 Thread RhinosF1 Wikipedia
Looks like IRCCloud is having issues for me, would have asked in -tech but
what's on Group 1

On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 17:14, Antoine Musso  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> When promoting group1 to MediaWiki 1.34.0-wmf.6, cawikinews has been
> unreachable for roughly half an hour.
>
> The reason is that very early in the process of loading the wiki, a PHP
> fatal error occurred.  I thus roll backed cawikinews to 1.34.0-wmf.5
> which fixed it:
>   https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T224116
>
> Then eventually other wikis have been found to be missing localisation
> strings indicating FlaggedRevs has other issues:
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T224124
>
>
> I am thus rolling back group1 to 1.34.0-wmf.5 until FlaggedRevs is fixed.
>
>
> The root cause is the conversion of MediaWiki extension FlaggedRevs to
> the extension registry system. Apparently some settings are loaded later
> than they used to and cause a Fatal when trying to interact with an
> unset variable.
>
> The task is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T224116  If you are
> familiar with operations/mediawiki-config load order and extension
> registry loading, your help will be more than appreciated.
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving the mediawiki.org frontpage: It's available!

2019-04-13 Thread RhinosF1 Wikipedia
Looks so much cleaner and modern, well done!

On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 at 14:21, Andre Klapper  wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org has a new frontpage!
>
> Thank you to everyone who provided great feedback and comments on
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:MediaWiki/Homepage_improvements_2018
> and
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:MediaWiki/Homepage_improvements_2018/Proposal
> in the last weeks! Several improvements have been implemented before going
> live.
>
> For a list of potential future work on problems with related pages, see
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki/Homepage_improvements_2018#Potential_follow-up_work
>
> Enjoy!
> andre
>
> (This email is a follow-up to the previous three announcements:
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2018-September/090886.html
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2018-December/091213.html
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2019-March/091814.html )
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Re: [Wikitech-l] s3 primary db master failover on Thursday 10th April 05:00AM UTC

2019-04-05 Thread RhinosF1 Wikipedia
Thanks for the information,
I've seen you've added user notice to the Phab task but as far as I'm aware
that needs to be added asap so it can be translated so I've added it with
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tech/News/2019/15=18991805=18990102

On Fri, 5 Apr 2019 at 07:23, Manuel Arostegui 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Due to hardware malfunction on the current s3 database primary master
> (T219115) we need to failover it to a different host.
>
> We are going to do this on Thursday 10th at 05:00 AM UTC, and we have
> requested a 30 minutes window (T220080) as we have to go read only for all
> the wikis living on s3 (P7994).
>
> Impact: Writes will be blocked, reads will remain unaffected.
> Time: 05:00AM UTC - 05:30 AM UTC (we do not expect to use the full 30
> minutes window).
>
> Communication will happen at #wikimedia-operations
> If you are around at that time and want to help with the monitoring, please
> join us!
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Easy list whitelist

2019-04-04 Thread RhinosF1 Wikipedia
Based on -tech IRC discussion, I'm summing this up @
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/20190404-Adblock-issue given WikiTech
is currently Account creation locked.

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 21:17, RhinosF1 Wikipedia  wrote:

> Hi Nick,
>
> Thanks for the Clarification, From what I know, the issue was present for
> about 10 hours. I'm not sure how widespread the impact was page wise. Is it
> worth summarising what happened anywhere else?
>
> Thanks,
> RhinosF1
>
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 21:15, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi RhinosF1,
>> It was only a single webpage that was reported as being blocked by the
>> browser extension (although there were presumably other pages and wikis
>> affected that went unreported in the past), thus it is probably not of
>> great concern to our thousands of contributors who read the short Tech News
>> newsletter. We try to keep the newsletter short and focused on important
>> items of widespread interest, both for ease of translation and so that
>> people read it in full each week. You can read details about what normally
>> gets included at
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/For_contributors
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 12:38 PM RhinosF1 Wikipedia 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Thanks to Nick for the PR.
>>>
>>> As far as I understand, Easy list is some sort of ad blocking system
>>> that multiple ad blockers use.
>>>
>>> From what I can see, Wiktionary got caught up in a block on URLs ending
>>> in /ads and /advert making some pages blank. It's best to read the Tech IRC
>>> log from 4pm onwards to get the idea.
>>>
>>> I'll have a look at Tech News. I'm happy to write a proper report on
>>> what happened if necessary. Where you would suggest posting it? I can't use
>>> Wikitech due to Account Creation block.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> RhinosF1
>>>
>>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 19:02, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) <
>>> nwil...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Easy List seems to be one of the component in various adblocker tools
>>>> (possibly enabled by default in some or all of them?).
>>>> https://easylist.to/
>>>> E.g. the "uBlock Origin" extension's settings panel which lists it,
>>>> apparently enabled by default:
>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/yN217Tg5/Selection-001.jpg
>>>> I've submitted a pull-request at
>>>> https://github.com/easylist/easylist/pull/3190
>>>> (and +1 to the "please include sufficient context" note :)
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 9:58 AM Andre Klapper 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On Thu, 2019-04-04 at 16:08 +0100, RhinosF1 Wikipedia wrote:
>>>> > > Could someone please see if WMF wikis could be whitelisted as a
>>>> follow up
>>>> > > to
>>>> > > https://github.com/easylist/easylist/issues/3188?
>>>> >
>>>> > What does that mean? Whitelisting what exactly? Where? Please include
>>>> > sufficient context to allow folks on this list to understand
>>>> relevance.
>>>> >
>>>> > > Despite the short term distruption, Could it be placed on Tech News
>>>> as
>>>> > > users were noticing that some pages were blocked?
>>>> >
>>>> > See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News for "Inclusion
>>>> criteria"
>>>> > under "Get started". Obviously I have no idea what "Easy List" is.
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers,
>>>> > andre
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>>>> > https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
>>>> >
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Easy list whitelist

2019-04-04 Thread RhinosF1 Wikipedia
Hi Nick,

Thanks for the Clarification, From what I know, the issue was present for
about 10 hours. I'm not sure how widespread the impact was page wise. Is it
worth summarising what happened anywhere else?

Thanks,
RhinosF1

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 21:15, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) 
wrote:

> Hi RhinosF1,
> It was only a single webpage that was reported as being blocked by the
> browser extension (although there were presumably other pages and wikis
> affected that went unreported in the past), thus it is probably not of
> great concern to our thousands of contributors who read the short Tech News
> newsletter. We try to keep the newsletter short and focused on important
> items of widespread interest, both for ease of translation and so that
> people read it in full each week. You can read details about what normally
> gets included at
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/For_contributors
> Cheers,
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 12:38 PM RhinosF1 Wikipedia 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Thanks to Nick for the PR.
>>
>> As far as I understand, Easy list is some sort of ad blocking system that
>> multiple ad blockers use.
>>
>> From what I can see, Wiktionary got caught up in a block on URLs ending
>> in /ads and /advert making some pages blank. It's best to read the Tech IRC
>> log from 4pm onwards to get the idea.
>>
>> I'll have a look at Tech News. I'm happy to write a proper report on what
>> happened if necessary. Where you would suggest posting it? I can't use
>> Wikitech due to Account Creation block.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> RhinosF1
>>
>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 19:02, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) <
>> nwil...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Easy List seems to be one of the component in various adblocker tools
>>> (possibly enabled by default in some or all of them?).
>>> https://easylist.to/
>>> E.g. the "uBlock Origin" extension's settings panel which lists it,
>>> apparently enabled by default:
>>> https://i.postimg.cc/yN217Tg5/Selection-001.jpg
>>> I've submitted a pull-request at
>>> https://github.com/easylist/easylist/pull/3190
>>> (and +1 to the "please include sufficient context" note :)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 9:58 AM Andre Klapper 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Thu, 2019-04-04 at 16:08 +0100, RhinosF1 Wikipedia wrote:
>>> > > Could someone please see if WMF wikis could be whitelisted as a
>>> follow up
>>> > > to
>>> > > https://github.com/easylist/easylist/issues/3188?
>>> >
>>> > What does that mean? Whitelisting what exactly? Where? Please include
>>> > sufficient context to allow folks on this list to understand relevance.
>>> >
>>> > > Despite the short term distruption, Could it be placed on Tech News
>>> as
>>> > > users were noticing that some pages were blocked?
>>> >
>>> > See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News for "Inclusion criteria"
>>> > under "Get started". Obviously I have no idea what "Easy List" is.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > andre
>>> > --
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>>> > https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Easy list whitelist

2019-04-04 Thread RhinosF1 Wikipedia
Hi,
Thanks to Nick for the PR.

As far as I understand, Easy list is some sort of ad blocking system that
multiple ad blockers use.

From what I can see, Wiktionary got caught up in a block on URLs ending in
/ads and /advert making some pages blank. It's best to read the Tech IRC
log from 4pm onwards to get the idea.

I'll have a look at Tech News. I'm happy to write a proper report on what
happened if necessary. Where you would suggest posting it? I can't use
Wikitech due to Account Creation block.

Thanks,
RhinosF1

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 19:02, Nick Wilson (Quiddity) 
wrote:

> Easy List seems to be one of the component in various adblocker tools
> (possibly enabled by default in some or all of them?).
> https://easylist.to/
> E.g. the "uBlock Origin" extension's settings panel which lists it,
> apparently enabled by default:
> https://i.postimg.cc/yN217Tg5/Selection-001.jpg
> I've submitted a pull-request at
> https://github.com/easylist/easylist/pull/3190
> (and +1 to the "please include sufficient context" note :)
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 9:58 AM Andre Klapper 
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2019-04-04 at 16:08 +0100, RhinosF1 Wikipedia wrote:
> > > Could someone please see if WMF wikis could be whitelisted as a follow
> up
> > > to
> > > https://github.com/easylist/easylist/issues/3188?
> >
> > What does that mean? Whitelisting what exactly? Where? Please include
> > sufficient context to allow folks on this list to understand relevance.
> >
> > > Despite the short term distruption, Could it be placed on Tech News as
> > > users were noticing that some pages were blocked?
> >
> > See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News for "Inclusion criteria"
> > under "Get started". Obviously I have no idea what "Easy List" is.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > andre
> > --
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> >
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[Wikitech-l] Easy list whitelist

2019-04-04 Thread RhinosF1 Wikipedia
Hi,
Could someone please see if WMF wikis could be whitelisted as a follow up
to
https://github.com/easylist/easylist/issues/3188?

Despite the short term distruption, Could it be placed on Tech News as
users were noticing that some pages were blocked?

Thanks,
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator Login Error

2019-04-04 Thread RhinosF1 Wikipedia
Thanks!

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 10:03, RhinosF1 Wikipedia  wrote:

> Ok, thanks for the clarification.
>
> User is still in -tech channel. I've looked through the Phab Admin list
> and it looks like most are US/Canda based so they might be best waiting
> until later.
>
> Thanks for the help
>
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 09:59, K. Peachey  wrote:
>
>> It's been used on and off as required for the past few years.
>>
>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 18:55, RhinosF1 Wikipedia 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Do we know when it was implemented and why? Is it part of the response
>> to earlier security issues?
>> >
>> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 09:51, K. Peachey  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It's a anti-spam measure, One of the Phab administrators will approve
>> >> when available.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 18:28, RhinosF1 Wikipedia 
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi all,
>> >> > Is there any reason Phabricator accounts would be marked not
>> approved?
>> >> > I've not noticed this happening before but there's been a report on
>> IRC
>> >> > (see
>> >> > https://wm-bot.wmflabs.org/logs/%23wikimedia-tech/20190404.txt) by
>> >> > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/Dusti/ saying they are getting
>> the
>> >> > error:  'Your account has been created, but needs to be approved by
>> an
>> >> > administrator. You'll receive an email once your account is
>> approved.' (see
>> >> > https://snag.gy/InXbLz.jpg)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Can someone approve and clarify what's happened?
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator Login Error

2019-04-04 Thread RhinosF1 Wikipedia
Ok, thanks for the clarification.

User is still in -tech channel. I've looked through the Phab Admin list and
it looks like most are US/Canda based so they might be best waiting until
later.

Thanks for the help

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 09:59, K. Peachey  wrote:

> It's been used on and off as required for the past few years.
>
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 18:55, RhinosF1 Wikipedia 
> wrote:
> >
> > Do we know when it was implemented and why? Is it part of the response
> to earlier security issues?
> >
> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 09:51, K. Peachey  wrote:
> >>
> >> It's a anti-spam measure, One of the Phab administrators will approve
> >> when available.
> >>
> >> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 18:28, RhinosF1 Wikipedia 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi all,
> >> > Is there any reason Phabricator accounts would be marked not approved?
> >> > I've not noticed this happening before but there's been a report on
> IRC
> >> > (see
> >> > https://wm-bot.wmflabs.org/logs/%23wikimedia-tech/20190404.txt) by
> >> > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/Dusti/ saying they are getting
> the
> >> > error:  'Your account has been created, but needs to be approved by an
> >> > administrator. You'll receive an email once your account is
> approved.' (see
> >> > https://snag.gy/InXbLz.jpg)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Can someone approve and clarify what's happened?
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator Login Error

2019-04-04 Thread RhinosF1 Wikipedia
Do we know when it was implemented and why? Is it part of the response to
earlier security issues?

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 09:51, K. Peachey  wrote:

> It's a anti-spam measure, One of the Phab administrators will approve
> when available.
>
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 18:28, RhinosF1 Wikipedia 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > Is there any reason Phabricator accounts would be marked not approved?
> > I've not noticed this happening before but there's been a report on IRC
> > (see
> > https://wm-bot.wmflabs.org/logs/%23wikimedia-tech/20190404.txt) by
> > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/Dusti/ saying they are getting the
> > error:  'Your account has been created, but needs to be approved by an
> > administrator. You'll receive an email once your account is approved.'
> (see
> > https://snag.gy/InXbLz.jpg)
> >
> >
> > Can someone approve and clarify what's happened?
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[Wikitech-l] Phabricator Login Error

2019-04-04 Thread RhinosF1 Wikipedia
Hi all,
Is there any reason Phabricator accounts would be marked not approved?
I've not noticed this happening before but there's been a report on IRC
(see
https://wm-bot.wmflabs.org/logs/%23wikimedia-tech/20190404.txt) by
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/Dusti/ saying they are getting the
error:  'Your account has been created, but needs to be approved by an
administrator. You'll receive an email once your account is approved.' (see
https://snag.gy/InXbLz.jpg)


Can someone approve and clarify what's happened?
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