Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user CSS and JS
On 03/05/2013 10:50 PM, Krinkle wrote:
Considering the global aspect it may be more useful (and flexible) to
enforce this from the global script instead of from local preferences, which
are rather annoying to maintain imho.
if ( dbname == wikidatawiki || .. ) {
return;
Good point. wgDBname is probably good enough for this, without needing
a whole local opt-out system.
Matt Flaschen
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user CSS and JS
I may be saying rubbish, but... I think we should have a checkbox in Preferences where we can switch off global JS and CSS for the wiki where this checkbox is set/unset. Let's imagine I have a script which fits well for every project but Wikidata. Then I go to the preferences and just disable the global script in Wikidata. On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 4:00 AM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 4 March 2013 14:59, Krenair kren...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/03/13 22:57, Matthew Flaschen wrote: Has anyone looked at allowing a user to have global CSS and JS across all WMF wikis? I know you can hack it with a mw.loader.load on all the wikis you use, but it would be useful if CentralAuth had it built in. Is there a bug for this? It seems so, yes: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7274 Bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13953 Yes, it would be really lovely to get this enhancement fulfilled (either with that or new code); it's now on the backlog for admin tools development[*]. (I speak conflicted, as someone who's used the bot to fake this globally for my staff account.) [*] - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Admin_tools_development/Roadmap#Other_tasks J. -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- З павагай, Павел Селіцкас/Pavel Selitskas Wizardist @ Wikimedia projects ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user CSS and JS
Not rubbish - that would be quite useful. The only problem is it would be a somewhat limited use case. Many users never go near their css/js, so it would just be another checkbox for them to ignore, and those who do use global css/js would just as likely have wider scope issues than that - only works on english projects, only applies where they have rollback, or don't have rollback, etc - and at that point it would be a lot easier and more effective for them to just add a check to the particular script/css rule that it is on an applicable project before it runs. Although that does assume the user actually understands what they're putting in their user css/js files. On 05/03/13 13:43, Paul Selitskas wrote: I may be saying rubbish, but... I think we should have a checkbox in Preferences where we can switch off global JS and CSS for the wiki where this checkbox is set/unset. Let's imagine I have a script which fits well for every project but Wikidata. Then I go to the preferences and just disable the global script in Wikidata. On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 4:00 AM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 4 March 2013 14:59, Krenair kren...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/03/13 22:57, Matthew Flaschen wrote: Has anyone looked at allowing a user to have global CSS and JS across all WMF wikis? I know you can hack it with a mw.loader.load on all the wikis you use, but it would be useful if CentralAuth had it built in. Is there a bug for this? It seems so, yes: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7274 Bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13953 Yes, it would be really lovely to get this enhancement fulfilled (either with that or new code); it's now on the backlog for admin tools development[*]. (I speak conflicted, as someone who's used the bot to fake this globally for my staff account.) [*] - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Admin_tools_development/Roadmap#Other_tasks J. -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- -— Isarra ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user CSS and JS
You can of course always counter-over-ride your global JS/CSS locally - the composite rule would presumably be changed to: 1. file, 2. site 3. skin, *. global-user 4. local-user … - so you could fix local incompatibilities. J. On 5 March 2013 09:14, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: Not rubbish - that would be quite useful. The only problem is it would be a somewhat limited use case. Many users never go near their css/js, so it would just be another checkbox for them to ignore, and those who do use global css/js would just as likely have wider scope issues than that - only works on english projects, only applies where they have rollback, or don't have rollback, etc - and at that point it would be a lot easier and more effective for them to just add a check to the particular script/css rule that it is on an applicable project before it runs. Although that does assume the user actually understands what they're putting in their user css/js files. On 05/03/13 13:43, Paul Selitskas wrote: I may be saying rubbish, but... I think we should have a checkbox in Preferences where we can switch off global JS and CSS for the wiki where this checkbox is set/unset. Let's imagine I have a script which fits well for every project but Wikidata. Then I go to the preferences and just disable the global script in Wikidata. On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 4:00 AM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org **wrote: On 4 March 2013 14:59, Krenair kren...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/03/13 22:57, Matthew Flaschen wrote: Has anyone looked at allowing a user to have global CSS and JS across all WMF wikis? I know you can hack it with a mw.loader.load on all the wikis you use, but it would be useful if CentralAuth had it built in. Is there a bug for this? It seems so, yes: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/**r/7274https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7274 Bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.**org/13953https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13953 Yes, it would be really lovely to get this enhancement fulfilled (either with that or new code); it's now on the backlog for admin tools development[*]. (I speak conflicted, as someone who's used the bot to fake this globally for my staff account.) [*] - https://www.mediawiki.org/**wiki/Admin_tools_development/** Roadmap#Other_taskshttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Admin_tools_development/Roadmap#Other_tasks J. -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester __**_ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikitech-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- -— Isarra __**_ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikitech-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user CSS and JS
Not rubbish - that would be quite useful. The only problem is it would be a somewhat limited use case. Many users never go near their css/js, so it would just be another checkbox for them to ignore, and those who do use global css/js would just as likely have wider scope issues than that - only works on english projects, only applies where they have rollback, or don't have rollback, etc - and at that point it would be a lot easier and more effective for them to just add a check to the particular script/css rule that it is on an applicable project before it runs. Although that does assume the user actually understands what they're putting in their user css/js files. On 05/03/13 13:43, Paul Selitskas wrote: I may be saying rubbish, but... I think we should have a checkbox in Preferences where we can switch off global JS and CSS for the wiki where this checkbox is set/unset. Let's imagine I have a script which fits well for every project but Wikidata. Then I go to the preferences and just disable the global script in Wikidata. On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 4:00 AM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 4 March 2013 14:59, Krenair kren...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/03/13 22:57, Matthew Flaschen wrote: Has anyone looked at allowing a user to have global CSS and JS across all WMF wikis? I know you can hack it with a mw.loader.load on all the wikis you use, but it would be useful if CentralAuth had it built in. Is there a bug for this? It seems so, yes: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7274 Bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13953 Yes, it would be really lovely to get this enhancement fulfilled (either with that or new code); it's now on the backlog for admin tools development[*]. (I speak conflicted, as someone who's used the bot to fake this globally for my staff account.) [*] - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Admin_tools_development/Roadmap#Other_tasks J. -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- -— Isarra ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user CSS and JS
On 03/05/2013 09:27 AM, James Forrester wrote: You can of course always counter-over-ride your global JS/CSS locally - the composite rule would presumably be changed to: 1. file, 2. site 3. skin, *. global-user 4. local-user However, it's trickier to override JS then override CSS. For example, you can't remove a single event listener unless you have a reference to the original function. Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user CSS and JS
On Mar 6, 2013, at 2:43 AM, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 03/05/2013 09:27 AM, James Forrester wrote:
You can of course always counter-over-ride your global JS/CSS locally - the
composite rule would presumably be changed to:
1. file,
2. site
3. skin,
*. global-user
4. local-user
However, it's trickier to override JS then override CSS. For example,
you can't remove a single event listener unless you have a reference to
the original function.
Matt Flaschen
Considering the global aspect it may be more useful (and flexible) to enforce
this from the global script instead of from local preferences, which are rather
annoying to maintain imho.
if ( dbname == wikidatawiki || .. ) {
return;
}
-- Krinkle
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[Wikitech-l] Global user CSS and JS
Has anyone looked at allowing a user to have global CSS and JS across all WMF wikis? I know you can hack it with a mw.loader.load on all the wikis you use, but it would be useful if CentralAuth had it built in. Is there a bug for this? Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user CSS and JS
It seems so, yes: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7274 Bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13953 On 04/03/13 22:57, Matthew Flaschen wrote: Has anyone looked at allowing a user to have global CSS and JS across all WMF wikis? I know you can hack it with a mw.loader.load on all the wikis you use, but it would be useful if CentralAuth had it built in. Is there a bug for this? Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user CSS and JS
Somebody (pathoschild maybe) used to have a bot that copied over css files from meta. (Why people didnt just dynamically load things I don't know) On 2013-03-04 6:57 PM, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org wrote: Has anyone looked at allowing a user to have global CSS and JS across all WMF wikis? I know you can hack it with a mw.loader.load on all the wikis you use, but it would be useful if CentralAuth had it built in. Is there a bug for this? Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user CSS and JS
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Somebody (pathoschild maybe) used to have a bot that copied over css files from meta. (Why people didnt just dynamically load things I don't know) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pathoschild/Scripts/Synchbot On 2013-03-04 6:57 PM, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.org wrote: Has anyone looked at allowing a user to have global CSS and JS across all WMF wikis? I know you can hack it with a mw.loader.load on all the wikis you use, but it would be useful if CentralAuth had it built in. Is there a bug for this? Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Tilman Bayer Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications) Wikimedia Foundation IRC (Freenode): HaeB ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Global user CSS and JS
On 4 March 2013 14:59, Krenair kren...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/03/13 22:57, Matthew Flaschen wrote: Has anyone looked at allowing a user to have global CSS and JS across all WMF wikis? I know you can hack it with a mw.loader.load on all the wikis you use, but it would be useful if CentralAuth had it built in. Is there a bug for this? It seems so, yes: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/7274 Bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13953 Yes, it would be really lovely to get this enhancement fulfilled (either with that or new code); it's now on the backlog for admin tools development[*]. (I speak conflicted, as someone who's used the bot to fake this globally for my staff account.) [*] - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Admin_tools_development/Roadmap#Other_tasks J. -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
