Re: [Wikitech-l] Prototyping Wiki Inline Comments

2013-05-04 Thread Anthony
Hi Daniel,

I hope to clarify the question you asked. Let's say userA highlighted the
text sunflower stalk and wrote an inline starting comment.

Now userB decides to give an inline reply to the inline comment.

Are you asking about how the system would handle a case in which userA
shifts the highlighting from sunflower stalk to green leaves at the
same time when userB is adding the inline reply?
(and you have userB who thinks his inline reply would be appearing next to
the sunflower stalk text.)


On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Daniel Mietchen 
daniel.mietc...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Anthony,

 interesting feature. How would the system handle cases in which the
 content originally pointed at when making the initial inline comment
 has been changed?

 Daniel


 On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Anthony cs3245...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  I have applied for the Prototyping Inline Comments for the Google Summer
 of
  Code.
 
  Essentially, the project is an extension that allows any wiki user to
  select text and then make an inline comment or a reply to an existing
  inline comment. Imagine: a user lands in a Wikipedia article, selects one
  sentence and leaves an inline comment that others can optionally read and
  reply to.
 
  Users can make useful comments regarding specific part of articles, which
  will be a part of collaborative work. The key benefit is to users to
  collaborate easily - because this actually allows you to point to
 something
  and comment in direct reference to it. It's like pointing your finger to
 a
  piece of paper and telling your friend sitting next to you, which can
 only
  be done in person and is currently impossible over the Internet. So it's
 a
  really powerful feature for collaborations since it makes one of the
  Internet-impossibles into a possible action.
 
  That was for the insertion of a new comment. For the replying part, it
 will
  be a format will likely be similar to how threads are like in a forum,
 for
  the prototype.
 
  As I go along the project, I will be posting more technical details and
  updates. From now til the end of the project, I do hope to get everyone's
  feedback along the way :)
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Prototyping Wiki Inline Comments

2013-05-04 Thread Daniel Mietchen
Hi Anthony,

sorry for not having expressed myself clearly enough.

What I had in mind was mainly that the text of the page might change
after the initial highlighting of parts of that text, but yes,
sometimes an inline comment might actually fit better at a different
place within the text, so moving the comment's location around would
also be interesting.

Daniel


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On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Anthony cs3245...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Daniel,

 I hope to clarify the question you asked. Let's say userA highlighted the
 text sunflower stalk and wrote an inline starting comment.

 Now userB decides to give an inline reply to the inline comment.

 Are you asking about how the system would handle a case in which userA
 shifts the highlighting from sunflower stalk to green leaves at the
 same time when userB is adding the inline reply?
 (and you have userB who thinks his inline reply would be appearing next to
 the sunflower stalk text.)


 On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Daniel Mietchen 
 daniel.mietc...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Anthony,

 interesting feature. How would the system handle cases in which the
 content originally pointed at when making the initial inline comment
 has been changed?

 Daniel


 On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Anthony cs3245...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  I have applied for the Prototyping Inline Comments for the Google Summer
 of
  Code.
 
  Essentially, the project is an extension that allows any wiki user to
  select text and then make an inline comment or a reply to an existing
  inline comment. Imagine: a user lands in a Wikipedia article, selects one
  sentence and leaves an inline comment that others can optionally read and
  reply to.
 
  Users can make useful comments regarding specific part of articles, which
  will be a part of collaborative work. The key benefit is to users to
  collaborate easily - because this actually allows you to point to
 something
  and comment in direct reference to it. It's like pointing your finger to
 a
  piece of paper and telling your friend sitting next to you, which can
 only
  be done in person and is currently impossible over the Internet. So it's
 a
  really powerful feature for collaborations since it makes one of the
  Internet-impossibles into a possible action.
 
  That was for the insertion of a new comment. For the replying part, it
 will
  be a format will likely be similar to how threads are like in a forum,
 for
  the prototype.
 
  As I go along the project, I will be posting more technical details and
  updates. From now til the end of the project, I do hope to get everyone's
  feedback along the way :)
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Prototyping Wiki Inline Comments

2013-05-04 Thread David Cuenca
Hi Anthony,

Your proposal seems quite suitable to annotate texts in Wikisource, since
the text is constant and you will not have problems using the highlighted
text as anchor.
Another participant has suggested storing the annotation as JSON in a new
namespace Annotation:, I think there is a plugin for the OKFN annotator
that can handle this, but I don't know how well Mediawiki could handle it,
maybe a support extension is needed.

David  --User:Micru

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Daniel Mietchen 
daniel.mietc...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi Anthony,

 sorry for not having expressed myself clearly enough.

 What I had in mind was mainly that the text of the page might change
 after the initial highlighting of parts of that text, but yes,
 sometimes an inline comment might actually fit better at a different
 place within the text, so moving the comment's location around would
 also be interesting.

 Daniel


 --
 http://www.google.com/profiles/daniel.mietchen


 On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Anthony cs3245...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Daniel,
 
  I hope to clarify the question you asked. Let's say userA highlighted the
  text sunflower stalk and wrote an inline starting comment.
 
  Now userB decides to give an inline reply to the inline comment.
 
  Are you asking about how the system would handle a case in which userA
  shifts the highlighting from sunflower stalk to green leaves at the
  same time when userB is adding the inline reply?
  (and you have userB who thinks his inline reply would be appearing next
 to
  the sunflower stalk text.)
 
 
  On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Daniel Mietchen 
  daniel.mietc...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Anthony,
 
  interesting feature. How would the system handle cases in which the
  content originally pointed at when making the initial inline comment
  has been changed?
 
  Daniel
 
 
  On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Anthony cs3245...@gmail.com wrote:
   Dear all,
  
   I have applied for the Prototyping Inline Comments for the Google
 Summer
  of
   Code.
  
   Essentially, the project is an extension that allows any wiki user to
   select text and then make an inline comment or a reply to an existing
   inline comment. Imagine: a user lands in a Wikipedia article, selects
 one
   sentence and leaves an inline comment that others can optionally read
 and
   reply to.
  
   Users can make useful comments regarding specific part of articles,
 which
   will be a part of collaborative work. The key benefit is to users to
   collaborate easily - because this actually allows you to point to
  something
   and comment in direct reference to it. It's like pointing your finger
 to
  a
   piece of paper and telling your friend sitting next to you, which can
  only
   be done in person and is currently impossible over the Internet. So
 it's
  a
   really powerful feature for collaborations since it makes one of the
   Internet-impossibles into a possible action.
  
   That was for the insertion of a new comment. For the replying part, it
  will
   be a format will likely be similar to how threads are like in a forum,
  for
   the prototype.
  
   As I go along the project, I will be posting more technical details
 and
   updates. From now til the end of the project, I do hope to get
 everyone's
   feedback along the way :)
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[Wikitech-l] Prototyping Wiki Inline Comments

2013-05-03 Thread Anthony
Dear all,

I have applied for the Prototyping Inline Comments for the Google Summer of
Code.

Essentially, the project is an extension that allows any wiki user to
select text and then make an inline comment or a reply to an existing
inline comment. Imagine: a user lands in a Wikipedia article, selects one
sentence and leaves an inline comment that others can optionally read and
reply to.

Users can make useful comments regarding specific part of articles, which
will be a part of collaborative work. The key benefit is to users to
collaborate easily - because this actually allows you to point to something
and comment in direct reference to it. It's like pointing your finger to a
piece of paper and telling your friend sitting next to you, which can only
be done in person and is currently impossible over the Internet. So it's a
really powerful feature for collaborations since it makes one of the
Internet-impossibles into a possible action.

That was for the insertion of a new comment. For the replying part, it will
be a format will likely be similar to how threads are like in a forum, for
the prototype.

As I go along the project, I will be posting more technical details and
updates. From now til the end of the project, I do hope to get everyone's
feedback along the way :)
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Prototyping Wiki Inline Comments

2013-05-03 Thread Daniel Mietchen
Hi Anthony,

interesting feature. How would the system handle cases in which the
content originally pointed at when making the initial inline comment
has been changed?

Daniel


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Anthony cs3245...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,

 I have applied for the Prototyping Inline Comments for the Google Summer of
 Code.

 Essentially, the project is an extension that allows any wiki user to
 select text and then make an inline comment or a reply to an existing
 inline comment. Imagine: a user lands in a Wikipedia article, selects one
 sentence and leaves an inline comment that others can optionally read and
 reply to.

 Users can make useful comments regarding specific part of articles, which
 will be a part of collaborative work. The key benefit is to users to
 collaborate easily - because this actually allows you to point to something
 and comment in direct reference to it. It's like pointing your finger to a
 piece of paper and telling your friend sitting next to you, which can only
 be done in person and is currently impossible over the Internet. So it's a
 really powerful feature for collaborations since it makes one of the
 Internet-impossibles into a possible action.

 That was for the insertion of a new comment. For the replying part, it will
 be a format will likely be similar to how threads are like in a forum, for
 the prototype.

 As I go along the project, I will be posting more technical details and
 updates. From now til the end of the project, I do hope to get everyone's
 feedback along the way :)
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