Re: [Wikitech-l] Rules for text in languages/messages/Messages***.php

2011-04-06 Thread Niklas Laxström
On 5 April 2011 23:45, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Dan Nessett dness...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I understand I need to fix these problems. However, before proceeding I
 wonder if there are other constraints that I must observe. I have read
 the material at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Localisation, but did not
 find the above constraints mentioned there. Is there another place where
 they are specified?


 I've added a few notes about the whitespace stuff:
 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Localisation#Be_aware_of_whitespace_and_line_breaks

Other thing is markup which Mediawiki automatically converts, like
. This is disabled on translatewiki.net but not when editing
messages in local wiki.
Also the message names must be valid Mediawiki titles and unique case
insensitively (restriction placed by twn).

  -Niklas

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[Wikitech-l] Rules for text in languages/messages/Messages***.php

2011-04-05 Thread Dan Nessett
I recently fixed a bug (14901) and attached some patches to the bug 
ticket. Included were some changes to languages/messages/MessagesEn.php. 
Following the directions given at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/
Localisation#Changing_existing_messages, I contacted #mediawiki-i18n and 
asked them for instructions how to proceed with the internationalization 
part of the work.

After looking over my changes, they pointed out that my new message text 
violated some requirements, specifically:

+ I had used /n rather than literal newlines in the text
+ I had put newlines in front of some messages
+ I had put trailing whitespace in some messages

Since I was (and am) unfamiliar with MW internationalization workflow and 
since this text is destined for email messages, not display on a wiki 
page, I was puzzled by these requirements. However, it was explained to 
me that internationalization occurs by display of the text on 
translate.net, which means the text must conform to web page display 
rules. Consequently, the problems specified above interfere with the 
translation work.

I understand I need to fix these problems. However, before proceeding I 
wonder if there are other constraints that I must observe. I have read 
the material at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Localisation, but did not 
find the above constraints mentioned there. Is there another place where 
they are specified?

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-- Dan Nessett


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Rules for text in languages/messages/Messages***.php

2011-04-05 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Dan Nessett dness...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I understand I need to fix these problems. However, before proceeding I
 wonder if there are other constraints that I must observe. I have read
 the material at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Localisation, but did not
 find the above constraints mentioned there. Is there another place where
 they are specified?


I've added a few notes about the whitespace stuff:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Localisation#Be_aware_of_whitespace_and_line_breaks

-- brion
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