Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?
Oh, aye. Might also make sense to have this after the talk, which discusses theory, so then the hack whatever can be where the theory all falls apart. Wait... On 30/09/15 19:55, Jon Robson wrote: It could be a 4 hour afternoon session around the dev summit for instance and could be advertised so anyone can join. Essentially it would be a hackathon focused on skins. If you were really ambitious you'd add prizes for best judged skin etc :) On 30 Sep 2015 12:49 pm, "Isarra Yos" wrote: How would a hack day/afternoon work? Is that an office thing? If so, would that be something you could run based off... uh, more information? On 28/09/15 22:15, Jon Robson wrote: I'd be interested in the process people go through purely from a how can I make this simpler perspective. Alternatively you might want to consider doing a skin hack day/afternoon where people build skins and learn for themselves the horror of that process :) On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Bryan Davis wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Isarra Yos wrote: Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to make a MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you folks want to see from such a talk? I'd love to get an overview on creating a new skin. I would be especially interested in the "tales from the real world" aspects of working with RL, what is and isn't possible without implementing hooks, and lessons learned from past skins the two of you have worked on. Bryan -- Bryan Davis Wikimedia Foundation [[m:User:BDavis_(WMF)]] Sr Software EngineerBoise, ID USA irc: bd808v:415.839.6885 x6855 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?
It could be a 4 hour afternoon session around the dev summit for instance and could be advertised so anyone can join. Essentially it would be a hackathon focused on skins. If you were really ambitious you'd add prizes for best judged skin etc :) On 30 Sep 2015 12:49 pm, "Isarra Yos" wrote: > How would a hack day/afternoon work? Is that an office thing? If so, would > that be something you could run based off... uh, more information? > > On 28/09/15 22:15, Jon Robson wrote: > >> I'd be interested in the process people go through purely from a how can I >> make this simpler perspective. Alternatively you might want to consider >> doing a skin hack day/afternoon where people build skins and learn for >> themselves the horror of that process :) >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Bryan Davis wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Isarra Yos wrote: >>> Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to make a MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you folks want to see from such a talk? >>> I'd love to get an overview on creating a new skin. I would be >>> especially interested in the "tales from the real world" aspects of >>> working with RL, what is and isn't possible without implementing >>> hooks, and lessons learned from past skins the two of you have worked >>> on. >>> >>> Bryan >>> -- >>> Bryan Davis Wikimedia Foundation >>> [[m:User:BDavis_(WMF)]] Sr Software EngineerBoise, ID USA >>> irc: bd808v:415.839.6885 x6855 >>> >>> ___ >>> Wikitech-l mailing list >>> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >>> >>> >> >> > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?
How would a hack day/afternoon work? Is that an office thing? If so, would that be something you could run based off... uh, more information? On 28/09/15 22:15, Jon Robson wrote: I'd be interested in the process people go through purely from a how can I make this simpler perspective. Alternatively you might want to consider doing a skin hack day/afternoon where people build skins and learn for themselves the horror of that process :) On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Bryan Davis wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Isarra Yos wrote: Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to make a MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you folks want to see from such a talk? I'd love to get an overview on creating a new skin. I would be especially interested in the "tales from the real world" aspects of working with RL, what is and isn't possible without implementing hooks, and lessons learned from past skins the two of you have worked on. Bryan -- Bryan Davis Wikimedia Foundation [[m:User:BDavis_(WMF)]] Sr Software EngineerBoise, ID USA irc: bd808v:415.839.6885 x6855 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 5:54 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > I'd be interested in this. Again, partly from the perspective of "I > like to understand my enemies so I can better destroy them" ;) but I > would really like to understand better the relationship between skin > and content in MW. For a little more detail, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106099#1684735 -- I'm interested in exploring what it would mean to implement a skin in client-side JavaScript, but I need to understand better how skins works first. --scott -- (http://cscott.net) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?
I would like to see a wiki page or to watch a video that I could use as a guide to make a new skin - a task that I am postponing since long as "too complex for now". Purodha On 28.09.2015 23:00, Isarra Yos wrote: Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to make a MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you folks want to see from such a talk? -I ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?
I'd be very interested in this! I hope you schedule it keeping in mind remote remotees such as me (India). :) On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 4:06 AM, Christopher Wilson wrote: > I'd be interested as well. My employer is going to be rolling out a new > site design soon, and it'd be great to have our Wikis match everything else > with regard to look and feel. > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Stephen Niedzielski < > sniedziel...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > I would be interested as well! I tried making a custom theme based off > > vector a few years ago but it seemed like quite a bit of effort to build > > something comprehensive that anyone would actually want to replace the > > default with. I'd love a guided tour! > > > > > > --stephen > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Jon Robson wrote: > > > > > I'd be interested in the process people go through purely from a how > can > > I > > > make this simpler perspective. Alternatively you might want to consider > > > doing a skin hack day/afternoon where people build skins and learn for > > > themselves the horror of that process :) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Bryan Davis > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Isarra Yos > > wrote: > > > > > Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to > > > make a > > > > > MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you > > > folks > > > > > want to see from such a talk? > > > > > > > > I'd love to get an overview on creating a new skin. I would be > > > > especially interested in the "tales from the real world" aspects of > > > > working with RL, what is and isn't possible without implementing > > > > hooks, and lessons learned from past skins the two of you have worked > > > > on. > > > > > > > > Bryan > > > > -- > > > > Bryan Davis Wikimedia Foundation< > bd...@wikimedia.org> > > > > [[m:User:BDavis_(WMF)]] Sr Software EngineerBoise, ID > USA > > > > irc: bd808v:415.839.6885 > x6855 > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jon Robson > > > * http://jonrobson.me.uk > > > * https://www.facebook.com/jonrobson > > > * @rakugojon > > > ___ > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > ___ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > -- Niharika Software Engineer (International) Wikimedia Foundation [User:NiharikaKohli] ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?
I'd be interested as well. My employer is going to be rolling out a new site design soon, and it'd be great to have our Wikis match everything else with regard to look and feel. On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Stephen Niedzielski < sniedziel...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > I would be interested as well! I tried making a custom theme based off > vector a few years ago but it seemed like quite a bit of effort to build > something comprehensive that anyone would actually want to replace the > default with. I'd love a guided tour! > > > --stephen > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Jon Robson wrote: > > > I'd be interested in the process people go through purely from a how can > I > > make this simpler perspective. Alternatively you might want to consider > > doing a skin hack day/afternoon where people build skins and learn for > > themselves the horror of that process :) > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Bryan Davis > wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Isarra Yos > wrote: > > > > Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to > > make a > > > > MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you > > folks > > > > want to see from such a talk? > > > > > > I'd love to get an overview on creating a new skin. I would be > > > especially interested in the "tales from the real world" aspects of > > > working with RL, what is and isn't possible without implementing > > > hooks, and lessons learned from past skins the two of you have worked > > > on. > > > > > > Bryan > > > -- > > > Bryan Davis Wikimedia Foundation > > > [[m:User:BDavis_(WMF)]] Sr Software EngineerBoise, ID USA > > > irc: bd808v:415.839.6885 x6855 > > > > > > ___ > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jon Robson > > * http://jonrobson.me.uk > > * https://www.facebook.com/jonrobson > > * @rakugojon > > ___ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?
I would be interested as well! I tried making a custom theme based off vector a few years ago but it seemed like quite a bit of effort to build something comprehensive that anyone would actually want to replace the default with. I'd love a guided tour! --stephen On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Jon Robson wrote: > I'd be interested in the process people go through purely from a how can I > make this simpler perspective. Alternatively you might want to consider > doing a skin hack day/afternoon where people build skins and learn for > themselves the horror of that process :) > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Bryan Davis wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Isarra Yos wrote: > > > Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to > make a > > > MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you > folks > > > want to see from such a talk? > > > > I'd love to get an overview on creating a new skin. I would be > > especially interested in the "tales from the real world" aspects of > > working with RL, what is and isn't possible without implementing > > hooks, and lessons learned from past skins the two of you have worked > > on. > > > > Bryan > > -- > > Bryan Davis Wikimedia Foundation > > [[m:User:BDavis_(WMF)]] Sr Software EngineerBoise, ID USA > > irc: bd808v:415.839.6885 x6855 > > > > ___ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > > -- > Jon Robson > * http://jonrobson.me.uk > * https://www.facebook.com/jonrobson > * @rakugojon > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?
I'd be interested in the process people go through purely from a how can I make this simpler perspective. Alternatively you might want to consider doing a skin hack day/afternoon where people build skins and learn for themselves the horror of that process :) On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Bryan Davis wrote: > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Isarra Yos wrote: > > Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to make a > > MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you folks > > want to see from such a talk? > > I'd love to get an overview on creating a new skin. I would be > especially interested in the "tales from the real world" aspects of > working with RL, what is and isn't possible without implementing > hooks, and lessons learned from past skins the two of you have worked > on. > > Bryan > -- > Bryan Davis Wikimedia Foundation > [[m:User:BDavis_(WMF)]] Sr Software EngineerBoise, ID USA > irc: bd808v:415.839.6885 x6855 > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > -- Jon Robson * http://jonrobson.me.uk * https://www.facebook.com/jonrobson * @rakugojon ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Isarra Yos wrote: > Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to make a > MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you folks > want to see from such a talk? I'd love to get an overview on creating a new skin. I would be especially interested in the "tales from the real world" aspects of working with RL, what is and isn't possible without implementing hooks, and lessons learned from past skins the two of you have worked on. Bryan -- Bryan Davis Wikimedia Foundation [[m:User:BDavis_(WMF)]] Sr Software EngineerBoise, ID USA irc: bd808v:415.839.6885 x6855 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?
I'd be interested in this. Again, partly from the perspective of "I like to understand my enemies so I can better destroy them" ;) but I would really like to understand better the relationship between skin and content in MW. --scott On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Pine W wrote: > I would like to see a beautiful skin that looks like it was made in 2015! > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Isarra Yos wrote: > >> Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to make a >> MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you folks >> want to see from such a talk? >> >> -I >> >> ___ >> Wikitech-l mailing list >> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- (http://cscott.net) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?
I would like to see a beautiful skin that looks like it was made in 2015! On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Isarra Yos wrote: > Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to make a > MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you folks > want to see from such a talk? > > -I > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?
Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to make a MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you folks want to see from such a talk? -I ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l