Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?

2015-09-30 Thread Isarra Yos
Oh, aye. Might also make sense to have this after the talk, which 
discusses theory, so then the hack whatever can be where the theory all 
falls apart.


Wait...

On 30/09/15 19:55, Jon Robson wrote:

It could be a 4 hour afternoon session around the dev summit for instance
and could be advertised so anyone can join. Essentially it would be a
hackathon focused on skins. If you were really ambitious you'd add prizes
for best judged skin etc :)
On 30 Sep 2015 12:49 pm, "Isarra Yos"  wrote:


How would a hack day/afternoon work? Is that an office thing? If so, would
that be something you could run based off... uh, more information?

On 28/09/15 22:15, Jon Robson wrote:


I'd be interested in the process people go through purely from a how can I
make this simpler perspective. Alternatively you might want to consider
doing a skin hack day/afternoon where people build skins and learn for
themselves the horror of that process :)



On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Bryan Davis  wrote:

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Isarra Yos  wrote:

Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to make
a
MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you
folks
want to see from such a talk?


I'd love to get an overview on creating a new skin. I would be
especially interested in the "tales from the real world" aspects of
working with RL, what is and isn't possible without implementing
hooks, and lessons learned from past skins the two of you have worked
on.

Bryan
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?

2015-09-30 Thread Jon Robson
It could be a 4 hour afternoon session around the dev summit for instance
and could be advertised so anyone can join. Essentially it would be a
hackathon focused on skins. If you were really ambitious you'd add prizes
for best judged skin etc :)
On 30 Sep 2015 12:49 pm, "Isarra Yos"  wrote:

> How would a hack day/afternoon work? Is that an office thing? If so, would
> that be something you could run based off... uh, more information?
>
> On 28/09/15 22:15, Jon Robson wrote:
>
>> I'd be interested in the process people go through purely from a how can I
>> make this simpler perspective. Alternatively you might want to consider
>> doing a skin hack day/afternoon where people build skins and learn for
>> themselves the horror of that process :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Bryan Davis  wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Isarra Yos  wrote:
>>>
 Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to make
 a
 MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you
 folks
 want to see from such a talk?

>>> I'd love to get an overview on creating a new skin. I would be
>>> especially interested in the "tales from the real world" aspects of
>>> working with RL, what is and isn't possible without implementing
>>> hooks, and lessons learned from past skins the two of you have worked
>>> on.
>>>
>>> Bryan
>>> --
>>> Bryan Davis  Wikimedia Foundation
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>>> irc: bd808v:415.839.6885 x6855
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?

2015-09-30 Thread Isarra Yos
How would a hack day/afternoon work? Is that an office thing? If so, 
would that be something you could run based off... uh, more information?


On 28/09/15 22:15, Jon Robson wrote:

I'd be interested in the process people go through purely from a how can I
make this simpler perspective. Alternatively you might want to consider
doing a skin hack day/afternoon where people build skins and learn for
themselves the horror of that process :)



On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Bryan Davis  wrote:


On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Isarra Yos  wrote:

Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to make a
MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you folks
want to see from such a talk?

I'd love to get an overview on creating a new skin. I would be
especially interested in the "tales from the real world" aspects of
working with RL, what is and isn't possible without implementing
hooks, and lessons learned from past skins the two of you have worked
on.

Bryan
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?

2015-09-29 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 5:54 PM, C. Scott Ananian
 wrote:
> I'd be interested in this.  Again, partly from the perspective of "I
> like to understand my enemies so I can better destroy them" ;) but I
> would really like to understand better the relationship between skin
> and content in MW.

For a little more detail, see
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106099#1684735 -- I'm interested in
exploring what it would mean to implement a skin in client-side
JavaScript, but I need to understand better how skins works first.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?

2015-09-29 Thread Purodha Blissenbach

I would like to see a wiki page or to watch a video that I could use
as a guide to make a new skin - a task that I am postponing since long
as "too complex for now".

Purodha

On 28.09.2015 23:00, Isarra Yos wrote:

Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to
make a MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What 
would

you folks want to see from such a talk?

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?

2015-09-28 Thread Niharika Kohli
I'd be very interested in this! I hope you schedule it keeping in mind
remote remotees such as me (India). :)

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 4:06 AM, Christopher Wilson 
wrote:

> I'd be interested as well. My employer is going to be rolling out a new
> site design soon, and it'd be great to have our Wikis match everything else
> with regard to look and feel.
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Stephen Niedzielski <
> sniedziel...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > I would be interested as well! I tried making a custom theme based off
> > vector a few years ago but it seemed like quite a bit of effort to build
> > something comprehensive that anyone would actually want to replace the
> > default with. I'd love a guided tour!
> >
> >
> > --stephen
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Jon Robson  wrote:
> >
> > > I'd be interested in the process people go through purely from a how
> can
> > I
> > > make this simpler perspective. Alternatively you might want to consider
> > > doing a skin hack day/afternoon where people build skins and learn for
> > > themselves the horror of that process :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Bryan Davis 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Isarra Yos 
> > wrote:
> > > > > Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to
> > > make a
> > > > > MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you
> > > folks
> > > > > want to see from such a talk?
> > > >
> > > > I'd love to get an overview on creating a new skin. I would be
> > > > especially interested in the "tales from the real world" aspects of
> > > > working with RL, what is and isn't possible without implementing
> > > > hooks, and lessons learned from past skins the two of you have worked
> > > > on.
> > > >
> > > > Bryan
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> bd...@wikimedia.org>
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> USA
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?

2015-09-28 Thread Christopher Wilson
I'd be interested as well. My employer is going to be rolling out a new
site design soon, and it'd be great to have our Wikis match everything else
with regard to look and feel.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Stephen Niedzielski <
sniedziel...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> I would be interested as well! I tried making a custom theme based off
> vector a few years ago but it seemed like quite a bit of effort to build
> something comprehensive that anyone would actually want to replace the
> default with. I'd love a guided tour!
>
>
> --stephen
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Jon Robson  wrote:
>
> > I'd be interested in the process people go through purely from a how can
> I
> > make this simpler perspective. Alternatively you might want to consider
> > doing a skin hack day/afternoon where people build skins and learn for
> > themselves the horror of that process :)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Bryan Davis 
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Isarra Yos 
> wrote:
> > > > Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to
> > make a
> > > > MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you
> > folks
> > > > want to see from such a talk?
> > >
> > > I'd love to get an overview on creating a new skin. I would be
> > > especially interested in the "tales from the real world" aspects of
> > > working with RL, what is and isn't possible without implementing
> > > hooks, and lessons learned from past skins the two of you have worked
> > > on.
> > >
> > > Bryan
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> > > Bryan Davis  Wikimedia Foundation
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?

2015-09-28 Thread Stephen Niedzielski
I would be interested as well! I tried making a custom theme based off
vector a few years ago but it seemed like quite a bit of effort to build
something comprehensive that anyone would actually want to replace the
default with. I'd love a guided tour!


--stephen

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Jon Robson  wrote:

> I'd be interested in the process people go through purely from a how can I
> make this simpler perspective. Alternatively you might want to consider
> doing a skin hack day/afternoon where people build skins and learn for
> themselves the horror of that process :)
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Bryan Davis  wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Isarra Yos  wrote:
> > > Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to
> make a
> > > MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you
> folks
> > > want to see from such a talk?
> >
> > I'd love to get an overview on creating a new skin. I would be
> > especially interested in the "tales from the real world" aspects of
> > working with RL, what is and isn't possible without implementing
> > hooks, and lessons learned from past skins the two of you have worked
> > on.
> >
> > Bryan
> > --
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?

2015-09-28 Thread Jon Robson
I'd be interested in the process people go through purely from a how can I
make this simpler perspective. Alternatively you might want to consider
doing a skin hack day/afternoon where people build skins and learn for
themselves the horror of that process :)



On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Bryan Davis  wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Isarra Yos  wrote:
> > Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to make a
> > MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you folks
> > want to see from such a talk?
>
> I'd love to get an overview on creating a new skin. I would be
> especially interested in the "tales from the real world" aspects of
> working with RL, what is and isn't possible without implementing
> hooks, and lessons learned from past skins the two of you have worked
> on.
>
> Bryan
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?

2015-09-28 Thread Bryan Davis
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Isarra Yos  wrote:
> Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to make a
> MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you folks
> want to see from such a talk?

I'd love to get an overview on creating a new skin. I would be
especially interested in the "tales from the real world" aspects of
working with RL, what is and isn't possible without implementing
hooks, and lessons learned from past skins the two of you have worked
on.

Bryan
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?

2015-09-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I'd be interested in this.  Again, partly from the perspective of "I
like to understand my enemies so I can better destroy them" ;) but I
would really like to understand better the relationship between skin
and content in MW.
 --scott

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Pine W  wrote:
> I would like to see a beautiful skin that looks like it was made in 2015!
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Isarra Yos  wrote:
>
>> Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to make a
>> MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you folks
>> want to see from such a talk?
>>
>> -I
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?

2015-09-28 Thread Pine W
I would like to see a beautiful skin that looks like it was made in 2015!

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Isarra Yos  wrote:

> Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to make a
> MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you folks
> want to see from such a talk?
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> -I
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[Wikitech-l] Would anyone be interested in a tech talk about how to make a mw skin?

2015-09-28 Thread Isarra Yos
Jack Phoenix and I were considering doing a tech talk about how to make 
a MediaWiki skin. Would there be any interest in this? What would you 
folks want to see from such a talk?


-I

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