[Wikitech-l] wmf getting ready for puppet3, advice please
Hi puppet wranglers, We're trying to refactor the WMF puppet manifests to get rid of reliance on dynamic scope, since puppet 3 doesn't permit it. Until now we've done what is surely pretty standard pupet 2.x practice: assign values to a variable in the node definition and pick it up in the class from there dynamically. Example: we set $openstack_version to a specific version depending on the node, and the nova and openstack classes do different things depending on that value. Without dynamic scoping that's no longer possible, so I'm wondering what people are doing in the real world to address this, and what best practices are, if any. Hiera? Some sort of class parameterization? Something else? It should go without saying that we'd like not to have to massively rewrite all our manifests, if possible. Thanks, Ariel Glenn ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] wmf getting ready for puppet3, advice please
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:41 AM, Ariel T. Glenn ar...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi puppet wranglers, We're trying to refactor the WMF puppet manifests to get rid of reliance on dynamic scope, since puppet 3 doesn't permit it. Until now we've done what is surely pretty standard pupet 2.x practice: assign values to a variable in the node definition and pick it up in the class from there dynamically. Example: we set $openstack_version to a specific version depending on the node, and the nova and openstack classes do different things depending on that value. Without dynamic scoping that's no longer possible, so I'm wondering what people are doing in the real world to address this, and what best practices are, if any. Hiera? Some sort of class parameterization? Something else? It should go without saying that we'd like not to have to massively rewrite all our manifests, if possible. In puppet3 variables assigned in the node are still global. It's the only place other than facts (or hiera) that you can assign them and have their scope propagate. So, this'll continue working. I think the future path is surely to use hiera rather than assigning variables in role classes (and making tons of role classes based on realm/cluster/site/etc). - Ryan ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] wmf getting ready for puppet3, advice please
Στις 28-01-2014, ημέρα Τρι, και ώρα 10:21 -0800, ο/η Ryan Lane έγραψε: In puppet3 variables assigned in the node are still global. It's the only place other than facts (or hiera) that you can assign them and have their scope propagate. So, this'll continue working. I think the future path is surely to use hiera rather than assigning variables in role classes (and making tons of role classes based on realm/cluster/site/etc). Sweet! I'd been going off the puppet whines in our logs, but after seeing this message I hunted around, and looky there: https://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/14312 Thanks, puppet _ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
