Re: [Wikitech-l] Page Curation for other wikis
As Oliver said, the only reason PageTriage isn't available for every language is because, like Twinkle, it is closely tied to wiki-specific workflows and templates. Our original plan with PageTriage was to make it configurable on-wiki and get volunteers to configure it for each wiki. The extension was architected with this in mind, and indeed, it is possible to configure much of it on-wiki already (although this isn't documented). Unfortunately, the engineers that were working on PageTriage (myself and Benny) were reassigned to build the Echo extension and never had time to finish the on-wiki configuration pieces. I don't have time to elaborate in this email, but I honestly think it would only take a few weeks of work to make PageTriage fully localizable to each wiki. I would really love to see the community request that the Community Tech team work on this as part of the upcoming Community Wishlist Survey ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Community_Tech_team/Community_Wishlist_Survey ). On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 8:03 AM, James Forrester wrote: > On 21 August 2015 at 01:04, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: > > > Hey, > > Page Curation [1][2][3] is a project funded by WMF > > > Was. There have been no substantial commits to it since April 2013. > > [Snip] > > If > > > > it's not funded anymore, Is anyone willing to help as volunteer to work? > > > If someone really wanted to work on it, we'd of course be happy to give > some advice, but as Oliver points out, the code is built around a single > wiki's way of working and generalising it probably isn't going to be very > easy. It might be substantially easier and more efficient to consider how > to build a new tool that could replace it and yet be configured by the > community of each wiki on which it would be deployed. > > J. > -- > James D. Forrester > Lead Product Manager, Editing > Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. > > jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Page Curation for other wikis
On 21 August 2015 at 01:04, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: > Hey, > Page Curation [1][2][3] is a project funded by WMF Was. There have been no substantial commits to it since April 2013. [Snip] If > > it's not funded anymore, Is anyone willing to help as volunteer to work? If someone really wanted to work on it, we'd of course be happy to give some advice, but as Oliver points out, the code is built around a single wiki's way of working and generalising it probably isn't going to be very easy. It might be substantially easier and more efficient to consider how to build a new tool that could replace it and yet be configured by the community of each wiki on which it would be deployed. J. -- James D. Forrester Lead Product Manager, Editing Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Page Curation for other wikis
Does Wikidata contain detailed information on the policies that apply, the categories of deletion available and the conditions under which deletion can be used in various categories? On 21 August 2015 at 10:50, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: > Hmm, But since we have Wikidata now, Is it easier to do? For example > catching notability template from Wikidata instead of hard-coding it make > things easier. > > Best > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 7:10 PM Oliver Keyes wrote: > >> Adding localisation in the languages sense is not the blocker, here; >> the blocker is localising it to /each project/. The extension would >> need to be restructured to allow this and then rewritten for each wiki >> - that's a pretty big task. >> >> On 21 August 2015 at 05:56, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: >> > I found this bug: >> > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50552 >> > >> > But it has "lowest" priority. Why? >> > >> > On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:10 PM wrote: >> > >> >> This could be a good GSoC project. >> >> >> >> On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 18:08 Amir Ladsgroup wrote: >> >> >> >> > Hey, >> >> > Page Curation [1][2][3] is a project funded by WMF but strangely the >> >> > product is only available for English Wikipedia. This is surprising >> >> because >> >> > this tool is useful for all Wikis and I don't think i18n would be very >> >> > hard. >> >> > >> >> > Is there any plans to add i18n and rolling it out in other languages? >> If >> >> > it's not funded anymore, Is anyone willing to help as volunteer to >> work? >> >> > >> >> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_Curation >> >> > [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Page_Curation >> >> > [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageTriage >> >> > >> >> > Best >> >> > ___ >> >> > Wikitech-l mailing list >> >> > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> >> ___ >> >> Wikitech-l mailing list >> >> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> > ___ >> > Wikitech-l mailing list >> > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> >> >> >> -- >> Oliver Keyes >> Count Logula >> Wikimedia Foundation >> >> ___ >> Wikitech-l mailing list >> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Oliver Keyes Count Logula Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Page Curation for other wikis
Hmm, But since we have Wikidata now, Is it easier to do? For example catching notability template from Wikidata instead of hard-coding it make things easier. Best On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 7:10 PM Oliver Keyes wrote: > Adding localisation in the languages sense is not the blocker, here; > the blocker is localising it to /each project/. The extension would > need to be restructured to allow this and then rewritten for each wiki > - that's a pretty big task. > > On 21 August 2015 at 05:56, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: > > I found this bug: > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50552 > > > > But it has "lowest" priority. Why? > > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:10 PM wrote: > > > >> This could be a good GSoC project. > >> > >> On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 18:08 Amir Ladsgroup wrote: > >> > >> > Hey, > >> > Page Curation [1][2][3] is a project funded by WMF but strangely the > >> > product is only available for English Wikipedia. This is surprising > >> because > >> > this tool is useful for all Wikis and I don't think i18n would be very > >> > hard. > >> > > >> > Is there any plans to add i18n and rolling it out in other languages? > If > >> > it's not funded anymore, Is anyone willing to help as volunteer to > work? > >> > > >> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_Curation > >> > [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Page_Curation > >> > [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageTriage > >> > > >> > Best > >> > ___ > >> > Wikitech-l mailing list > >> > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > >> ___ > >> Wikitech-l mailing list > >> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > ___ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > -- > Oliver Keyes > Count Logula > Wikimedia Foundation > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Page Curation for other wikis
Adding localisation in the languages sense is not the blocker, here; the blocker is localising it to /each project/. The extension would need to be restructured to allow this and then rewritten for each wiki - that's a pretty big task. On 21 August 2015 at 05:56, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: > I found this bug: > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50552 > > But it has "lowest" priority. Why? > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:10 PM wrote: > >> This could be a good GSoC project. >> >> On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 18:08 Amir Ladsgroup wrote: >> >> > Hey, >> > Page Curation [1][2][3] is a project funded by WMF but strangely the >> > product is only available for English Wikipedia. This is surprising >> because >> > this tool is useful for all Wikis and I don't think i18n would be very >> > hard. >> > >> > Is there any plans to add i18n and rolling it out in other languages? If >> > it's not funded anymore, Is anyone willing to help as volunteer to work? >> > >> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_Curation >> > [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Page_Curation >> > [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageTriage >> > >> > Best >> > ___ >> > Wikitech-l mailing list >> > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> ___ >> Wikitech-l mailing list >> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Oliver Keyes Count Logula Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Page Curation for other wikis
I found this bug: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50552 But it has "lowest" priority. Why? On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:10 PM wrote: > This could be a good GSoC project. > > On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 18:08 Amir Ladsgroup wrote: > > > Hey, > > Page Curation [1][2][3] is a project funded by WMF but strangely the > > product is only available for English Wikipedia. This is surprising > because > > this tool is useful for all Wikis and I don't think i18n would be very > > hard. > > > > Is there any plans to add i18n and rolling it out in other languages? If > > it's not funded anymore, Is anyone willing to help as volunteer to work? > > > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_Curation > > [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Page_Curation > > [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageTriage > > > > Best > > ___ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Page Curation for other wikis
This could be a good GSoC project. On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 18:08 Amir Ladsgroup wrote: > Hey, > Page Curation [1][2][3] is a project funded by WMF but strangely the > product is only available for English Wikipedia. This is surprising because > this tool is useful for all Wikis and I don't think i18n would be very > hard. > > Is there any plans to add i18n and rolling it out in other languages? If > it's not funded anymore, Is anyone willing to help as volunteer to work? > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_Curation > [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Page_Curation > [3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageTriage > > Best > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
