Re: [Wikitech-l] Using computer vision to categorize images at Commons

2012-02-21 Thread Mike Dupont
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote:
 Le 20/02/12 22:08, Maarten Dammers a écrit :

 Some time ago I played around with computer vision to get images
 categorized on Commons. I documented this at

 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Using_OpenCV_to_categorize_files
 . I don't think I'm going to spend time on it soon, but the results were
 quite promising, so maybe someone else feels like working on this? Would
 probably be a pretty nice student project or just fun to do.


 Google used a game to add keywords to images. Two people (of of them could
 be a robot) were presented two pictures. The aim is to enter a keyword that
 best describe the picture and that the other people will choose too. If both
 people use the same keyword, you gain points :-)

 Imagine, you are being shown a picture whose main subject is a monkey, you
 enter monkey, the other one monkey too. You both earn points. The game
 host now know that the picture is of a monkey :-D

The Google Image Labeler, there are (funny and offensive) videos of
that online.
It is a good idea. Mediawiki does not need a person to check it live,
it has users that are reviewing the changes anyway.

It would be nice to have a *simple* way to put people down and have
them label images, I could find people if it was really simple.
Right now it is not really simple.

Most people just dont have the concentration to read the docs or learn
how to use the wiki.

mike

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Using computer vision to categorize images at Commons

2012-02-21 Thread Maarten Dammers

Hi MZMcBride,

Op 20-2-2012 23:24, MZMcBride schreef:

Maarten Dammers wrote:

Some time ago I played around with computer vision to get images
categorized on Commons. I documented this at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Using_OpenCV_to_categorize_
files
. I don't think I'm going to spend time on it soon, but the results were
quite promising, so maybe someone else feels like working on this? Would
probably be a pretty nice student project or just fun to do.

Neat! :-)

I've had some thoughts about the uses of this. Particularly doing fuzzy
image matching to spot duplicates, rather than relying on the primitive hash
of the contents of the file.
If you want to find duplicate images you might want to play around with 
http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/pywikipedia/trunk/pywikipedia/match_images.py?view=markup


Maarten


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Using computer vision to categorize images at Commons

2012-02-21 Thread Platonides
I looked at perceptual hashing some time ago. A problem was that it had
to keep the uncompressed image in memory, and it was slow for being
applied on commons scale.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Using computer vision to categorize images at Commons

2012-02-20 Thread emijrp
Hi Maarten;

I think that this is a perfect example of open question in wiki research.
WikiPapers has a page for that stuff.[1] Can you add some bits there about
this?

I dind't know about OpenCV, I will check it for sure, and I will try to
something (I'm a bot developer).

Regards,
emijrp

[1] http://wikipapers.referata.com/wiki/List_of_open_questions

2012/2/20 Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl

 Hi everyone,

 Some time ago I played around with computer vision to get images
 categorized on Commons. I documented this at
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/User:Multichill/Using_**
 OpenCV_to_categorize_fileshttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Using_OpenCV_to_categorize_files.
  I don't think I'm going to spend time on it soon, but the results were
 quite promising, so maybe someone else feels like working on this? Would
 probably be a pretty nice student project or just fun to do.

 Maarten


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Using computer vision to categorize images at Commons

2012-02-20 Thread MZMcBride
Maarten Dammers wrote:
 Some time ago I played around with computer vision to get images
 categorized on Commons. I documented this at
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Using_OpenCV_to_categorize_
 files 
 . I don't think I'm going to spend time on it soon, but the results were
 quite promising, so maybe someone else feels like working on this? Would
 probably be a pretty nice student project or just fun to do.

Neat! :-)

I've had some thoughts about the uses of this. Particularly doing fuzzy
image matching to spot duplicates, rather than relying on the primitive hash
of the contents of the file. It might also be possible to do other fun
searches, like looking for watermarks or poorly rotated photos (without the
EXIF data, I guess) or making/breaking CAPTCHAs or...

I wonder if facial recognition will soon need to have some kind of opt-out.

MZMcBride



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Re: [Wikitech-l] Using computer vision to categorize images at Commons

2012-02-20 Thread emijrp
I have found a tutorial for Python coders
http://creatingwithcode.com/howto/face-detection-in-static-images-with-python/After
some tests, it works fine (including René Descartes face : )).

This is going to be very helpful to improve Images for biographies accuracy
http://toolserver.org/~emijrp/imagesforbio/

2012/2/20 emijrp emi...@gmail.com

 Hi Maarten;

 I think that this is a perfect example of open question in wiki research.
 WikiPapers has a page for that stuff.[1] Can you add some bits there about
 this?

 I dind't know about OpenCV, I will check it for sure, and I will try to
 something (I'm a bot developer).

 Regards,
 emijrp

 [1] http://wikipapers.referata.com/wiki/List_of_open_questions


 2012/2/20 Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl

 Hi everyone,

 Some time ago I played around with computer vision to get images
 categorized on Commons. I documented this at
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/**wiki/User:Multichill/Using_**
 OpenCV_to_categorize_fileshttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Using_OpenCV_to_categorize_files.
  I don't think I'm going to spend time on it soon, but the results were
 quite promising, so maybe someone else feels like working on this? Would
 probably be a pretty nice student project or just fun to do.

 Maarten


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Using computer vision to categorize images at Commons

2012-02-20 Thread Antoine Musso

Le 20/02/12 22:08, Maarten Dammers a écrit :

Some time ago I played around with computer vision to get images
categorized on Commons. I documented this at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Using_OpenCV_to_categorize_files
. I don't think I'm going to spend time on it soon, but the results were
quite promising, so maybe someone else feels like working on this? Would
probably be a pretty nice student project or just fun to do.


Google used a game to add keywords to images. Two people (of of them 
could be a robot) were presented two pictures. The aim is to enter a 
keyword that best describe the picture and that the other people will 
choose too. If both people use the same keyword, you gain points :-)


Imagine, you are being shown a picture whose main subject is a monkey, 
you enter monkey, the other one monkey too. You both earn points. 
The game host now know that the picture is of a monkey :-D


--
Antoine hashar Musso


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