RE: [WISPA] Nifty little thing...

2007-06-19 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
I can't be reading this right, sub $10.00 mesh!?  Are these for home mesh
networks, putting together tcp/ip, coffee pot, alarms, curtains, ht/ac,
etc.?
http://www.automation.com/store/p1030details19815.php?x=1pagePath=,
2687,2695

Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-ACCESS, INC
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Providing High Speed Broadband 
to Rural Central California


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Behalf Of Ryan Spott (Excell Data Corporation)
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 8:09 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Nifty little thing...


I have no idea what the cost is:

 

 

http://ortronics.com/us/products/wi-jack-duo/

 

ryan

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[WISPA] [Fwd: North Dakota]

2007-06-19 Thread John Scrivner
Anyone out there a WISP in North Dakota? If yes then please send an 
email off to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frannie is a great gal 
and she can help you to help WISPs and our customers with legislative 
efforts. If you make contact please let us know what work you guys do 
together.

Many thanks,
Scriv


 Original Message 
Subject:North Dakota
Date:   Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:47:49 -0400
From:   Wellings, Frannie (Dorgan) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Hi John,

Do you have any WISPs in North Dakota who are members of WISPA?

Hope you’re doing well!!

Best,

Frannie

***

Frannie Wellings

Office of Senator Byron Dorgan
322 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
(202) 224-2551/ fax (202) 224-1193

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RE: [WISPA] [Fwd: North Dakota]

2007-06-19 Thread Rick Harnish
John and Frannie,

We do not have any subscribers to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.  I
sure don't ever recall hearing from an operator up there.  I'm going to post
this to the isp-wireless list as well.  Maybe there is an North Dakota
operator on that list.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:18 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WISPA] [Fwd: North Dakota]

Anyone out there a WISP in North Dakota? If yes then please send an 
email off to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frannie is a great gal 
and she can help you to help WISPs and our customers with legislative 
efforts. If you make contact please let us know what work you guys do 
together.
Many thanks,
Scriv


 Original Message 
Subject:North Dakota
Date:   Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:47:49 -0400
From:   Wellings, Frannie (Dorgan) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Hi John,

Do you have any WISPs in North Dakota who are members of WISPA?

Hope you're doing well!!

Best,

Frannie

***

Frannie Wellings

Office of Senator Byron Dorgan
322 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
(202) 224-2551/ fax (202) 224-1193


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Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: North Dakota]

2007-06-19 Thread Ryan Langseth

Rick Harnish wrote:

John and Frannie,

We do not have any subscribers to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.  I
sure don't ever recall hearing from an operator up there.  I'm going to post
this to the isp-wireless list as well.  Maybe there is an North Dakota
operator on that list.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA



We are in ND ( and MN ) right along the border

Ryan


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:18 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WISPA] [Fwd: North Dakota]

Anyone out there a WISP in North Dakota? If yes then please send an 
email off to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frannie is a great gal 
and she can help you to help WISPs and our customers with legislative 
efforts. If you make contact please let us know what work you guys do 
together.

Many thanks,
Scriv


 Original Message 
Subject:North Dakota
Date:   Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:47:49 -0400
From:   Wellings, Frannie (Dorgan) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Hi John,

Do you have any WISPs in North Dakota who are members of WISPA?

Hope you're doing well!!

Best,

Frannie

***

Frannie Wellings

Office of Senator Byron Dorgan
322 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
(202) 224-2551/ fax (202) 224-1193




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RE: [WISPA] [Fwd: North Dakota]

2007-06-19 Thread Rick Harnish
Ryan will you please contact Frannie then.  

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ryan Langseth
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: North Dakota]

Rick Harnish wrote:
 John and Frannie,
 
 We do not have any subscribers to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.
I
 sure don't ever recall hearing from an operator up there.  I'm going to
post
 this to the isp-wireless list as well.  Maybe there is an North Dakota
 operator on that list.
 
 Rick Harnish
 President
 OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
 260-827-2482
 Founding Member of WISPA
 
 
We are in ND ( and MN ) right along the border

Ryan

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of John Scrivner
 Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:18 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [WISPA] [Fwd: North Dakota]
 
 Anyone out there a WISP in North Dakota? If yes then please send an 
 email off to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frannie is a great gal 
 and she can help you to help WISPs and our customers with legislative 
 efforts. If you make contact please let us know what work you guys do 
 together.
 Many thanks,
 Scriv
 
 
  Original Message 
 Subject:  North Dakota
 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:47:49 -0400
 From: Wellings, Frannie (Dorgan)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 Hi John,
 
 Do you have any WISPs in North Dakota who are members of WISPA?
 
 Hope you're doing well!!
 
 Best,
 
 Frannie
 
 ***
 
 Frannie Wellings
 
 Office of Senator Byron Dorgan
 322 Hart Senate Office Building
 Washington, D.C. 20510
 (202) 224-2551/ fax (202) 224-1193
 
 

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RE: [WISPA] Pac Wireless Antennas

2007-06-19 Thread Rick Harnish
I have used 2 of them so far.  I asked Jack Unger about them after I had the
first one in place.  I haven't had any issues with about 20 clients on each
sector so far.  I doubt if I have tested the capacity yet though.  Below are
the comments from his response to my thread.

The thread started on or about May 16th.  Called: 180* sector choices



Rick,

Here's what I see that's good about the Pac Wireless antenna:

1. The 3-in-1 design may be the only solution where only one
antenna-mounting space exists on a tower.

2. The inclusion of electrical downtilt will minimize overshooting
customers.

3. The inclusion of null fill will minimize connectivity problems with
customers located very close to the tower.

4. The 15 dBi gain is in the appropriate and usable range.

5. The weight (14 lbs) will make the antenna easy to raise and mount.

6. The price range ($700) is moderate considering that you're really getting
three sector antennas in one.

Here's what I see that will need special consideration and planning.

1. The front-to-back ratio is only 15 dB. This is low compared to the 30 dB
that I usually recommend for high-quality antennas.

2. The sector-to-sector isolation is 35 dB. When compared to the 83 dB of
isolation that 10 feet of vertical separation would provide, 35 dB is a lot
less.

In summary, this appears to be a good antenna system with the one limitation
that the somewhat low f/b ratio and sector-to-sector isolation will combine
to place the burden for good AP-to-AP isolation on the quality of the
co-located access point receivers and the quality of the overall AP/site
design. Receivers with poor or moderate selectivity (in other words,
receivers on Wi-Fi cards) will be overloaded by the other AP transmitters
with the result being a throughput reduction that begins when traffic levels
increase. The more traffic, the more missed incoming packets, the more
retransmissions and the more throughput reduction. The result will be that
the site reaches saturation sooner and won't handle as much traffic as a
site where the AP receivers are not being overloaded.

The solution (other than to use really expensive equipment which has good
receiver filtering and selectivity built in) is to again use single-channel
bandpass filters on each AP. These will reduce the level of signal from the
co-located adjacent-channel AP transmitters and permit the site to handle
more traffic (reach saturation later) than a site where the receivers ARE
being overloaded.

Finally, in addition to the above, it's important not to defeat the
antenna isolation by letting RF energy leak directly from AP to AP either
on the ground or from PC-card to PC card. Proper shielding and grounding
will help to maintain that hard-won receiver-to-transmitter isolation
resulting in a high-performance, high-traffic handling, reliable, profitable
site.

jack


Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
Supernova Technologies, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jory Privett
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:48 PM
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I was wondering if anyone has used one of these before and if they are worth

the money?
http://www.pacwireless.com/products/SO24.shtml

Jory Privett
WCCS


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