[WISPA] WISP listings
I am listed with Part-15 and Broadband Reports. What other directories are out there? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT announces RB192 and RB333
Am I correct in reading that both of these new boards will require v3 of the OS? I have yet to see a stable, production worthy v3 release. :( Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote: To quote normis: Announcing RB333 and RB192, two new RouterBOARD products beginning to reach distributors at the end of next week! http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/rb192b.pdf http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/rb333b.pdf For now, limited availability only, ask for samples at our distributors. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network
I have lived in Ohio all my life and I believe I know of most of all of the longhaul fiber that exists between cities. I'm sure there are some networks I don't know about, but there has been a lot of money poured into a few unlicensed wireless links that I have been involved with for a particular governmant agency. This agency, if any, would have access to any governmant fiber and said there wasn't any available. If anyone would like to disprove me, please do, It would open up a lot more possibilities. Zack On 8/2/07, Felix A. Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike - My other comments are that local governments have un-used fiber capacity and therefore seeking ways of generating revenue. Such is the case with quasi goverment fiber too. For example, I believe NOAA-NET seeking to promote space and sell fiber services to other providers. (at least that is what I heard two years ago in the Pacific Northwest??) Felix San Francisco Area --- Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt its anything more than PR. Internet connectivity sold by the state of Illinois is ungodly expensive. This is not much (if any) different than Illinois's network www.illinois.net - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/01/2214205from=rss In order to coordinate and expand access to the state's broadband data network, Ohio Governor Ted Strickland has signed an executive order establishing the Ohio Broadband Council and the Broadband Ohio Network. The order directs the Ohio Broadband Council to coordinate efforts to extend access to the Broadband Ohio Network to every county in Ohio. The order allows public and private entities to tap into the Broadband Ohio Network - all with a goal of expanding access to high-speed internet service in parts of the state that presently don't have such service. --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://www.metrospan.net WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT announces RB192 and RB333
Travis Johnson wrote: Am I correct in reading that both of these new boards will require v3 of the OS? I have yet to see a stable, production worthy v3 release. :( The 192 (I don't think I've ever needed nine Ethernet ports on one board) is a MIPS chip, the same as the Routerboard 500s, so in theory it should work. I'm not Mikrotik, so I can't confirm this, but it SHOULD work... The 333 is listed as running on a PPC chip, which isn't supported by any older version of RouterOS. Didn't the RouterBoard 500s have the same problem at release (where they were only supported by the still-beta RouterOS 2.9 software)? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
None taken. Our markets and delivered services are likely very different. Currently we do not profit that much (3 digits) from our users so its hard to pay that much. As others stated it would have to be for installed users only, not just the lead. Also, what about people who come to us and turn it down, but come back in 6 months, a year, 18 months? Does the bounty stand or is there a time limit? The main reason I am interested is so that I keep ahead of others in the area, evdo being one of them since Version just spent a lot of money on new towers out here. If only there was whole sale access to evdo so I could sell my own service via its last mile and bundle it with my current offerings. On 8/3/07, Zack Kneisley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert I would be willing to pay a bounty, Top rank on the Google search results is impressive. I'm sure that many other independent WISP's would be happy to pay a bounty as long as it generated customers and was a fair price. Personally (no offense Marlon or Jeromie) I would even be willing to pay a lot more for a referral, even in the 3 digits, as long as it was a fair payout for a contract customer. Customer acquisition and retention is one of the most important aspects of the game. I think it even might be possible to get residual income as long as it's fair. I don't mind handing out money, as long we both make money. Zack On 8/3/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have spare bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to own that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wispa wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] WISP listings
Mike: As soon as you are actually providing Broadband Wireless Internet Access service, I'd be happy to list you at http://www.bwiaserviceproviders.com. Same offer to all other Broadband Wireless Internet Access Service Providers on this list. You don't have to be a member of WISPA (or Part-15.Org, or WCA, or ...) to be listed - just be an actual provider of Broadband Wireless Internet Access. If you'd like to be listed - send me an email OFF LIST. As for criteria for entities already on the list - I add listings as I encounter them from all KINDS of sources, so don't take offense if you're not already on the list (or undue pleasure if you already are on the list.) Thanks, Steve On 8/3/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am listed with Part-15 and Broadband Reports. What other directories are out there? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- Steve Stroh 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.stevestroh.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
We would be willing to pay bounty for clients. Would prefer to not do residual, is too much paperwork. Don Renner NetsurfUSA, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zack Kneisley Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Robert I would be willing to pay a bounty, Top rank on the Google search results is impressive. I'm sure that many other independent WISP's would be happy to pay a bounty as long as it generated customers and was a fair price. Personally (no offense Marlon or Jeromie) I would even be willing to pay a lot more for a referral, even in the 3 digits, as long as it was a fair payout for a contract customer. Customer acquisition and retention is one of the most important aspects of the game. I think it even might be possible to get residual income as long as it's fair. I don't mind handing out money, as long we both make money. Zack On 8/3/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have spare bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to own that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wispa wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
Robert I would be willing to pay a bounty, Top rank on the Google search results is impressive. I'm sure that many other independent WISP's would be happy to pay a bounty as long as it generated customers and was a fair price. Personally (no offense Marlon or Jeromie) I would even be willing to pay a lot more for a referral, even in the 3 digits, as long as it was a fair payout for a contract customer. Customer acquisition and retention is one of the most important aspects of the game. I think it even might be possible to get residual income as long as it's fair. I don't mind handing out money, as long we both make money. Zack On 8/3/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have spare bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to own that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wispa wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
Are WISPs going to lose their renegade attitude and attempt to bond together to take advantage of situations like this? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? I would never pay recurring commissions. I do not know if I would pay for a lead from a Google map system unless it was pre-qualified as being someone who really does want the service. Sometimes people just browse to see what's out there. I really do wish people such as yourself would join us as a vendor member since it is obvious you stand to gain significantly by accessing the hundreds of operators who use our list by selling your wares to them. The address is http://signup.wispa.org. We appreciate what you are doing here but let's face it, you plan to sell us qualified leads if I am reading your intent. So why not be a vendor or stop using us as your sounding board? Scriv Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have spare bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to own that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wispa wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Fw: Update on T1 Mobile Wireless Service
I actually got a call from these guys. The marketing company is about 30 minutes away so Ia sked if I could stop by there office some time. They said sure and gave me an address. Seems their office is located at a residence. The funny thing about it is that this marketing company jsut represtens the actual Wireless Corporation and they are the ones with all the funding. But they can not disclose that companies name. How odd is that?I thought about driving over there one day and taking a look if I ever get a day to waste. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Dustin Jurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:13 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Fw: Update on T1 Mobile Wireless Service Had a group down here in Sarasota making similar claims. All BS. You can put lipstick on a turd and it's still a turd. People want to believe, they were in a small town north of here and convinced about 10 people to write them each 25,000 checks. The next day one of our old employees got word of this, got everyone together that had given them money and got their checks back under the agreement that they would give them the money if they would meet with us and we felt like they had some legs. You know the rest of the story. Never showed up, never called.. But all of these guys got their money back. Dustin Jurman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jory Privett Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 11:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Fw: Update on T1 Mobile Wireless Service HiHas anyone heard of these guys? They keep calling me wanting me to sign up to resell their service saying that if I don't there new technoligy will put me out of business. So far they claim 1.5M NLOS at 30 miles. They say it will cut through trees up to 16 to 20 miles in mountain terain. And they are selling T1s for $19.95 and T3s for $70-$80 with no setup, installation, or equipment costs.. And I get a whole $3 for for each customer I sign up. They also claim to be able to sell T2 and T3 service also. They claim to have 3 licenesed frequencies but will not disclose them. Sounds like a bunch of BS to me. Lots of marketing fluff and no facts. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Jack Sample / Namia Corporation To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: Update on T1 Mobile Wireless Service Hi Jory, Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Hopefully you haven't forgotten me since a lot of water has passed under the bridge since I last communicated with you regarding the T-1 to T-3 level mobile wireless Internet service that is soon to be launched on the world. Well, you may have thought that we went away but it was only a temporary delay. First of all I want to apologize to you for the early notification that turned out to be a false summit. We had felt that launch was eminent when we sent out the cards late last year. The setback was only temporary though and we are finally emerging from the quiet time and able to share what is going on with everyone. I have included the last 7 months of short notes from ItsYourNet CEO Ken Stewart to catch you up on where are are and what can be expected in the next few months. I don't have any information other than what comes out in these news briefs so just stay tuned for further developments. January 4: From ItsYourNet CEO Ken Stewart... The questions are still coming in about the Wireless Internet project and Stock in the Corporation since I released the last newsletter announcing the orders we are under with the Quiet Time on Thursday, December 22, 2006. So... Let me say this again... We are under strict orders to not say anything further about the Wireless project until authorized to do so. And as a result, these questions need to stop coming in to our support channels - Thank you! Furthermore, with a $13-Billion investor, no Seed or Preferred Stock needs to be offered and no other investment capital needs to be sought, so sale of Stock is not required to raise the money needed to launch the project. What you do and will receive as an Affiliate with ItsYourNet is notification of the Stock being made available to the public before you can learn about it going live anywhere else. We will let you know when the Stock is live for public purchase even before your Broker calls you to recommend buying it, but that is all we can do; ItsYourNet does not own the Wireless Company, and even I personally have no way to obtain Stock before it is available publicly. April 26: from ItsYourNet CEO, Ken Stewart... The Wireless Corporation CEO, Mr. Gary Brown, met with us here at ItsYourNet's office last Tuesday and shared some wonderful new developments that we've been authorized to pass on to you. The
Re: [WISPA] Nstreme2 Link Pacwireless
You might also look at a proprietary PoE solution, or maybe regular 48v PoE with a DC-DC (48v to 12v) convertor on the end. You could also look a solar. FWIW, there is a 60 watt injector available (Mfg Part #: TR60A-POE-L) : http://www.wlanmall.com/high-power-watt-power-over-ethernet-injector-lightning-protection-p-727.html On Aug 2 2007, Mike Hammett wrote: They make ATX power supplies with DC inputs, but I don't know if PoE can pass enough wattage for them. Have you seen any of the RB announcements? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nstreme2 Link Pacwireless Hi, Now you are understanding what the rest of us have been going thru for the past couple of years. ;) The RB532 is underpowered for big backhaul links, yet any of the mini-itx or micro-itx boards need 120VAC or a seperate power cable and a power converter inside the box. Running LMR cable works for short runs (20-30ft), but after that it just limits the signal too much. What we really need is an 800mhz Routerboard in the same form factor as the current RB532. :) Travis Microserv Jory Privett wrote: I have been doing some research and these seem great, almost. The main problem I have is power where it needs to be. If I could get 120v then I could easily use one of these units or a standard PC. Most of my sights are on water towers so there is no electricity at the top of them and the radio ahs to be feed with PoE. I have tried putting the radios lower and using LMR cableis to the antennas but have had bad experiences with that in the past. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nstreme2 Link Pacwireless Jory Privett wrote: These look very interesting. Does anyone have any recomendations/experinces with any in particular? Do they support the MikroTik RouterOS? Just get something fanless and low-power, and you're good. I usually suggest fanless because you can get the whole No Moving Parts assembly, which means fewer things that can break; the benefit of that should be obvious :) Low-power is optional, but usually goes along with fanless, because otherwise your computer could cook itself. The biggest downside is probably the some assembly required bit - you're basically buying all the parts for a small desktop computer, and assembling them yourself. There's a bit of learning curve even if you've worked with desktop PCs before (those power supplies especially are tiny, and can be annoying to work with). Your first system will probably take an hour or two to assemble. It will be a bit bigger than a Routerboard 500 - probably six inches square, two or three inches tall. And you'll need real power, as you can't usually run these with POE. RouterOS is available for standard x86 hardware, which most mini-ITX boards would be. You may also want to look at the new Soekris 5501. I haven't tested RouterOS on it, but Soekris is standard x86 hardware, so problems are pretty unlikely. It's a single-board unit, so you don't have to assemble anything; you'll be getting a bit less performance at about the same price, but you don't have to spend an hour putting bits together. mini-box.com has a good selection of bits and pieces; I've bought from them before and they took good care of me. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You!
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
$10 per month on a $30 to $40 per month account? It is to laugh! hehehehe One time fee. If you want a recuring fee I could go for that. It'll be in the $.25 to $.5 range though. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have spare bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to own that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wispa wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
I don't think it's bad to use us as a sounding board. If he comes back and tries to sell something here that's bad. I see no problem with asking people about products and services they'd like though. That's what this list is here for. As for prequal, I'm not worried about that. Even bad leads help to tell me where to go next. I'd only pay for customers actually connected though. Not the leads themselves. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? I would never pay recurring commissions. I do not know if I would pay for a lead from a Google map system unless it was pre-qualified as being someone who really does want the service. Sometimes people just browse to see what's out there. I really do wish people such as yourself would join us as a vendor member since it is obvious you stand to gain significantly by accessing the hundreds of operators who use our list by selling your wares to them. The address is http://signup.wispa.org. We appreciate what you are doing here but let's face it, you plan to sell us qualified leads if I am reading your intent. So why not be a vendor or stop using us as your sounding board? Scriv Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have spare bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to own that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wispa wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
I'd pay for completed installs. But not just leads. Way too many people balk at the install cost or the antenna on the house. And a one time payment. Way too much paperwork for a recurring payment. Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
We don't pay our referral until the new customer has paid at least one month's billing. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? For me, it depends on the account of the person doing the referral. Relays get a monthly per connected user, till their service is free, after that they get nothing. Plain referrals get a one time credit. Both are done as credits in the next billing cycle. The main issue I see is how to handle people that look to be a bad risk. A contract is worthless with some clients so I do everything monthly. I keep ownership of the hardware and they sign and AUP and TOS that states they are responsible for its safe keep and return. So far no issues with people running off but it is coming, as is dead beat payers. With the referral structure I use people do not refer a disreputable person. On 8/3/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have spare bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to own that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wispa wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Robert Q
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have spare bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to own that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wispa wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
One of my competitors is paying $10/month commission to anyone that signs up customers for him. His packages start at $24.95/month for up to 1.5meg and $34.95/month for 4meg down/1meg up. He is using Canopy, with a free install. I wonder how long this one will last... in the past 10 years, we have seen 5 other wireless companies come to the area... and today they are all out of business. Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: $10 per month on a $30 to $40 per month account? It is to laugh! hehehehe One time fee. If you want a recuring fee I could go for that. It'll be in the $.25 to $.5 range though. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have spare bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to own that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wispa wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880
Re: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network
Well, like I said, they intend to put a POP in each county. Dave On 8/3/07, Zack Kneisley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am familiar with this network. Trying to expand, and making it available are still the 2 things that have not happened. Also, in my neck of the woods, it is still 40 miles to the nearest POP. The terrain that is between myself and that pop would take multiple wireless hops. I once did a wireless study to that general area and it would take between 4-6 hops using 300ft towers. Zack On 8/3/07, Dave Hannum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zack, The Ohio Super Computer Center has OSCNet - a network of fiber optic cable around the state. They are trying to expand this program to put a fiber drop in each county that will be available to both public and private last milers. This thing has an enormous capacity - all but a hand full of the state colleges and universities operate of this thing, and I believe they said only about 1/16th of it's capacity is being utilized at this time. http://www.osc.edu/oscnet/ A fellow by the name of Kim Peters in Morgan county is very familiar with this project. [EMAIL PROTECTED] You might talk to him and see how this is coming along. Dave Hannum On 8/3/07, Zack Kneisley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have lived in Ohio all my life and I believe I know of most of all of the longhaul fiber that exists between cities. I'm sure there are some networks I don't know about, but there has been a lot of money poured into a few unlicensed wireless links that I have been involved with for a particular governmant agency. This agency, if any, would have access to any governmant fiber and said there wasn't any available. If anyone would like to disprove me, please do, It would open up a lot more possibilities. Zack On 8/2/07, Felix A. Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike - My other comments are that local governments have un-used fiber capacity and therefore seeking ways of generating revenue. Such is the case with quasi goverment fiber too. For example, I believe NOAA-NET seeking to promote space and sell fiber services to other providers. (at least that is what I heard two years ago in the Pacific Northwest??) Felix San Francisco Area --- Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt its anything more than PR. Internet connectivity sold by the state of Illinois is ungodly expensive. This is not much (if any) different than Illinois's network www.illinois.net - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/01/2214205from=rss In order to coordinate and expand access to the state's broadband data network, Ohio Governor Ted Strickland has signed an executive order establishing the Ohio Broadband Council and the Broadband Ohio Network. The order directs the Ohio Broadband Council to coordinate efforts to extend access to the Broadband Ohio Network to every county in Ohio. The order allows public and private entities to tap into the Broadband Ohio Network - all with a goal of expanding access to high-speed internet service in parts of the state that presently don't have such service. --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://www.metrospan.net WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] fcc committee survey
Hi All, The FCC Committee would like to know your top few issues (3 to 5) that you'd like us to PROACTIVELY work on. Things, mainly, that you'd like us to try to create movement on. Examples might be: Certified components vs. certified systems. Drop the 6' antenna requirement for 6 gig. Expand USF to include broadband services. ? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
I would never pay recurring commissions. I do not know if I would pay for a lead from a Google map system unless it was pre-qualified as being someone who really does want the service. Sometimes people just browse to see what's out there. I really do wish people such as yourself would join us as a vendor member since it is obvious you stand to gain significantly by accessing the hundreds of operators who use our list by selling your wares to them. The address is http://signup.wispa.org. We appreciate what you are doing here but let's face it, you plan to sell us qualified leads if I am reading your intent. So why not be a vendor or stop using us as your sounding board? Scriv Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have spare bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to own that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wispa wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
For me, I see it as I will do the qualifying (I can pretty much hit anyone in the area) one I know they are there. I hope they do join and this helps all wisps, but I also hope its available to non members. The main concern I have is that Verizon just build out EVDO in my area, where as it was not here 6 months ago. Who gets the user in those cases? On 8/3/07, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would never pay recurring commissions. I do not know if I would pay for a lead from a Google map system unless it was pre-qualified as being someone who really does want the service. Sometimes people just browse to see what's out there. I really do wish people such as yourself would join us as a vendor member since it is obvious you stand to gain significantly by accessing the hundreds of operators who use our list by selling your wares to them. The address is http://signup.wispa.org. We appreciate what you are doing here but let's face it, you plan to sell us qualified leads if I am reading your intent. So why not be a vendor or stop using us as your sounding board? Scriv Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have spare bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to own that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wispa wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
With our current program if you are a customer and send me a new customer you get a free month ($35 to $40 value). Up to 12 per year. If you send me more people that that I'll just hire you as a sales person! grin If you aren't a customer and send a customer my way (it happens) then you get a big thank you! laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have spare bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to own that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wispa wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network
Zack, The Ohio Super Computer Center has OSCNet - a network of fiber optic cable around the state. They are trying to expand this program to put a fiber drop in each county that will be available to both public and private last milers. This thing has an enormous capacity - all but a hand full of the state colleges and universities operate of this thing, and I believe they said only about 1/16th of it's capacity is being utilized at this time. http://www.osc.edu/oscnet/ A fellow by the name of Kim Peters in Morgan county is very familiar with this project. [EMAIL PROTECTED] You might talk to him and see how this is coming along. Dave Hannum On 8/3/07, Zack Kneisley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have lived in Ohio all my life and I believe I know of most of all of the longhaul fiber that exists between cities. I'm sure there are some networks I don't know about, but there has been a lot of money poured into a few unlicensed wireless links that I have been involved with for a particular governmant agency. This agency, if any, would have access to any governmant fiber and said there wasn't any available. If anyone would like to disprove me, please do, It would open up a lot more possibilities. Zack On 8/2/07, Felix A. Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike - My other comments are that local governments have un-used fiber capacity and therefore seeking ways of generating revenue. Such is the case with quasi goverment fiber too. For example, I believe NOAA-NET seeking to promote space and sell fiber services to other providers. (at least that is what I heard two years ago in the Pacific Northwest??) Felix San Francisco Area --- Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt its anything more than PR. Internet connectivity sold by the state of Illinois is ungodly expensive. This is not much (if any) different than Illinois's network www.illinois.net - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/01/2214205from=rss In order to coordinate and expand access to the state's broadband data network, Ohio Governor Ted Strickland has signed an executive order establishing the Ohio Broadband Council and the Broadband Ohio Network. The order directs the Ohio Broadband Council to coordinate efforts to extend access to the Broadband Ohio Network to every county in Ohio. The order allows public and private entities to tap into the Broadband Ohio Network - all with a goal of expanding access to high-speed internet service in parts of the state that presently don't have such service. --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://www.metrospan.net WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
For me, it depends on the account of the person doing the referral. Relays get a monthly per connected user, till their service is free, after that they get nothing. Plain referrals get a one time credit. Both are done as credits in the next billing cycle. The main issue I see is how to handle people that look to be a bad risk. A contract is worthless with some clients so I do everything monthly. I keep ownership of the hardware and they sign and AUP and TOS that states they are responsible for its safe keep and return. So far no issues with people running off but it is coming, as is dead beat payers. With the referral structure I use people do not refer a disreputable person. On 8/3/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have spare bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to own that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wispa wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Tools for making LMR400 N connectors...
Oh man. The right tools makes this soo easy! Call Mark B at ec. 800.525.0173 (also cc'd on this message) Here's what you want. Propane torch Toenail clippers. Scissors type. LMR 400 stripper Deburring tool Razor knife LMR 400 crimper (don't need the fancy one that'll do LMR 600 or other sizes, just get the $40ish one) Don't waste time with any connectors other than the Times Microwave EZ ones. They have a captive center pin, very easy and fast to CORRECTLY assemble. Then view this video: http://www.timesmicrowave.com/connectors/video/ez_400_connectors_install.wmv More GREAT stuff here: http://www.timesmicrowave.com/resources/ Have fun. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 9:23 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tools for making LMR400 N connectors... I am looking for tools to / kits for LMR400 N connectors. I was recently given a few hundred feet of LMR400 and I am always in need of short runs of cable here and there. What kits/tools do you use? Where can I get these tools/kits/parts? Why do you like the ones you have? ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tools for making LMR400 N connectors...
Check out Electro-Comm (800) 525-0173, Times EZ Connectors and a LMR400 Crimp tool. -Original Message- From: D. Ryan Spott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 3, 2007 12:23 AM To: ''WISPA General List'' Subject: [WISPA] Tools for making LMR400 N connectors... I am looking for tools to / kits for LMR400 N connectors. I was recently given a few hundred feet of LMR400 and I am always in need of short runs of cable here and there. What kits/tools do you use? Where can I get these tools/kits/parts? Why do you like the ones you have? ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP listings
I am. Have been for a year. ;-) Getting ready to add a second tower, redundant upstream, new marketing campaigns, etc. Will respond offlist. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Steve Stroh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP listings Mike: As soon as you are actually providing Broadband Wireless Internet Access service, I'd be happy to list you at http://www.bwiaserviceproviders.com. Same offer to all other Broadband Wireless Internet Access Service Providers on this list. You don't have to be a member of WISPA (or Part-15.Org, or WCA, or ...) to be listed - just be an actual provider of Broadband Wireless Internet Access. If you'd like to be listed - send me an email OFF LIST. As for criteria for entities already on the list - I add listings as I encounter them from all KINDS of sources, so don't take offense if you're not already on the list (or undue pleasure if you already are on the list.) Thanks, Steve On 8/3/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am listed with Part-15 and Broadband Reports. What other directories are out there? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- Steve Stroh 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.stevestroh.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Fw: Update on T1 Mobile Wireless Service
Had a group down here in Sarasota making similar claims. All BS. You can put lipstick on a turd and it's still a turd. People want to believe, they were in a small town north of here and convinced about 10 people to write them each 25,000 checks. The next day one of our old employees got word of this, got everyone together that had given them money and got their checks back under the agreement that they would give them the money if they would meet with us and we felt like they had some legs. You know the rest of the story. Never showed up, never called.. But all of these guys got their money back. Dustin Jurman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jory Privett Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 11:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Fw: Update on T1 Mobile Wireless Service HiHas anyone heard of these guys? They keep calling me wanting me to sign up to resell their service saying that if I don't there new technoligy will put me out of business. So far they claim 1.5M NLOS at 30 miles. They say it will cut through trees up to 16 to 20 miles in mountain terain. And they are selling T1s for $19.95 and T3s for $70-$80 with no setup, installation, or equipment costs.. And I get a whole $3 for for each customer I sign up. They also claim to be able to sell T2 and T3 service also. They claim to have 3 licenesed frequencies but will not disclose them. Sounds like a bunch of BS to me. Lots of marketing fluff and no facts. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Jack Sample / Namia Corporation To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: Update on T1 Mobile Wireless Service Hi Jory, Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Hopefully you haven't forgotten me since a lot of water has passed under the bridge since I last communicated with you regarding the T-1 to T-3 level mobile wireless Internet service that is soon to be launched on the world. Well, you may have thought that we went away but it was only a temporary delay. First of all I want to apologize to you for the early notification that turned out to be a false summit. We had felt that launch was eminent when we sent out the cards late last year. The setback was only temporary though and we are finally emerging from the quiet time and able to share what is going on with everyone. I have included the last 7 months of short notes from ItsYourNet CEO Ken Stewart to catch you up on where are are and what can be expected in the next few months. I don't have any information other than what comes out in these news briefs so just stay tuned for further developments. January 4: From ItsYourNet CEO Ken Stewart... The questions are still coming in about the Wireless Internet project and Stock in the Corporation since I released the last newsletter announcing the orders we are under with the Quiet Time on Thursday, December 22, 2006. So... Let me say this again... We are under strict orders to not say anything further about the Wireless project until authorized to do so. And as a result, these questions need to stop coming in to our support channels - Thank you! Furthermore, with a $13-Billion investor, no Seed or Preferred Stock needs to be offered and no other investment capital needs to be sought, so sale of Stock is not required to raise the money needed to launch the project. What you do and will receive as an Affiliate with ItsYourNet is notification of the Stock being made available to the public before you can learn about it going live anywhere else. We will let you know when the Stock is live for public purchase even before your Broker calls you to recommend buying it, but that is all we can do; ItsYourNet does not own the Wireless Company, and even I personally have no way to obtain Stock before it is available publicly. April 26: from ItsYourNet CEO, Ken Stewart... The Wireless Corporation CEO, Mr. Gary Brown, met with us here at ItsYourNet's office last Tuesday and shared some wonderful new developments that we've been authorized to pass on to you. The latest on the CPU / chip development is that there are now just two (2) chip manufacturers remaining in the bidding process for the mass production of the chip required to run the Wireless systems. Although we're not yet authorized to disclose the name of these two manufacturers, we expect by the next Newsletter release on May 10, 2007 that we should be able to provide a solid time-frame for the prototype chips to be created, and, thus project a solid time-frame for the mountainous terrain testing. Further developments and news Gary offered is that the Wireless services are going to be going global much faster than originally planned! Due to recent business connections made, shortly after the North American Wireless service is introduced, China will be opened up!
Re: [WISPA] Tools for making LMR400 N connectors...
I used to do them that way. Takes wa too long. At least get the right stripper. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Ty Carter Lightwave Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 4:35 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Tools for making LMR400 N connectors... Ryan: To make the connectors; I use four tools; 1 small Cresent wrench 1 box wrench 1 box cutter 1 small butane power soilder tip A whopping $3.00 woth of tools. I only use amphenol brand connectors. There is really no need to buy an expensive dipole solidering forceps; unless you will have another use for such an expensive piece of equipment. Other than that it is the basics... Read the cutback measurements for your connectors and you will not have a problem. HTH... Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 12:24 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Tools for making LMR400 N connectors... I am looking for tools to / kits for LMR400 N connectors. I was recently given a few hundred feet of LMR400 and I am always in need of short runs of cable here and there. What kits/tools do you use? Where can I get these tools/kits/parts? Why do you like the ones you have? ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT announces RB192 and RB333
The 192 appears to be the same platform as all other 100 series. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT announces RB192 and RB333 Am I correct in reading that both of these new boards will require v3 of the OS? I have yet to see a stable, production worthy v3 release. :( Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote: To quote normis: Announcing RB333 and RB192, two new RouterBOARD products beginning to reach distributors at the end of next week! http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/rb192b.pdf http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/rb333b.pdf For now, limited availability only, ask for samples at our distributors. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISP listings
Hi Steve, Can I get you to add accima.com? It's got our coverage map on it. thanks! Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Steve Stroh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP listings Mike: As soon as you are actually providing Broadband Wireless Internet Access service, I'd be happy to list you at http://www.bwiaserviceproviders.com. Same offer to all other Broadband Wireless Internet Access Service Providers on this list. You don't have to be a member of WISPA (or Part-15.Org, or WCA, or ...) to be listed - just be an actual provider of Broadband Wireless Internet Access. If you'd like to be listed - send me an email OFF LIST. As for criteria for entities already on the list - I add listings as I encounter them from all KINDS of sources, so don't take offense if you're not already on the list (or undue pleasure if you already are on the list.) Thanks, Steve On 8/3/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am listed with Part-15 and Broadband Reports. What other directories are out there? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- Steve Stroh 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.stevestroh.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network
I am familiar with this network. Trying to expand, and making it available are still the 2 things that have not happened. Also, in my neck of the woods, it is still 40 miles to the nearest POP. The terrain that is between myself and that pop would take multiple wireless hops. I once did a wireless study to that general area and it would take between 4-6 hops using 300ft towers. Zack On 8/3/07, Dave Hannum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zack, The Ohio Super Computer Center has OSCNet - a network of fiber optic cable around the state. They are trying to expand this program to put a fiber drop in each county that will be available to both public and private last milers. This thing has an enormous capacity - all but a hand full of the state colleges and universities operate of this thing, and I believe they said only about 1/16th of it's capacity is being utilized at this time. http://www.osc.edu/oscnet/ A fellow by the name of Kim Peters in Morgan county is very familiar with this project. [EMAIL PROTECTED] You might talk to him and see how this is coming along. Dave Hannum On 8/3/07, Zack Kneisley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have lived in Ohio all my life and I believe I know of most of all of the longhaul fiber that exists between cities. I'm sure there are some networks I don't know about, but there has been a lot of money poured into a few unlicensed wireless links that I have been involved with for a particular governmant agency. This agency, if any, would have access to any governmant fiber and said there wasn't any available. If anyone would like to disprove me, please do, It would open up a lot more possibilities. Zack On 8/2/07, Felix A. Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike - My other comments are that local governments have un-used fiber capacity and therefore seeking ways of generating revenue. Such is the case with quasi goverment fiber too. For example, I believe NOAA-NET seeking to promote space and sell fiber services to other providers. (at least that is what I heard two years ago in the Pacific Northwest??) Felix San Francisco Area --- Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt its anything more than PR. Internet connectivity sold by the state of Illinois is ungodly expensive. This is not much (if any) different than Illinois's network www.illinois.net - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/01/2214205from=rss In order to coordinate and expand access to the state's broadband data network, Ohio Governor Ted Strickland has signed an executive order establishing the Ohio Broadband Council and the Broadband Ohio Network. The order directs the Ohio Broadband Council to coordinate efforts to extend access to the Broadband Ohio Network to every county in Ohio. The order allows public and private entities to tap into the Broadband Ohio Network - all with a goal of expanding access to high-speed internet service in parts of the state that presently don't have such service. --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://www.metrospan.net WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] Tools for making LMR400 N connectors...
This is the reason I paid my dues to WISPA! Info like this is GOLD! ryan On Aug 3, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Oh man. The right tools makes this soo easy! Call Mark B at ec. 800.525.0173 (also cc'd on this message) Here's what you want. Propane torch Toenail clippers. Scissors type. LMR 400 stripper Deburring tool Razor knife LMR 400 crimper (don't need the fancy one that'll do LMR 600 or other sizes, just get the $40ish one) Don't waste time with any connectors other than the Times Microwave EZ ones. They have a captive center pin, very easy and fast to CORRECTLY assemble. Then view this video: http://www.timesmicrowave.com/connectors/video/ ez_400_connectors_install.wmv More GREAT stuff here: http://www.timesmicrowave.com/resources/ Have fun. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 9:23 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tools for making LMR400 N connectors... I am looking for tools to / kits for LMR400 N connectors. I was recently given a few hundred feet of LMR400 and I am always in need of short runs of cable here and there. What kits/tools do you use? Where can I get these tools/kits/parts? Why do you like the ones you have? ryan - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
Ask a potential buyer of your company what they think about long term residual payouts to outside parties. If you pay out it better be for a one time fee in my opinion. Scriv Zack Kneisley wrote: Robert I would be willing to pay a bounty, Top rank on the Google search results is impressive. I'm sure that many other independent WISP's would be happy to pay a bounty as long as it generated customers and was a fair price. Personally (no offense Marlon or Jeromie) I would even be willing to pay a lot more for a referral, even in the 3 digits, as long as it was a fair payout for a contract customer. Customer acquisition and retention is one of the most important aspects of the game. I think it even might be possible to get residual income as long as it's fair. I don't mind handing out money, as long we both make money. Zack On 8/3/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have spare bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to own that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wispa wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? Team, Marlon, et al, Need your help to get to next level. We are finally #1 in google under wireless internet. we get LOTS of traffic to our main site daily looking for wireless internet service. BUT we only sell EVDO. ugh. AND we only get a one time bounty. any recommendations on what else and HOW else we can deliver goods/services/subscriptions to our traffic base??? blank slate. -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Robert Q Kim, Wireless Internet Provider http://evdo-coverage.com/satellite-wireless-internet.html http://iptv-coverage.com http://wimax-coverage.com 2611 S. Pacific Coast Highway 101 Suite 203 Cardiff by the Sea, CA 92007 206 984 0880 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Tools for making LMR400 N connectors...
One advice of caution, buy the stripper crimper from the same place that sells the connectors. Not all connectors are the same. for the record, I use electro com and buy my tools from them as well as the times ez's for 5 gig and 2 gig and the cheaper crimp /crimp aluminum connectors for 2 gig only. George WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] MT announces RB192 and RB333
Did I notice on both of those boards, an FCC compliance and CE logo? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 12:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT announces RB192 and RB333 The 192 appears to be the same platform as all other 100 series. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT announces RB192 and RB333 Am I correct in reading that both of these new boards will require v3 of the OS? I have yet to see a stable, production worthy v3 release. :( Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote: To quote normis: Announcing RB333 and RB192, two new RouterBOARD products beginning to reach distributors at the end of next week! http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/rb192b.pdf http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/rb333b.pdf For now, limited availability only, ask for samples at our distributors. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/897 - Release Date: 7/11/2007 9:57 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] fcc committee survey
#1 Certified Components!!! Being able to mix-n-match parts to make it work HERE is my biggest issue! Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, The FCC Committee would like to know your top few issues (3 to 5) that you'd like us to PROACTIVELY work on. Things, mainly, that you'd like us to try to create movement on. Examples might be: Certified components vs. certified systems. Drop the 6' antenna requirement for 6 gig. Expand USF to include broadband services. ? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] fcc committee survey
For what is worth, I believe that the USF ALREADY includes broadband services. My understanding is that in order to qualify for USF funding for your broadband services, you must also be conducting business as a ILEC or CLEC in that service area. In other words, telephone companies that service rural area can draw USF funds in order to pay for broadband deployments. However, non-telephone companies cannot tap those same funds to provide broadband services. - Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 1:09 PM To: Principal WISPA Member List Cc: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] fcc committee survey Hi All, The FCC Committee would like to know your top few issues (3 to 5) that you'd like us to PROACTIVELY work on. Things, mainly, that you'd like us to try to create movement on. Examples might be: Certified components vs. certified systems. Drop the 6' antenna requirement for 6 gig. Expand USF to include broadband services. ? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
Scriv, I can see where you are coming from, but is this not an open list? I think that denying a person advice based on their business structure is a bit rude. I'm not sure how this would come across to Robert, but I know how it would come across to me. Business research is done everyday by doing exactly what Robert is doing, asking questions. Yes, I have a chip on my shoulder to the fact their company is making money off of bringing customers to Verizon, but he would do that if he came here for advice or not. I see this as an opportunity to relate what the services the WISPS on this list provide to someone that only has the experience with Verizon. I see this as an opportunity to possibly bring a customer or 2 to me, nothing more. I am willing to pay for a customer. I't called acquisition costs. Weather its in the cost to keep a customer happy so you get the word out that you have good service or a couple greebacks, the outcome is the same, I want a customer that generates revenue. Sure network condition, price, population density, and market have just as much to do with it, but are only small parts of a larger plan. I have many times thought It would be nice to have a small display in radio shack like all the cell providers do. Well, Isn't quite the case but it can, potentially, be a source of potential customers that costs me nothing up front, nothing to setup, and could provide me with a customer. The details are just important. Residual, bounty, lead, whatever the case may be, I'm sure that we could come to terms with an arrangement that bennifits myself, Robert, and my newly acquired customer. If its residual, they could be paid a % if and only if the customer pays their bill. No risk there. If it's bounty, then I would pay after a set # of months of a current account, if it were for a lead, then I would have to say let it be web based and let the server app to take care of the lead customer potential payout, still if only they become a paying customer. These are just what I can think of off the top of my head. I would put it up to Robert to figure out and draft the plan. If I like it ok... If not, no harm done to me. This is why I don't feel he should be bashed and ask for a vendor membership, if they were to want to do something through WISPA, as involving WISPA in the process, sure maybe then WISPA does deserve a fair share, but at this point, I don't see how that would be fair, as the only thing Robert is using of WISPA is the forum, which is open to anyone, right. When he decides it's worth his money to invest in a $500.00 a month ad through WISPA because it makes sense to his company, then can he ask questions? BTW, RObert, I would be happy to talk to you about setting up a WISP referal system, not just for me, but for any wisp out there, I would be happy to help with the technical side of things and the actual lead, bounty, referal structure, all worked into 1 seamless system that would benefit all WISPS that would like to be involved.free, free for my help and to involve any WISP- free. sorry, no grammar or spell check. Zack Kneisley CTO/Chief Network Engineer Giga-Data LLC Office: 740.432.3130 Cell:740.255.6253 - http://www.firewireinternet.com Your one stop shop for Blazing Broadband Internet DSL, Wireless, Dialup, Webhosting, Network Specialists. On 8/3/07, John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I guess his business research that we are all helping him to acquire is not worth anything? I guess I see WISPA as being worth more than some here do. I have personally spent $1250.00 in WISPA direct dues payments (for yearly Principal Membership dues and $1000 for 700 MHz Committee dues) in the last year alone. I also donate hundreds of hours a year to maintaining these lists along with Rick Harnish. I DO THIS FOR FREE FOLKS. The guy asking for business research from all of you pays us nothing and is looking to profit from you. I like to think what I share here has value. Excuse me for thinking others who gain from this group effort should pay their fair share. I take offense to others profiting from us without throwing some money into the pot. If any of you make use of WISPA resources and think you get value from this effort then please feel free to join us by going to http://signup.wispa.org. I am paying my dues. Are you? Scriv Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I don't think it's bad to use us as a sounding board. If he comes back and tries to sell something here that's bad. I see no problem with asking people about products and services they'd like though. That's what this list is here for. As for prequal, I'm not worried about that. Even bad leads help to tell me where to go next. I'd only pay for customers actually connected though. Not the leads themselves. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
Re: [WISPA] fcc committee survey
Amen - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] fcc committee survey #1 Certified Components!!! Being able to mix-n-match parts to make it work HERE is my biggest issue! Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, The FCC Committee would like to know your top few issues (3 to 5) that you'd like us to PROACTIVELY work on. Things, mainly, that you'd like us to try to create movement on. Examples might be: Certified components vs. certified systems. Drop the 6' antenna requirement for 6 gig. Expand USF to include broadband services. ? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] fcc committee survey
I was going to offlist this, but, I might as well put my foot where my mouth is. In my opinion the top things I want addressed would be: I would like to see a WISP License like a Ham License. Its very simple in idea but I think it would truly change the industry. Any one wanting to be a wisp would get access to what ever spectrum can be pulled from the FCC, including all the bands available right now. The license would allow us to produce gear in the same way a ham can solder up a radio and be legal. The test would need to include a lot of things the ham tests do, a lot of things that the CWNP. All installers would need to be certified if they assemble the unit, else, the assembler will need to be. They will need ot put their license # on the unit as well as a unit number or such. That unit number+license will need to be filed with the fcc, but not its location of operation, or, nothing more specific then the county/city it operates in. This has the side effect of giving the FCC some hard numbers with out giving away personal company information. This would be best as a retroactive ruling with grace on old installs. I am not trying to be political but if they can give grace to illegal aliens then they can to wisps too, both are breaking the law and both are being productive so both should get the same treatment. Clearer component cert: IE, what/why is there a difference from a embedded board to a PC or laptop. Laptops ship with built in antennas but no way are all certified mini pci cards tested with that antenna. I would like to see very clear rulings on matching parts. Part of the same, I would like to the allowance of changing cables with out breaking cert. Abandon the USF, or at least reform it drastically. That rural telcos should not get away with cherry picking while getting USF (I know Qwest is doing this too, just picked up a dozen people they will not serve) but its my local that upsets me the most with it. I want dry line tariffs reinstated and enforced. Both Qwest and my local rural telco refuse to sell copper on the grounds they do not have to. I think its stupid that a copper company will not sell copper. Personally I would break the physical company off from the services company, but I know I am dreaming. VZ was at least honest and said they did not want to and so would not. VZ is abandoning copper as fast as they can, so lets make them sell it to some one and not rip it out of the ground. If nothing else it should become city property for them to lease to anyone at the same rates. On 8/3/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, The FCC Committee would like to know your top few issues (3 to 5) that you'd like us to PROACTIVELY work on. Things, mainly, that you'd like us to try to create movement on. Examples might be: Certified components vs. certified systems. Drop the 6' antenna requirement for 6 gig. Expand USF to include broadband services. ? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT announces RB192 and RB333
I see them. Not sure if they have the papers to back that up. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Doug Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] MT announces RB192 and RB333 Did I notice on both of those boards, an FCC compliance and CE logo? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 12:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT announces RB192 and RB333 The 192 appears to be the same platform as all other 100 series. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT announces RB192 and RB333 Am I correct in reading that both of these new boards will require v3 of the OS? I have yet to see a stable, production worthy v3 release. :( Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote: To quote normis: Announcing RB333 and RB192, two new RouterBOARD products beginning to reach distributors at the end of next week! http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/rb192b.pdf http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/rb333b.pdf For now, limited availability only, ask for samples at our distributors. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/897 - Release Date: 7/11/2007 9:57 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] fcc committee survey
I hate it when someone says me too, but...me too. ;-) A lot of the things the FCC has are just silly... like PC with wireless vs. our stuff. Why a HAM can take a test any joke can pass and then manufacture gear himself, but we cannot use piece-it-together gear. I don't care so much about the telco network. If we get all of the other things we want (heck, even a subset) on the wireless side, the telco is irrelevant. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] fcc committee survey I was going to offlist this, but, I might as well put my foot where my mouth is. In my opinion the top things I want addressed would be: I would like to see a WISP License like a Ham License. Its very simple in idea but I think it would truly change the industry. Any one wanting to be a wisp would get access to what ever spectrum can be pulled from the FCC, including all the bands available right now. The license would allow us to produce gear in the same way a ham can solder up a radio and be legal. The test would need to include a lot of things the ham tests do, a lot of things that the CWNP. All installers would need to be certified if they assemble the unit, else, the assembler will need to be. They will need ot put their license # on the unit as well as a unit number or such. That unit number+license will need to be filed with the fcc, but not its location of operation, or, nothing more specific then the county/city it operates in. This has the side effect of giving the FCC some hard numbers with out giving away personal company information. This would be best as a retroactive ruling with grace on old installs. I am not trying to be political but if they can give grace to illegal aliens then they can to wisps too, both are breaking the law and both are being productive so both should get the same treatment. Clearer component cert: IE, what/why is there a difference from a embedded board to a PC or laptop. Laptops ship with built in antennas but no way are all certified mini pci cards tested with that antenna. I would like to see very clear rulings on matching parts. Part of the same, I would like to the allowance of changing cables with out breaking cert. Abandon the USF, or at least reform it drastically. That rural telcos should not get away with cherry picking while getting USF (I know Qwest is doing this too, just picked up a dozen people they will not serve) but its my local that upsets me the most with it. I want dry line tariffs reinstated and enforced. Both Qwest and my local rural telco refuse to sell copper on the grounds they do not have to. I think its stupid that a copper company will not sell copper. Personally I would break the physical company off from the services company, but I know I am dreaming. VZ was at least honest and said they did not want to and so would not. VZ is abandoning copper as fast as they can, so lets make them sell it to some one and not rip it out of the ground. If nothing else it should become city property for them to lease to anyone at the same rates. On 8/3/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, The FCC Committee would like to know your top few issues (3 to 5) that you'd like us to PROACTIVELY work on. Things, mainly, that you'd like us to try to create movement on. Examples might be: Certified components vs. certified systems. Drop the 6' antenna requirement for 6 gig. Expand USF to include broadband services. ? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network
That WOULD be awesome Thanks for the reference. Zack On 8/3/07, Dave Hannum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, like I said, they intend to put a POP in each county. Dave On 8/3/07, Zack Kneisley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am familiar with this network. Trying to expand, and making it available are still the 2 things that have not happened. Also, in my neck of the woods, it is still 40 miles to the nearest POP. The terrain that is between myself and that pop would take multiple wireless hops. I once did a wireless study to that general area and it would take between 4-6 hops using 300ft towers. Zack On 8/3/07, Dave Hannum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zack, The Ohio Super Computer Center has OSCNet - a network of fiber optic cable around the state. They are trying to expand this program to put a fiber drop in each county that will be available to both public and private last milers. This thing has an enormous capacity - all but a hand full of the state colleges and universities operate of this thing, and I believe they said only about 1/16th of it's capacity is being utilized at this time. http://www.osc.edu/oscnet/ A fellow by the name of Kim Peters in Morgan county is very familiar with this project. [EMAIL PROTECTED] You might talk to him and see how this is coming along. Dave Hannum On 8/3/07, Zack Kneisley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have lived in Ohio all my life and I believe I know of most of all of the longhaul fiber that exists between cities. I'm sure there are some networks I don't know about, but there has been a lot of money poured into a few unlicensed wireless links that I have been involved with for a particular governmant agency. This agency, if any, would have access to any governmant fiber and said there wasn't any available. If anyone would like to disprove me, please do, It would open up a lot more possibilities. Zack On 8/2/07, Felix A. Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike - My other comments are that local governments have un-used fiber capacity and therefore seeking ways of generating revenue. Such is the case with quasi goverment fiber too. For example, I believe NOAA-NET seeking to promote space and sell fiber services to other providers. (at least that is what I heard two years ago in the Pacific Northwest??) Felix San Francisco Area --- Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt its anything more than PR. Internet connectivity sold by the state of Illinois is ungodly expensive. This is not much (if any) different than Illinois's network www.illinois.net - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/01/2214205from=rss In order to coordinate and expand access to the state's broadband data network, Ohio Governor Ted Strickland has signed an executive order establishing the Ohio Broadband Council and the Broadband Ohio Network. The order directs the Ohio Broadband Council to coordinate efforts to extend access to the Broadband Ohio Network to every county in Ohio. The order allows public and private entities to tap into the Broadband Ohio Network - all with a goal of expanding access to high-speed internet service in parts of the state that presently don't have such service. --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://www.metrospan.net WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] MT announces RB192 and RB333
And even if they do, that doesn't make a complete radio system FCC compliant... only their board. Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote: I see them. Not sure if they have the papers to back that up. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Doug Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] MT announces RB192 and RB333 Did I notice on both of those boards, an FCC compliance and CE logo? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 12:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT announces RB192 and RB333 The 192 appears to be the same platform as all other 100 series. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT announces RB192 and RB333 Am I correct in reading that both of these new boards will require v3 of the OS? I have yet to see a stable, production worthy v3 release. :( Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote: To quote normis: Announcing RB333 and RB192, two new RouterBOARD products beginning to reach distributors at the end of next week! http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/rb192b.pdf http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/rb333b.pdf For now, limited availability only, ask for samples at our distributors. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/897 - Release Date: 7/11/2007 9:57 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tools for making LMR400 N connectors...
Call your local LMR distributor and tell them to send you a LMR 400 strip tool, crimp tool and order yourself a bunch of those LMR 400 EZ connectors. Problem solved! Scriv Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I used to do them that way. Takes wa too long. At least get the right stripper. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Ty Carter Lightwave Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 4:35 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Tools for making LMR400 N connectors... Ryan: To make the connectors; I use four tools; 1 small Cresent wrench 1 box wrench 1 box cutter 1 small butane power soilder tip A whopping $3.00 woth of tools. I only use amphenol brand connectors. There is really no need to buy an expensive dipole solidering forceps; unless you will have another use for such an expensive piece of equipment. Other than that it is the basics... Read the cutback measurements for your connectors and you will not have a problem. HTH... Ty Carter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 12:24 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Tools for making LMR400 N connectors... I am looking for tools to / kits for LMR400 N connectors. I was recently given a few hundred feet of LMR400 and I am always in need of short runs of cable here and there. What kits/tools do you use? Where can I get these tools/kits/parts? Why do you like the ones you have? ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
I have to agree with this. I am flat broke most of the time and found it in my pocketbook to not drink the fru fru coffee drinks, stick to plain black coffee and send my $25 a month to WISPA. If I can do this, so can _you_ :) ryan (ok, ok... so really my wife and Dr told me to lay off the fru fru drinks as it was making my waste-line too big!) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 11:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? So I guess his business research that we are all helping him to acquire is not worth anything? I guess I see WISPA as being worth more than some here do. I have personally spent $1250.00 in WISPA direct dues payments (for yearly Principal Membership dues and $1000 for 700 MHz Committee dues) in the last year alone. I also donate hundreds of hours a year to maintaining these lists along with Rick Harnish. I DO THIS FOR FREE FOLKS. The guy asking for business research from all of you pays us nothing and is looking to profit from you. I like to think what I share here has value. Excuse me for thinking others who gain from this group effort should pay their fair share. I take offense to others profiting from us without throwing some money into the pot. If any of you make use of WISPA resources and think you get value from this effort then please feel free to join us by going to http://signup.wispa.org. I am paying my dues. Are you? Scriv Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I don't think it's bad to use us as a sounding board. If he comes back and tries to sell something here that's bad. I see no problem with asking people about products and services they'd like though. That's what this list is here for. As for prequal, I'm not worried about that. Even bad leads help to tell me where to go next. I'd only pay for customers actually connected though. Not the leads themselves. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell? I would never pay recurring commissions. I do not know if I would pay for a lead from a Google map system unless it was pre-qualified as being someone who really does want the service. Sometimes people just browse to see what's out there. I really do wish people such as yourself would join us as a vendor member since it is obvious you stand to gain significantly by accessing the hundreds of operators who use our list by selling your wares to them. The address is http://signup.wispa.org. We appreciate what you are doing here but let's face it, you plan to sell us qualified leads if I am reading your intent. So why not be a vendor or stop using us as your sounding board? Scriv Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote: Marlon, Jerome, so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission payout as long as the customer pays? On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is a great idea and could worked right into the referral form by asking them to update them on the status with a email in 60 ~90 days. My referrals and relay hosts shake out to the same price, $5 per user or customer signup. A few of the referrals come out to $10 (free service as right now i have spare bw), both are credits on the next bill. On 8/2/07, Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marlon, guys, is there an industry standard referral commission? anyone out there service europe? I'd be happy to send you biz since the majority of visitors that come to our site need FIXED not mobile internet On 8/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about selling me customers? I'll provide a coverage map and when someone in there contacts you, you forward the info to us. We'll try to sell the account, when we do, we owe you money. Say $10 or $20. You get to own that referral for 6 to 12 months. We may not be able to get to them today, but can with the next expansion. You'd have to at least spot check the ones we say we can't do to make sure we're not sending in false reports etc. but with today's long distance rates that shouldn't be hard to do. just a thought. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Google: Wireless Internet - What to Sell?
Replies below: Zack Kneisley wrote: Scriv, I can see where you are coming from, but is this not an open list? You bet it is open. Thanks to people who pay the dues and donate their time to keep it that way. I think that denying a person advice based on their business structure is a bit rude. I'm not sure how this would come across to Robert, but I know how it would come across to me. What did I deny this guy? I consider it rude to use open list resources as a place to build market data on our industry without throwing a little money in the kitty. I pay my dues, year in and year out, I donate my time. So if people want to use this list to develop a new business model that includes making money from the WISPs who are on here then all I am saying is that it is rude to not throw some money our way and show you support our industry. How is what this guy is doing with his number one placement Google ad bot any different than someone trying to sell you or me a better access point or something? We would not allow that without being a vendor here. I guess the real issue I have about your argument here is that this list is open and I should be allowed to explain why I think he should pay a vendor dues payment just as freely as you are to say I am rude. I am not telling Robert he cannot do what he is doing. I just think it would be better for him to formalize his relationship with WISPA if he is intending to use our resources to market to our membership here. That is what we ask of any other vendor. Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What are your customers worth?
The valuation of WISP user vs Cell user are a little funky. These numbers came off the top of my head and may not be anywhere near resembling reality. I am basing them on what I have made/lost in the WISP business in the past 5 years, and what I have spent/seen others spend on cell phone service for the past 10 years. Some of these numbers are purely speculative. . Typical wisp user revenue: $40/mo - $100/mo Typical wireless phone user revenue: $79/mo - $199/mo Typical install/CPE: take a $150-$200 loss on truck roll, CPE costs, labor, etc Typical cell phone sale/contract: make $100-$200 and give customer a free car charger than costs you $0.99 in bulk. NO TRUCK ROLLS Typical WISP customer problem: $50 truck roll + CPE replacement, cable re-run, POE replacement, 2 hr troubleshooting, etc Typical cell cust prob: sell them a new phone. Make $100, and make them come in to buy it. Typical WISP user cancellation: Pay a tech $50 to go by and uninstall the CPE Typical cell cancellation: CHARGE THEM $200/line to CANCEL Typical WISP customer install with bad credit: Be a nice guy, let them pay out the $200 install over 4 months, never collect anything but the first $50 and get screwed on the rest Typical cell with bad credt: Make them put down a $500 deposit, or get on a pay-as-you-go plan where they pay $0.20/min vs $0.05/min x 2000 min/mo. Typical WISP customer: unlimited email, unlimited downloads, unlimited uploads, unlimited P2P, unlimited complaining if a speed test ever shows 1/bit/sec slower than advertised speed. Typical cell user: $0.05/sms text message, $0.10/bit for downloading crap, $0.99/ea to download ringers. Drop the call/lose the ringer, etc. too bad.. try it again Typical WISP AP: rent the tower for $0-$500/mo and put up a $1000 AP for 40 to 100 subs Tower costs of $5/mo/sub roughly. Typical Cell tower: rent the land for $500/mo, build the tower/equipment for $90k, support 1000+ subs Amortize $90k for 10 years at $750/mo + interest, so the tower costs $12/mo/sub roughly. Now, with that said, do you want to buy a WISP, or do you want to buy a cell phone company? pd Blake Bowers wrote: Kind of rough to figure out what exactly they are paying per subscriber, the system may have a lot of revenue from other sources, such as co-locating. Put another cell carrier on the tower and you can add another 200K or more to the value of the tower. IE, if you have a cellular carrier on your tower, and want to sell, you can expect 8 -9 -10 times yearly revenue, or in some cases even more if you want to sell that tower. (Yep, I'm buying!) Even at the low end of valuation, with just 100 of their towers having a co-locator (And that is a low number for them) thats another 14.5 million dollars of value to Verizon. 15 to 25 percent of the total value of the deal may be coming from other income sources. - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 4:10 PM Subject: [WISPA] What are your customers worth? This astounds me. Read the dollar amounts and customer counts below: Verizon agrees to buy Rural Cellular http://r.smartbrief.com/resp/hCfcixdgyzwWwZCibGluwtpU?format=standard Verizon Wireless is snapping up Rural Cellular in a deal valued at $2.67 billion. The deal will boost Verizon's subscriber numbers by more than 700,000. The Washington Post/Reuters A bit of quick math says that they are paying over $3,000.00 per customer for this company. Obviously WISPs are not able to command such valuations but it is interesting to see what the bigger guys will value top end wireless companies Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What are your customers worth?
Those are some very good comparisons... if taken very lightly in the manner you intended... but to look at some real numbers... My local cell phone company just announced a $59/month unlimited minutes plan. You can then get unlimited SMS, web, pictures, etc. for like another $35/month if you want. $0 for the phone, 2 year contract, no setup fee. They are in debt with every new customer for at least the first few months (phone, sales commissions, overhead, etc.) In my current coverage area, we have a total of 60 towers. They have 105 towers in that same area. Mine each cost me less than $5k for everything, while they spend around $50k average per tower. Their tower techs (not climbers, just the techs) each have new trucks, and make $50k a year salary. My installers make $30k a year, and that is paid from the install fee we charge so they don't cost me anything. They have to use certified tower climbers that get paid $50/hour from the time they leave the office until they get back. We climb our own towers. Their main voice switch cost them almost $2 million about a year ago. My entire NOC (including hosting servers, routers, fiber, etc.) would cost me less than $100k to replace today. I have two offices... they have over 20 offices (not just agents or authorized dealers, actual offices owned by the corporation) with 10+ people in each office. This is just in my small corner of Idaho. So the real question is, are the cell phone companies _really_ making any money, or are they just going farther and farther into debt to produce a quarterly PL that looks good on paper? How do you spend $2 million on a switch that will have to be upgraded in 3-5 years? Oh, and let's not forget the part about being regulated by the FCC. Meaning quarterly reports, filings, hearings, negotiations with LEC's, etc. I'm happy in WISP land. :) Travis Microserv Pete Davis wrote: The valuation of WISP user vs Cell user are a little funky. These numbers came off the top of my head and may not be anywhere near resembling reality. I am basing them on what I have made/lost in the WISP business in the past 5 years, and what I have spent/seen others spend on cell phone service for the past 10 years. Some of these numbers are purely speculative. . Typical wisp user revenue: $40/mo - $100/mo Typical wireless phone user revenue: $79/mo - $199/mo Typical install/CPE: take a $150-$200 loss on truck roll, CPE costs, labor, etc Typical cell phone sale/contract: make $100-$200 and give customer a free car charger than costs you $0.99 in bulk. NO TRUCK ROLLS Typical WISP customer problem: $50 truck roll + CPE replacement, cable re-run, POE replacement, 2 hr troubleshooting, etc Typical cell cust prob: sell them a new phone. Make $100, and make them come in to buy it. Typical WISP user cancellation: Pay a tech $50 to go by and uninstall the CPE Typical cell cancellation: CHARGE THEM $200/line to CANCEL Typical WISP customer install with bad credit: Be a nice guy, let them pay out the $200 install over 4 months, never collect anything but the first $50 and get screwed on the rest Typical cell with bad credt: Make them put down a $500 deposit, or get on a pay-as-you-go plan where they pay $0.20/min vs $0.05/min x 2000 min/mo. Typical WISP customer: unlimited email, unlimited downloads, unlimited uploads, unlimited P2P, unlimited complaining if a speed test ever shows 1/bit/sec slower than advertised speed. Typical cell user: $0.05/sms text message, $0.10/bit for downloading crap, $0.99/ea to download ringers. Drop the call/lose the ringer, etc. too bad.. try it again Typical WISP AP: rent the tower for $0-$500/mo and put up a $1000 AP for 40 to 100 subs Tower costs of $5/mo/sub roughly. Typical Cell tower: rent the land for $500/mo, build the tower/equipment for $90k, support 1000+ subs Amortize $90k for 10 years at $750/mo + interest, so the tower costs $12/mo/sub roughly. Now, with that said, do you want to buy a WISP, or do you want to buy a cell phone company? pd Blake Bowers wrote: Kind of rough to figure out what exactly they are paying per subscriber, the system may have a lot of revenue from other sources, such as co-locating. Put another cell carrier on the tower and you can add another 200K or more to the value of the tower. IE, if you have a cellular carrier on your tower, and want to sell, you can expect 8 -9 -10 times yearly revenue, or in some cases even more if you want to sell that tower. (Yep, I'm buying!) Even at the low end of valuation, with just 100 of their towers having a co-locator (And that is a low number for them) thats another 14.5 million dollars of value to Verizon. 15 to 25 percent of the total value of the deal may be coming from other income sources. - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 4:10 PM Subject: [WISPA] What are your customers
