Re: Alvarion (was Re: [WISPA] RF propagation map: WiFi vs WiMax?)
Patrick Leary wrote: On the Cisco note Matt, Cisco is making ASN gateways for WiMAX and so far the only ones they have slide into our WiMAX macro base stations, so we have and are doing considerable work with them to integrate some of their pieces into ours. Can you expand on that? The Cisco platforms we are running for our network support the ASN gateway. I'd like to understand what advantages this setup has as opposed to just using Ethernet to connect a base station to my Cisco. But along with that point, the only way operators will be able to participate in that part is if they go with an 802.16e version of 3.65 GHz product. The first WiMAX products to hit the band will be based on the old 802.16d standard. While that will provide some of the service benefits of WiMAX, it will not have all the goodies 802.16e will have nor should it be able to achieve the same link budgets that can be achieved with 802.16e. What goodies are you referring to with e? Based on the results of our testing with 3.65 we don't think mobility is going to make much sense in the band. Further, it doesn't appear indoor (self-install) SMs are going to do well beyond 1 mile from the base station. All of which is fine with us. We just want the spectral efficiency and the additional spectrum. 802.16d gets us that I believe. On the regulatory side, vendors also have to solve the unrestricted contention requirement or else your gear will be relegated only to the lower 25 MHz. I suspect some will try to come out with proprietary means of dealing with this, but with that goes some of the standardization. That's what 802.16h set out to fix when the task group was formed 2.5 years ago and it is what we support. That would be an interesting development. I suspect we will see 802.11n-based gear available for the band soon as it should be able to operate in the entire 50Mhz. -Matt ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Horizontally Polarized 900 MHz Antenna
Kelly, MTI makes a 11 dBi Horizontal Omni . I'm sure the price is a little bit higher though Kelly Shaw wrote: I'm trying to find a horizontally polarized omni-directional 900 MHz antenna. Pac Wireless has one for $899 and it is only 9 dB. Does anyone know if there are any other options out there? Kelly Shaw Pure Internet www.pure.net ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Horizontally Polarized 900 MHz Antenna
I'm trying to find a horizontally polarized omni-directional 900 MHz antenna. Pac Wireless has one for $899 and it is only 9 dB. Does anyone know if there are any other options out there? Kelly Shaw Pure Internet www.pure.net ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Horizontally Polarized 900 MHz Antenna
First of all If you are using in the US, remember that most most 900Mhz radios support up to 26db and 10dbi is FCC max antenna gain allowed. Secondly, if we compare Horizontal to Verticaly pol designs 11dbi V antennas are about 11feet tall apposed to 9dbi antennas about 5ft tall. H antenna are very wide usually a foot or so, compared to a vertical of about 2. So a higher gain Omni, may likely be a monster to deal with. MTI also makes a 900Mhz H POl antenna. Someone else also had released one for about $650 but can't remember who, so I'm not much help :-( We were happen with the PacWireless horizontal, except for the price. The PacWireless comes will a tower leg mount included, However, we learned that being that close to the tower did cause inconsistent performance in all directions. Plan on being 24 from tower leg, to no compromise coverage. The other thing we found is that the best thing we could do to gain coverage is to raide antenna to get over the tree line, (Provided farther out hils blocked interference) and the higher we got, the more important wider verticle beamwidth was. We do not recommend 11dbi or higher Omnis UNLESS they also include electronic downtilt and/or NullFill to compensate for the theoretical reduced verticle beamwidth of a typical 11dbi antenna. So my point being... The deployment technique of the anntenna installation has such a much larger effect on performance, than the 1 db difference, of the Pacwireless being spec'ed under 10db max allowed. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Kelly Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Horizontally Polarized 900 MHz Antenna I'm trying to find a horizontally polarized omni-directional 900 MHz antenna. Pac Wireless has one for $899 and it is only 9 dB. Does anyone know if there are any other options out there? Kelly Shaw Pure Internet www.pure.net ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1063 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 9:11 AM ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WTB Trango 900mhz
Hi, I am looking to purchase some Trango 900mhz AP's. Please reply off-list with price. Travis Microserv ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Why the Nokia E70 is better than the iPhone
Nice. Again, another phone that does more than the iPhone. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:39 AM Subject: [WISPA] Why the Nokia E70 is better than the iPhone FWIW, my E70 rules. It is by far the best phone I have ever used. Take that, iPhone fanboys! http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone Matt Larsen vistabeam.com ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Liberty, WV
Can anyone provide access in this area? Hit me off-list for more info. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Shirt Orders
I received numerous orders for WISPA shirts that requested shipments. I will need shipping information from anyone who asked that I ship the shirts to their business or home. Email HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] with this info or you may be waiting a long time for your shirt! ;) If you are attending ISPCON, I will bring your shirts there. I may have a few shirts left over after ISPCON. If we do, I will make an announcement for any late orders. Thanks, Rick Harnish No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1063 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 9:11 AM ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cisco Wireless Bridges
They work OK for us in the East San Francisco Bay area. They have the ability to move to a different channel if the noise gets too bad. JT Don Annas wrote: Is anyone using the Cisco 1300 or 1400 series AP/Bridges? I know they are a bit pricing, but was curious how they performed in a noisy environment? ___ Don Annas Triad Telecom, Inc. 336.510.3800 x111 336.510.3801 FAX [EMAIL PROTECTED] HYPERLINK http://www.TriadTelecom.comwww.TriadTelecom.com ___ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.0/1048 - Release Date: 10/3/2007 8:22 PM -- This message was scanned and is believed to be clean. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
