Re: [WISPA] brain cramp, can someone jog my memory?
Does that really take any less time than just doing it in Radio Mobile? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 12:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] brain cramp, can someone jog my memory? John, As a quick method, you can use National Geographic's Topo! software. I live in a pretty hilly area. When folks call us for service, my wife asks them their address and she puts it into Google Maps. Google maps gives her their general lat and long. Then she tosses those coordinates into Topo and uses the compass tool to draw a line from the tower to the customer. The software can then do a quick walk along that line much like you describe below. The output gives a pretty good idea of wether or not the link tries to go through any rocks. I _really_ love Radio Mobile tho! Topo costs around 50-100 bucks and can hook to your GPS if needed. ryan On Dec 28, 2007, at 9:30 PM, John Valenti wrote: Say Ralph, I don't suppose your offer extends to others? I've looked at Radio Mobile a few times, but didn't want to invest the time to figure it out. My current method involves using google earth, drawing a line between the two points, then sliding the cursor along it to see elevations (while sort of watching the vegetation). Not exactly scientific! If you don't mind doing a path analysis for me, here's one: Site A: 42°55'59.62N 84°14'55.80W I'm using a grain leg here. Site B: 43° 0'15.15N 84°11'37.26W ( I can get a gigabit ethernet connection here -- well, could only afford 5Mbit, but still ...) I would need to build a tower at site B, but how high does it need to be? It is only a 5.5 mile jump, and the elevation doesn't change much, so I would think 70' might work (enough to clear the trees, plus some). The grain leg is about 80', the connection would be 5.8GHz. If you would be willing to run Radio Mobile with this, I would love to see the results. Might encourage me to spend more time with it. And if not, well thanks for your time and happy new year! -John Maple River Networks, LLC Laingsburg Michigan (PS - started a wisp last year. I'm just doing it part-time for now, only about 25 households connected. But I have about 8 POPs setup, working on a better backhaul before I focus on more customers. Currently using a DSL connection that I can't get at on weekends -- was solid for most of the year, but died over Thanksgiving weekend so I was down 3 days. And then power went out and killed it for 6 hours on Christmas) On December 28, at 12:31 PM December 28, ralphlists wrote: Patrick- if you need some done, I'll be glad to do it for you. Here's the URL- it is a bit hard to find. http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html Ralph WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] brain cramp, can someone jog my memory?
For me? Not really. For my wife (or whomever you have working the phone) yes. ;) Just an option... Not a requirement. ryan -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: 12/29/07 3:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] brain cramp, can someone jog my memory? Does that really take any less time than just doing it in Radio Mobile? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 12:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] brain cramp, can someone jog my memory? John, As a quick method, you can use National Geographic's Topo! software. I live in a pretty hilly area. When folks call us for service, my wife asks them their address and she puts it into Google Maps. Google maps gives her their general lat and long. Then she tosses those coordinates into Topo and uses the compass tool to draw a line from the tower to the customer. The software can then do a quick walk along that line much like you describe below. The output gives a pretty good idea of wether or not the link tries to go through any rocks. I _really_ love Radio Mobile tho! Topo costs around 50-100 bucks and can hook to your GPS if needed. ryan On Dec 28, 2007, at 9:30 PM, John Valenti wrote: Say Ralph, I don't suppose your offer extends to others? I've looked at Radio Mobile a few times, but didn't want to invest the time to figure it out. My current method involves using google earth, drawing a line between the two points, then sliding the cursor along it to see elevations (while sort of watching the vegetation). Not exactly scientific! If you don't mind doing a path analysis for me, here's one: Site A: 42°55'59.62N 84°14'55.80W I'm using a grain leg here WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] brain cramp, can someone jog my memory?
Brian Webster does this. www.wirelessmapping.com He does a great job, and the price is well worth it. Mike Bushard, Jr Wireless Network Engineer 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ralphlists Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:55 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] brain cramp, can someone jog my memory? Sure I will do it. Probably be Sat afternoon b4 I can though. Gotta do a router upgrade at one of our POPs -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Valenti Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 12:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] brain cramp, can someone jog my memory? Say Ralph, I don't suppose your offer extends to others? I've looked at Radio Mobile a few times, but didn't want to invest the time to figure it out. My current method involves using google earth, drawing a line between the two points, then sliding the cursor along it to see elevations (while sort of watching the vegetation). Not exactly scientific! If you don't mind doing a path analysis for me, here's one: Site A: 42°55'59.62N 84°14'55.80W I'm using a grain leg here. Site B: 43° 0'15.15N 84°11'37.26W ( I can get a gigabit ethernet connection here -- well, could only afford 5Mbit, but still ...) I would need to build a tower at site B, but how high does it need to be? It is only a 5.5 mile jump, and the elevation doesn't change much, so I would think 70' might work (enough to clear the trees, plus some). The grain leg is about 80', the connection would be 5.8GHz. If you would be willing to run Radio Mobile with this, I would love to see the results. Might encourage me to spend more time with it. And if not, well thanks for your time and happy new year! -John Maple River Networks, LLC Laingsburg Michigan (PS - started a wisp last year. I'm just doing it part-time for now, only about 25 households connected. But I have about 8 POPs setup, working on a better backhaul before I focus on more customers. Currently using a DSL connection that I can't get at on weekends -- was solid for most of the year, but died over Thanksgiving weekend so I was down 3 days. And then power went out and killed it for 6 hours on Christmas) On December 28, at 12:31 PM December 28, ralphlists wrote: Patrick- if you need some done, I'll be glad to do it for you. Here's the URL- it is a bit hard to find. http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html Ralph WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
