[WISPA] Any wireless providers in Abbingdon, VA
I have a friend there that needs some assistance. They have Satellite service at one house and would like to relay that service to a couple of other buildings around the winery. Hit me off list if you can help Mark McElvy 573.729.9200 - Office WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] tower install
We are installing a tower (super titian sc 100 200 foot) in east Texas. We have got a bunch of quotes from different companies. We have received between $12,000-$24,000 for complete installation. Is that a normal amount? Mike Goicoechea No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Mail Server
I need to setup a small mail server on a local network. It only needs SMTP ability as it's just so Asterisk can send out emails. The machine has sendmail installed. My primary mail server seems to be rejecting the messages. Some research says something isn't configured properly. What do I have to do so the outside world accepts emails from my Asterisk box? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mail Server
Do you have a reason they are being rejected? Log file from either server? ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:31 PM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] Mail Server I need to setup a small mail server on a local network. It only needs SMTP ability as it's just so Asterisk can send out emails. The machine has sendmail installed. My primary mail server seems to be rejecting the messages. Some research says something isn't configured properly. What do I have to do so the outside world accepts emails from my Asterisk box? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mail Server
Tell the mail server to allow relay from the Asterisk box address. Mike Hammett wrote: I need to setup a small mail server on a local network. It only needs SMTP ability as it's just so Asterisk can send out emails. The machine has sendmail installed. My primary mail server seems to be rejecting the messages. Some research says something isn't configured properly. What do I have to do so the outside world accepts emails from my Asterisk box? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mail Server
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# mail -v [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Testing... 1, 2, 3 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay... 220 localhost.localdomain ESMTP Sendmail 8.13.8/8.13.8; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:10:30 -0500 EHLO localhost.localdomain 250-localhost.localdomain Hello Aiur [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-PIPELINING 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 250-DSN 250-ETRN 250-DELIVERBY 250 HELP MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=53 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sender ok RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DATA 250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Recipient ok 354 Enter mail, end with . on a line by itself . 250 2.0.0 m2DLAUax004018 Message accepted for delivery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent (m2DLAUax004018 Message accepted for delivery) Closing connection to [127.0.0.1] QUIT 221 2.0.0 localhost.localdomain closing connection [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# tail /var/log/maillog Mar 13 14:58:45 Aiur sendmail[3836]: m2DJwjxF003834: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=120343, relay=mail.ics-il.net. [216.86.145.144], dsn=5.6.0, stat=Data format error Mar 13 14:58:45 Aiur sendmail[3836]: m2DJwjxF003834: m2DJwjxF003836: DSN: Data format error Mar 13 14:58:45 Aiur sendmail[3836]: m2DJwjxF003836: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=31580, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Mar 13 16:10:30 Aiur sendmail[4017]: m2DLAUit004017: from=root, size=53, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mar 13 16:10:30 Aiur sendmail[4018]: m2DLAUax004018: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=352, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=Aiur [127.0.0.1] Mar 13 16:10:30 Aiur sendmail[4017]: m2DLAUit004017: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30053, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (m2DLAUax004018 Message accepted for delivery) Mar 13 16:10:31 Aiur sendmail[4020]: STARTTLS=client, relay=mail.ics-il.net., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, bits=256/256 Mar 13 16:10:31 Aiur sendmail[4020]: m2DLAUax004018: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (0/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=120352, relay=mail.ics-il.net. [216.86.145.144], dsn=5.6.0, stat=Data format error Mar 13 16:10:31 Aiur sendmail[4020]: m2DLAUax004018: m2DLAVax004020: DSN: Data format error Mar 13 16:10:31 Aiur sendmail[4020]: m2DLAVax004020: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=31589, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/root -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mail Server Do you have a reason they are being rejected? Log file from either server? ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:31 PM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] Mail Server I need to setup a small mail server on a local network. It only needs SMTP ability as it's just so Asterisk can send out emails. The machine has sendmail installed. My primary mail server seems to be rejecting the messages. Some research says something isn't configured properly. What do I have to do so the outside world accepts emails from my Asterisk box? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mail Server
oh, and the Asterisk server is behind a NAT. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 3:30 PM Subject: [WISPA] Mail Server I need to setup a small mail server on a local network. It only needs SMTP ability as it's just so Asterisk can send out emails. The machine has sendmail installed. My primary mail server seems to be rejecting the messages. Some research says something isn't configured properly. What do I have to do so the outside world accepts emails from my Asterisk box? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mail Server
My primary mail server? What about email destined to domains not under my control. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Scott Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mail Server Tell the mail server to allow relay from the Asterisk box address. Mike Hammett wrote: I need to setup a small mail server on a local network. It only needs SMTP ability as it's just so Asterisk can send out emails. The machine has sendmail installed. My primary mail server seems to be rejecting the messages. Some research says something isn't configured properly. What do I have to do so the outside world accepts emails from my Asterisk box? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mail Server
Setup the * server to send everything to your mail server. Set the mail server to relay. Can you do a 1-to-1 NAT for the * so the mail server knows it should accept the mail from it, but not from anyone else? Mike Hammett wrote: My primary mail server? What about email destined to domains not under my control. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Scott Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mail Server Tell the mail server to allow relay from the Asterisk box address. Mike Hammett wrote: I need to setup a small mail server on a local network. It only needs SMTP ability as it's just so Asterisk can send out emails. The machine has sendmail installed. My primary mail server seems to be rejecting the messages. Some research says something isn't configured properly. What do I have to do so the outside world accepts emails from my Asterisk box? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Equipment Sales
The WISPA Board agreed to allow used equipment sale postings on the HYPERLINK mailto:wireless@wispa.orgwireless@wispa.org listserv. We encourage paid members of WISPA to list this equipment to other paid members on the HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] listserv first. However, non-members are allowed to use the public listserv for this purpose. Rules are as follows: 1. Only used equipment in good working order will be allowed to be sold on the WISPA listservs. 2. Provide the make and model of the equipment, age and any possible defects that you are aware of in text format. 3. Pictures of the equipment are prohibited unless a link is provided to another server storing these pictures. 4. New equipment listings by vendors are prohibited. New equipment by WISPs that was incorrectly ordered or you do not have use for and cannot be returned will be allowed. 5. All communication by parties interested in the equipment for sale shall be conducted OFFLIST! The listserv is only to introduce the equipment for sale, not the venue in which you conduct your business. 6. WISPA does not in any way warrant any equipment listed on our listservs or take any responsibility for payment terms or lack of payment. 7. WISPA asks that you follow the HYPERLINK http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=3WISPA Code of Ethics when dealing on our listservs, specifically, Article V a and b. 8. Moderation of excessive posting of equipment for sale that leads to complaints from other listserv members will be conducted by the moderator as he sees fit. Excessive shall be defined as more than 4 postings per month by each list subscriber. a. First offense: Private Email Warning b. Second offense: 3 day List suspension c. Third offense: List Expulsion 9. Please respect this venue and other members of the list. Respectfully, Rick Harnish No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mail Server
Through help from people on the lists and then further investigation based on those results, here is what I did. 1) I set the office to a statically assigned IP instead of from the pool. 2) I made an A entry on one of my domains aiur.ics-il.net (where aiur is the machine name). 3) I added aiur.ics-il.net directly after 127.0.0.1 in the /etc/hosts file (copied below). 4) I set the from email address (serveremail) in /etc/asterisk/voicemail.conf to something at the domain I created ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). 5) Presto! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /etc/hosts # Do not remove the following line, or various programs # that require network functionality will fail. 127.0.0.1 aiur.ics-il.net Aiurlocalhost.localdomain localhost ::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6 -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 3:30 PM Subject: [WISPA] Mail Server I need to setup a small mail server on a local network. It only needs SMTP ability as it's just so Asterisk can send out emails. The machine has sendmail installed. My primary mail server seems to be rejecting the messages. Some research says something isn't configured properly. What do I have to do so the outside world accepts emails from my Asterisk box? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mail Server
Since it will be sending mail, you should also set the PTR record to point to the correct name (although if you have a decent DNS management system, it will do that for you) also add that name to your SPF record if you have one. Ryan - Original Message Follows - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mail Server Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:01:19 -0500 Through help from people on the lists and then further investigation based on those results, here is what I did. 1) I set the office to a statically assigned IP instead of from the pool. 2) I made an A entry on one of my domains aiur.ics-il.net (where aiur is the machine name). 3) I added aiur.ics-il.net directly after 127.0.0.1 in the /etc/hosts file (copied below). 4) I set the from email address (serveremail) in /etc/asterisk/voicemail.conf to something at the domain I created ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). 5) Presto! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /etc/hosts # Do not remove the following line, or various programs # that require network functionality will fail. 127.0.0.1 aiur.ics-il.net Aiur localhost.localdomain localhost ::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6 -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 3:30 PM Subject: [WISPA] Mail Server I need to setup a small mail server on a local network. It only needs SMTP ability as it's just so Asterisk can send out emails. The machine has sendmail installed. My primary mail server seems to be rejecting the messages. Some research says something isn't configured properly. What do I have to do so the outside world accepts emails from my Asterisk box? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mail Server
I'll have to see if my upstream can set the PTR or direct requests to me to specify. Will edit the SPF, thanks. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mail Server Since it will be sending mail, you should also set the PTR record to point to the correct name (although if you have a decent DNS management system, it will do that for you) also add that name to your SPF record if you have one. Ryan - Original Message Follows - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mail Server Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:01:19 -0500 Through help from people on the lists and then further investigation based on those results, here is what I did. 1) I set the office to a statically assigned IP instead of from the pool. 2) I made an A entry on one of my domains aiur.ics-il.net (where aiur is the machine name). 3) I added aiur.ics-il.net directly after 127.0.0.1 in the /etc/hosts file (copied below). 4) I set the from email address (serveremail) in /etc/asterisk/voicemail.conf to something at the domain I created ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). 5) Presto! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /etc/hosts # Do not remove the following line, or various programs # that require network functionality will fail. 127.0.0.1 aiur.ics-il.net Aiur localhost.localdomain localhost ::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6 -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 3:30 PM Subject: [WISPA] Mail Server I need to setup a small mail server on a local network. It only needs SMTP ability as it's just so Asterisk can send out emails. The machine has sendmail installed. My primary mail server seems to be rejecting the messages. Some research says something isn't configured properly. What do I have to do so the outside world accepts emails from my Asterisk box? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower install
sounds pretty reasonable. Did you already buy the tower yourself or are they providing everything? -Cameron We are installing a tower (super titian sc 100 200 foot) in east Texas. We have got a bunch of quotes from different companies. We have received between $12,000-$24,000 for complete installation. Is that a normal amount? Mike Goicoechea No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mail Server
It makes me smile to see knowledgeable folks helping some of the rest of us out when we get in a bind and aren't sure about something or the other. Thanks to all of you! This is part of what we are about! Salute! Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 5:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mail Server I'll have to see if my upstream can set the PTR or direct requests to me to specify. Will edit the SPF, thanks. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mail Server Since it will be sending mail, you should also set the PTR record to point to the correct name (although if you have a decent DNS management system, it will do that for you) also add that name to your SPF record if you have one. Ryan - Original Message Follows - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mail Server Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:01:19 -0500 Through help from people on the lists and then further investigation based on those results, here is what I did. 1) I set the office to a statically assigned IP instead of from the pool. 2) I made an A entry on one of my domains aiur.ics-il.net (where aiur is the machine name). 3) I added aiur.ics-il.net directly after 127.0.0.1 in the /etc/hosts file (copied below). 4) I set the from email address (serveremail) in /etc/asterisk/voicemail.conf to something at the domain I created ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). 5) Presto! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /etc/hosts # Do not remove the following line, or various programs # that require network functionality will fail. 127.0.0.1 aiur.ics-il.net Aiur localhost.localdomain localhost ::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6 -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 3:30 PM Subject: [WISPA] Mail Server I need to setup a small mail server on a local network. It only needs SMTP ability as it's just so Asterisk can send out emails. The machine has sendmail installed. My primary mail server seems to be rejecting the messages. Some research says something isn't configured properly. What do I have to do so the outside world accepts emails from my Asterisk box? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower install
We already purchased the tower. Mike Goicoechea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install sounds pretty reasonable. Did you already buy the tower yourself or are they providing everything? -Cameron We are installing a tower (super titian sc 100 200 foot) in east Texas. We have got a bunch of quotes from different companies. We have received between $12,000-$24,000 for complete installation. Is that a normal amount? Mike Goicoechea No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower install
I have paid a similar amount for a 120 foot monopole. - Original Message - From: Mike Goicoechea [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install We already purchased the tower. Mike Goicoechea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install sounds pretty reasonable. Did you already buy the tower yourself or are they providing everything? -Cameron We are installing a tower (super titian sc 100 200 foot) in east Texas. We have got a bunch of quotes from different companies. We have received between $12,000-$24,000 for complete installation. Is that a normal amount? Mike Goicoechea No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] TrangoLink-45 Review
A few weeks back I asked for opinions of the TrangoLink-45 radios. Since then I've installed two pairs and figured I'd share my experiences with the list. Physical design. The antenna and radio housing are solidly built and look like they will last. However, the mounting system is not as well designed as the rest of the radio. First, it is made of zinc plated steel, which I suspect will rust after a while. The mount uses a U-bolt to attach the radio to a pole. This is a problem because it makes it difficult to hold the radio in place and hand-tighten the nuts during installation. Since there is no hoist loop in the radio housing, you can't tie the radio off to the tower and use both hands to tighten the u-bolt. Also, the mount is specced to work with up to 3 diameter poles, but there is no way it will work on anything over 2. The telnet interface for radio configuration is simple and effective. Never having used a Trango radio before, it took me about 30 minutes to be completely comfortable with the radio setup and management interface. SNMP support looks good but I haven't gotten this set up on my network yet. One little plus is the PoE pinout and voltage is compatible with Canopy gear- this radio plugged right into a CTM-1m once the timing pulse was switched off. DFS. The radar avoidance DFS on these radios works by using a separate receiver circuit to compare the instantaneous received power level to a threshold. Anything coming into the receiver port over that threshold is considered a radar event and initiates a channel change. In my case, I had a weather radar tower less than a mile from one of the radios. The tower transmits with an EIRP of 6.9 GW (yes, gigawatts) at 5500 MHz. Emissions outside of the radar's licensed band were enough to trigger DFS sporadically throughout the 5.3 and 5.4 bands. Do a thorough spectrum analysis before deploying these radios or be prepared to spend a lot of time troubleshooting later. Performance. I haven't done thorough testing yet but I'm getting almost zero ARQ retransmissions and the highest modulation mode on my 1/2 mile link, so about 35 Mbps of TCP throughput sounds reasonable. Network issues. #1 is that there appears to be a bug with the new VLAN implementation for the radio's management interfaces. The radios won't respond to any traffic not originating outside of its subnet. My packet sniffer shows pings going into the unit from a machine on the local network segment and one on another network, and replies are only generated for the machine on the local network. Trango engineering is working on the problem. Second, I was getting ethernet errors when connected to a Cisco Catalyst 3548 switch. This was difficult to track down because there are no CRC error counters available in these radios and there is no way to hard-set Ethernet speed and duplex settings. Putting a cheapo netgear unmanaged switch between the Cisco and the Trango eliminated the errors. According to Trango, they cannot implement manual speed and duplex settings due to hardware limitations (wtf?). Anyway, sorry for the manuscript. All in all, decent set of radios for $2000. A little rough around the edges compared to the Orthogons I am used to, but the performance is better and you can't beat the price. Patrick WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower install
Mike, Really depends on your foundation and crane availability where you live. If there are no cranes available you will pay more for a crew with a winch and gin pole. 200' is a safe price for $12-15K. Foundation depends on type of soil, rock, etc. Also accessibility to the area being developed. Make sure whoever you get has insurance and provides you and the property owner with a certificate naming each of you as additional insureds. BTW: If you can't get anyone I'll mobilize a crew to come out and do it TOMORROW for the $24,000! :-) I think you can do better. Good Luck Bob Mike Goicoechea wrote: We are installing a tower (super titian sc 100 200 foot) in east Texas. We have got a bunch of quotes from different companies. We have received between $12,000-$24,000 for complete installation. Is that a normal amount? Mike Goicoechea No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink-45 Review
Thanks for the review Patrick. This message was sent from my Iphone Marty Dougherty CEO Roadstar Internet Inc. 703-554-6620 (office) [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mar 13, 2008, at 10:11 PM, Patrick Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few weeks back I asked for opinions of the TrangoLink-45 radios. Since then I've installed two pairs and figured I'd share my experiences with the list. Physical design. The antenna and radio housing are solidly built and look like they will last. However, the mounting system is not as well designed as the rest of the radio. First, it is made of zinc plated steel, which I suspect will rust after a while. The mount uses a U- bolt to attach the radio to a pole. This is a problem because it makes it difficult to hold the radio in place and hand-tighten the nuts during installation. Since there is no hoist loop in the radio housing, you can't tie the radio off to the tower and use both hands to tighten the u-bolt. Also, the mount is specced to work with up to 3 diameter poles, but there is no way it will work on anything over 2. The telnet interface for radio configuration is simple and effective. Never having used a Trango radio before, it took me about 30 minutes to be completely comfortable with the radio setup and management interface. SNMP support looks good but I haven't gotten this set up on my network yet. One little plus is the PoE pinout and voltage is compatible with Canopy gear- this radio plugged right into a CTM-1m once the timing pulse was switched off. DFS. The radar avoidance DFS on these radios works by using a separate receiver circuit to compare the instantaneous received power level to a threshold. Anything coming into the receiver port over that threshold is considered a radar event and initiates a channel change. In my case, I had a weather radar tower less than a mile from one of the radios. The tower transmits with an EIRP of 6.9 GW (yes, gigawatts) at 5500 MHz. Emissions outside of the radar's licensed band were enough to trigger DFS sporadically throughout the 5.3 and 5.4 bands. Do a thorough spectrum analysis before deploying these radios or be prepared to spend a lot of time troubleshooting later. Performance. I haven't done thorough testing yet but I'm getting almost zero ARQ retransmissions and the highest modulation mode on my 1/2 mile link, so about 35 Mbps of TCP throughput sounds reasonable. Network issues. #1 is that there appears to be a bug with the new VLAN implementation for the radio's management interfaces. The radios won't respond to any traffic not originating outside of its subnet. My packet sniffer shows pings going into the unit from a machine on the local network segment and one on another network, and replies are only generated for the machine on the local network. Trango engineering is working on the problem. Second, I was getting ethernet errors when connected to a Cisco Catalyst 3548 switch. This was difficult to track down because there are no CRC error counters available in these radios and there is no way to hard-set Ethernet speed and duplex settings. Putting a cheapo netgear unmanaged switch between the Cisco and the Trango eliminated the errors. According to Trango, they cannot implement manual speed and duplex settings due to hardware limitations (wtf?). Anyway, sorry for the manuscript. All in all, decent set of radios for $2000. A little rough around the edges compared to the Orthogons I am used to, but the performance is better and you can't beat the price. Patrick --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink-45 Review
Steel housing? Not aluminum or die cast zinc? Is it machined out of billet or folded and welded or what? - Original Message - From: Patrick Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:11 PM Subject: [WISPA] TrangoLink-45 Review A few weeks back I asked for opinions of the TrangoLink-45 radios. Since then I've installed two pairs and figured I'd share my experiences with the list. Physical design. The antenna and radio housing are solidly built and look like they will last. However, the mounting system is not as well designed as the rest of the radio. First, it is made of zinc plated steel, which I suspect will rust after a while. The mount uses a U-bolt to attach the radio to a pole. This is a problem because it makes it difficult to hold the radio in place and hand-tighten the nuts during installation. Since there is no hoist loop in the radio housing, you can't tie the radio off to the tower and use both hands to tighten the u-bolt. Also, the mount is specced to work with up to 3 diameter poles, but there is no way it will work on anything over 2. The telnet interface for radio configuration is simple and effective. Never having used a Trango radio before, it took me about 30 minutes to be completely comfortable with the radio setup and management interface. SNMP support looks good but I haven't gotten this set up on my network yet. One little plus is the PoE pinout and voltage is compatible with Canopy gear- this radio plugged right into a CTM-1m once the timing pulse was switched off. DFS. The radar avoidance DFS on these radios works by using a separate receiver circuit to compare the instantaneous received power level to a threshold. Anything coming into the receiver port over that threshold is considered a radar event and initiates a channel change. In my case, I had a weather radar tower less than a mile from one of the radios. The tower transmits with an EIRP of 6.9 GW (yes, gigawatts) at 5500 MHz. Emissions outside of the radar's licensed band were enough to trigger DFS sporadically throughout the 5.3 and 5.4 bands. Do a thorough spectrum analysis before deploying these radios or be prepared to spend a lot of time troubleshooting later. Performance. I haven't done thorough testing yet but I'm getting almost zero ARQ retransmissions and the highest modulation mode on my 1/2 mile link, so about 35 Mbps of TCP throughput sounds reasonable. Network issues. #1 is that there appears to be a bug with the new VLAN implementation for the radio's management interfaces. The radios won't respond to any traffic not originating outside of its subnet. My packet sniffer shows pings going into the unit from a machine on the local network segment and one on another network, and replies are only generated for the machine on the local network. Trango engineering is working on the problem. Second, I was getting ethernet errors when connected to a Cisco Catalyst 3548 switch. This was difficult to track down because there are no CRC error counters available in these radios and there is no way to hard-set Ethernet speed and duplex settings. Putting a cheapo netgear unmanaged switch between the Cisco and the Trango eliminated the errors. According to Trango, they cannot implement manual speed and duplex settings due to hardware limitations (wtf?). Anyway, sorry for the manuscript. All in all, decent set of radios for $2000. A little rough around the edges compared to the Orthogons I am used to, but the performance is better and you can't beat the price. Patrick WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower install
Mike - what city are you installing this in ? Let me know - we're in the area, I'll check on crane pricing and see what we could do for you. As Bob stated, make sure whoever it is has the proper insurance. Any mistakes or carelessness could cost you bigtime. We're fully equipped. Regards, JohnnyO 337.368.7188 - Original Message - From: Mike Goicoechea [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install We already purchased the tower. Mike Goicoechea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install sounds pretty reasonable. Did you already buy the tower yourself or are they providing everything? -Cameron We are installing a tower (super titian sc 100 200 foot) in east Texas. We have got a bunch of quotes from different companies. We have received between $12,000-$24,000 for complete installation. Is that a normal amount? Mike Goicoechea No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink-45 Review
The antenna radome is some sort of plastic, with an anodized aluminum panel that supports the antenna PCB. The electronics are sandwiched between that aluminum panel and a die cast enclosure. The mounting system is a piece of 1/8 stamped zinc plated steel that is folded 90 degrees. It is also bolted to the aluminum panel. The edges are folded to stiffen it. You can barely see the back of one of these in the center picture here: http://www.trangobroadband.com/im/backhaul_tl45_img_strip_sm.jpg Also, the way they tell you to mount that bracket to the radio, it places a large torsional moment on whatever you have it mounted to when the wind blows. That makes it even more likely to blow out of alignment. I suggest mounting the stamped steel bracket 180 degrees from how they picture it so that the pole the radio is attached to is close to the radio centerline. Chuck McCown - 2 wrote: Steel housing? Not aluminum or die cast zinc? Is it machined out of billet or folded and welded or what? - Original Message - From: Patrick Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:11 PM Subject: [WISPA] TrangoLink-45 Review A few weeks back I asked for opinions of the TrangoLink-45 radios. Since then I've installed two pairs and figured I'd share my experiences with the list. Physical design. The antenna and radio housing are solidly built and look like they will last. However, the mounting system is not as well designed as the rest of the radio. First, it is made of zinc plated steel, which I suspect will rust after a while. The mount uses a U-bolt to attach the radio to a pole. This is a problem because it makes it difficult to hold the radio in place and hand-tighten the nuts during installation. Since there is no hoist loop in the radio housing, you can't tie the radio off to the tower and use both hands to tighten the u-bolt. Also, the mount is specced to work with up to 3 diameter poles, but there is no way it will work on anything over 2. The telnet interface for radio configuration is simple and effective. Never having used a Trango radio before, it took me about 30 minutes to be completely comfortable with the radio setup and management interface. SNMP support looks good but I haven't gotten this set up on my network yet. One little plus is the PoE pinout and voltage is compatible with Canopy gear- this radio plugged right into a CTM-1m once the timing pulse was switched off. DFS. The radar avoidance DFS on these radios works by using a separate receiver circuit to compare the instantaneous received power level to a threshold. Anything coming into the receiver port over that threshold is considered a radar event and initiates a channel change. In my case, I had a weather radar tower less than a mile from one of the radios. The tower transmits with an EIRP of 6.9 GW (yes, gigawatts) at 5500 MHz. Emissions outside of the radar's licensed band were enough to trigger DFS sporadically throughout the 5.3 and 5.4 bands. Do a thorough spectrum analysis before deploying these radios or be prepared to spend a lot of time troubleshooting later. Performance. I haven't done thorough testing yet but I'm getting almost zero ARQ retransmissions and the highest modulation mode on my 1/2 mile link, so about 35 Mbps of TCP throughput sounds reasonable. Network issues. #1 is that there appears to be a bug with the new VLAN implementation for the radio's management interfaces. The radios won't respond to any traffic not originating outside of its subnet. My packet sniffer shows pings going into the unit from a machine on the local network segment and one on another network, and replies are only generated for the machine on the local network. Trango engineering is working on the problem. Second, I was getting ethernet errors when connected to a Cisco Catalyst 3548 switch. This was difficult to track down because there are no CRC error counters available in these radios and there is no way to hard-set Ethernet speed and duplex settings. Putting a cheapo netgear unmanaged switch between the Cisco and the Trango eliminated the errors. According to Trango, they cannot implement manual speed and duplex settings due to hardware limitations (wtf?). Anyway, sorry for the manuscript. All in all, decent set of radios for $2000. A little rough around the edges compared to the Orthogons I am used to, but the performance is better and you can't beat the price. Patrick WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower install
Is it me or does this price sound way to high? We did a 130' self supporter (Rohn SSV) and our pricing was as follows: $2500 used tower $1300 contractor (backhoe and dug foundation) $500 rebar $1000 concreate $300 base bolt kit 6 months free internet to crane owner We own our own skid loader and had a flatbed semi available. Total cost was around $6000 including the tower but I did some of the work myself. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install I have paid a similar amount for a 120 foot monopole. - Original Message - From: Mike Goicoechea [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install We already purchased the tower. Mike Goicoechea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install sounds pretty reasonable. Did you already buy the tower yourself or are they providing everything? -Cameron We are installing a tower (super titian sc 100 200 foot) in east Texas. We have got a bunch of quotes from different companies. We have received between $12,000-$24,000 for complete installation. Is that a normal amount? Mike Goicoechea No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower install
Kurt - you got off WAY CHEAP.. The company asking is buying new steel and you shouldn't have someone that isn't experienced with putting up 200ft towers on the job-site Typical pricing for a tower installation of ANY height is $60-$90 per foot. That does not include foundation costs That includes the tower crew showing up and installing the tower. If anyone out there is able to get the brother-in-law deals you got... More power to them. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install Is it me or does this price sound way to high? We did a 130' self supporter (Rohn SSV) and our pricing was as follows: $2500 used tower $1300 contractor (backhoe and dug foundation) $500 rebar $1000 concreate $300 base bolt kit 6 months free internet to crane owner We own our own skid loader and had a flatbed semi available. Total cost was around $6000 including the tower but I did some of the work myself. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install I have paid a similar amount for a 120 foot monopole. - Original Message - From: Mike Goicoechea [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install We already purchased the tower. Mike Goicoechea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install sounds pretty reasonable. Did you already buy the tower yourself or are they providing everything? -Cameron We are installing a tower (super titian sc 100 200 foot) in east Texas. We have got a bunch of quotes from different companies. We have received between $12,000-$24,000 for complete installation. Is that a normal amount? Mike Goicoechea No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless
Re: [WISPA] tower install
Johnny, The last tower I bought came with specs/instructions.LOL Joe Laura Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install Kurt - you got off WAY CHEAP.. The company asking is buying new steel and you shouldn't have someone that isn't experienced with putting up 200ft towers on the job-site Typical pricing for a tower installation of ANY height is $60-$90 per foot. That does not include foundation costs That includes the tower crew showing up and installing the tower. If anyone out there is able to get the brother-in-law deals you got... More power to them. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install Is it me or does this price sound way to high? We did a 130' self supporter (Rohn SSV) and our pricing was as follows: $2500 used tower $1300 contractor (backhoe and dug foundation) $500 rebar $1000 concreate $300 base bolt kit 6 months free internet to crane owner We own our own skid loader and had a flatbed semi available. Total cost was around $6000 including the tower but I did some of the work myself. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install I have paid a similar amount for a 120 foot monopole. - Original Message - From: Mike Goicoechea [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install We already purchased the tower. Mike Goicoechea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install sounds pretty reasonable. Did you already buy the tower yourself or are they providing everything? -Cameron We are installing a tower (super titian sc 100 200 foot) in east Texas. We have got a bunch of quotes from different companies. We have received between $12,000-$24,000 for complete installation. Is that a normal amount? Mike Goicoechea No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink-45 Review
Patrick, We have been very happy with our Tlink45s. I felt you gave some excellent feedback i nyour review. A couple comments... Do a thorough spectrum analysis before deploying these radios or be prepared to spend a lot of time troubleshooting later. How do you do your through analysis for tracking things like Radars that Hop arround? Other than generic advice like buy a real analyzer, and special techniques? Did you find the Trango Spectrum analyzer tool accurate enough to give you what you need to find? Anything coming into the receiver port over that threshold is considered a radar event and initiates a channel change. That could use a bit more clarification. Are you saying that anything that comes in loudenough on your used channel creates an event? Or are you saying anything. I'm mentioning that jsut because Trangos have pretty good filters built-in, so I would assume that maybe just noise over a certain level near the 5.x band could do it? This is a problem because it makes it difficult to hold the radio in place and hand-tighten the nuts during installation. Yes, I agree that is a pain. But incomparision, that is a design flaw shared by many common brand radios and antennas. but there is no way it will work on anything over 2. Not sure why you say that. All our Tlinks are mounted to poles that are wider diameter than 2. (Are yours shipping with short ubolts or something?) Cisco Catalyst 3548 switch. This was difficult to track down because there are no CRC error counters available in these radios and there is no way to hard-set Ethernet speed and duplex settings. Putting a cheapo netgear unmanaged switch between the Cisco and the Trango eliminated the errors. According to Trango, they cannot implement manual speed and duplex settings due to hardware limitations (wtf?). I agree, its disappointing that the Tlink don't have manually setable ports and error stats, and it would be useful to have that for many troubleshooting reasons... The flaw is actually in the Cisco hardware. Cisco is known for its common failure to function with other ANEG third party routers. With Cisco, its not always fixable by putting a cheap unmanaged switch in between either. We just ran into it with a 3550 this week. After trying, 1 managed swithes hard set, and 4 brands of auto-neg unmanaged switches, we finally had to ditch the idea, and connect the Cisco to a Linux box. Our solution is not to use Cisco Switches, the Atlases are one of a kind, and a value we are not willing to give up. This is also solvable by having access to the Cisco switch, to check teh CRCs from the Cisco side. OF course that only works if you are in control of the Cisco to acces it. That experience above was not related to connecting a Trango. Were you able to get the Tlink to work with the Cisco, by hard setting the Cisco to a specific configuration? Its not a big deal IF a workign configuration can be discovered. Whats a problem is a solution that won't survive a reboot. For example with the ViaRhine MT cards, after a Atlas reboots, the Rhine NIC needs to be reset to autoneg the appropriate speed. Again a problem with the NIC not the radio. But it was annoying. But if I can hard set a port, and that will work, after a reboot all is good, then it jsut becomes a documentation issue. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Marty Dougherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLink-45 Review Thanks for the review Patrick. This message was sent from my Iphone Marty Dougherty CEO Roadstar Internet Inc. 703-554-6620 (office) [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mar 13, 2008, at 10:11 PM, Patrick Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few weeks back I asked for opinions of the TrangoLink-45 radios. Since then I've installed two pairs and figured I'd share my experiences with the list. Physical design. The antenna and radio housing are solidly built and look like they will last. However, the mounting system is not as well designed as the rest of the radio. First, it is made of zinc plated steel, which I suspect will rust after a while. The mount uses a U- bolt to attach the radio to a pole. This is a problem because it makes it difficult to hold the radio in place and hand-tighten the nuts during installation. Since there is no hoist loop in the radio housing, you can't tie the radio off to the tower and use both hands to tighten the u-bolt. Also, the mount is specced to work with up to 3 diameter poles, but there is no way it will work on anything over 2. The telnet interface for radio configuration is simple and effective. Never having used a Trango radio before, it took me about 30 minutes to be completely comfortable with the radio setup and management interface. SNMP support looks
Re: [WISPA] tower install
HAHAHA thanks for the offer Bob. The crew I am leaning toward is a very respected group as I do my research. They will be using a gin pole and winch. That is also good to know for the $60-90 per foot. I knew it was around a buck a foot for climbers but didn’t know about construction. We had done a ton of small 25g towers but we are hiring this out for liability and solid professionalism. We thought we would have to pay for it but didn’t think there would be a 10k difference in professionals. Mike Goicoechea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install Mike, Really depends on your foundation and crane availability where you live. If there are no cranes available you will pay more for a crew with a winch and gin pole. 200' is a safe price for $12-15K. Foundation depends on type of soil, rock, etc. Also accessibility to the area being developed. Make sure whoever you get has insurance and provides you and the property owner with a certificate naming each of you as additional insureds. BTW: If you can't get anyone I'll mobilize a crew to come out and do it TOMORROW for the $24,000! :-) I think you can do better. Good Luck Bob Mike Goicoechea wrote: We are installing a tower (super titian sc 100 200 foot) in east Texas. We have got a bunch of quotes from different companies. We have received between $12,000-$24,000 for complete installation. Is that a normal amount? Mike Goicoechea No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower install
Mike - Give me a call - I am wide awake. JohnnyO 800-774-0320 - Original Message - From: Mike Goicoechea [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install HAHAHA thanks for the offer Bob. The crew I am leaning toward is a very respected group as I do my research. They will be using a gin pole and winch. That is also good to know for the $60-90 per foot. I knew it was around a buck a foot for climbers but didn’t know about construction. We had done a ton of small 25g towers but we are hiring this out for liability and solid professionalism. We thought we would have to pay for it but didn’t think there would be a 10k difference in professionals. Mike Goicoechea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install Mike, Really depends on your foundation and crane availability where you live. If there are no cranes available you will pay more for a crew with a winch and gin pole. 200' is a safe price for $12-15K. Foundation depends on type of soil, rock, etc. Also accessibility to the area being developed. Make sure whoever you get has insurance and provides you and the property owner with a certificate naming each of you as additional insureds. BTW: If you can't get anyone I'll mobilize a crew to come out and do it TOMORROW for the $24,000! :-) I think you can do better. Good Luck Bob Mike Goicoechea wrote: We are installing a tower (super titian sc 100 200 foot) in east Texas. We have got a bunch of quotes from different companies. We have received between $12,000-$24,000 for complete installation. Is that a normal amount? Mike Goicoechea No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower install
Heres a link to some pictures I took when we picked up the tower and poured the concrete. http://www.wavelinc.com/tower.html Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 12:36 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install Kurt - you got off WAY CHEAP.. The company asking is buying new steel and you shouldn't have someone that isn't experienced with putting up 200ft towers on the job-site Typical pricing for a tower installation of ANY height is $60-$90 per foot. That does not include foundation costs That includes the tower crew showing up and installing the tower. If anyone out there is able to get the brother-in-law deals you got... More power to them. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install Is it me or does this price sound way to high? We did a 130' self supporter (Rohn SSV) and our pricing was as follows: $2500 used tower $1300 contractor (backhoe and dug foundation) $500 rebar $1000 concreate $300 base bolt kit 6 months free internet to crane owner We own our own skid loader and had a flatbed semi available. Total cost was around $6000 including the tower but I did some of the work myself. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install I have paid a similar amount for a 120 foot monopole. - Original Message - From: Mike Goicoechea [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install We already purchased the tower. Mike Goicoechea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 7:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower install sounds pretty reasonable. Did you already buy the tower yourself or are they providing everything? -Cameron We are installing a tower (super titian sc 100 200 foot) in east Texas. We have got a bunch of quotes from different companies. We have received between $12,000-$24,000 for complete installation. Is that a normal amount? Mike Goicoechea No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
