[WISPA] Multiple DNS implementations vulnerable to cache poisoning
Thought the community should be aware of this one. A rather lengthy blog detailing the exact mechanics of DNS cache poisoning got leaked yesterday. -Eric http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/security/showArticle.jhtml? articleID=209401195 http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113 The Domain Name System (DNS) is responsible for translating host names to IP addresses (and vice versa) and is critical for the normal operation of internet-connected systems. DNS cache poisoning (sometimes referred to as cache pollution) is an attack technique that allows an attacker to introduce forged DNS information into the cache of a caching nameserver. DNS cache poisoning is not a new concept; in fact, there are published articles that describe a number of inherent deficiencies in the DNS protocol and defects in common DNS implementations that facilitate DNS cache poisoning. The following are examples of these deficiencies and defects: Eric Albert Application Engineer Alvarion, Inc. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] A glorious victory
You rock!!! It isn't often when you are able to out do the planning dept. Crow...Man...Crow!!! --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] A glorious victory To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 12:00 AM lol coolness marlon - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: [WISPA] A glorious victory Just got back from a county commission meeting. We appealed conditions placed on a conditional use permit for a new tower. They wanted us to provide a full acre of fall protection clearance around the tower (leased land). That acre would be conveyed to the county. They wanted the parcel fenced, and landscaped. And the provision that no other development could ever be done there. This was for a 100 foot lattice tower in the middle of a cow pasture. I argued equal protection, I showed were they have never made us do this any other location. I told them I wanted the cows to graze under the tower. We argued telecom act and the inapplicability of the ordinance cited. I told them that they should require the local power company to have a clear fall zone around every power pole. The commissioners struck all the conditions. The planning guy was trying at the end to insert elements from the contract between us and the rancher. I objected to anything from that contract being read into the record for that proceeding. They shut him down on that too. The planner is a new guy, just graduated from college in May as a planner or some such thing. Our CUP was one of the first things he did. I tried to reason with him early in the process but he had to strut his stuff. So his stuff got rolled into a very tight tube and forcefully hammered into an orfice. I think I will go out on the back porch and crow a little. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
That is what they make Dragonwave for . - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal Delivered to your door, no matter where that door is? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is pretty high compared to the good deals we are seeing. We have BW from $6 to $14/meg in this area. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
heh, yes, but you're not going to cost effectively get bandwidth from a downtown carrier hotel 60 miles away through suburbia for that difference. Well, at least not around here. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is what they make Dragonwave for . - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal Delivered to your door, no matter where that door is? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is pretty high compared to the good deals we are seeing. We have BW from $6 to $14/meg in this area. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
Delivered to your door, no matter where that door is? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is pretty high compared to the good deals we are seeing. We have BW from $6 to $14/meg in this area. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
We have 60 mile Dragonwave systems out here. Saving 2-3K per month pays off a Dragonwave pretty quickly. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal heh, yes, but you're not going to cost effectively get bandwidth from a downtown carrier hotel 60 miles away through suburbia for that difference. Well, at least not around here. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is what they make Dragonwave for . - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal Delivered to your door, no matter where that door is? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is pretty high compared to the good deals we are seeing. We have BW from $6 to $14/meg in this area. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?
Marlon K. Schafer wrote: We have an official definition of a wisp. It was part of what we had to define in order for a person/company to be a principal member. Without knowing what Jack's up to, I imagine the more important part would be how does the FCC define a WISP. They probably have some big flowery thing that boils down to someone that sends in 477, where more than X percent of their customers are in the fixed-wireless category. X is probably higher than 50%, but beyond that it's all guessing. Anyone know whether the FCC makes available a more complete breakdown of the 477 data, beyond the one really simple thirty-page report they put out twice a year? Data broken down by a state or even ZIP level. Something that will make Excel weep. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
That is pretty high compared to the good deals we are seeing. We have BW from $6 to $14/meg in this area. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
Single or multiple hop(s)? Is a 60 mile single hop possible? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal We have 60 mile Dragonwave systems out here. Saving 2-3K per month pays off a Dragonwave pretty quickly. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal heh, yes, but you're not going to cost effectively get bandwidth from a downtown carrier hotel 60 miles away through suburbia for that difference. Well, at least not around here. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is what they make Dragonwave for . - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal Delivered to your door, no matter where that door is? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is pretty high compared to the good deals we are seeing. We have BW from $6 to $14/meg in this area. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?
As I recall, I did check with them. They didn't have anything specific. That's one of the reasons that we had to come up with a definition. marlon - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ? Marlon K. Schafer wrote: We have an official definition of a wisp. It was part of what we had to define in order for a person/company to be a principal member. Without knowing what Jack's up to, I imagine the more important part would be how does the FCC define a WISP. They probably have some big flowery thing that boils down to someone that sends in 477, where more than X percent of their customers are in the fixed-wireless category. X is probably higher than 50%, but beyond that it's all guessing. Anyone know whether the FCC makes available a more complete breakdown of the 477 data, beyond the one really simple thirty-page report they put out twice a year? Data broken down by a state or even ZIP level. Something that will make Excel weep. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
With their 11GHz system it is. We use Harris for some long hops like this too. But it must be pure LOS. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal Single or multiple hop(s)? Is a 60 mile single hop possible? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal We have 60 mile Dragonwave systems out here. Saving 2-3K per month pays off a Dragonwave pretty quickly. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal heh, yes, but you're not going to cost effectively get bandwidth from a downtown carrier hotel 60 miles away through suburbia for that difference. Well, at least not around here. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is what they make Dragonwave for . - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal Delivered to your door, no matter where that door is? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is pretty high compared to the good deals we are seeing. We have BW from $6 to $14/meg in this area. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. Who is the bandwidth with? I think I heard mention of this few months back. The 100m loop was from ATT but I do not believe the bandwidth was. Sales guy was not very responsive to anymore questions when I told him we just signed 1 year term elsewhere. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PacWireless POE
I buy the little black rectangular injectors... Generally use Titan Wireless for them, and have been buying table top or laptop style power supplies - the kind with two cords :) I have started using them only for the odd setups where I need more power. I have had only ONE failure, and that was one where the property owner moved some stuff around and water ended up trickling down the ethernet into the injector and it just plain ate the connections up completely. If you buy at least 20 or so at a time, they give you a slight break in the price - which is somewhere around 5 b ucks. I've had several bad white half-moon or triangular shaped white injectors. These have an indicator LED on them. I've actually run just over a full amp continuously for years over POE. Works fine. But Streakwave provides a lot of my stuff and doesn't sell them, so I have limited my alternatives just to those high power situations. Streakwave's 2 day ground from me, and that's about the only full line supplier that close. I hate waiting for 3-5 days for ground UPS... :( Deliberant at least used to have some nice high power 48 and 24 volt PSU's, I bought a few not long ago. I don't recall the exact numbers, but I know that the 48's were well past the 18 watts or whatever it is the PW units put out. These are handy for powering mini-itx systems, for instance. Speaking of that, mini-box.com has some of the best dc-dc ATX PSU's I've used anywhere. They're microscopic, light, and very efficient. And no failures in years. I've also bought PSU's from Jameco. Not always real cheap, but Iv'e gotten decent stuff from them. Since converting from WRAP's to mostly WAR-1 CPE, I have had less PSU issues, as it seems that the 48 volt stuff is less sensitive or something... insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PacWireless POE What is your other solution? I haven't had too many problems, but we do occasionally have the POEs go bad so I'm interested in other options. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use them occaisionally and find they work ok. I once ran a box on them that ran them close to full power, and it fried them within 2 weeks. I went through two of them rapid fire before I found a different solution. Other than that, they've been good for me. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Motorola Canopy User Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:41 AM Subject: [WISPA] PacWireless POE Has anyone used the PacWireless 48v POE injectors? I hear they also provide surge protection? The good the bad, the ugly? -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 5.8 GHz 11a over water
I'm planning PtP and PtMP shots across some water (these are for redundancy, not the primary links). The longest shot is about 4 mi. Is there anything I have to worry about (other than a ship messing up my LOS) with 5.8 GHz going over water? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8 GHz 11a over water
rereflectionsions Rogelio wrote: I'm planning PtP and PtMP shots across some water (these are for redundancy, not the primary links). The longest shot is about 4 mi. Is there anything I have to worry about (other than a ship messing up my LOS) with 5.8 GHz going over water? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs Vendor-Neutral Wireless Design-Training-Troubleshooting-Consulting FCC License # PG-12-25133 Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger Phone 818-227-4220 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nanostations
Has anyone on the list noticed on the 5.x nanos, that when selecting 10 Mhz channels, that they only line up in the center of the channel, not like the Star OS base AP, that can slide back and forth to the edges. Are we missing something...what are you guys doing in a crowded environment with these? Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field
Having a competitor use the same upload and download ratios and similar GPS settings will yes, make it so operators can coexist without the issues of interference. Jeff Booher Channel Manager, North America www.apertonet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7: 206-455-4950 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:51 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field John, From what I understand all manufactures are required to use the same GPS sync, so all WiMax gear with the appropriate timing settings equal can be timed together. Apparently the FCC is requiring it for the equipment to be certified. Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field I would disagree. WiMAX should be a goal for most WISPs to get into their networks over the next 1-3 years. Why??? Roaming!!! It will be the real deal and the WISP market, if they do the right things, will be able to setup roaming agreements to exist with each other all over the USA. CPE will be available in all sorts of devices between 2.3 and 3.8 GHz and yes 3.65 falls in that window. Device frequency scanning will be dictated by availabilty. So if the WISP Market, small and large, build compatable 3.65 networks with viable roaming agreements with the right service flows everyone could be happy. Keep in mind the right things need to fall in place for this to happen. Hurdles... -CPE that really are interoperable and in many types of devices. -Base Station RF in a cellular sence. That equals build outs with competitive priced Base stations in mobile mind set. -Base stations from different manufactureers that can GPS sync with each other so UL/DL ratios can co exist in a given area. To my knowledge this does not exist yet but would be critical to help with interference in the 3.65 GHz band. The WiMAX forum needs to make sure this does exist between base stations along with the interoperability standards they are developing. The GPS peice may exist but I have yet to see in in the standerds. Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: 3-dB Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field Mike I hate to say it but I don't think WiMax is intended for the average WISP... lots of carrier grade functionality that the WISP market doesn't need, but really drives up the price (I think its supposed to do 6 9's for availability?) It sucks that its going to limit the WISP's with small customers bases Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field Which is not your average WISP... -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jeff Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field Brian, Depends on many factors. The price point of 10k per sector is usually assuming you are talking about purchasing 1-6 sectors. Most of the MFR's are able to and willing to come down in price considerably when frame orders or larger deployments are taken into consideration. Best Regards, Jeff Booher Channel Manager, North America www.apertonet.com http://www.apertonet.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7: 206-455-4950 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or work product for the sole use of the intended
Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field
Also I forgot- frame size should be the same as well. For example, 10msec frames vs 5msec Jeff Booher Channel Manager, North America www.apertonet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7: 206-455-4950 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Booher Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 12:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field Having a competitor use the same upload and download ratios and similar GPS settings will yes, make it so operators can coexist without the issues of interference. Jeff Booher Channel Manager, North America www.apertonet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7: 206-455-4950 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:51 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field John, From what I understand all manufactures are required to use the same GPS sync, so all WiMax gear with the appropriate timing settings equal can be timed together. Apparently the FCC is requiring it for the equipment to be certified. Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field I would disagree. WiMAX should be a goal for most WISPs to get into their networks over the next 1-3 years. Why??? Roaming!!! It will be the real deal and the WISP market, if they do the right things, will be able to setup roaming agreements to exist with each other all over the USA. CPE will be available in all sorts of devices between 2.3 and 3.8 GHz and yes 3.65 falls in that window. Device frequency scanning will be dictated by availabilty. So if the WISP Market, small and large, build compatable 3.65 networks with viable roaming agreements with the right service flows everyone could be happy. Keep in mind the right things need to fall in place for this to happen. Hurdles... -CPE that really are interoperable and in many types of devices. -Base Station RF in a cellular sence. That equals build outs with competitive priced Base stations in mobile mind set. -Base stations from different manufactureers that can GPS sync with each other so UL/DL ratios can co exist in a given area. To my knowledge this does not exist yet but would be critical to help with interference in the 3.65 GHz band. The WiMAX forum needs to make sure this does exist between base stations along with the interoperability standards they are developing. The GPS peice may exist but I have yet to see in in the standerds. Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: 3-dB Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field Mike I hate to say it but I don't think WiMax is intended for the average WISP... lots of carrier grade functionality that the WISP market doesn't need, but really drives up the price (I think its supposed to do 6 9's for availability?) It sucks that its going to limit the WISP's with small customers bases Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field Which is not your average WISP... -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jeff
Re: [WISPA] Nanostations
Hi Chuck, Need to put the new AirOS 3.0 firmware on the NS5s and they will work as expected. Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] CHUCK PROFITO wrote: Has anyone on the list noticed on the 5.x nanos, that when selecting 10 Mhz channels, that they only line up in the center of the channel, not like the Star OS base AP, that can slide back and forth to the edges. Are we missing something...what are you guys doing in a crowded environment with these? Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
ah. I figured you'd need 6 GHz. IIRC, even from the top of the Sears Tower, I'd still need a tower 50' taller than I currently have access to out here. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal With their 11GHz system it is. We use Harris for some long hops like this too. But it must be pure LOS. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal Single or multiple hop(s)? Is a 60 mile single hop possible? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal We have 60 mile Dragonwave systems out here. Saving 2-3K per month pays off a Dragonwave pretty quickly. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal heh, yes, but you're not going to cost effectively get bandwidth from a downtown carrier hotel 60 miles away through suburbia for that difference. Well, at least not around here. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is what they make Dragonwave for . - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal Delivered to your door, no matter where that door is? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is pretty high compared to the good deals we are seeing. We have BW from $6 to $14/meg in this area. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
Well, Atlanta isn't in LATA 358 ;-) (as I know you're well aware), but the IP is from Global Crossing (who just upgraded their Atlantic circuit). -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. Who is the bandwidth with? I think I heard mention of this few months back. The 100m loop was from ATT but I do not believe the bandwidth was. Sales guy was not very responsive to anymore questions when I told him we just signed 1 year term elsewhere. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
Well, Atlanta isn't in LATA 358 ;-) (as I know you're well aware), but the IP is from Global Crossing (who just upgraded their Atlantic circuit). -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. Who is the bandwidth with? I think I heard mention of this few months back. The 100m loop was from ATT but I do not believe the bandwidth was. Sales guy was not very responsive to anymore questions when I told him we just signed 1 year term elsewhere. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
You need to move to areas that have mountains... - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal ah. I figured you'd need 6 GHz. IIRC, even from the top of the Sears Tower, I'd still need a tower 50' taller than I currently have access to out here. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal With their 11GHz system it is. We use Harris for some long hops like this too. But it must be pure LOS. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal Single or multiple hop(s)? Is a 60 mile single hop possible? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal We have 60 mile Dragonwave systems out here. Saving 2-3K per month pays off a Dragonwave pretty quickly. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal heh, yes, but you're not going to cost effectively get bandwidth from a downtown carrier hotel 60 miles away through suburbia for that difference. Well, at least not around here. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is what they make Dragonwave for . - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal Delivered to your door, no matter where that door is? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is pretty high compared to the good deals we are seeing. We have BW from $6 to $14/meg in this area. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
We have 11 Trango PTP's, a mix of 5030's and 5010's and they are all rock solid. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal You need to move to areas that have mountains... - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal ah. I figured you'd need 6 GHz. IIRC, even from the top of the Sears Tower, I'd still need a tower 50' taller than I currently have access to out here. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal With their 11GHz system it is. We use Harris for some long hops like this too. But it must be pure LOS. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal Single or multiple hop(s)? Is a 60 mile single hop possible? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal We have 60 mile Dragonwave systems out here. Saving 2-3K per month pays off a Dragonwave pretty quickly. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal heh, yes, but you're not going to cost effectively get bandwidth from a downtown carrier hotel 60 miles away through suburbia for that difference. Well, at least not around here. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is what they make Dragonwave for . - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal Delivered to your door, no matter where that door is? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is pretty high compared to the good deals we are seeing. We have BW from $6 to $14/meg in this area. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
Sorry - replied to the wrong thread __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal We have 11 Trango PTP's, a mix of 5030's and 5010's and they are all rock solid. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal You need to move to areas that have mountains... - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal ah. I figured you'd need 6 GHz. IIRC, even from the top of the Sears Tower, I'd still need a tower 50' taller than I currently have access to out here. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal With their 11GHz system it is. We use Harris for some long hops like this too. But it must be pure LOS. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal Single or multiple hop(s)? Is a 60 mile single hop possible? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal We have 60 mile Dragonwave systems out here. Saving 2-3K per month pays off a Dragonwave pretty quickly. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal heh, yes, but you're not going to cost effectively get bandwidth from a downtown carrier hotel 60 miles away through suburbia for that difference. Well, at least not around here. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is what they make Dragonwave for . - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal Delivered to your door, no matter where that door is? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is pretty high compared to the good deals we are seeing. We have BW from $6 to $14/meg in this area. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
I am south in 618-244. I have ATT as my LEC though. Any idea if that is available here also? If yes then that is the best deal I have seen in this area by a factor of 2. Scriv On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
Unfortunately, it does not apply there. I'm sitting at $8250 for 100 megs from KDL here in DeKalb, best offer yet. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal I am south in 618-244. I have ATT as my LEC though. Any idea if that is available here also? If yes then that is the best deal I have seen in this area by a factor of 2. Scriv On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
We have 60 mile Dragonwave systems out here. Saving 2-3K per month pays off a Dragonwave pretty quickly. How many Dragonwave hops? How much latency does it add in the end? We looked at backhauling out of a metro area for our last upgrade. Would have cut prices in half. In the end we did not own a site quite close enough to the metro area we needed to be in. Renting space was bit pricey. Then after 4 hops just to get it back here the latency was going to add up. I also figured in adding some very critical to maintain hops a long ways from home. In 6 months when contracts are half up will look at options again though. Of course it took 7 months to install one of our new DS3's. The other one we are sitting at 5 months and I keep hearing it will probably be tomorrow. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
On Jul 24, 2008, at 6:53 PM, Matt wrote: We have 60 mile Dragonwave systems out here. Saving 2-3K per month pays off a Dragonwave pretty quickly. How many Dragonwave hops? How much latency does it add in the end? We have done several 70 mile 2 hop backhauls with a variety of radios. Most have a RTT of 5ms. We looked at backhauling out of a metro area for our last upgrade. Would have cut prices in half. In the end we did not own a site quite close enough to the metro area we needed to be in. Renting space was bit pricey. Then after 4 hops just to get it back here the latency was going to add up. I also figured in adding some very critical to maintain hops a long ways from home. You are not alone. I think you'll find that working with an existing operating in the metro area is going to get you a much better deal. The existing operator already has access to cheap bandwidth as well as existing wireless colocation sites. -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] mancu
I don't recall seeing a payment for him. How is he paying. I never saw anything that said he subscribed. he should have 30 days since his subscription. Original Message Subject:To Jim Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:14:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole:Manciu Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim: I was checking my email for the invitation you said that was sent. There still is no invite from Link Tech and I was just writing to double check and make sure that you have the correct email address for me. I would have really liked to attend the session today. I hope that the invitation for tomorrow can be sent. I was also wondering, since I was unable to attend the session today, if I would still have 4 more sessions before we have to pay again. I just want to make sure that I can still complete all the classes so I can take the certification test in 6 months. I will be checking periodically for the invitation for tomorrows session. Thanks once again. ~Nicole *_Manciu Communications_* My direct telephone number is 616.799.4819 Toll Free 866.362.6248 P.O. Box 1072 Grand Rapids, MI 49501-1072 www.manciucommunications.com http://www.manciucommunications.com/ -- -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
Chuck, does an ILEC have to be registered in every state to get wholesale rates or only the state they operate in? Got a dumbfounded idea up my sleeve. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:48:06 -0600 That is pretty high compared to the good deals we are seeing. We have BW from $6 to $14/meg in this area. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
Mike, Excuse me for being dumb here, but you had restrictions on your post: The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. Chuck is quoting maybe...something different. I know he is not in LATA 358. And I would most definatley bet he is not using ATT as an ILEC(since he is one). Are you guys comparing apples to apples? Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:01:19 -0500 Delivered to your door, no matter where that door is? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is pretty high compared to the good deals we are seeing. We have BW from $6 to $14/meg in this area. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
Since they are full duplex, they really don't add latency. - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal We have 60 mile Dragonwave systems out here. Saving 2-3K per month pays off a Dragonwave pretty quickly. How many Dragonwave hops? How much latency does it add in the end? We looked at backhauling out of a metro area for our last upgrade. Would have cut prices in half. In the end we did not own a site quite close enough to the metro area we needed to be in. Renting space was bit pricey. Then after 4 hops just to get it back here the latency was going to add up. I also figured in adding some very critical to maintain hops a long ways from home. In 6 months when contracts are half up will look at options again though. Of course it took 7 months to install one of our new DS3's. The other one we are sitting at 5 months and I keep hearing it will probably be tomorrow. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
Not really sure of the question. The rates below are what our WISP gets. There is no benefit to being an ILEC or CLEC as far as I know. Our ILEC buys bandwidth from our WISP. Trunks for regular telephone calls are not charged for by anyone as it is all settled by minutes of use. - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal Chuck, does an ILEC have to be registered in every state to get wholesale rates or only the state they operate in? Got a dumbfounded idea up my sleeve. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:48:06 -0600 That is pretty high compared to the good deals we are seeing. We have BW from $6 to $14/meg in this area. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
Yes, Utah. Level 3 and others. - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal Mike, Excuse me for being dumb here, but you had restrictions on your post: The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. Chuck is quoting maybe...something different. I know he is not in LATA 358. And I would most definatley bet he is not using ATT as an ILEC(since he is one). Are you guys comparing apples to apples? Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:01:19 -0500 Delivered to your door, no matter where that door is? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal That is pretty high compared to the good deals we are seeing. We have BW from $6 to $14/meg in this area. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal While searching for pipes for myself, I found a great deal on bandwidth. The requirements are that you're in LATA 358 and have ATT as your LEC. If you're not sure, let me know and I'll check for you, but it's up to say 60 miles from Chicago in IL and IN. There are always variables and details, but we're looking at under $4k for 100 megs delivered. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Cat5/PoE grounding on tower
We're installing our equipment on a new tower that is very nice clean. There are several providers in the building, and installation is professional. All coax is installed using the proper waveguide brackets, standoffs, etc. All coaxes are grounded before after they enter the building. The problem is that I want to use PoE instead of coax up the tower. I'm looking for a recommendation on what products and/or techniques to use to accomplish this... There will be an outdoor box on the walking platform where we will install our equipment, and about 6 cat5's going up the tower to that box, then into the building at the base. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
I think you mean clec. ILEC is people like att or verizon. Clec is all the upstarts. Though I could be missing something here. Charles Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field
I think we should give Jeff some credit...he is sorta trolling...but at least he is giving us the information we need! I respect that when I am looking at 3.65 stuff. I have not heard many other 3.65 MFG's chime in. I am really undecided in the matter...but a coexistent of MFG's would solve my dilemma really fast! Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Jeff Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:40:21 -0700 Also I forgot- frame size should be the same as well. For example, 10msec frames vs 5msec Jeff Booher Channel Manager, North America www.apertonet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7: 206-455-4950 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Booher Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 12:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field Having a competitor use the same upload and download ratios and similar GPS settings will yes, make it so operators can coexist without the issues of interference. Jeff Booher Channel Manager, North America www.apertonet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7: 206-455-4950 This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:51 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field John, From what I understand all manufactures are required to use the same GPS sync, so all WiMax gear with the appropriate timing settings equal can be timed together. Apparently the FCC is requiring it for the equipment to be certified. Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rock Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field I would disagree. WiMAX should be a goal for most WISPs to get into their networks over the next 1-3 years. Why??? Roaming!!! It will be the real deal and the WISP market, if they do the right things, will be able to setup roaming agreements to exist with each other all over the USA. CPE will be available in all sorts of devices between 2.3 and 3.8 GHz and yes 3.65 falls in that window. Device frequency scanning will be dictated by availabilty. So if the WISP Market, small and large, build compatable 3.65 networks with viable roaming agreements with the right service flows everyone could be happy. Keep in mind the right things need to fall in place for this to happen. Hurdles... -CPE that really are interoperable and in many types of devices. -Base Station RF in a cellular sence. That equals build outs with competitive priced Base stations in mobile mind set. -Base stations from different manufactureers that can GPS sync with each other so UL/DL ratios can co exist in a given area. To my knowledge this does not exist yet but would be critical to help with interference in the 3.65 GHz band. The WiMAX forum needs to make sure this does exist between base stations along with the interoperability standards they are developing. The GPS peice may exist but I have yet to see in in the standerds. Thanks, John Rock Wireless Connections Director of Operations - Senior Engineer ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. - Original Message - From: 3-dB Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field Mike I hate to say it but I don't think WiMax is intended for the average WISP... lots of carrier grade functionality that the WISP market doesn't need, but really drives up the price (I think its supposed
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
I am an ILEC. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal I think you mean clec. ILEC is people like att or verizon. Clec is all the upstarts. Though I could be missing something here. Charles Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
ATT, Verizon, and Qwest are RBOCs, a subset of ILECs (though the largest by far). There are hundreds of ILECs out there. There's more than 9 and less than... 50? ILECs in Illinois alone, with only 2 of them being RBOCs. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal I think you mean clec. ILEC is people like att or verizon. Clec is all the upstarts. Though I could be missing something here. Charles Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
Iowa used to have over 100 ILECs. I think they still do. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal ATT, Verizon, and Qwest are RBOCs, a subset of ILECs (though the largest by far). There are hundreds of ILECs out there. There's more than 9 and less than... 50? ILECs in Illinois alone, with only 2 of them being RBOCs. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal I think you mean clec. ILEC is people like att or verizon. Clec is all the upstarts. Though I could be missing something here. Charles Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal
This list shows 142 ILECs in Iowa alone. http://www.yourclosestconnection.com/itc_list.asp We have 13 in Utah. Oregon has 30 ILECs. http://www.ota-telecom.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1subarticlenbr=36 - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal Iowa used to have over 100 ILECs. I think they still do. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal ATT, Verizon, and Qwest are RBOCs, a subset of ILECs (though the largest by far). There are hundreds of ILECs out there. There's more than 9 and less than... 50? ILECs in Illinois alone, with only 2 of them being RBOCs. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Deal I think you mean clec. ILEC is people like att or verizon. Clec is all the upstarts. Though I could be missing something here. Charles Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Freespace Systems Introduces the first 1, 000mW High Performance 802.11b/g Radio
They are made by compex: http://www.compex.com.sg/home/products1.asp?20070314532323 Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA Members] Freespace Systems Introduces the first 1, 000mW High Performance 802.11b/g Radio http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080723/20080723006177.html?.v=1 I got a couple of these in my hands to sample yesterday. Haven't had a chance to experiment with them yet. George ___ WISPA Membership Mailing List --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Direct TV interference from 802.11b client?
I had a customer call. She said she had some time so she was going to call before her satellite guy was going to. The customer has been installed for a couple years, but she swears that her 'pixelated' satellite reception on channels 3,5 and 9 are due to my system. The satellite folks replaced the dish, and head, and finally blamed my equipment mount a couple feet to the side of their dish. This customer claims that when pixelation occurs, she can unplug our equipment and the problems 'disappears'. Lets see, 2.4Ghz and what, 6 or 11G for the dish tv. don't see where on the RF front there is a remote possibility of interference. The coax goes around the house, our cat5 goes thru the crawlspace. Anyone ever have these kinds of issues? The customer expects me to re-install equipment on the other side of the house for free? Any suggestions? Thank you kindly, Marshall WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Direct TV interference from 802.11b client?
Hi, We have had to deal with this several times over the years. If you can go to their house, see the bad picture, unplug their equipment and it goes away, then it's your problem. Just re-mount the radio farther away and keep the customer happy. Travis Microserv rabbtux rabbtux wrote: I had a customer call. She said she had some time so she was going to call before her satellite guy was going to. The customer has been installed for a couple years, but she swears that her 'pixelated' satellite reception on channels 3,5 and 9 are due to my system. The satellite folks replaced the dish, and head, and finally blamed my equipment mount a couple feet to the side of their dish. This customer claims that when pixelation occurs, she can unplug our equipment and the problems 'disappears'. Lets see, 2.4Ghz and what, 6 or 11G for the dish tv. don't see where on the RF front there is a remote possibility of interference. The coax goes around the house, our cat5 goes thru the crawlspace. Anyone ever have these kinds of issues? The customer expects me to re-install equipment on the other side of the house for free? Any suggestions? Thank you kindly, Marshall WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Freespace Systems Introduces the first 1, 000mW High Performance 802.11b/g Radio
Just as many of our items, Compex does make them for us. And, as with our other hardware items we work with Compex on, they are ours exclusively. These are impressive radios. George -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Freespace Systems Introduces the first 1, 000mW High Performance 802.11b/g Radio They are made by compex: http://www.compex.com.sg/home/products1.asp?20070314532323 Sincerely, Tony Morella Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA Members] Freespace Systems Introduces the first 1, 000mW High Performance 802.11b/g Radio http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080723/20080723006177.html?.v=1 I got a couple of these in my hands to sample yesterday. Haven't had a chance to experiment with them yet. George ___ WISPA Membership Mailing List --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Direct TV interference from 802.11b client?
I've seen that happen. Move your gear at least 6' from the dish and it should go away. I never mount closer than 6, preferably 10, feet from them anymore. Crappy receivers I think. Poor oob filtering. marlon - Original Message - From: rabbtux rabbtux [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] Direct TV interference from 802.11b client? I had a customer call. She said she had some time so she was going to call before her satellite guy was going to. The customer has been installed for a couple years, but she swears that her 'pixelated' satellite reception on channels 3,5 and 9 are due to my system. The satellite folks replaced the dish, and head, and finally blamed my equipment mount a couple feet to the side of their dish. This customer claims that when pixelation occurs, she can unplug our equipment and the problems 'disappears'. Lets see, 2.4Ghz and what, 6 or 11G for the dish tv. don't see where on the RF front there is a remote possibility of interference. The coax goes around the house, our cat5 goes thru the crawlspace. Anyone ever have these kinds of issues? The customer expects me to re-install equipment on the other side of the house for free? Any suggestions? Thank you kindly, Marshall WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISP] I told you guys
Nice job on the inclusion on that page Mike. marlon - Original Message - From: Bullit To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:17 PM Subject: [WISP] I told you guys Hopefully, you're there already. If not, get in there soon. http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/highspeedinternet.html Michael WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/