Re: [WISPA] routers
Have you been changing the firmware on them? The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Same for the 150/160N. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well produced firmware. On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 5:54 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
Jeromie Reeves wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? Ah yes I was going to mention that. The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Yes a marked improvement in performance and stability. Same for the 150/160N. What firmware are you using on the 160N? I tried flashing it over the weekend and finally found one it let me upload, but I appear to have bricked the device. I can probably fix it via boot_wait, and would love to know what firmware has been used successfully to reflash with. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well produced firmware. Exactly. -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeromie Reeves wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? Ah yes I was going to mention that. The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Yes a marked improvement in performance and stability. Same for the 150/160N. What firmware are you using on the 160N? I tried flashing it over the weekend and finally found one it let me upload, but I appear to have bricked the device. I can probably fix it via boot_wait, and would love to know what firmware has been used successfully to reflash with. You need to TFTP the mini version, then the full version. V24 from the stable branch. I see that they have again redone the download structure. downloads, stable, v24SP1, Consumer, Linksys, WRT160N_v1. I do not know what has changed since the version ive been using is about 3 months old. I find with ddrt like all other software, find one that works and keep it. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well produced firmware. Exactly. -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:13 AM, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeromie Reeves wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. We buy the Linksys WRT54GL (basically, the old/good WRT54G before they started taking out half the RAM and using a different, flakier processor), and it's pretty solid as-is. If you need special features or just have a customer you really like, flashing that router with something like DD-WRT makes it even better. I manage all customer end routers. It keeps the 3am calls down a lot. Three or four years back, we were flashing WRT54Gs and using them as wireless client devices. Now that the firmware has improved (a lot), it might be worthwhile to revisit that notion. Configured properly, it's a decent wireless client radio (Broadcom chipset, I believe), with integrated NAT and a four-port switch, and can be had for under seventy bucks in small quantity. Since the radio is built-in, that's even cheaper than the low-end Mikrotik boards. I have decided to move over to 100% 5ghz for network distribution and leave 2.4 as client side networks. Because we manage them it helps to stop from stepping on ourselves and from people dropping in 500mw/1watt amps with 7db duckies. Found more then a few of those and quickly changed the setup. They make a great network extender and have plenty of features. Now if only the PPtP worked with MT + UserManager. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
Thats the first thing I do, update the firmware. Sometime it helps but usually not. The darn things just are flaky! On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Same for the 150/160N. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well produced firmware. On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 5:54 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
Whats not under $100? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice try but I said under $100 :) On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM, CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruckus media flex Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
Good luck here with wrt54gl stock. --- airCloud Communications Jerry Richardson 925-260-4119 Sent Mobile -Original Message- From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 1:33 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Nice try but I said under $100 :) On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM, CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruckus media flex Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
find one that works and keep it. Easier said then done, when distributers keep changing what hardware rev they stock. Darn near impossible to keep it straight. We are doing our best to stay away from the 54G linksys AP's now because we found that most of the models have problems with ARP over wireless. Symptoms like loosing connectivity for 30 seconds at at a time. We still use the higher end Linksys VPN routers, more often. They seem to be more stable. But I have to say, finding stable low end routers is a challenge. We are finding it more common that we end up using higher end Security appliances instead. (sonic walls, Watch Guards, Fortigate, etc). But I would much prefer a true router. I will say that Netopia used to make a Ethernet to Ethernet router that was identical to their integrated DSL routers. Not sure if they still do. What I might suggest is keeping a look out for a low cost Layer3 switch. Not quite cheap yet, but starting to get affordable. Intellinet has their OSPF capable layer2/3 switch (24 port 100baseT, 4 port Gigabit, 8-16K of table space) for about $750. Netgear has their 12port OSPF capable layer3 switch for about $300. (only can handle about 500 entries in its OSPF table, so just good for for end user STUB type configurations). Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeromie Reeves wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? Ah yes I was going to mention that. The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Yes a marked improvement in performance and stability. Same for the 150/160N. What firmware are you using on the 160N? I tried flashing it over the weekend and finally found one it let me upload, but I appear to have bricked the device. I can probably fix it via boot_wait, and would love to know what firmware has been used successfully to reflash with. You need to TFTP the mini version, then the full version. V24 from the stable branch. I see that they have again redone the download structure. downloads, stable, v24SP1, Consumer, Linksys, WRT160N_v1. I do not know what has changed since the version ive been using is about 3 months old. I find with ddrt like all other software, find one that works and keep it. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well produced firmware. Exactly. -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
I agree with Jeromie on this. Everytime I run into a WRT54G/GS I load DDWRT on them. I have NEVER had a problem out of these home routers after doing that if they are setup correctly. Last I looked, they had many more coversions of home routers with athero's chipsets(DDWRT). I have even used these for satellite AP's before...until the NS2's came along! JM2CW, Scott -- Original Message -- From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:59:44 -0700 Have you been changing the firmware on them? The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Same for the 150/160N. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well produced firmware. On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 5:54 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
I already responded, but a bit late on this thread. I have a USB flash drive loaded with all flashes of DD-WRT that I carry all the time. Anytime I run into a WRT54g/ GL/ gs/ I have all DD-WRT firmware to zap them. Best thing since sliced bread if you ask me. Scott -- Original Message -- From: Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:45:50 -0700 Jeromie Reeves wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? Ah yes I was going to mention that. The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Yes a marked improvement in performance and stability. Same for the 150/160N. What firmware are you using on the 160N? I tried flashing it over the weekend and finally found one it let me upload, but I appear to have bricked the device. I can probably fix it via boot_wait, and would love to know what firmware has been used successfully to reflash with. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well produced firmware. Exactly. -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
Ruckus media flex are over $100. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats not under $100? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice try but I said under $100 :) On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM, CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruckus media flex Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
I agree with that - power really sucks here. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder what model/release your having issues with? Ive got a WRT54G with over a 150day uptime. I would say maybe 2% of my users have UPS's so every 10~14 days everything is reset. Maybe the craptastic power out here is helping network stability with forced power cycling =-) On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:35 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats the first thing I do, update the firmware. Sometime it helps but usually not. The darn things just are flaky! On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Same for the 150/160N. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well produced firmware. On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 5:54 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] routers
Replying to my own response...but since Wallyworld(Walmart) carries these, you might see many, many more of them. Scott -- Original Message -- From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:31:22 -0500 I already responded, but a bit late on this thread. I have a USB flash drive loaded with all flashes of DD-WRT that I carry all the time. Anytime I run into a WRT54g/ GL/ gs/ I have all DD-WRT firmware to zap them. Best thing since sliced bread if you ask me. Scott -- Original Message -- From: Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:45:50 -0700 Jeromie Reeves wrote: Have you been changing the firmware on them? Ah yes I was going to mention that. The majority of the problem with consumer routers is the software is built 'fast and lose'. I find the WRT54G/GS units to work well once changed. Yes a marked improvement in performance and stability. Same for the 150/160N. What firmware are you using on the 160N? I tried flashing it over the weekend and finally found one it let me upload, but I appear to have bricked the device. I can probably fix it via boot_wait, and would love to know what firmware has been used successfully to reflash with. The next largest issue is that they skimp on the hardware resources, the 310 has 32mb ram where most other units have 16 or even as little as 8. That just is not enough with out a well produced firmware. Exactly. -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Dial-Up Internet service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $9.99/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] routers
Yes, and Travis's original post is as follows: I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis, Microserv B/G router, slices right through multipath, reads reflections, smart antenna array, locks 2 or more antenna on client device, reads 45', vertical and horizontal, high output for large homes and offices. Excellent for metal buildings and brick homes. We sell standard wireless routers for $100 installed and encrypted, these for $200. Travis, try one of these in a difficult spot, I'm sure you will like it. $139.00 Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Ruckus media flex are over $100. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats not under $100? On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:34 PM, RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice try but I said under $100 :) On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM, CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ruckus media flex Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] routers Consumer routers are going to be the death of me. I've tried almost all of them. Every year the off the shelf retailers take turn providing the better unit, or worst unit depending on how you look at it. As Travis said, consumers are not techies and can only handle a browser configurable router that doesnt cost over $100. To that end, you would think there would be a good unit that can do the simple job asked of it. So far, the winner this year is the Linksys WRT310N Wireless-N Gigabit Router. I've been installing them all year and so far no problems. BTW: The cheaper WRT54G series suck. -RickG On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.routerboard.com might have some useful items. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any suggestions? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
