Re: [WISPA] Who stocks PacW DP feeds

2008-09-24 Thread 3-dB Networks
Tom,

Hutton carries them... I can check stock for you in a few hours if you like

Daniel White
3-dB Networks

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:21 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Who stocks PacW DP feeds

So... Now that PacWireless's (Laird) online store is no more, and they are 
now more reliant on their Distribution partners

Who stocks the 29db DP Feeds and dishes? Is it back to special order or Drop

ship?

Specifically referring to the HDDA5W-29-DP models.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband 





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Re: [WISPA] Who stocks PacW DP feeds

2008-09-24 Thread Randy Cosby
Streakwave does as well.

Randy
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3-dB Networks wrote:
 Tom,
 
 Hutton carries them... I can check stock for you in a few hours if you like
 
 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:21 PM
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 Subject: [WISPA] Who stocks PacW DP feeds
 
 So... Now that PacWireless's (Laird) online store is no more, and they are 
 now more reliant on their Distribution partners
 
 Who stocks the 29db DP Feeds and dishes? Is it back to special order or Drop
 
 ship?
 
 Specifically referring to the HDDA5W-29-DP models.
 
 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] routers

2008-09-24 Thread John Thomas
Cisco 851's run about $$300 and the 871's run about $450.

John Thomas


Travis Johnson wrote:
 I was hoping to find something a little more user friendly, as the 
 company buying isn't real tech savvy. Something with a nice web gui 
 and easy to understand settings.

 Travis
 Microserv

 Butch Evans wrote:
 On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Travis Johnson wrote:

   
 I'm looking for a recommendation on an Ethernet router (two ports 
 or more) that is somewhere in between a $50 Linksys and a $500 
 Cisco ASA. Something that will do some basic QoS would be nice. Any 
 suggestions?
 

 Mikrotik's 400 series routers are very good for this purpose.  They 
 are, in my opinion, better in most respects than either of the 
 devices you mention, but cost is between your numbers.  ;-)  You can 
 get from 1 to 9 ethernet ports for less than $200 with all the power 
 you need to run good QOS management.  Another alternative, though 
 I'm not sure it would fit in the price model you mention, is 
 ImageStream.  They have all the power of Linux with the benefit of 
 tested package interactions.  VERY nice solution.

   
 



 
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Re: [WISPA] Who stocks PacW DP feeds

2008-09-24 Thread Tom DeReggi
Well... I've always been a big fan of Hutton/Electrocom, and they do sell 
them, and have a great price on the feeds.
Stocking of DP products is a different story.  Unfortunteately, the majority 
of the time, when I need them , usually the last minute :-), the parts I 
need are usually check for availabilty. :-(  That makes it hard to place 
an order at 8pm online, when I finally get time, and get a sense of whether 
the product will arrive on time for my need.  So I was just looking for 
additional options.  I was also wondering if Pac's model is now just for 
vendors to have Pac just Drop ship, and vendors generally not planning on 
stocking, which would also be OK.  On an ongoing basis, I just don't want to 
have to wait  for a product to be shipped to the distributor, and then from 
distributor to me, as that duplicates shipping costs and/or slows delivery 
so the distributor can coordinate lower cost bulk shipping methods to get it 
to them first.  Its worse when I'm east coast, and distributor is west 
coast. I believe in distribution, when distributors are willing to stock the 
merchandise regularly. But in the past, very few vendors have been willing 
to stock DP products. I'm concerned on what availabilty will be in the 
future also.  For small radios, and stuff, the arguement is always The 
WISP should buy larger quantities and stiock more inventory. But Parabolics 
are large antennas, and take up a lot of space, so generally don't like to 
stock a lot of them in our office environment.  I'd rather overnight a 
feed, or buy the full dish more locally.

Now that Pac is refusing to fill orders direct, for these little things, I 
hope distributors will pick up the slack, so we don't have to wait 2 weeks, 
everytime we want a DP antenna.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who stocks PacW DP feeds


 Tom,

 Hutton carries them... I can check stock for you in a few hours if you 
 like

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
 Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:21 PM
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 Subject: [WISPA] Who stocks PacW DP feeds

 So... Now that PacWireless's (Laird) online store is no more, and they are
 now more reliant on their Distribution partners

 Who stocks the 29db DP Feeds and dishes? Is it back to special order or 
 Drop

 ship?

 Specifically referring to the HDDA5W-29-DP models.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband



 
 
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[WISPA] better propagation on 4.9's 5 MHz channels

2008-09-24 Thread Rogelio
So, I'm interested in learning more about why 5MHz channels go farther 
than 20MHz channels on the public safety 4.9 GHz band.

I have no real numbers or theory, just some anectotal evidence by other 
RF guys saying that's been the case in their experience.

Supposedly, RSSI is better at these lower channel sizes, and cop cars 
can get about 3 Mbps, which is more than they'll ever need.  In the end 
of the day, a higher RSSI and lower Mbps of goodput blows away higher 
speeds at lower RSSI.

Any thoughts or comments on this?



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Re: [WISPA] better propagation on 4.9's 5 MHz channels

2008-09-24 Thread Brian Webster
The reason is that if you increase the bandwidth of the channel the power
density decreases thus you need more signal on a wider channel for the same
signal you would get on a narrow channel. It works out to about 3 db
difference per 5 MHz channel width.



Thank You,
Brian Webster

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So, I'm interested in learning more about why 5MHz channels go farther
than 20MHz channels on the public safety 4.9 GHz band.

I have no real numbers or theory, just some anectotal evidence by other
RF guys saying that's been the case in their experience.

Supposedly, RSSI is better at these lower channel sizes, and cop cars
can get about 3 Mbps, which is more than they'll ever need.  In the end
of the day, a higher RSSI and lower Mbps of goodput blows away higher
speeds at lower RSSI.

Any thoughts or comments on this?




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Re: [WISPA] Who stocks PacW DP feeds

2008-09-24 Thread Mike Brownson
Tom,  Thanks for the good word.  On the web site, if it says call for 
availability it means there are none in stock and the lead time has not been 
entered for that product.  So you're right to think that it's not going to ship 
the next day.  But I'll pass your note on to the product manager for Pac and 
see about uping the levels for the 29DP.  I thought it was normally a stock 
item.  But sometimes we run out before the next shipment comes in.  Again I'll 
check.   Thanks.
 
Mike B



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wed 9/24/2008 2:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who stocks PacW DP feeds



Well... I've always been a big fan of Hutton/Electrocom, and they do sell
them, and have a great price on the feeds.
Stocking of DP products is a different story.  Unfortunteately, the majority
of the time, when I need them , usually the last minute :-), the parts I
need are usually check for availabilty. :-(  That makes it hard to place
an order at 8pm online, when I finally get time, and get a sense of whether
the product will arrive on time for my need.  So I was just looking for
additional options.  I was also wondering if Pac's model is now just for
vendors to have Pac just Drop ship, and vendors generally not planning on
stocking, which would also be OK.  On an ongoing basis, I just don't want to
have to wait  for a product to be shipped to the distributor, and then from
distributor to me, as that duplicates shipping costs and/or slows delivery
so the distributor can coordinate lower cost bulk shipping methods to get it
to them first.  Its worse when I'm east coast, and distributor is west
coast. I believe in distribution, when distributors are willing to stock the
merchandise regularly. But in the past, very few vendors have been willing
to stock DP products. I'm concerned on what availabilty will be in the
future also.  For small radios, and stuff, the arguement is always The
WISP should buy larger quantities and stiock more inventory. But Parabolics
are large antennas, and take up a lot of space, so generally don't like to
stock a lot of them in our office environment.  I'd rather overnight a
feed, or buy the full dish more locally.

Now that Pac is refusing to fill orders direct, for these little things, I
hope distributors will pick up the slack, so we don't have to wait 2 weeks,
everytime we want a DP antenna.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who stocks PacW DP feeds


 Tom,

 Hutton carries them... I can check stock for you in a few hours if you
 like

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
 Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:21 PM
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 Subject: [WISPA] Who stocks PacW DP feeds

 So... Now that PacWireless's (Laird) online store is no more, and they are
 now more reliant on their Distribution partners

 Who stocks the 29db DP Feeds and dishes? Is it back to special order or
 Drop

 ship?

 Specifically referring to the HDDA5W-29-DP models.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Who stocks PacW DP feeds

2008-09-24 Thread Blair Davis




This is for Mike and it is off topic

Mike, what is the deal with hutton getting the Ubiquity NS2 or the
Senao EOC-2610 back in stock? 

Hutton has become my main wireless supplier for radios, cards, boards
and other parts, excluding antennas. 

Thanks, 

Blair

Mike Brownson wrote:

  Tom,  Thanks for the good word.  On the web site, if it says call for availability it means there are none in stock and the lead time has not been entered for that product.  So you're right to think that it's not going to ship the next day.  But I'll pass your note on to the product manager for Pac and see about uping the levels for the 29DP.  I thought it was normally a stock item.  But sometimes we run out before the next shipment comes in.  Again I'll check.   Thanks.
 
Mike B



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wed 9/24/2008 2:24 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who stocks PacW DP feeds



Well... I've always been a big fan of Hutton/Electrocom, and they do sell
them, and have a great price on the feeds.
Stocking of DP products is a different story.  Unfortunteately, the majority
of the time, when I need them , usually the last minute :-), the parts I
need are usually "check for availabilty". :-(  That makes it hard to place
an order at 8pm online, when I finally get time, and get a sense of whether
the product will arrive on time for my need.  So I was just looking for
additional options.  I was also wondering if Pac's model is now just for
vendors to have Pac just Drop ship, and vendors generally not planning on
stocking, which would also be OK.  On an ongoing basis, I just don't want to
have to wait  for a product to be shipped to the distributor, and then from
distributor to me, as that duplicates shipping costs and/or slows delivery
so the distributor can coordinate lower cost bulk shipping methods to get it
to them first.  Its worse when I'm east coast, and distributor is west
coast. I believe in distribution, when distributors are willing to stock the
merchandise regularly. But in the past, very few vendors have been willing
to stock DP products. I'm concerned on what availabilty will be in the
future also.  For small radios, and stuff, the arguement is always The
WISP should buy larger quantities and stiock more inventory. But Parabolics
are large antennas, and take up a lot of space, so generally don't like to
stock a lot of them in our "office" environment.  I'd rather overnight a
feed, or buy the full dish more locally.

Now that Pac is refusing to fill orders direct, for these little things, I
hope distributors will pick up the slack, so we don't have to wait 2 weeks,
everytime we want a DP antenna.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Tom,

Hutton carries them... I can check stock for you in a few hours if you
like

Daniel White
3-dB Networks

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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:21 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Who stocks PacW DP feeds

So... Now that PacWireless's (Laird) online store is no more, and they are
now more reliant on their Distribution partners

Who stocks the 29db DP Feeds and dishes? Is it back to special order or
Drop

ship?

Specifically referring to the HDDA5W-29-DP models.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband





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