[WISPA] Does anybody have a calculator to determine antenna down angle?

2008-10-29 Thread Pat O'Connor
Yes I'm a WISP newbie.  We have an agreement with a cellular provider to 
put out antennas on their tower that is next to ours.  The tower is 
almost twice as big as the one I have now, and our gear will be located 
at the top.  I have all my elevations, and azimuths for the different 
tower locations we need to point at.  I was wondering if there was a 
calculator out there that would allow me to figure out the new down 
angles. 

Thanks,

Pat




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[WISPA] Equip Leasing

2008-10-29 Thread ccooper
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Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have a calculator to determine antenna downangle?

2008-10-29 Thread Tim Kerns
Try this

http://www.terabeam.com/support/calculations/index.php


- Original Message - 
From: Pat O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:00 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Does anybody have a calculator to determine antenna 
downangle?


 Yes I'm a WISP newbie.  We have an agreement with a cellular provider to
 put out antennas on their tower that is next to ours.  The tower is
 almost twice as big as the one I have now, and our gear will be located
 at the top.  I have all my elevations, and azimuths for the different
 tower locations we need to point at.  I was wondering if there was a
 calculator out there that would allow me to figure out the new down
 angles.

 Thanks,

 Pat



 
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Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing

2008-10-29 Thread 3-dB Networks
Yes...

Everyone check out our website article here.
http://www.3dbnetworks.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=126

It describes in detail the various funding options out there and why you
should choose each option.  It was written by Todd Bergstrom, the former CEO
of Mesa Networks and the CEO of 3-dB Networks.

If you go here
http://www.3dbnetworks.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=128

We have a link and some information about the company we used for our
financing when we were Mesa, Landmark Financial.  They are a great company
to work with, and truly understand the WISP industry.

If you need some Motorola gear for that financing, we may be able to work
out a special deal for you...

Daniel White
3-dB Networks

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Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have a calculator to determine antenna downangle?

2008-10-29 Thread Pat O'Connor
Thanks!


Tim Kerns wrote:
 Try this

 http://www.terabeam.com/support/calculations/index.php


 - Original Message - 
 From: Pat O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:00 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Does anybody have a calculator to determine antenna 
 downangle?


   
 Yes I'm a WISP newbie.  We have an agreement with a cellular provider to
 put out antennas on their tower that is next to ours.  The tower is
 almost twice as big as the one I have now, and our gear will be located
 at the top.  I have all my elevations, and azimuths for the different
 tower locations we need to point at.  I was wondering if there was a
 calculator out there that would allow me to figure out the new down
 angles.

 Thanks,

 Pat



 
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Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing

2008-10-29 Thread Harold Bledsoe
We have had good success with Marlin Leasing:

https://www.marlinleasing.com/marlinleasing/index.asp?menu=ml

-Hal

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Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing

2008-10-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DeLage Landen F.S.
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Has been great for us.

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Harold Bledsoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

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Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing

2008-10-29 Thread Joe Fiero
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Chet Zeken
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As close to a miracle worker as you can find


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Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing

2008-10-29 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net
Please do not Advertise on the list!  This is not permitted.

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3-dB Networks wrote:
 Yes...

 Everyone check out our website article here.
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=126

 It describes in detail the various funding options out there and why you
 should choose each option.  It was written by Todd Bergstrom, the former CEO
 of Mesa Networks and the CEO of 3-dB Networks.

 If you go here
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=128

 We have a link and some information about the company we used for our
 financing when we were Mesa, Landmark Financial.  They are a great company
 to work with, and truly understand the WISP industry.

 If you need some Motorola gear for that financing, we may be able to work
 out a special deal for you...

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks

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Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing

2008-10-29 Thread Mike Delp
Message Sent offlist.

Thanks

Mike Delp
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Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing

Yes...

Everyone check out our website article here.
http://www.3dbnetworks.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=126

It describes in detail the various funding options out there and why you
should choose each option.  It was written by Todd Bergstrom, the former CEO
of Mesa Networks and the CEO of 3-dB Networks.

If you go here
http://www.3dbnetworks.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=128

We have a link and some information about the company we used for our
financing when we were Mesa, Landmark Financial.  They are a great company
to work with, and truly understand the WISP industry.

If you need some Motorola gear for that financing, we may be able to work
out a special deal for you...

Daniel White
3-dB Networks

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Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing

2008-10-29 Thread Chuck McCown
So, */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training  
at the end of your note is NOT advertising?
I am confused.  Daniel was responding to a specific question.  I thought it 
was apropos.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing


 Please do not Advertise on the list!  This is not permitted.

 --
 * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
 Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services*
 314-735-0270
 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/

 */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training
 http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp/*



 3-dB Networks wrote:
 Yes...

 Everyone check out our website article here.
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=126

 It describes in detail the various funding options out there and why you
 should choose each option.  It was written by Todd Bergstrom, the former 
 CEO
 of Mesa Networks and the CEO of 3-dB Networks.

 If you go here
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=128

 We have a link and some information about the company we used for our
 financing when we were Mesa, Landmark Financial.  They are a great 
 company
 to work with, and truly understand the WISP industry.

 If you need some Motorola gear for that financing, we may be able to work
 out a special deal for you...

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks

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Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing

2008-10-29 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net wrote:

Please do not Advertise on the list!  This is not permitted.

They are a vendor member and were answering a specific question.  It 
was not really an advertisement.

Everyone check out our website article here.
http://www.3dbnetworks.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=126

Daniel,
This is one of the best articles I've read in a long while on 
leasing options.  My commendations to the author.

If you need some Motorola gear for that financing, we may be able 
to work out a special deal for you...

Ok, well, this was kinda advertising, but still not too far off the 
subject.

-- 

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Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik disconnect issue Oct 10th, 2008

2008-10-29 Thread Bob Knight
If I were in John's shoes, I'd feel the same way.

Personally, I'd have more respect for Tranzeo if they complied with the 
GPL and BSD licenses. The ER1000 series is Linux-based. Nowhere in 
Tranzeo's documentation or on their web site do I find the information 
required by the GPL. If one gets into the unit, the information required 
by the BSD license isn't there either. We (LCWA, that is) have talked to 
them regarding this and they're basically non-responsive.

To many, it's a small thing. In my opinion, it matters because it speaks 
to ethics.

FWIW.

Bob


John Scrivner wrote:
 Now if they would just drop a mere $1000 to join WISPA as a Vendor
 Member they would earn mine. I use their products every day. I have
 asked them to join, face to face, at shows as recently as the last
 WiMax World a month ago. Tranzeo benefits regularly from WISPA but as
 yet seems reluctant to support our industry efforts.
 Scriv


 On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I read every word. Tranzeo has earned my respect.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
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 Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
 Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:04 PM
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 Users Mailing List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik disconnect issue
 Oct 10th, 2008

 Ladies and Gentlemen,

 (Please pardon my extensive use of () and  in this here email, I am
 not so good with the typin' stuff!

 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

 A few weeks ago (years in some cases, hi Travis!) there was discovered a
 random disconnect issue between Tranzeo CPE and Mtik APs.

 First it was prism vs atheos (no, that was not it)
 Then it was tranzeo CPE are terrible. Yadda Yadda (no that is not it
 either as even MTIK CPE were seing this, although not as often)
 Then it was you must have some power issue with the boards browning out
 on the routeros board you are using (nope, not that either)
 Someone even threw in Pluto is mad that it is not a planet any more.
 (Pluto is now considered the largest member of a distinct population
 called the Kuiper belt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuiper_belt.)
 Even I said it was not an issue and hey they just disconnect a few
 times a day.. who cares! (whoops! talk to my P** off customers!)
 Even Marlon the strange wizard from the far side of the mountains said
 the Tranzeo CPE were to blame (he convinced me to use Tranzeo over
 SmartBridges! Thank Goodness!)
 Travis from Idaho posted a forum entry here for Mtik to ignore or scoff
 at: (Hi Uldis!) http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=7t=24971

 I emailed Damian and another gentleman from Tranzeo privately and said
 WTF kids? I did some network sniffing for them and was able to give
 EXACT details about what was happening, when and how.

 We (Tranzeo and I, mostly Damian) opened a ticket with Mtik
 (Ticket#2008091666000531):

Tranzeo laid out a packet sniff from Network Instruments Wireless
Observer along with my wireshark packet sniff showing in brief that
the Mtik AP was throwing out random zeros in it's beacon frame
timestamp. They stated that when a zero is recieved, the CPE are to
assume that there is a change in the settings of the wireless AP and
they should disconnect and reaquire. (think of this as an INSTANT
change from 802.11b to 802.11b/g and all your clients disconnect and
reconnect, because, well, there is a change in the AP's
capabilities. This is reasonable reaction to a notification of a
change of settings.

Mtik replied with IEEE Std 802.11-2007 section 11.1.1.1 (located
here if you have trouble sleeping:
(http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802/download/802.11-2007.pdf
*YAWN* let me tell you, this explains why wireless engineers are who
they are.. whoa!) Mtik continued and said that the wording of this
standard allowed for a timestamp of zero sent from the AP and
basically the CPE should deal with it and play through.

Damian learned some Latvian so he could swear in a diffrent language
than Canadian. Honestly, he likes to be legal in APs etc and just
cannot see why us ULS users would flaunt the FCC _and_ put up with
these Mtik bugs. I mentioned something under my breath regarding
CPQs and firware updates about 3 years ago...

The nice gentleman engineer at Tranzeo placed some virtual CPE on a
bench facing a Mtik AP and was able to reproduce the issue. He then
released to me some very alpha firmware that would email him with a
warning whenever a CPQ saw a zero frame. This alpha software would
also IGNORE this frame and keep on trucking. This alpha firmware was
given with the stern warning that if I changed ANYTHING on the AP I
would have to really recycle it to make all the CPE realize there
was 

Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have a calculator to determine antenna downangle?

2008-10-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Use the signal meters built into the radios.  Aim the dishes at the 
strongest signal and be done with it.

Most antennas don't actually seem to point exactly at the other end anyway. 
The calculations get you close, finish it up with measurements.

What dishes and radios are you using?

I assume these are for ptp links?

marlon

- Original Message - 
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To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:00 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Does anybody have a calculator to determine antenna 
downangle?


 Yes I'm a WISP newbie.  We have an agreement with a cellular provider to
 put out antennas on their tower that is next to ours.  The tower is
 almost twice as big as the one I have now, and our gear will be located
 at the top.  I have all my elevations, and azimuths for the different
 tower locations we need to point at.  I was wondering if there was a
 calculator out there that would allow me to figure out the new down
 angles.

 Thanks,

 Pat



 
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Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing

2008-10-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We use bank money when ever we can.  No surprises that way.

I've leased gear from Tiger Leasing in the past.  Steve is great.

Make sure that you nail down the buyout.  I usually shoot for $1.00 buyouts. 
At the very least a fixed number.  None of that fair market value crap. 
They get to pick that number, not you.

laters,
marlon

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 Does anyone have a good relationship with a reputable equipment
 leasing firm? If so, who are you using?

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Re: [WISPA] Equip Leasing

2008-10-29 Thread Travis Johnson




Marlon,

The difference with "fair market value" leasing is that you get to
deduct the full amount of each monthly payment because it's a "true
lease"... so you don't have to depreciate the equipment and deal with
tax law changes every year and wonder if you are going to be over or
under the limit, etc.

Some leases are going to work better for some companies than others.
This year, because of tax law changes for 2008, we actually will bump
right up against the new limit of taking the full deduction on our
equipment purchases.

Check with your accountant on which type of lease is best for your
company.

Travis
Microserv

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

  We use bank money when ever we can.  No surprises that way.

I've leased gear from Tiger Leasing in the past.  Steve is great.

Make sure that you nail down the buyout.  I usually shoot for $1.00 buyouts. 
At the very least a fixed number.  None of that "fair market value" crap. 
They get to pick that number, not you.

laters,
marlon

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[WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3

2008-10-29 Thread sales
We are testing a 3.65 GHz setup with MT and XR3 using a 11 dBi Omni and 14
dBi panel. My results are not really impressive with signal levels. However,
In order to use 3663 MHz you must set the card for 5770 MHz and 5770 MHz is
not available unless you purchase a special frequency license for each ap
and cpe from MT. However someone on the list pointed out that selecting a
different country other than the good old USA would allow you to select the
5770 Mhz frequency. This is true and we used the Germany 5ghz ptp setting
for country and we now have the needed 5770 Mhz frequency available for
selection. So now I am starting to wonder if this may be the reason we are
getting less than anticipated results with signal levels. So now finally the
real question I am asking; is there really a difference between purchasing a
special frequency license from MT and using the cheat of selecting a
different country in order to select 5770 Mhz? Isn't 5770 Mhz still 5770 Mhz
no matter what?

 

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Michiana Wireless

 




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[WISPA] Netflix and TiVo

2008-10-29 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Netflix and TiVo are getting together.. more bandwidth anybody?  Labor  and
postage gone, and we deliver it (nearly free) at the customer expense !  

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