Re: [WISPA] OT: Twitter

[Sam Tetherow]

There is always the # convention for topic stuff. Tweetdeck works well 
for following # tags.

Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless


Nigel Bruin wrote:
> On 20 Feb 2009, at 14:08, Sam Tetherow wrote:
>   
>> Just curious if anyone other than myself (@tetherow) and Peter R
>> (@radinfo) use twitter.
>> 
>
> Yes (@nigelbruin) but I lost interest for a long time, partly
> because I want different conversations with different groups
> and Twitter doesn't do groups.
>
> I know some folks using https://www.yammer.com/ for internal
> comms. which is inherently organised for groups.
>
> On the plus side, I just discovered http://www.twe2.com/ which
> is free Twitter->SMS.  Great for direct messages.
>
> Nigel Bruin
> nigelbruin.com
>
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Twitter

[Nigel Bruin]

On 20 Feb 2009, at 14:08, Sam Tetherow wrote:
> Just curious if anyone other than myself (@tetherow) and Peter R
> (@radinfo) use twitter.

Yes (@nigelbruin) but I lost interest for a long time, partly
because I want different conversations with different groups
and Twitter doesn't do groups.

I know some folks using https://www.yammer.com/ for internal
comms. which is inherently organised for groups.

On the plus side, I just discovered http://www.twe2.com/ which
is free Twitter->SMS.  Great for direct messages.

Nigel Bruin
nigelbruin.com



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Re: [WISPA] OT: Twitter

[Jonathan Schmidt]

I do, occasionally...sort of like a walkie-talkie.
. . . j o n a t h a n

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Sam Tetherow
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:08 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] OT: Twitter

Just curious if anyone other than myself (@tetherow) and Peter R 
(@radinfo) use twitter.


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[WISPA] OT: Twitter

[Sam Tetherow]

Just curious if anyone other than myself (@tetherow) and Peter R 
(@radinfo) use twitter.



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Re: [WISPA] Fentomcells and Broadband Backhaul

[Brian Webster]

Not as long as people are willing to pay for the broadband that will
backhaul the fem-to-cell traffic. The cellular operators are getting free
network backhaul :-)



Thank You,
Brian Webster

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 5:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Fentomcells and Broadband Backhaul


Anyone has apporached the the Cellcos to create a joint package offering
Broadband + Fentomcell service?


Gino A. Villarini
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[WISPA] Fentomcells and Broadband Backhaul

[Gino Villarini]

Anyone has apporached the the Cellcos to create a joint package offering
Broadband + Fentomcell service?
 

Gino A. Villarini 
g...@aeronetpr.com 
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 
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Re: [WISPA] [Sarcasm Alert] Yippee! Sprint "owns" the NTIA

[reader]

February's always been dead here.  My sales in Februrary have generally been 
nil.   Not this year.  I've several for the month.







- Original Message - 
From: "John McDowell" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Sarcasm Alert] Yippee! Sprint "owns" the NTIA


> That's awesome Marlon. We too are seeing a spike this year. 36 last month,
> Over 30 so far this month.
>
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Marlon K. Schafer 
> wrote:
>
>> Most people around here understand this issue.  They are putting service
>> ahead of that last couple of bucks.
>>
>> We added a net of almost 100 subs last year (much better than I thought 
>> it
>> would be due to the installation pace mid year).  This year, in the midst
>> of
>> a ression I've put on 26 already!  We're ahead of last years numbers, by 
>> a
>> high %.
>>
>> We can more easily cut costs than the big guys can.  We don't have unions
>> to
>> deal with, we usually don't have large houses, planes, vehicle fleets 
>> etc.
>> etc. etc.
>>
>> This will be a good thing for us at the end of the day.
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "RickG" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Sarcasm Alert] Yippee! Sprint "owns" the NTIA
>>
>>
>> > And THAT's what give capitalism a bad name. So, with the "C-word"
>> becoming
>> > a
>> > bad thing, the socialist will get their way - for now at least. What 
>> > can
>> a
>> > WISP do in such an environment?
>> > -RickG
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Patrick Leary
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Groan. Sigh. The following comment reflects a personal view... Would
>> >> have been nice if they could have tapped someone from a respected 
>> >> think
>> >> tank like Pew or non-profit like the New America Foundation.
>> >>
>> >> You'd think by now people would getting tired of bringing in big 
>> >> company
>> >> board room honchos to run these sorts of things. The temptation and
>> >> limited "big company" experience of these people just continues the
>> >> culture of influence peddling and mutual aggrandizing among their
>> >> well-heeled and boot-licking peers. After so many repeated stories of
>> >> abuse and fraud, all I can think of when I see this sort of 
>> >> appointment
>> >> of a major corporate figure is the image of cigar chomping,
>> >> back-slapping, bonus-happy banker-type culture.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Patrick Leary
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
>> >> On
>> >> Behalf Of John Scrivner
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:15 AM
>> >> To: WISPA General List
>> >> Subject: [WISPA] [Sarcasm Alert] Yippee! Sprint "owns" the NTIA
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone know the stock symbol for the company that makes KY Jelly?
>> >> I think that is where I will be moving my portfolio to. I'll just go
>> >> ahead now and predict that Sprint / Clearwire end up with a minimum of
>> >> $3B, likely more.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> TODAY'S SPOTLIGHT... Former Sprint exec tapped as NTIA deputy director
>> >>
>> >> The Obama administration has named a former Sprint Nextel executive,
>> >> Anna Gomez, to serve as deputy director of the National
>> >> Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA), which will
>> >> handle as much as $6.65 billion in new stimulus wireless and broadband
>> >> grants that will be available to Sprint and its competitors.
>> >>
>> >> Gomez, former vice president of government affairs with Sprint, is
>> >> currently acting director of NTIA, which influences the president's
>> >> telecom policy within the Commerce Department.
>> >>
>> >> NTIA spokesman Bart Forbes said in an interview with the Wall Street
>> >> Journal that Gomez understands that the public has "every right to be
>> >> concerned about her role in a potential broadband grant program,"
>> >> because of her history with Sprint. "She is discussing this with the
>> >> ethics office and will look to remove herself from the decision-making
>> >> process" for grant applications where appropriate, he said.
>> >>
>> >>
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[WISPA] Liebert AC Units

[lakeland]

Guys and Gals

We are taking down a data center here in NY and we will have a 20 ton and a 10 
ton Liebert System 3 A/C unit available for sale. 208 VAC Glycol system. I can 
provide more info if interested. I guarantee they will work and they come with 
the rooftop condenser units.

I will donate $250 for each unit to WISPA if they are sold to someone who 
references they saw the ad here. 

Contact me off list for more info.

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Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

[Scottie Arnett]

Yea! Thanks! That is it. So it became or some of the developers started
Meraki? 

Scottie

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Matt Hardy
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 5:14 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks


I think you're thinking of the MIT Roofnet project?
http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/roofnet/doku.php

:)

Scottie Arnett wrote:
> I was thinking of something else...can't remember what is was called. 
> A college was replacing the firmware in some Netgear WGR614L(best I 
> recall) routers and meshing the whole campus with it. Sorry for the 
> confusion.
>
> Scottie
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "John J. Thomas" 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date:  Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:49:14 +
>
>   
>> Some MME info
>>
>> http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MME_wireless_routing_protocol
>>
>> John
>>
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Scottie Arnett [mailto:sarn...@info-ed.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 09:34 PM
>>> To: e...@wisp-router.com, 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks
>>>
>>> Too give credit where credit is due...did not a university do this 
>>> to begin with that worked really well...and all other versions are 
>>> built on it?
>>>
>>> Scottie
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: e...@wisp-router.com
>>> Reply-To: e...@wisp-router.com, WISPA General List 
>>> 
>>> Date:  Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:36:32 +
>>>
>>>   
 MikroTik has its MME implementation that is what should be used 
 instead of using WDS for a mesh setup. MME is as true mesh as it 
 gets.

 /Eje
 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

 -Original Message-
 From: Harold Bledsoe 

 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:52:39
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks


 Well there is also the mesh part too.  Is this what you guys are 
 talking about when you say MT mesh:  
 http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Mesh_wds

 If so, I would disagree that this is a "good" mesh implementation. 
 There are many, many more factors to consider when building an 
 infrastructure mesh.  The LigoMesh products take into account 
 signal strength, hops from GW, node load, datarate, etc. to 
 calculate the best path.  Also, there are dedicated radios for 
 uplink/downlink/service set to give high performance.

 On the other hand, if you don't need a carrier-grade infrastructure 
 mesh, Wiligear products based on the WBD-500 do support Open-Mesh 
 and should be available in the very near future on Streakwave's 
 website with the option to have them preloaded with Open-mesh 
 (board, indoor, and outdoor selections).

 I guess what I'm saying is that not all products are created equal 
 and there is certainly a place for each one.  Just be sure you know 
 what you are getting!

 -Hal


 -Original Message-
 From: os10ru...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List 
 To: WISPA General List 
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks
 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:38:04 -0430

 Mr. Burgess,

What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it 
 appears
 the web interface is of no use in the advanced configuration and it  
 sounds like one must get heavily into the CLI and scripting. I don't  
 see an online repository of scripts for programming or even a highly  
 detailed help/wiki online. I'm guessing too many people are making too

 much money doing their Mikrotik training to give it away for free. So  
 because of the apparently steep learning curve I'm leery to make the  
 leap. The more easily configurable (and less powerful) solutions such  
 as Ubiquiti look more appealing to me at this point.

Would you disagree with my perspective? Is making the leap not 
 that
 bad?

 Greg
 On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:21 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:

 
> Ya, don't know why ya don't want a MT solution.  Been there done 
> that and it works :)
>
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Re: [WISPA] [TowerTalk] Tower Collapse - New Kensington, PA @ K3MJW

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Lets remember to keep those trees trimmed around the towers boys
marlon


- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Mills" 
To: "Towertalk" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:09 PM
Subject: [TowerTalk] Tower Collapse - New Kensington, PA @ K3MJW


> http://www.flickr.com/photos/11829...@n06/3291969262/
>
> This is what happens when a wind storm topples a tree that clips a guy 
> wire
> of a 100' tower on the way down.
>
> Happened at the Skyview Radio Society - K3MJW and also took out the 
> 146.64-
> K3MJW/R machine.
>
> Last Thursday we had high winds in the area with one gust measured at 
> 92MPH
> at the county airport.  Buckled right at the second set of guys.  Damaged
> the repeater antenna and feedline too.
>
>
> Chuck / W3YNI
>
> -- 
> =
> Charles L. Mills
> Westmoreland Co. ARES EC
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: Doodle Labs introduces industry's highest performanceIEEE 802.11a/b/g radio modules

[Josh Luthman]

I got it in my spam folder at 9:32 this morning.  Google spam filter.

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On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Marlon K. Schafer 
wrote:

> I just got spammed by them too.
>
> Do you think it's a real company with a real product?
>
> I unsubed from their mailing lists.
> marlon
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:42 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] Fw: Doodle Labs introduces industry's highest
> performanceIEEE 802.11a/b/g radio modules
>
>
> Fyi
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Doodle Labs LLP 
>
> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:31:20
> To: 
> Subject: Doodle Labs introduces industry's highest performance IEEE
> 802.11a/b/g radio modules
>
>
> [http://www.doodle-labs.com/]
>
> PRESS RELEASE
>
> Doodle Labs, a leader in ruggedized, industrial wireless networking
> products, today announced the availability of the carrier-class IEEE 802.11
> a/b/g wireless mini-PCI radio modules. These modules are the first ever
>  >1000mW radios that support extended frequency ranges of 4.8 – 6.0 GHz
> (DLM105) and 2.3 GHz to 2.7 GHz (DLM106), programmable 5/10/20/40 MHz
> channel width for the operation in the licensed/unlicensed bands (e.g.
> WiFi,
> WiMax, Home Land Security, ISM bands).
>
> In addition to the highest-power and extended frequency ranges, the radio
> modules also feature industry best receiver sensitivity, linear output
> power
> amplifiers in balanced mode to deliver high power at lowest EVM (Error
> Vector Magnitude), advanced filtering for improved noise immunity as part
> of
> their industry-leading performance offering. The mini-PCI modules are based
> on the Atheros 6th generation 802.11a/b/g AR5414A chipset and include
> advanced features such as Adaptive Noise Immunity, QoS, and latest IEEE
> 802.11i security standards.
>
> The design of the DLM105 and DLM106 mini-PCI radio modules feature dual
> MMCX
> antenna connectors for flexibility in system design with diversity or
> internal/external antenna selection options. The low loss, rugged MMCX
> connectors allow for improved mechanical stability and the use of higher
> quality, lower loss antenna cables. The radios have built-in RF surge
> protection circuit, which can significantly improve radio reliability in
> harsh ESD and EMP sensitive environments. The operating temperature range
> is
> from -40º C to +85º C.
>
> "The development of these radios was driven by our OEM customers who have
> been using our radio cards for almost 10 years in various applications
> deployed around the world," said Raghu PV, General Manager of Doodle Labs.
> "The feature set bundled in these radios is the result of an accumulation
> of
> suggestions and feedback we have obtained over the years from customer
> interactions and shared field performance experiences."
>
> The DLM105 and DLM106 modules are now sampling and volume shipments will
> begin on March 1, 2009. The modules will carry modular FCC, IC, and CE
> approvals (in progress). The radio modules are compatible with Atheros'
> Linux MADWIFI and Windows XP drivers as well as various Linux routing
> operating systems like Antcor Ikarus and Mikrotik.
>
>
>
> About Doodle Labs -
>
> Doodle Labs is a technology development company focusing on the design, and
> manufacturing of ruggedized, high Performance, high quality, Industrial
> wireless IP communication modules and systems. Doodle Labs products help
> OEMs to leverage the cost effective wireless IP technology to enable high
> value cutting edge applications. Doodle Labs is a privately held company
> with headquarters in Singapore. http://www.doodle-labs.com/
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: Doodle Labs introduces industry's highest performanceIEEE 802.11a/b/g radio modules

[Marlon K. Schafer]

I just got spammed by them too.

Do you think it's a real company with a real product?

I unsubed from their mailing lists.
marlon



- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:42 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Fw: Doodle Labs introduces industry's highest 
performanceIEEE 802.11a/b/g radio modules


Fyi
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Doodle Labs LLP 

Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:31:20
To: 
Subject: Doodle Labs introduces industry's highest performance IEEE 
802.11a/b/g radio modules


[http://www.doodle-labs.com/]

PRESS RELEASE

Doodle Labs, a leader in ruggedized, industrial wireless networking 
products, today announced the availability of the carrier-class IEEE 802.11 
a/b/g wireless mini-PCI radio modules. These modules are the first ever 
 >1000mW radios that support extended frequency ranges of 4.8 – 6.0 GHz 
(DLM105) and 2.3 GHz to 2.7 GHz (DLM106), programmable 5/10/20/40 MHz 
channel width for the operation in the licensed/unlicensed bands (e.g. WiFi, 
WiMax, Home Land Security, ISM bands).

In addition to the highest-power and extended frequency ranges, the radio 
modules also feature industry best receiver sensitivity, linear output power 
amplifiers in balanced mode to deliver high power at lowest EVM (Error 
Vector Magnitude), advanced filtering for improved noise immunity as part of 
their industry-leading performance offering. The mini-PCI modules are based 
on the Atheros 6th generation 802.11a/b/g AR5414A chipset and include 
advanced features such as Adaptive Noise Immunity, QoS, and latest IEEE 
802.11i security standards.

The design of the DLM105 and DLM106 mini-PCI radio modules feature dual MMCX 
antenna connectors for flexibility in system design with diversity or 
internal/external antenna selection options. The low loss, rugged MMCX 
connectors allow for improved mechanical stability and the use of higher 
quality, lower loss antenna cables. The radios have built-in RF surge 
protection circuit, which can significantly improve radio reliability in 
harsh ESD and EMP sensitive environments. The operating temperature range is 
from -40º C to +85º C.

"The development of these radios was driven by our OEM customers who have 
been using our radio cards for almost 10 years in various applications 
deployed around the world," said Raghu PV, General Manager of Doodle Labs. 
"The feature set bundled in these radios is the result of an accumulation of 
suggestions and feedback we have obtained over the years from customer 
interactions and shared field performance experiences."

The DLM105 and DLM106 modules are now sampling and volume shipments will 
begin on March 1, 2009. The modules will carry modular FCC, IC, and CE 
approvals (in progress). The radio modules are compatible with Atheros’ 
Linux MADWIFI and Windows XP drivers as well as various Linux routing 
operating systems like Antcor Ikarus and Mikrotik.



About Doodle Labs -

Doodle Labs is a technology development company focusing on the design, and 
manufacturing of ruggedized, high Performance, high quality, Industrial 
wireless IP communication modules and systems. Doodle Labs products help 
OEMs to leverage the cost effective wireless IP technology to enable high 
value cutting edge applications. Doodle Labs is a privately held company 
with headquarters in Singapore. http://www.doodle-labs.com/



Issued by Doodle Labs. For media enquiries, please contact:

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Re: [WISPA] Fw: Cat5 ferrite beads

[Larry A Weidig]

Thanks for the follow-up Marlon!  We have already ordered the
following:

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=74271733virtualkey5111
virtualkey710-74271733

This came as a suggestion from Eje - thanks!


Larry


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: towert...@contesting.com
Subject: [WISPA] Fw: Cat5 ferrite beads

Here's where we got our beads at.


> Dexter Magnetic Technologies   847-956-1140
>
> Apryl Kuch
> Office Manager
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> Box 489
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> www.accima.com
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" 
> To: "WISPA General List" ; 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 8:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads
>
>
>> Hi Apryl,
>>
>> Where did we get those Ferrite beads?
>>
>> thanks,
>> Marlon
>> (509) 982-2181
>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
>> 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since

>> 1999!
>> o...@odessaoffice.com
>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Larry A Weidig" 
>> To: ; "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 12:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads
>>
>>
>>> Thanks, but that only took me to a search page with 4,991
>>> Matches.  That does not help narrow it down much, just slightly
fewer
>>> than a Google search produced :)  We are looking for ones that can
snap
>>> onto existing runs/terminations.  Thanks!
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
>>> Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:44 PM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads
>>>
>>> http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?N=2105407
>>>
>>> / Eje
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
>>> Behalf Of Larry A Weidig
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:30 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads
>>>
>>> Can somebody supply me with a link to a source for these?
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net)
>>> * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/
>>> * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area
>>> * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] shark fin for 4.9 Ubiquiti SRC 4 card

[Rogelio]

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> OK, this may sound stupid, but how are the oil fields public safety?
> marlon

They've got some emergency preparedness meshes that they're building up 
there. I don't know all the details, just some of the action items that 
are on my to do list.

Ideally, I'd like to find a cool shark fin style antenna that fits this 
PCMCIA card

http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/sr4c_datasheet.pdf



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Re: [WISPA] [Sarcasm Alert] Yippee! Sprint "owns" the NTIA

[Marlon K. Schafer]

I think a better solution Forbes is to require that 75% of the funds be used 
only for companies that do less than $10m per year in revenue.  And those 
that have filed their form 477s at least once in the last 2 years.

That insures that the big, crooked companies don't get most of the money. 
It also insures that the companies that do get it are real companies serving 
real customer bases.

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Forbes Mercy" 
To: ; "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Sarcasm Alert] Yippee! Sprint "owns" the NTIA


> Here is the letter I am sending to my congressional delegation and the
> Commerce Department:
>
> 18 February 2009
>
> RE: Broadband Stimulus Package
>
> This stimulus package is becoming the proverbial 'pack of feeding
> wolves' led by huge corporate lobbyists.  The loudest of this 'hands
> out' group are the worst run companies.  I just read that President
> Obama is appointing Sprint-Nextel executive, Anna Gomez, to serve as
> deputy director of the National Telecommunications and Information
> Administration (NTIA), which will handle as much as $6.65 billion in new
> stimulus wireless and broadband grants that could potentially be given
> to Sprint among other large urban providers.
>
> If we weren't fearful of the actual providers of rural broadband getting
> any of the grants before we are now.  Sprint and Clearwire are two of
> the worst companies at deficit spending in our industry, with the worst
> results.  Why is the President putting people with vested interests and
> the worst spending resume in this influential position?  Didn't he
> campaign on not putting lobbyists and special interests in positions of
> power?  We don't need industry insiders; we need someone who has the
> ability to tell right from wrong without bias.
>
> So far the Broadband funds are slated mostly for AT&T who in 100 years
> hasn't expanded to rural areas while being heavily funded by the
> Universal Service Fund and many other forms of government assistance.
> On the other hand, with zero government aid, my company has covered many
> areas of our county with High Speed Internet using our own funds as a
> Wireless ISP.  The big Telco's will use this money only in high density
> areas, temporarily undercut pricing with more deficit spending to kill
> competition, and ultimately no rural expansion all with our tax money,
> same old tune.
>
> I had really hoped the stimulus package was a legitimate opportunity for
> rural Broadband expansion, and yes, I had hoped for some of those funds,
> as we are the only Internet Company interested in the low density areas
> of Yakima County.  Now it looks like just another pork repayment to
> donors. Will we ever be able to count on government to be trusted to
> deliver what they promise, certainly not from the actions we are
> witnessing with this overt appointment of a competitor?
>
> If you need a solution instead of a complaint here it is, the USDA Rural
> Grant program has been successful, well guarded against fraud, and
> distributed to true providers.  Take the funds from NTIA and give it to
> USDA, then we are all on a fair competitive basis for grants. NTIA is a
> consortium of urban providers; doesn't that conflict with the rural
> Broadband expansion goal of this legislation?
>
> Thank you,
> Forbes Mercy,
> 3201 W. Nob Hill Blvd.
> Yakima, WA  98902-4960
> President - Washington Broadband, Inc.
> forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
> www.wabroadband.com
> Ofc 509-853-0858 Cell 509-307-
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of chris cooper
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:21 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Sarcasm Alert] Yippee! Sprint "owns" the NTIA
>
> I think that everyone that has a rep on the telecom subcommittee of
> Commerce committee should contact them to voice concern.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of George Rogato
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:16 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Sarcasm Alert] Yippee! Sprint "owns" the NTIA
>
> I was going to suggest that clear wire would be the biggest winner in
> this stimulus package.
> But I didn't want to throw a wet towel at anyone.
>
> We still have to take a shot at it and get something.
>
>
>
> John Scrivner wrote:
>> Does anyone know the stock symbol for the company that makes KY Jelly?
>> I think that is where I will be moving my portfolio to. I'll just go
>> ahead now and predict that Sprint / Clearwire end up with a minimum of
>> $3B, likely more.
>>
>>
>> TODAY'S SPOTLIGHT... Former Sprint exec tapped as NTIA deputy director
>>
>> The Obama administration has named a former Sprint Nextel executive,
>> Anna Gomez, to serve as deputy director of the National
>> Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA), w

Re: [WISPA] Insurance

[Marlon K. Schafer]

We're with Basin Insurance out of Moses Lake.

I believe he was working on a program to allow him to sell into any state. 
Don't know if he got that done or not.

Seems to me that we're underwritten by Safeco.

Gary (my agent) has spent a lot of time learning my business to insure that 
we're properly covered.

laters,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Forbes Mercy" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance


>I was told by United that they were no longer taking new clients and
> considering dropping the ISP package side, that's it.  I'll hold out a
> little longer to see what Rick comes up with.
>
> Forbes
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Chadd Thompson
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:15 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance
>
> I have not heard anything from Chubb indicating this. Are they not
> taking
> new customers or getting rid of existing ones also?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
> Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:43 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance
>
>
> I was informed the Chubb is getting out of the ISP business so that
> pretty much leaves Hartford so I'm trying to get on with them.  I used
> Sue Larson at United but she must be busy because her responses are
> usually a week apart and only after I ask her if she has any more
> questions.
>
> Forbes
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] shark fin for 4.9 Ubiquiti SRC 4 card

[Marlon K. Schafer]

OK, this may sound stupid, but how are the oil fields public safety?
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Rogelio" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:51 AM
Subject: [WISPA] shark fin for 4.9 Ubiquiti SRC 4 card


> Anyone have a recommendation for a "shark fin" style 4.9 GHz PCMCIA
> Ubiquiti card?
>
> (I need some that will work on the north slope of Alaska in the oil 
> fields)
>
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Re: [WISPA] [Sarcasm Alert] Yippee! Sprint "owns" the NTIA

[John McDowell]

That's awesome Marlon. We too are seeing a spike this year. 36 last month,
Over 30 so far this month.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

> Most people around here understand this issue.  They are putting service
> ahead of that last couple of bucks.
>
> We added a net of almost 100 subs last year (much better than I thought it
> would be due to the installation pace mid year).  This year, in the midst
> of
> a ression I've put on 26 already!  We're ahead of last years numbers, by a
> high %.
>
> We can more easily cut costs than the big guys can.  We don't have unions
> to
> deal with, we usually don't have large houses, planes, vehicle fleets etc.
> etc. etc.
>
> This will be a good thing for us at the end of the day.
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "RickG" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Sarcasm Alert] Yippee! Sprint "owns" the NTIA
>
>
> > And THAT's what give capitalism a bad name. So, with the "C-word"
> becoming
> > a
> > bad thing, the socialist will get their way - for now at least. What can
> a
> > WISP do in such an environment?
> > -RickG
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Patrick Leary
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Groan. Sigh. The following comment reflects a personal view... Would
> >> have been nice if they could have tapped someone from a respected think
> >> tank like Pew or non-profit like the New America Foundation.
> >>
> >> You'd think by now people would getting tired of bringing in big company
> >> board room honchos to run these sorts of things. The temptation and
> >> limited "big company" experience of these people just continues the
> >> culture of influence peddling and mutual aggrandizing among their
> >> well-heeled and boot-licking peers. After so many repeated stories of
> >> abuse and fraud, all I can think of when I see this sort of appointment
> >> of a major corporate figure is the image of cigar chomping,
> >> back-slapping, bonus-happy banker-type culture.
> >>
> >>
> >> Patrick Leary
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >> Behalf Of John Scrivner
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:15 AM
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: [WISPA] [Sarcasm Alert] Yippee! Sprint "owns" the NTIA
> >>
> >> Does anyone know the stock symbol for the company that makes KY Jelly?
> >> I think that is where I will be moving my portfolio to. I'll just go
> >> ahead now and predict that Sprint / Clearwire end up with a minimum of
> >> $3B, likely more.
> >>
> >>
> >> TODAY'S SPOTLIGHT... Former Sprint exec tapped as NTIA deputy director
> >>
> >> The Obama administration has named a former Sprint Nextel executive,
> >> Anna Gomez, to serve as deputy director of the National
> >> Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA), which will
> >> handle as much as $6.65 billion in new stimulus wireless and broadband
> >> grants that will be available to Sprint and its competitors.
> >>
> >> Gomez, former vice president of government affairs with Sprint, is
> >> currently acting director of NTIA, which influences the president's
> >> telecom policy within the Commerce Department.
> >>
> >> NTIA spokesman Bart Forbes said in an interview with the Wall Street
> >> Journal that Gomez understands that the public has "every right to be
> >> concerned about her role in a potential broadband grant program,"
> >> because of her history with Sprint. "She is discussing this with the
> >> ethics office and will look to remove herself from the decision-making
> >> process" for grant applications where appropriate, he said.
> >>
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Re: [WISPA] [Sarcasm Alert] Yippee! Sprint "owns" the NTIA

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Most people around here understand this issue.  They are putting service 
ahead of that last couple of bucks.

We added a net of almost 100 subs last year (much better than I thought it 
would be due to the installation pace mid year).  This year, in the midst of 
a ression I've put on 26 already!  We're ahead of last years numbers, by a 
high %.

We can more easily cut costs than the big guys can.  We don't have unions to 
deal with, we usually don't have large houses, planes, vehicle fleets etc. 
etc. etc.

This will be a good thing for us at the end of the day.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "RickG" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Sarcasm Alert] Yippee! Sprint "owns" the NTIA


> And THAT's what give capitalism a bad name. So, with the "C-word" becoming 
> a
> bad thing, the socialist will get their way - for now at least. What can a
> WISP do in such an environment?
> -RickG
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Patrick Leary 
> wrote:
>
>> Groan. Sigh. The following comment reflects a personal view... Would
>> have been nice if they could have tapped someone from a respected think
>> tank like Pew or non-profit like the New America Foundation.
>>
>> You'd think by now people would getting tired of bringing in big company
>> board room honchos to run these sorts of things. The temptation and
>> limited "big company" experience of these people just continues the
>> culture of influence peddling and mutual aggrandizing among their
>> well-heeled and boot-licking peers. After so many repeated stories of
>> abuse and fraud, all I can think of when I see this sort of appointment
>> of a major corporate figure is the image of cigar chomping,
>> back-slapping, bonus-happy banker-type culture.
>>
>>
>> Patrick Leary
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of John Scrivner
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:15 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] [Sarcasm Alert] Yippee! Sprint "owns" the NTIA
>>
>> Does anyone know the stock symbol for the company that makes KY Jelly?
>> I think that is where I will be moving my portfolio to. I'll just go
>> ahead now and predict that Sprint / Clearwire end up with a minimum of
>> $3B, likely more.
>>
>>
>> TODAY'S SPOTLIGHT... Former Sprint exec tapped as NTIA deputy director
>>
>> The Obama administration has named a former Sprint Nextel executive,
>> Anna Gomez, to serve as deputy director of the National
>> Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA), which will
>> handle as much as $6.65 billion in new stimulus wireless and broadband
>> grants that will be available to Sprint and its competitors.
>>
>> Gomez, former vice president of government affairs with Sprint, is
>> currently acting director of NTIA, which influences the president's
>> telecom policy within the Commerce Department.
>>
>> NTIA spokesman Bart Forbes said in an interview with the Wall Street
>> Journal that Gomez understands that the public has "every right to be
>> concerned about her role in a potential broadband grant program,"
>> because of her history with Sprint. "She is discussing this with the
>> ethics office and will look to remove herself from the decision-making
>> process" for grant applications where appropriate, he said.
>>
>>
>> 
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[WISPA] Fw: Cat5 ferrite beads

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Here's where we got our beads at.


> Dexter Magnetic Technologies   847-956-1140
>
> Apryl Kuch
> Office Manager
> Odessa Office Equipment/Accima
> Box 489
> Odessa, Wa 99159
> 509 982-2181 M-F 9:00 - 3:00
> www.odessaoffice.com
> www.accima.com
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" 
> To: "WISPA General List" ; 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 8:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads
>
>
>> Hi Apryl,
>>
>> Where did we get those Ferrite beads?
>>
>> thanks,
>> Marlon
>> (509) 982-2181
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>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Larry A Weidig" 
>> To: ; "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 12:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads
>>
>>
>>> Thanks, but that only took me to a search page with 4,991
>>> Matches.  That does not help narrow it down much, just slightly fewer
>>> than a Google search produced :)  We are looking for ones that can snap
>>> onto existing runs/terminations.  Thanks!
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:44 PM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads
>>>
>>> http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?N=2105407
>>>
>>> / Eje
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> Behalf Of Larry A Weidig
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:30 PM
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>>> Subject: [WISPA] Cat5 ferrite beads
>>>
>>> Can somebody supply me with a link to a source for these?
>>> Thanks!
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[WISPA] Fw: Doodle Labs introduces industry's highest performance IEEE 802.11a/b/g radio modules

[lakeland]

Fyi
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-Original Message-
From: Doodle Labs LLP 

Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:31:20 
To: 
Subject: Doodle Labs introduces industry's highest performance IEEE 802.11a/b/g 
radio modules


[http://www.doodle-labs.com/]

PRESS RELEASE

Doodle Labs, a leader in ruggedized, industrial wireless networking products, 
today announced the availability of the carrier-class IEEE 802.11 a/b/g 
wireless mini-PCI radio modules. These modules are the first ever >1000mW 
radios that support extended frequency ranges of 4.8 – 6.0 GHz (DLM105) and 2.3 
GHz to 2.7 GHz (DLM106), programmable 5/10/20/40 MHz channel width for the 
operation in the licensed/unlicensed bands (e.g. WiFi, WiMax, Home Land 
Security, ISM bands).

In addition to the highest-power and extended frequency ranges, the radio 
modules also feature industry best receiver sensitivity, linear output power 
amplifiers in balanced mode to deliver high power at lowest EVM (Error Vector 
Magnitude), advanced filtering for improved noise immunity as part of their 
industry-leading performance offering. The mini-PCI modules are based on the 
Atheros 6th generation 802.11a/b/g AR5414A chipset and include advanced 
features such as Adaptive Noise Immunity, QoS, and latest IEEE 802.11i security 
standards.

The design of the DLM105 and DLM106 mini-PCI radio modules feature dual MMCX 
antenna connectors for flexibility in system design with diversity or 
internal/external antenna selection options. The low loss, rugged MMCX 
connectors allow for improved mechanical stability and the use of higher 
quality, lower loss antenna cables. The radios have built-in RF surge 
protection circuit, which can significantly improve radio reliability in harsh 
ESD and EMP sensitive environments. The operating temperature range is from 
-40º C to +85º C.

"The development of these radios was driven by our OEM customers who have been 
using our radio cards for almost 10 years in various applications deployed 
around the world," said Raghu PV, General Manager of Doodle Labs. "The feature 
set bundled in these radios is the result of an accumulation of suggestions and 
feedback we have obtained over the years from customer interactions and shared 
field performance experiences."

The DLM105 and DLM106 modules are now sampling and volume shipments will begin 
on March 1, 2009. The modules will carry modular FCC, IC, and CE approvals (in 
progress). The radio modules are compatible with Atheros’ Linux MADWIFI and 
Windows XP drivers as well as various Linux routing operating systems like 
Antcor Ikarus and Mikrotik.



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Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

[Drew Lentz]

Don't forget about Sascha's project @ CUWiN
http://cuwireless.net/

-d

On 2/19/09 5:13 AM, "Matt Hardy"  wrote:

> I think you're thinking of the MIT Roofnet project?
> http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/roofnet/doku.php
> 
> :)
> 
> Scottie Arnett wrote:
>> I was thinking of something else...can't remember what is was called. A
>> college was replacing the firmware in some Netgear WGR614L(best I recall)
>> routers and meshing the whole campus with it. Sorry for the confusion.
>> 
>> Scottie
>> 
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "John J. Thomas" 
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>> Date:  Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:49:14 +
>> 
>>   
>>> Some MME info
>>> 
>>> http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MME_wireless_routing_protocol
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
 -Original Message-
 From: Scottie Arnett [mailto:sarn...@info-ed.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 09:34 PM
 To: e...@wisp-router.com, 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks
 
 Too give credit where credit is due...did not a university do this to begin
 with that worked really well...and all other versions are built on it?
 
 Scottie
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: e...@wisp-router.com
 Reply-To: e...@wisp-router.com, WISPA General List 
 Date:  Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:36:32 +
 
   
> MikroTik has its MME implementation that is what should be used instead of
> using WDS for a mesh setup. MME is as true mesh as it gets.
> 
> /Eje
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Harold Bledsoe 
> 
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:52:39
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks
> 
> 
> Well there is also the mesh part too.  Is this what you guys are talking
> about when you say MT mesh:  http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Mesh_wds
> 
> If so, I would disagree that this is a "good" mesh implementation.
> There are many, many more factors to consider when building an
> infrastructure mesh.  The LigoMesh products take into account signal
> strength, hops from GW, node load, datarate, etc. to calculate the best
> path.  Also, there are dedicated radios for uplink/downlink/service set
> to give high performance.
> 
> On the other hand, if you don't need a carrier-grade infrastructure
> mesh, Wiligear products based on the WBD-500 do support Open-Mesh and
> should be available in the very near future on Streakwave's website with
> the option to have them preloaded with Open-mesh (board, indoor, and
> outdoor selections).
> 
> I guess what I'm saying is that not all products are created equal and
> there is certainly a place for each one.  Just be sure you know what you
> are getting!
> 
> -Hal
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: os10ru...@gmail.com
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:38:04 -0430
> 
> Mr. Burgess,
> 
> What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears
> the web interface is of no use in the advanced configuration and it
> sounds like one must get heavily into the CLI and scripting. I don't
> see an online repository of scripts for programming or even a highly
> detailed help/wiki online. I'm guessing too many people are making too
> much money doing their Mikrotik training to give it away for free. So
> because of the apparently steep learning curve I'm leery to make the
> leap. The more easily configurable (and less powerful) solutions such
> as Ubiquiti look more appealing to me at this point.
> 
> Would you disagree with my perspective? Is making the leap not that
> bad?
> 
> Greg
> On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:21 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
> 
> 
>> Ya, don't know why ya don't want a MT solution.  Been there done that
>> and it works :)
>> 
>> * ---
>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org 
>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>> WISPA Vendor Member*
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>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks

[Matt Hardy]

I think you're thinking of the MIT Roofnet project?
http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/roofnet/doku.php

:)

Scottie Arnett wrote:
> I was thinking of something else...can't remember what is was called. A 
> college was replacing the firmware in some Netgear WGR614L(best I recall) 
> routers and meshing the whole campus with it. Sorry for the confusion.
>
> Scottie
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "John J. Thomas" 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date:  Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:49:14 +
>
>   
>> Some MME info
>>
>> http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/MME_wireless_routing_protocol
>>
>> John
>>
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Scottie Arnett [mailto:sarn...@info-ed.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 09:34 PM
>>> To: e...@wisp-router.com, 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks
>>>
>>> Too give credit where credit is due...did not a university do this to begin 
>>> with that worked really well...and all other versions are built on it?
>>>
>>> Scottie
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: e...@wisp-router.com
>>> Reply-To: e...@wisp-router.com, WISPA General List 
>>> Date:  Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:36:32 +
>>>
>>>   
 MikroTik has its MME implementation that is what should be used instead of 
 using WDS for a mesh setup. MME is as true mesh as it gets. 

 /Eje
 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

 -Original Message-
 From: Harold Bledsoe 

 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:52:39 
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks


 Well there is also the mesh part too.  Is this what you guys are talking
 about when you say MT mesh:  http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Mesh_wds

 If so, I would disagree that this is a "good" mesh implementation.
 There are many, many more factors to consider when building an
 infrastructure mesh.  The LigoMesh products take into account signal
 strength, hops from GW, node load, datarate, etc. to calculate the best
 path.  Also, there are dedicated radios for uplink/downlink/service set
 to give high performance.

 On the other hand, if you don't need a carrier-grade infrastructure
 mesh, Wiligear products based on the WBD-500 do support Open-Mesh and
 should be available in the very near future on Streakwave's website with
 the option to have them preloaded with Open-mesh (board, indoor, and
 outdoor selections).

 I guess what I'm saying is that not all products are created equal and
 there is certainly a place for each one.  Just be sure you know what you
 are getting!

 -Hal


 -Original Message-
 From: os10ru...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List 
 To: WISPA General List 
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks
 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:38:04 -0430

 Mr. Burgess,

What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears  
 the web interface is of no use in the advanced configuration and it  
 sounds like one must get heavily into the CLI and scripting. I don't  
 see an online repository of scripts for programming or even a highly  
 detailed help/wiki online. I'm guessing too many people are making too  
 much money doing their Mikrotik training to give it away for free. So  
 because of the apparently steep learning curve I'm leery to make the  
 leap. The more easily configurable (and less powerful) solutions such  
 as Ubiquiti look more appealing to me at this point.

Would you disagree with my perspective? Is making the leap not that  
 bad?

 Greg
 On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:21 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:

 
> Ya, don't know why ya don't want a MT solution.  Been there done that
> and it works :)
>
> * ---
> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org 
> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
> WISPA Vendor Member*
> *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net
> 
> */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/*
> 
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