Re: [WISPA] Noise by me on a tower
Shielded Cat 5 and Ferrite Beads are your friend. I have been where you are and this fixed it all for me. Scriv On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: I have an odd situation, I have 2-2.4 180* sectors MT RB411 and 5-5.8 StarOS War1 backhaul radios and a RB600 router at the top of a 265ft old ATT microwave tower. The top has a grounded NEMA metal box and POE powered by an Allen Bradley converter. I have an AC and an Ethernet run to the base where I have a APC UPS. The owner just leased space to another client 20 Feet away on same level from me. It is a local REMC doing meter reading on 221Mhz. They were having problems with receiving they brought in a spectrum analyzer and there was a noise floor of -71 at 220Mhz. The tower owner being an radio guy not a wireless guy just killed power on the ups. (taking down all my stuff and locking up 1 one of the radios for an hour GRRR) When our equipment was off the noise floor went to -108. As soon as he powered me back up the noise returned. They actually said that there was noise from around 150Mhz to 240Mhz. Everything is grounded and cased in metal except the LMR that goes to the Antennas, the AC wire is in flex and the shielded Ethernet down the tower. Ideas? there might be a little noise off the oscillators of the War-1 boards but that's 175Mhz. The Ethernet is 100Mhz, RB411 300Mhz and RB600 266 MHz Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Noise by me on a tower
To me, two things appear possible. 1) That you are likely running a non-FCC certified system :-( 2) Noisy DC power circuitry on SBC, remember the MT 532 (DC power) problem 2 years back? I'd suggest that you hire the guy that found the noise in the first place, and take the analyzer to each SBC, and find out which SBC is causing it. Of course its not guaranteed to be the SBC, but I'd think that first. Note putting it in a metal case does not always fix the problem, and sometimes can make it worse. For example withthe 532 problem, two years ago, put in a PacWireless case, there was half the noise if I took the cover off. (Which is why SBC need to be certified with the case they are installed in.) If the RB600 or 411 is generating nise like that, I'm sure we'll all want to know about it. Let us know what you find. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Noise by me on a tower Shielded Cat 5 and Ferrite Beads are your friend. I have been where you are and this fixed it all for me. Scriv On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: I have an odd situation, I have 2-2.4 180* sectors MT RB411 and 5-5.8 StarOS War1 backhaul radios and a RB600 router at the top of a 265ft old ATT microwave tower. The top has a grounded NEMA metal box and POE powered by an Allen Bradley converter. I have an AC and an Ethernet run to the base where I have a APC UPS. The owner just leased space to another client 20 Feet away on same level from me. It is a local REMC doing meter reading on 221Mhz. They were having problems with receiving they brought in a spectrum analyzer and there was a noise floor of -71 at 220Mhz. The tower owner being an radio guy not a wireless guy just killed power on the ups. (taking down all my stuff and locking up 1 one of the radios for an hour GRRR) When our equipment was off the noise floor went to -108. As soon as he powered me back up the noise returned. They actually said that there was noise from around 150Mhz to 240Mhz. Everything is grounded and cased in metal except the LMR that goes to the Antennas, the AC wire is in flex and the shielded Ethernet down the tower. Ideas? there might be a little noise off the oscillators of the War-1 boards but that's 175Mhz. The Ethernet is 100Mhz, RB411 300Mhz and RB600 266 MHz Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] wireshark for finding unknown IPs
For what it's worth, Wireshark has been a lifesaver for me when I have to go out in the field and get an unknown IP address of certain types of units, particularly ones without easy-to-access console ports. (Sometimes this is my only option, as the unit is in production, ARP broadcasts are on a different subnet and thus not viewable on tcpdump, and I know the password.) HTH WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wireshark for finding unknown IPs
Is there a way to hear ALL the traffic, including those brocasts on a different subnet? What if your laptop IP is on a different scheme or none at all? On 5/10/09, Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com wrote: For what it's worth, Wireshark has been a lifesaver for me when I have to go out in the field and get an unknown IP address of certain types of units, particularly ones without easy-to-access console ports. (Sometimes this is my only option, as the unit is in production, ARP broadcasts are on a different subnet and thus not viewable on tcpdump, and I know the password.) HTH WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wireshark for finding unknown IPs
With Wireshark, yes With tcpdump, not from what I can tell On May 10, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Is there a way to hear ALL the traffic, including those brocasts on a different subnet? What if your laptop IP is on a different scheme or none at all? On 5/10/09, Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com wrote: For what it's worth, Wireshark has been a lifesaver for me when I have to go out in the field and get an unknown IP address of certain types of units, particularly ones without easy-to-access console ports. (Sometimes this is my only option, as the unit is in production, ARP broadcasts are on a different subnet and thus not viewable on tcpdump, and I know the password.) HTH --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wireshark for finding unknown IPs
tcpdump -e will give you layer 2 info, regardless of subnet. Tom S. - Original Message - From: Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com To: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] wireshark for finding unknown IPs With Wireshark, yes With tcpdump, not from what I can tell On May 10, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Is there a way to hear ALL the traffic, including those brocasts on a different subnet? What if your laptop IP is on a different scheme or none at all? On 5/10/09, Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com wrote: For what it's worth, Wireshark has been a lifesaver for me when I have to go out in the field and get an unknown IP address of certain types of units, particularly ones without easy-to-access console ports. (Sometimes this is my only option, as the unit is in production, ARP broadcasts are on a different subnet and thus not viewable on tcpdump, and I know the password.) HTH --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Wireless Service in 95476
Anyone have service in area code 95476. I have a customer lead for you. Thanx NGL n...@ngl.net If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Service in 95476
Should read zip code :) Brain dead NGL -- From: NGL n...@ngl.net Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:49 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Service in 95476 Anyone have service in area code 95476. I have a customer lead for you. Thanx NGL n...@ngl.net If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Service in 95476
That's a zip code I think. On 5/10/09, NGL n...@ngl.net wrote: Anyone have service in area code 95476. I have a customer lead for you. Thanx NGL n...@ngl.net If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] One connection bandwidth=x / 2 commections bandwidth=2x why?
On our main upstream connection 100mb fiber a speedtest to BHN yeilds about 7MB max when 15 is there... Open two connections tcp and now the transfer rate doubles (from same server to same client). What would cause this? Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT, IE is allowing strange things
That's just NOT helpful if I'm either NOT home (this is the aaa site after all! doh) or if I want to look up something else. These companies are taking the automated call attendant to a whole new stupid unhelpful level! marlon - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, IE is allowing strange things It is doing it from your IP address. The server does a lookup on your IP address to see where you are located and forwards you to the website for your area. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 21:09:07 -0700 OK, this seems simple enough. Type in www.aaa.com and go to the triple A site right? Nope, it somehow knows that I'm in zip code 99159 and sends me, automatically to www.aaawa.com! How in the world is a web site finding this info in my machine? Where the heck is it stored? How do I make it stop? If I do a google search and click on aaa I can get there, put it into the ADDRESS (NOT search) bar I get redirected to a site other than the one I wanted. I am SOO tired of being controlled! I don't even have the freedom to select the web site that I choose to go to. I mean really? Anyone have any idea how this is possible and how to make the bastards stop snooping? I've deleted all of the search engines that were stuck in the browser, I've tightened up as much of the security that I can find without breaking everything else. Thoughts? Ideas? Please do NOT tell me to use firefox or some other browser. Most of my customers use IE and I have to know how to help protect them. thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT, IE is allowing strange things
Oh boy Can we get this thread moderated please? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:52:15 To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, IE is allowing strange things That's just NOT helpful if I'm either NOT home (this is the aaa site after all! doh) or if I want to look up something else. These companies are taking the automated call attendant to a whole new stupid unhelpful level! marlon - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, IE is allowing strange things It is doing it from your IP address. The server does a lookup on your IP address to see where you are located and forwards you to the website for your area. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 21:09:07 -0700 OK, this seems simple enough. Type in www.aaa.com and go to the triple A site right? Nope, it somehow knows that I'm in zip code 99159 and sends me, automatically to www.aaawa.com! How in the world is a web site finding this info in my machine? Where the heck is it stored? How do I make it stop? If I do a google search and click on aaa I can get there, put it into the ADDRESS (NOT search) bar I get redirected to a site other than the one I wanted. I am SOO tired of being controlled! I don't even have the freedom to select the web site that I choose to go to. I mean really? Anyone have any idea how this is possible and how to make the bastards stop snooping? I've deleted all of the search engines that were stuck in the browser, I've tightened up as much of the security that I can find without breaking everything else. Thoughts? Ideas? Please do NOT tell me to use firefox or some other browser. Most of my customers use IE and I have to know how to help protect them. thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT, IE is allowing strange things
Just ignore it, it will pass. On 5/11/09, char...@thewybles.com char...@thewybles.com wrote: Oh boy Can we get this thread moderated please? Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:52:15 To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, IE is allowing strange things That's just NOT helpful if I'm either NOT home (this is the aaa site after all! doh) or if I want to look up something else. These companies are taking the automated call attendant to a whole new stupid unhelpful level! marlon - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, IE is allowing strange things It is doing it from your IP address. The server does a lookup on your IP address to see where you are located and forwards you to the website for your area. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 21:09:07 -0700 OK, this seems simple enough. Type in www.aaa.com and go to the triple A site right? Nope, it somehow knows that I'm in zip code 99159 and sends me, automatically to www.aaawa.com! How in the world is a web site finding this info in my machine? Where the heck is it stored? How do I make it stop? If I do a google search and click on aaa I can get there, put it into the ADDRESS (NOT search) bar I get redirected to a site other than the one I wanted. I am SOO tired of being controlled! I don't even have the freedom to select the web site that I choose to go to. I mean really? Anyone have any idea how this is possible and how to make the bastards stop snooping? I've deleted all of the search engines that were stuck in the browser, I've tightened up as much of the security that I can find without breaking everything else. Thoughts? Ideas? Please do NOT tell me to use firefox or some other browser. Most of my customers use IE and I have to know how to help protect them. thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
