[WISPA] TR-24H-120-14 in stock?
Anyone have this antenna in stock? TR-24H-120-13. It's a Tranzeo 2.4ghz 13db HPOL. I'm looking for 3 or 6 of them. My current supplier is out of stock. Please email me offlist. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines
Since I'm not a computer guy, how does one disable the IPv6 stack on the Vista machine? - Original Message From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net To: Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:44:13 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines We disable the IPv6 stack on the Vista Box. (the IPv6 stack causes other problems, including connecting with Dialup). Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: Joe Miller [mailto:joe.mil...@dslbyair.com] Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:17 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines I do not have problems with wired connections, it actually works for the most part. Are you disabling the IPv6 stack in the Vista machine, or in Monowall? - Original Message From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net To: Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 10:34:33 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines Curious. Have u tried to disable the IPv6 stack in Vista ? We are using monowall on wired networks with Vista, once the IPv6 stack is disabled, have not seen any issues with DHCP. Regards Faisal Imtiaz -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Miller Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 11:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines Yes I do, they are RV Parks. They are great money makers, but this Vista issue is getting out of hand. - Original Message From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 9:27:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines Joe, I've seen Vista have issues connecting with all kinds of access points. I usually have the customer get a different router and it works. Which takes me to a question: Why do you have customers connecting laptops directly to you? Do you run a hotspot? -RickG On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com wrote: I'm having a hell of a time with Vista machines connecting to my Monowall router. I found this regarding Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain routers or from certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers, and gives the fix for the computer.. HOW MANY PEOPLE are knowledgable enough with Vista to fix there own machine? support.microsoft.com/default.as...33/en-us and Monowall's latest version: m0n0.ch/wall/ 04/11/2009 - m0n0wall 1.3b16 released This beta release improves IPv6 support (by providing more control over RAs, adding DHCPv6, allowing IPv6 DNS servers, enabling IPv6 webGUI access, etc.), adds initial basic support for secondary IP addresses, patches a kernel security issue and adds support for Broadcom BCM5722 NICs. Has anyone dealt with this before? Does anyone know how to make Vista work on their Monowall routers without having to assign a static address on the Vista machine? This is starting to become a pain in the a$$. The customer will complain that they cannot connect to the captive portal and will say it worked in the last place they were at. It kind of makes me wonder why Microsoft pulled such a rotten joke on end-users. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DMA Labs
Does this work with Authorize.net? - Original Message From: Jaron Parsons jpars...@sumnercomm.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:39:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMA Labs We use it for a hotspot authorization and payment gateway. It works very well once setup, the packaging system is a little confusing, but the support is great. The guy that maintains it will pretty much setup it up for you. Only drawback to me is ... We tried to run in on FreeBSD which most of our other servers run and is more stable imo , but it was unable to run one of his binaries properly. he said it will run on FreeBSD but is better supported on LINUX. The manual has detailed instructions for fedora and gentoo i believe. So it wasn't too hard. Just make sure you have a stable LINUX server running first, and let him do the rest remotely and you shouldn't have too much to worry about. Other drawback is that the support guy must be out of the states, cause it sometimes takes 12 hours for a response. but i do not think i have ever NOT received a response in more than 24 hours. Also his english is not 100% but I had no problems understanding him. Otherwise, it is very flexible, and reliable once running. It took about a days worth of fiddling with it to understand the packages and get them running the way i wanted. I have run ours for about a year without a reboot. It integrates with paypal or netcash good too. If you have any other questions feel free to give me a shout or shoot me an e-mail! Jaron Parsons Networking Div Manager Sumner Communications 117 W Harvey Wellington, KS 67152 620-326-8989 Jerry Richardson wrote: Anyone using these Radius based billing software solutions? http://www.dmasoftlab.com/cont/home http://www.radius-manager.com/ Comments? Broadband for Business Public and Private WiFi Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 _ ConsuWISP RF Topographical Coverage Maps Network Optimization and Planning Network Design and Troubleshooting Installer and Technician Training P Please consider the environment before printing this email WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines
That answer is not an option. You cannot support 100 clients this summer bringing their laptops into the RV park and asking them all to disable the IPv6. It takes 10 exact clicks to get to the location to disable those settings. And that may vary depending on the configuration and UAC level. I am not familiar with Monowall. But they have to be coming up with an answer to this or they will have lots of other issues with IPv6. Yes Microsoft has screwed up but we as providers have to find solutions that does not affect the clients equipment and requires as little changes on their part as possible. Sounds like to me that you need to find a cheap vista laptop with vista and do testing when you have access to Monowall support. I just found that MoNowall is a FreeBSD Firewall. Good luck with that. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Miller Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 9:56 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines Since I'm not a computer guy, how does one disable the IPv6 stack on the Vista machine? - Original Message From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net To: Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:44:13 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines We disable the IPv6 stack on the Vista Box. (the IPv6 stack causes other problems, including connecting with Dialup). Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: Joe Miller [mailto:joe.mil...@dslbyair.com] Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:17 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines I do not have problems with wired connections, it actually works for the most part. Are you disabling the IPv6 stack in the Vista machine, or in Monowall? - Original Message From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net To: Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 10:34:33 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines Curious. Have u tried to disable the IPv6 stack in Vista ? We are using monowall on wired networks with Vista, once the IPv6 stack is disabled, have not seen any issues with DHCP. Regards Faisal Imtiaz -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Miller Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 11:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines Yes I do, they are RV Parks. They are great money makers, but this Vista issue is getting out of hand. - Original Message From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 9:27:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines Joe, I've seen Vista have issues connecting with all kinds of access points. I usually have the customer get a different router and it works. Which takes me to a question: Why do you have customers connecting laptops directly to you? Do you run a hotspot? -RickG On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com wrote: I'm having a hell of a time with Vista machines connecting to my Monowall router. I found this regarding Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain routers or from certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers, and gives the fix for the computer.. HOW MANY PEOPLE are knowledgable enough with Vista to fix there own machine? support.microsoft.com/default.as...33/en-us and Monowall's latest version: m0n0.ch/wall/ 04/11/2009 - m0n0wall 1.3b16 released This beta release improves IPv6 support (by providing more control over RAs, adding DHCPv6, allowing IPv6 DNS servers, enabling IPv6 webGUI access, etc.), adds initial basic support for secondary IP addresses, patches a kernel security issue and adds support for Broadcom BCM5722 NICs. Has anyone dealt with this before? Does anyone know how to make Vista work on their Monowall routers without having to assign a static address on the Vista machine? This is starting to become a pain in the a$$. The customer will complain that they cannot connect to the captive portal and will say it worked in the last place they were at. It kind of makes me wonder why Microsoft pulled such a rotten joke on end-users. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DMA Labs
Not currently, but if you asked the developer I am sure he might entertain the idea of integrating it. Btw, the paypal has two methods of integration... 1) a customer can use their paypal account like normal 2) you can setup a paypal merchant account and authorize credit card transactions, without requiring the customer to have or create a paypal account. Jaron Parsons Sumner Communications Joe Miller wrote: Does this work with Authorize.net? - Original Message From: Jaron Parsons jpars...@sumnercomm.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:39:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMA Labs We use it for a hotspot authorization and payment gateway. It works very well once setup, the packaging system is a little confusing, but the support is great. The guy that maintains it will pretty much setup it up for you. Only drawback to me is ... We tried to run in on FreeBSD which most of our other servers run and is more stable imo , but it was unable to run one of his binaries properly. he said it will run on FreeBSD but is better supported on LINUX. The manual has detailed instructions for fedora and gentoo i believe. So it wasn't too hard. Just make sure you have a stable LINUX server running first, and let him do the rest remotely and you shouldn't have too much to worry about. Other drawback is that the support guy must be out of the states, cause it sometimes takes 12 hours for a response. but i do not think i have ever NOT received a response in more than 24 hours. Also his english is not 100% but I had no problems understanding him. Otherwise, it is very flexible, and reliable once running. It took about a days worth of fiddling with it to understand the packages and get them running the way i wanted. I have run ours for about a year without a reboot. It integrates with paypal or netcash good too. If you have any other questions feel free to give me a shout or shoot me an e-mail! Jaron Parsons Networking Div Manager Sumner Communications 117 W Harvey Wellington, KS 67152 620-326-8989 Jerry Richardson wrote: Anyone using these Radius based billing software solutions? http://www.dmasoftlab.com/cont/home http://www.radius-manager.com/ Comments? Broadband for Business Public and Private WiFi Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 _ ConsuWISP RF Topographical Coverage Maps Network Optimization and Planning Network Design and Troubleshooting Installer and Technician Training P Please consider the environment before printing this email WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jaron Parsons Network Division Mgr Sumner Communications 117 W Harvey Wellington, KS 67152 jpars...@sumnercomm.net mailto:jpars...@sumnercomm.net http://www.sumnercomm.net 620-326-8989 x101 Office 620-326-5332 Fax WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Happy Birthday Stuart Pierce!
Sorry Stuart... I could not resist telling the WISP world it is your birthday today. I wish we could all get together and make beer floats with your ice cream. Hahaha!Have you ever done that? I might actually do that with a Guiness I think. I am a little bit twisted though! :-) Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] connectorizing a canopy radio
Looking for information on how to connectorize a 5.7 backhull canopy radio. Is there a howto online somewhere? and how about testing? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines
Steve Barnes wrote: I just found that MoNowall is a FreeBSD Firewall. Good luck with that. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service FreeBSD is well supported and quite popular. We use BSD for quite a bit of stuff. Mainly servers, but also routers. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines
Did not mean there was an issues with FreeBSD. Just meant that not being a vendor supported solution like Motorola, Tranzeo, Cisco, etc. that a solution to this issue may be harder to readily access. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines Steve Barnes wrote: I just found that MoNowall is a FreeBSD Firewall. Good luck with that. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service FreeBSD is well supported and quite popular. We use BSD for quite a bit of stuff. Mainly servers, but also routers. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22403089-Monowall-and-Mirosoft-Vista-machines the iptables -t filter -I INPUT --source 169.254.0.0/16 -j ACCEPT makes good sense. ryan Steve Barnes wrote: Did not mean there was an issues with FreeBSD. Just meant that not being a vendor supported solution like Motorola, Tranzeo, Cisco, etc. that a solution to this issue may be harder to readily access. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines Steve Barnes wrote: I just found that MoNowall is a FreeBSD Firewall. Good luck with that. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service FreeBSD is well supported and quite popular. We use BSD for quite a bit of stuff. Mainly servers, but also routers. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Happy Birthday Stuart Pierce!
Happy birthday. Grandpa. hehehehe How the heck are you these days? marlon - Original Message - From: John Scrivner j...@mvn.net To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:22 AM Subject: [WISPA] Happy Birthday Stuart Pierce! Sorry Stuart... I could not resist telling the WISP world it is your birthday today. I wish we could all get together and make beer floats with your ice cream. Hahaha!Have you ever done that? I might actually do that with a Guiness I think. I am a little bit twisted though! :-) Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines
Google for the win once again. :) Blasted zeroconf. D. Ryan Spott wrote: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22403089-Monowall-and-Mirosoft-Vista-machines the iptables -t filter -I INPUT --source 169.254.0.0/16 -j ACCEPT makes good sense. ryan Steve Barnes wrote: Did not mean there was an issues with FreeBSD. Just meant that not being a vendor supported solution like Motorola, Tranzeo, Cisco, etc. that a solution to this issue may be harder to readily access. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines Steve Barnes wrote: I just found that MoNowall is a FreeBSD Firewall. Good luck with that. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service FreeBSD is well supported and quite popular. We use BSD for quite a bit of stuff. Mainly servers, but also routers. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Marlon, happy shakey mouse day
Send all of us some ear photo's AND, did you feel that lil one? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How to stabilize Pole for 30 Drum Antenna?
Also... Dont under estimate how heavy 4 pipe is. Escpecially a 10 ft peice. Definately takes two people to lift. And not eay to lift hanging over a ledge. Personally, I would consider it an unnecssary safety risk, to mount a 4 pipe over edge without ground directly underneith, just for a 30in dish. If you are having to brace your poles anyway, I'd argue that a 3 pole would be plenty sufficient for 30 dish. I'd be lobbying for a non-penetrating roof mount for on the other side of the railing, even though it is technically offlimits. We generally don't allow building management to call the shots on engineering. Instead, we do our best to accommodate their wishes, but if some restriction they ask is causing a safety hassard, we instead attempt to convince them why we need an acception, and why it is to their advantage to accept our suggestion. Everyone wins in the long run, and they'll likely respect you more for bringing the situation to their attention. If you MUST mount at that position, I can make the following suggestion. A cantelever mount creates strength by increasing the disatance between two mount points. There is no reason the two mount points must be to the same wall surface depth. My suggestion is to use the lower wall, even though it is recessed 1 ft back further. Use the wall section between the louvered windows, and put the bottom mount there, about 3 feet below the top mount. The bottom mount of course will have to have a strut that extends out to the distance parallel to the top cement mount point, so it can clamp to the pole and keep it verticly true. The top mount point must of course be aligned with the bottom wall mount point, between windows. With Cantelever mounts, and tall masts, what you worry about is the screws getting pulled out of the concrete, because of the leverage of the top arm where the dish is. There is also risk of concrete cracking, when using thick anchor holes, so close to where the railing post is getting secured. So your top mount would be stronger by keeping it centered in the middle of the thicker concrete wall. There are other technicques, such as mounting to the bottom of the overhang. For example, if you let the pole drop 2 feet below the concrete overhang, you could then angle a strut back to the underside of the over hang. Again, the secret to a strong cantelever is the distance between the two mount points. Because the mast is going 10ft up, it make sense for you to drop as low as possible also to create stronger cantelever. alternatively, There are some very heavy duty tower mounts ment to offset masts 2-3 feet away from the tower. One of those could be used for lower mount, or two of them, if needed. They offset mounts are shaped like...II II I I In the above there are two hotrizonal and two verticle masts welded, to make the mount. If you only want to use the main songle concrete overhand, you can do it by making a triangle prism. Basically you use two of the above mounts. They each mount to the concrete at 2-3 ft apart. Then rotate the outside pole of both mounts towards each other until they connect and touch. Then mount the 4 mast at that point, to the combined mount masts. What that would do is it would allow you to spread the windload across 4 mount points, and two seperate stress points on the concrete. You could then use 3 ubolts to clamp the mast to the mount extentions. Anyway, they probably already make a mount to do exactly that. Windstar did something a bit different. Sometimes I;d see... They'd have a triangle shaped platform mount, where the 4 pole's base screwed down into the platform, then the platform mounted to the wall. It would usually have two heavy duty mount points horitontally seperated, then one verticle angled strut down to the wall. . Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] How to stabilize Pole for 30 Drum Antenna? Buy two mounts similar to the unused mount in the RED circle and mount them as far apart as possible in an available clear spot on the building like the BLUE circle. We mount 3.5 - 4 pipes with mounts like that all the time. A 30 antenna on a 4 pipe with two mounts anchored properly into concrete isn't going to move. 11GHz is pretty forgiving (relatively speaking vs. 38GHz - 80GHz) of wind vibration etc. Hutton has the mounts in a couple different sizes and they come with the stud/bolts for concrete. Simply hammer drill the anchor holes to a proper depth, fill with a loc-tight concrete adhesive and tap in the studs. The studs should be fairly snug/tight when tapped into place. Tighten the nut with
